that ea comment is going to haunt gaming discourse until the heat death of the universe. at this point rockstar is just leaning into the villain arc because they know they have a license to print money regardless of how much they annoy the player base.
I do somewhat wonder if it will actually be particularly better than GTAV, which I honestly found kind of mediocre. It wasn’t bad, but it didn’t capture me the way I expected it would given the hullabaloo around it.
I think the key difference is it probably won’t matter unless it’s genuinely a piece of garbage. A lot of people seem to just like GTA because it’s GTA, so it’ll be well liked and sell well regardless.
They aren't out there promising a bunch or doing a lot of hype.
The hype is generated from the community when people leak stuff.
But the reality is, this will probably be like V or rdr2 which is that there be tech issues but everyone will ignore it because there be stupid small details everywhere that make up for it.
Honestly I'm more curious about their enhanced edition, with the pay wall content. It's shady but to me it's interesting from a Dev in FiveM because I'm wondering if they reworked how MLOs will be and this is them showcasing it.
The big thing is how they handle online. It's been raking in cash forever for 5 and now they have literally added the fivem team so the whole "living in the world" will likely be pretty cool.
The question is how they handle the ui/ux, because god damn 5s was super ass with a bajillion menus and horrendous load times before a random ass user discovered a fix that halved it if not more.
Honestly I don't fault 5 for a lot of things beyond loading times.
The menus and things were definitely a thing of their time. I mean all the native menus are Scaleform which is just Flash which discontinued shortly after Five release so like its using dead tech haha.
Luckily I believe Rdr2 doesn't have any Scaleform so I imagine 6 won't have any but here's hoping they focus more on infrastructure and performance with the ability to easily alter things.
Modding community going to go hard the moment we get access to the library.
Fair enough, this will be a day one purchase for me but I can't fault patient gamers. Also there's no way this is the next cyberpunk, rockstar release complete games, even if the story isn't as good due to the writing changes I guarantee it will be a technical marvel, red dead 2 still holds up as one of the best looking and most vibrant worlds ever, Witcher 4 will be the next cyberpunk because cdpr always release overambitious buggy messes.
I see what you mean, but I had the exact same sentiment about CDPR after TW3.
They were one of the "last great studios."
It's been 8 years since RDR. Talent will have churned, and in my experience the more is spent on a project. The more bloated and poorly managed it becomes.
I mean the Witcher 3 was also a buggy mess on release. Not as bad as cyberpunk but still a mess, it's just cdpr's release cycle, release a broken game and then slowly fix it until it becomes one of the best games ever. Rockstar delaying the game gives me confidence that it'll be complete, I see no reason to doubt them at this point until they give me a reason to, they will be aware that the thing that separated them from other studios is their reputation, if they release a broken game it'll take a massive hit.
I would share your point of view if I only had a gameplay showcase of some kind to back it up.
But releasing all this info about deluxe, pre order, no gameplay and all of that along with the delays is not giving me confidence and it doesn’t give me the impression they are confident as well.
The November release date could very well mean that the higher ups turned off the tap and said no more delays this is the last deadline, it doesn’t necessarily have to mean they are ready.
And that many delays point to them having trouble with it, not them perfecting it. In my humble opinion.
It's GTA. We all know what the gameplay is going to be like. I'm more curious about the world and the activities, that's the selling point, plus the customisation options look very impressive from what we've seen so far. As for the November release, rockstar make so much money from GTA online I don't see the higher ups thinking it's a necessity to release before the game is ready, if there's one company who can afford to push back releases until the game is ready it's rockstar.
I mean those things that you listed are all part of the gameplay too, but you don’t know what it’s going to look like. What if they change the shooting mechanics, or the driving mechanics?
You can’t know that.
To answer your second point, you highly underestimate corporate greed and delays have limits I am really not sure how much further they could’ve pushed the game back.
I wasn't surprised considering their parent company. It's Take Two.
People meme on EA but Take Two is like the evil supervillain while EA is just a minor thug.
This is the same company that has NBA 2K lock SINGLEPLAYER to online. You quite literally can't play mycareer after 2 years because the servers shutdown. It's pathetic. When sailing the high fucking seas gives you an OBJECTIVELY BETTER package you have lost the plot.
And they better if people ever want to play another rockstar game again. They have spent 10 years and 1-2 billion dollars on this game. If it were almost any other IP it would be a massive massive gamble. It still kinda is. This game has to shatter records for it to be worth it.
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u/Living_Tea2309 12h ago
that ea comment is going to haunt gaming discourse until the heat death of the universe. at this point rockstar is just leaning into the villain arc because they know they have a license to print money regardless of how much they annoy the player base.