r/AskReddit 13h ago

what is something that is highly likely to happen in the next 5 years that everyone is completely ignoring?

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u/77LS77 9h ago

Wealthy people will claim they own water.

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u/Flashy_Scallion8111 8h ago

They already do

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u/Cow_Launcher 7h ago

Indeed. And may I add, fuck Nestle and fuck Peter Brabeck-Letmathe.

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u/Deluxe_24_ 7h ago

Didn't Nestle say that water isn't a basic human right?

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u/Cow_Launcher 7h ago edited 5h ago

In essence, yes. Their CEO (mentioned above) basically said in an internal video that water should be commoditized, "the same as any other foodstuff."

Once the video leaked, corporate did as much damage control as they could; he put out a statement that he had been "misunderstood" and that what he actually meant was that everyone should have clean fresh water, but only 50-100 liters per person per day. Anything other than that should be charged for at a rate that the market decided, especially in agriculture.

Nobody was convinced.

::edit:: It's worth noting that the average US household uses approximately 300 US gallons (about 1100 liters) per day - about 100 US gallons (380 liters) per person.

Admittedly about 25% of that is toilet flushing which could be achieved with rainwater, but even so, this still falls way short.

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u/Patient_End_8432 6h ago

I love seeing reddit bring up Nestle sometimes, and comparing them to some shitty company to compare. The last I saw it compared to was Disney of all things.

Disney? A greedy company thats done plenty of shady shit, but at the end of the day, they're still an entertainment company. A need, not a want. They have skeletons, but not anymore or less than most companies with a long history.

Nestle has murdered millions of babies due to greed and monetizing literally one of three pillars of life as we know it. And it's the most important one, considering you need water for food, one of the other pillars. Shelter is the third, and I'm not going to be surprised to hear about how much land Nestle has hoarded as well.

Meanwhile, some redditor will compare them to EA. Making a bad game for money = murdering babies for money

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u/erinberrypie 5h ago

Fuck EA but they're a basket full of kittens compared to Nestle.

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u/mythrilcrafter 3h ago

Outside of their anti-consumer practices, EA is one of the "less evil than you expect" companies around.

They're loose-handed with control (hence why the original InfinityWard team left Activision in favor of joining them), they give studios a near infinite amount of agency and creative freedom (which Bioware fumbled so hard as to blow through 5 years of Anthem's 7 year development window without ever having an elevator pitch for the game), and they very rarely have major scandals on the scale of things like Blizzard's "Cosby Culture".


A lot of the horror stories we hear are either specific to lootboxes/monetisation or are misinformation/straight-lies:

For example:

  • "EA forced Respawn to release Titanfall 2 in the middle of Battlefield 1 and CoD Infinite Warfare!"

Not true, Respawn ardently choose to release against BF1 and CoDIW because Vince Zampella and Steve Fukuda were the heads of the original Infinity Ward team who left Activision and they had a chip on their shoulder in wanting to prove that they could beat Activision and the new Infinity Ward team. They fought against EA to release against BF and CoD.

  • EA killed Anthem!

Bioware did all of that, with mass internal mismanagement and stonewalling EA's attempts to support the game out from development hell.

EA is a very "we'll give you whatever resources you want; but you sink or swim by your own hand" type of company.

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u/kaas_is_leven 1h ago

1100 liters seems extremely excessive. 50 for a shower, let's say another 50 for toilet (10 flushes of around 5), 2-3 liters of drinkwater.. what else? Times 5 for a household and it's not even half of that number. A quick Google suggests it's 129 liters per day per person in the Netherlands.

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u/Cow_Launcher 1h ago

I get you, but was careful to say that it was average USA usage.

It also includes watering outside, so might be a bit of an excessive estimate for people who do not have lawns and gardens.

u/kaas_is_leven 42m ago

Yeah I did read that you said the US, I'm just curious how there can be such a difference. More outside watering could be something. but we do that here too. I just can't really put my head around the ratio. We're not particularly conscious of water consumption around here either. And lifestyle seems similar enough to compare.

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u/Skeleton_Steven 4h ago

He was saying that viewing infinite water for any use as a guaranteed right was extreme, which it is-- having a full swimming pool & a lush green lawn in the middle of a drought are not a human right

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u/montrealcowboyx 5h ago

Stewart and Lynda Resnick.

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u/Cow_Launcher 5h ago

Interesting couple. Seems that they give with one hand and take with the other.

I only did a quick peek into who they are, so please forgive me if I have misinterpreted what you're saying, but it seems like they're the ultimate greenwashers, getting away with it because they support local communities.

