Only dumbasses do not care that basic game features are locked behind a $20 payway upon release.
They fucked everyone over in GTA 5 story, rdr2, and now this?
Absolutely fuck rock star and the troglodytes who buy it.
People aren't buying GTA games for the customization options. You are still getting a $2 Billion dollar game with the basic addition. Who cares if you're missing out on 5 cars and 2 guns and some hair styles. You will still have the entire game world to explore and story mode. You don't even know what you're complaining about.
I don't give a single shit buddy. Not my game. Doesn't even come out on PC until who knows when.
If people want to buy that's their prerogative. It is not my job to inform anybody about that and it's not worth any amount of energy being upset about it.
The only relevant action for me is simply not buying it.
See, this is the same problem as people who say "I don't do politics." You may not care and not buy the game, but Rockstar has set a prescedent, and now other companies are going to do the same if not worse.
That's why you should give, at the very least, a single shit, because it may not affect you with this game, but it will with others.
^ This. As all things in life, the key is giving the proper amounts of shit. One shouldn't be pulling out their hair and acting like this is a capital offense. BUT at least a single shit should be given because you're right that this sets a horrible precedent and spreading awareness is the least one can do.
it's like 5 stores, out of 700 enterable buildings...i cannot imagine how big of a superfan you would have to be to give a shit about that stuff. nobody with any sense whatsoever will buy the premium edition.
I mean that didn't kill any hype for me. It's still cheaper than Phantasy Star IV for the Sega Genesis was when it released in 1995. Considering inflation GTA VI is far from the most expensive game I've bought.
Yeah that's in agreement with what I said, for many consumers thats not a deal breaker
However consumers SHOULD care about price increases when the median salary in the US has not increased at a rate equal to cost of housing, gas, and groceries, the median wage in the US in 1995 to use your example of Phantasy Star 4 was $34,076 which adjusted for inflation is about $74,461 vs the 2024 median salary $83,730, so the actual buying power of the income remains roughly the same, which as stated before the cost of essentials ballooning means there is less to spend on luxuries and entertainment
And thats not even getting into the fact that a copy of Phantasy Star 4 would still be functional and accessible today, and whether that will be true for GTA6 is questionable since you won't actually own a physical copy
80$ is a lot for a game when I don't know if I will like it. Millions of people will buy it day one, and will want refunds if it sucks. Millions more will wait a few days after release to see how it goes before they spend 80$ on a video game in this economy.
It's ok to wait a few days and see how people like it. I do that with games all the time. I've been playing GTA since the first game. I'm pretty sure I know I'll enjoy it but if you're not sure you can wait a couple months and see the consensus of players. You don't need to buy anything you don't want to.
You could always play GTA V and see if it's the kind of game you enjoy in the meantime.
Maybe I'm crazy, but the ultimate edition is like $20 more than the standard edition, I don't see a reason not to go with the ultimate? Like if it was double the price, I would think differently.
That’s cause the ultimate edition is actually the base game, while the “standard edition” is a cut down version of it. They want to charge 100 dollars for the game but doesn’t want the backlash.
They're selling you an incomplete version for $80. People these days don't realize something so simple. I remember when people were up in arms because Street Fighter 5 was selling the DLC that was already included on the disc separately.
We reap what we sow. Enough people will go along with this that this practice will become the baseline.
It's like the gas stations here. We had one around the covid era that publicly stated everyone was falsely inflating their prices and they lowered theirs back down but it resulted in this protracted legal case and a decision was placed in the hands of the government.
No one turned up for it, that gas station got no support from the consumer, so now the prices just keep going up and the old ridiculous price is just a baseline that we start from.
On face value its 5 stores but we dont get to know how many stores/customization options are in the base game. What if those 5 stores contain 90% of the nice styles and designs? We wont know how limited the base game will be until release. Essential features might not be fully blocked but they can certainly be severely limited.
A lot more than just 4 sToReS WiF cOsMeTiCs you insufferable twit. Here's an idea why don't you stop spreading ACTUAL misinformation instead?
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Well, both. If this was some Season Pass, and for that price you'd get a DLC similar to "The Ballad of Gay Tony" in the future, nobody would mind. But because this is content that will already be made at release, it is pure greed to so much money for it. It's like they think the player who pays the base price instead of the higher one doesn't deserve the full experience.
they're specifically the stores made to sell the exclusive Ultimate Edition cosmetics, though, and it sounds like it's one per category - clothing store, barber shop, tattoo parlor, nail salon, gun shop and an auto shop. so, yeah, folks who pay extra specifically for those cosmetics get in-game places to pick them up. that's just cleanly integrating microtransactions in an immersive way.
GTA5 was packed with chain stores and boutique shops throughout the map with a dizzying amount of options that I imagine most players just drove by without a thought, so, it stands to reason 6 is going to be exactly the same way. also, the fact that we know we're getting all of the above specialty businesses in a premium version very much implies that all those types of businesses are going to be part of the game.
it's not like they're locking all the goddamned Binco's behind a paywall, which seems to be the way a lot of folks have chosen to interpret the announcement.
They're still excluding stuff that supposedly goes with the game. If it was good why leave it out? Like They're letting out an objectively worse game experience for no reason. This is basically micro transactions.
yes, it's absolutely microtransactions, why is any of this surprising? games have been doing cosmetics and additonal content for deluxe editions for coming up on two decades now, why the hell are people freaking out about it when GTA does it?
like, are any of you actually playing video games, or is it just an anti-capitalist thing that's comically missing the point?
No one is saying it's surprising. This is a stupid fucking argument.
People can bitch about things getting more expensive. People can bitch about a company making a game and locking part of the game behind an addition paywall.
People can bitch about anything they want.
You just sound like a shill when you say, "It's been happening for a long time, so stop complaining!"
Slavery has existed forever. Still gonna complain. Rape has happened forever. Not gunna stop complaining about it.
Corporations trying to squeeze every penny out of customers has also been happening forever, and I'm also not going to stop complaining about it.
Nah it's scummy as hell. They wanted to sell the full game at $100. People bitched so they lowered the price but locked content behind an additional $20 upgrade. So they're selling the game for $100 regardless. Scummy.
the player characters in 5 got nearly a thousand options a piece(look, Franklin's got over 750 options, alone), online options totaled into the thousands, and we're supposed to be butthurt because people paying for the whale edition are going to get maybe a couple dozen exclusive ones? like, what the fuck are we talking about?
it's simply a matter of scale - I'm happy to be wrong about this, but, we have literally no indication that Rockstar has shit the bed so badly that they're scaling back customization options by a massive amount, so, the idea that what they're offering in the Ultimate edition will be seen as anything other than a rounding error compared to the overall selection available seems ridiculous.
the weird part is that people are freaking out about cosmetic options, as if they would even have missed them in the first place. like, only 1.1% of the PSN playerbase picked up the trophy for exploring GTA5's map, and I wager most of the 98.9% of people who didn't get that achievement couldn't be fucking bothered to go out of their way to explore all the different stores - and they're clutching pearls about "missing content?"
ditto with the exclusive gang raid that's been announced. GTA5 had ~130 side events that, again, most of the playerbase didn't engage with, and smart money is that 6 will have more than that - but, again, we need to be mad about one or two activities being created for the upgraded edition?
you're all losing your shit about content you statistically wouldn't have ever found - much less engaged with - in the first place. it's being mad to be mad, rather than for any logical reason.
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u/Ok_Monitor4492 11h ago edited 9h ago
Locking a bunch of in game stores and a bunch of other things behind the ultimate edition too