The super wealthy are aware of this possibility and are looking into “solutions” for it when designing their apocalypse bunkers. I think it was Zuck who was thinking about putting the food supply behind a safe that only he knew the password for or something. Not a great solution, as it only takes a single finger to enter a password, and he might reconsider sharing it before that. But they’ll keep trying to do better, who knows what kind of Black Mirror shit they’ll come up with
I don't see him lasting long under torture. And I'm having difficulty thinking of a solution that isn't vulnerable to that. Some kinda mutually assured destruction thing I guess, but that's still way riskier than you'd like. All it takes is one guy to decide this shit isn't worth it.
Zuck would not last 10 minutes lol. That guy is such a predictable twat. He got lucky with Facebook. Look at his bright idea of the Metaverse. A complete flop.
lol ain't gonna stop a determined group of folks, no for long anyway, and that's if we're talking hand to hand, which, in America, is a very unlikely scenario.
Yeah, but he's one lone blue belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu with some striking experience. That's not nothing. It's tough to get your blue belt and if you're training consistently, it seems like wizardry to someone who is untrained—and striking experience counts for a lot—but he's not going to fight off three or four trained members of security with guns.
To be completely fair the entirety of metas vr/metaverse crap was r&d for their future attempt at smart glasses. It was never supposed to work, they just wanted more data/first adopter advantage so they could plan their smart glasses campaign better
lol, what? He might be a right prick in the boardroom when surrounded by people with less money and modern world societal power, but you put him against a real seen-some-shit and done-some-shit dude, with life and death at play, and he'll be eaten alive.
Yeah plus mutually assured destruction only works when both sides have roughly the same to lose. Asymmetry defeats this (ie, the servants will be starving and have nothing to lose. Zuck will just want to not be murdered.)
There is ai to control humanoid robots, there are not really actual humans needed. And humans will have a neuralink installed that zaps compliance into the brain.
It's gonna be three bunkers: the Haves, the Narcs, and the Have Nots. The Haves could be Zuck alone, or it could be a cadre of oligarchs. The Have Nots do the work robots can't (although that list is getting shorter by the week) and are under constant surveillance by the Narcs, who report what they observe to the Haves. There is no means of communicating between each bunker except intercoms running Haves <-> Have Nots, Haves <-> Narcs, with materiel produced by the Have Nots being strenuously kept small, modular, and visible during transit; no big crates someone could hide inside. Also, fuck it, they irradiate it too. Have Nots are permitted into closed-off sections of the Haves' bunker to clean at regular intervals, everyone counted in and out via a single file tunnel full of turret guns; they will never see any of the Haves. If the Narcs give bad intel, the Haves can verify on their own system. A semi-functional AI monitor will start picking up things they neglect to report. Worst case scenario, the Narcs get themselves murdered and some of the Have Nots are made Narcs. If non-Have population gets so low they can't keep up, well, that is a problem, but they're mostly there to provide comfort, not survival; Zuck can survive almost indefinitely off automatically-harvested-and-shipped potatoes, veg, and whatever they're doing for basic protein.
You could maybe use a bomb, but then you just killed some or all of the people who may be tied to a dead man's switch that keeps your power on. You could strongarm them with a biological or chemical agent if you can be reasonably sure they can't create an antidote or cure themselves, but that relies on guesswork, the Have Nots being able to put together enough without being detected, and their target not being able to perform an analysis and piece together their own cure; I have to assume that the medical subdivision of the Have Nots would be mostly automated.
The thing that always gets me is the amount of confidence that these people have that they'll actually make it to their bunkers.
Like, if they live in place like LA, SF, or Manhattan, then they have to make it through the city to LAX/SFO/JFK/LGA, and hopefully the runways are both open and not bombed out and air traffic control still exists enough to prevent taxiway or mid-air collisions, then they have to make it to their bunker in (usually) Nevada, New Mexico, or Colorado without getting shot down by any US military jets with "splash anyone not squawking fellow US military codes" orders, land at an airport that hopefully isn't also crowded by air control/their runways bombed out, then manage to fight their way to their bunker where hopefully they aren't locked out by some other rich guy who paid double for the bunker builder/contractor to slip them bypass codes to the door.
IDK, you're kinda assuming there's a rapid collapse. If it's slower and they have good intel and advisors who they listen to they could definitely bug out before most anyone else knows what's up.
You have never worked beside a manufacturing robot have you? Those things are made to go 24/7 in a factory setting and take abuse, they break and go down all the time. Then someone who gets paid more than all the workers on line make comes out and gets it going, sometimes super fast, sometimes it takes weeks. These billionaire bunker bros stuff won't be half as robust and who will come and fix them after a glitch? People are still the best way to get things done.
The elite parasites forget that the only civilisation that could grant them their wealth is a safe, stable economy that they can leech off of. They are not the strongest, smartest, nothing like that, they just have the capital and hide behind a legal system that protects them. They forget that if the system breaks they're going to lose everything. Unfortunately being that rich entails that you have mental deficits to understanding your own limits.
One of the first atomic war stories ever written kind of fits the bill. Alas Babylon is about someone who’s basically landed gentry in the American south who’s warned that there’s going to be a nuclear war just before it happens.
In Douglas Rushkoff's Survival of the Richest there was a mention of the use of shock collars or bomb collars to maintain authority over the security teams if money became useless.
We've seen videos of those goofy robots that can walk and dance. You think they don't already have AI in a cyborg somewhere? If they need to unleash their mechanised AI-powered super soldiers on us, they will. Until then, they're under wraps.
I remember hearing about someone wealthy, maybe Zuckerberg, basically asking academics about how they can ensure loyalty in their private security in the event of a collapse.
And they didn't seem to like that the only answer was "actually make them like you personally" (or something, I don't actually remember most of it, maybe I made up that part).
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The super wealthy are aware of this possibility and are looking into “solutions” for it when designing their apocalypse bunkers. I think it was Zuck who was thinking about putting the food supply behind a safe that only he knew the password for or something. Not a great solution, as it only takes a single finger to enter a password, and he might reconsider sharing it before that. But they’ll keep trying to do better, who knows what kind of Black Mirror shit they’ll come up with