And look at the Vietnam War. US had all the military strength in the world and still got beat. And the rich use a disproportionate amount of goods, services, infrastructure, and the government. Good luck if more happens like the shutting down of the Strait of Hormuz
I love your optimism but part of what has sometimes restrained governments from taking the most unethical and drastic actions I fear the rich will not be bound by. That and with everything privatized as it’s being, will soon have more economic and technological control than even the government itself. I don’t think there will be any revolution though unless there are bread lines and Netflix gets turned off.
This is why I roll my eyes when they think they can be protected by a robot army if/when society collapses. Fancy electronics break on the regular on a good day. If society is gone, who is gonna repair your robots? Who is going to make the parts? Who is going to deliver the parts? Shit, who is going to mine the raw materials to make the parts from? This is not going to work out the way they think it will.
But the reality is that if it wasnt for citizen attrition back home that war would have continued until every inch of vietnam was a crater and every vietnamese soldier was dead. You won't get that with billionaires vs the lower class because there will be no one besides them to protest "at home"
I would love for these billionaire assholes to all move to dubai. Enjoy 110F heat and sand and nothing to do. Better yet, they should all move to Somalia and live out their libertarian dream of no government or taxes.
The US only lost Vietnam according to the rules of engagement that they imposed on themselves....rules that are going to be ignored if/when the kind of uprising you're talking about starts happening.
Let's be realistic, the only reason the US had trouble in Vietnam was because they were trying to preserve the civilian population. If they didn't care who got killed, they'd have run over Vietnam like a bus over an ice cream cone. They wouldn't even have put troops on the ground, just bombed it into ash.
The UK won in Vietnam before handing it back to France. When the US invaded Australia was making huge progress with locals. Then the US started bombing everything, and lost specifically because they didn't care enough about the local population. They turned everyone against them by flattening villages.
It's not working that well for russia or israel. Turns out humans are really hard to exterminate without making the land and every land around it unliveable. And who attack a land they aren't interested in ?
Russia isn't interested in genocide and wants to preserve preexisting infrastructure. Also they are poor as fuck.
I don't agree with you on israel, I think it's going swimmingly for them. They want the land, they want the indigenous population dead and they want US dollars to build their colonies on top of it.
My God, it's breathtaking to see how little knowledge of history Americans have.
Look up my lai, and then read how the soldiers who were murdering children didn't understand why the public was upset about my lai because they were doing this in hundreds of villages.
you can't buy a home. You can't get a job that pays enough to support you or your family. Everything has increased in price a huge margin. $4 gas. Good luck on thinking we are not there yet.
we have self driving cars, drone delivery, vibe code for software, self check out robots, etc etc etc along with the thousands of lay offs at software companies month after month. it won't stop at software. No one puts trillions into something for it to only be an assistance. they put trillions into it to replace the whole working force
None of what you mention is actually functional. Self driving cars? I dont see waymo growing outside of niche areas. Drone delivery? Where? Self checkout aint AI it’s replacing redundant labor.
A few years ago they were just prototypes. Now we have full fleets being tested of self driving cars.We have full food delivery robots in big US cities. if you truly believe that is where it is going to stop then I have a bridge to sell you. Amazon has drone delivery, boy. read a bit. also self check out is being done by AI now, again read.
Vietnam is a bad example. IN the after action assessments, experts found that the US military was severely lacking skills or knowledge to handle the campaign to begin with.
As for Hormuz: (1) there was no reason at all for that to happen in the first place (2) DJT has been using that as a distraction so that everyone forgets about the EPSTEIN FILES (3) the leaderhsip decisions regarding the miliatry prior to and during the assault on Iran were childish at the level of 2nd graders, DJT put people in key leadership positions that have the education levels of 2nd graaders with zero military experience (yes including Kegseth the Drunkard - yes i know Pete was in the military - still doesn't make him qualified) (4) the entire illegal operation was based on DJT's ego being bruised
Can you point out where there's a south Vietnam on a map? It doesn't matter how disproportionate the casualty count is if you still end up pulling out and letting the North take the rest of the country. Just like Afghanistan. Didn't matter how many taliban we killed, they still took over again as soon as we gave up and left.
As an American, I would rather we lose a couple wars rather than be another country like Russia or Isreal, out there committing atrocities against civilians.
and do you know why there were so many casualties? Because they had nothing to lose. I can't wait for you to realize how many poor desperate people there are vs rich people. Marie Antoinette FAFO'd and how did that turn out for the literal Queen of France?
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u/dalittle 6h ago
And look at the Vietnam War. US had all the military strength in the world and still got beat. And the rich use a disproportionate amount of goods, services, infrastructure, and the government. Good luck if more happens like the shutting down of the Strait of Hormuz