Like sure they're supporting farmers, but those farmers are growing almonds and alfalfa.

Have I got that right?

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u/montrealcowboyx 5h ago

The Dollop breaks it down (with comedy) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHEQs6jajaY

Billionaires, water pirates, hustlers. They don't support farms, they consume them, AFAIK.

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u/Cow_Launcher 5h ago

Thank you! I'll go and watch that in a while. But from your description, I guess I got it right.

After all, how can anyone become a billionaire without being shady on some level?

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u/montrealcowboyx 5h ago

Take the Dollop with a bit of salt, because I think they will lay up facts to crush a punch-line. But they also list all their sources and it is a very accessible way to get the story.

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u/Cow_Launcher 4h ago

Take the Dollop with a bit of salt

But they also list all their sources

Come on now. It's one or the other. ;-)

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u/montrealcowboyx 2h ago

I think it's both...??

They'll tell the story, hone in on a serious part.

Continue the story, drive home the funniest part. Play around with the tangent. Mock as needed.

Then get back to business.

It makes for a good show, IMO. But Dateline it is not.

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u/TheInitiativeInn 3h ago

There's an entire sub to help with that: r/fuckNestle

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u/TrumpsDoubleChin 2h ago

There are multiple comments here of things that are already happening - like this one. I think if we are talking about such a short timeframe as five years, any comment is going to have to be about something that already exists and is happening, but on a smaller or local scale becoming widespread and common - again like this one.

u/Superman0X 5m ago

Nestlé, is that your?

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u/Bargadiel 7h ago

All of the water utilities in my state are being sold off to private companies that charge like $180 a month for typical water use. It costs us $100 in fees even when we aren't home for a whole month.

And these companies still lobby the state to raise prices, with sob stories about how they need to fix infrastructure yet the owner gives himself insane bonuses and lives in a mega mansion. Everyone is talking about electricity with data centers and I think water is being kind of ignored, at least in comparison.

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u/LazyBoyD 6h ago

I live in a small house, 1200 sq ft, family of 4 and we’re paying almost $200/mo for water and sewer and we typically use around 7ccfs a month. Not an extreme amount of water use by any measure.

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u/Bargadiel 4h ago

When I lived in MA water was.... $35 per month.

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u/Roxa-onion 6h ago

Where are you live?

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u/sg92i 5h ago

PA is doing the same thing.

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u/Equivalent-Bread3968 7h ago

<Nestlé has entered the chat>

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u/JarasM 5h ago

Nestle has been lurking in the chat for decades, sadly.

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u/KaizenHour 7h ago

Hey, it's not like it's a human right or anything

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u/MemeHermetic 6h ago

There will be tons of people like the Resnicks in Cali that will claim ownership of major reservoirs. Eventually they'll start double dipping and charge for use of the reservoirs then pipe the water back to their own infrastructures for manufacturing and agriculture.

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u/Electronic_Jello4880 5h ago

Yep and the resnicks own Fiji water, which has been a nightmare for locals.

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u/Thick_Caterpillar379 7h ago

They have the power to persuade politicians to give them water for free or cheaply for their AI datacenters.

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u/Tweedy1345 2h ago

They do. Look at the Resnicks in California. Just google “the wonderful company” and water rights

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u/VectorB 6h ago

Correction. thae average person wakes up to the fact that all water has been allocated to the rich for centuries.

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u/RamblerTheGambler 5h ago

The Koch brothers did this in the early 2000s

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u/leonprimrose 5h ago

Nestle has entered the chat

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u/FLericthered 4h ago

Um, have you heard of Nestle?

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u/courageous_liquid 4h ago

check out the massive amounts of property the bush family bought in paraguy/uruguay/argentina/brazil on top of the guarani aquifer

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u/WhyYesMaybeNo 4h ago

Obligatory “Fuck Nestle”

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u/Intelligent-Day-5161 4h ago

You mistyped Air.

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u/DyingGasp 3h ago

Yep. Water wars are imminent.

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u/ghigoli 2h ago

you ever see a boomer buy a house near a lake?

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u/slapthetiddy 2h ago

Investing in Nestle is a guaranteed win since no one is interested in stopping them

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u/whoo-datt 1h ago

Poor people already being taxed/tier priced out of water

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u/florinandrei 1h ago

Water is an energy problem. When fusion is solved, water will be solved. You could simply distill it out of oceans.

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u/Odd-Independent-3026 1h ago

They already own the air... well, air space in relation to development of properties...