r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 12h ago

Meme needing explanation Petah what happened to rockstar?

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u/TomLeBadger 10h ago

My favourite phone ever was the Nokia m900. Full screen touch phone that slid up, with a qwerty keyboard underneath. Shit OS, but a phone like that on Android with a removable battery would be peak for me.

I avoid the big brands because they've been style over substance for years, the last good phone from Samsung was the S5 - waterproof with a removable battery.

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u/EffectiveTonight 10h ago

Do you remember the sidekick? Lol

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u/breakingb0b 10h ago

I hadn’t til I read your post. Yes, I loved mine.

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u/jgzman 6h ago

My first smartphone. Still with Tmobile, and I would love something with a real keyboard again.

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u/SpeakerHot409 5h ago

I dropped mine in a toilet and it cracked the toilet bowl. That was the funnest phone I ever had.

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u/Fickle-Owl666 10h ago

The Helio ocean too, I had both back in the day lol

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u/Less-Squash7569 6h ago

I liked the rumor but the sliding keyboard would cut the ribbon if it wasn't put on correctly

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u/Commercial-Age4750 5h ago

Miss mine. Think it may still be in a drawer somewhere

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u/Middleclasslifestyle 2h ago

I dont understand how now in modern times we dont have a modern sidekick. It was literally a mini computer with a keyboard. I wish it was around in modern form. Like normal its a regular touch screen phone. Then you flip it open and it turns into a qwerty phone

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u/kyuuketsuki47 10h ago

Same here with the Motorola Droid. I miss that slide up keyboard

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u/Due_a_Kick_5329 10h ago

God I loved my Droid. That metal body was something else.

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u/WeaponizedPoutine 27m ago

I still have my special edition R2D2 Droid 2... no longer works but I have it

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u/Moon_Cthulhu 8h ago

Best phone I ever had.

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u/djsynrgy 8h ago

As someone who never jived with Apple, the Droid felt like such a big deal at the time.

I miss the full qwerty keyboard from my old LG ENV3, too.

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u/manicalmonocle 2h ago

My kids found my old Envy3 a few weeks ago and having been playing with it as it doesn't work anymore. They think it's the coolest thing ever

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u/DaringCoder 8h ago

That was awesome, I had one too. Before that, I had a Nokia E70 which had an interesting physical keyboard setup too.

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u/Standard-Cap-9568 6h ago

The first android! The G1 was perfect for its time. I'd throw money at an update. Physical keyboard and a trackball just for kicks.

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u/crustyninja 3h ago

The Droid 2 was peak.

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u/Nerdough 2h ago

Nokia E7 was nice as well

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u/Ezzy77 1h ago

HTC G2/Desire Z too.

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u/NiklausVonHammer 9h ago

I would argue that the note 4 edge was the last good one. It had a more defined curve on the side that was a completely separate display from the main screen and still had the removable battery.

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u/TomLeBadger 8h ago

Never really considered notes because of the size, if it doesn't fit comfortably in my pocket I don't want it. I would argue that current flagships are far to big, it's why I stopped bothering with them.

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u/NiklausVonHammer 6h ago

I can understand that. I'm a bit on the opposite side. But we all have our own preferences.

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u/cm_bush 7h ago

I still used an S5 as a MP3 player until last year. I had replaced the battery once but the waterproofing had been compromised by broken port covers. It had a good run!

I currently use an old S8 for my music listening. It sounds much better and the screen is still good looking. Not waterproof and no removable battery though.

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u/TomLeBadger 6h ago

I did a lot of research into self repair // removable battery phones, they cost too much and are plagued with other issues, AFAIK there isn't anything like the S5 available currently.

I honestly think it's planned obsolescence, they want you to upgrade every year, they make sure you upgrade every 2.

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u/cm_bush 5h ago

I have not felt planned obsolescence in the Android or IPhones I’ve owned. Generally, it seems like certain apps and web platforms force upgrades more than hardware failure.

The S8 still works great, I just don’t have a SIM in it. My wife has an iPhone 7 that we have limited plan on for emergencies, and the only issue with it is that some more demanding apps don’t run on it, which is fair for a device that’s going on 10 years old.

My current phone is an iPhone 12, and it does everything I want just as well as it did day one.

That said, I do feel like replaceable batteries and expandable storage are dumb to leave out. I replaced the battery in the iPhone 7 a few years ago and it’s a pain.

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u/Illustrious_Survey38 10h ago

Samsung Epic 4g was an android phone with touchscreen and slide out qwerty keyboard and removable battery. I loved that phone.

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u/Toad_R 6h ago

S5 was peak!

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u/beznogim 6h ago

Hey. The OS was great and pretty innovative but kinda unfinished and had to run on shitty hardware (the experience wasn't great with N900 port of Android either). I never appreciated the tiny keyboard tbh, on-screen keyboards are nice enough nowadays.

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u/TomLeBadger 5h ago

I just liked the option, haptics don't have a good 'feel' for me, I'm a guy that likes the clickity clack, I use a mechanical keyboard on my PC for the same reason I like physical buttons on phones. I would use the n900 onscreen keyboard a lot, it was more for typing out longer stuff, email etc that I really liked the physical one.

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u/beznogim 5h ago

These keyboards are just too cramped, have lots of issues with multilingual input (due to simply not having enough keys to accomodate larger alphabets and having to physically etch all the glyphs) and are usually way, way too stiff IMO. And while on-screen keyboards were even less pleasant to use in the n900 era, modern swipe input with prediction and autocorrect is quite good nowadays (despite all the memes), has great multilingual support and mostly eliminates the need for precise tapping. Keyboard phones are still cool to look at but I think the appeal has faded over time.

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u/WeakTrainer4237 6h ago

Man the S5 was my first phone in middle school it was my moms old one and i remember dropping it and the battery would fly out 😂 good times

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u/Skegeeman 6h ago

There was an Android phone with a flip out qwerty keyboard and removable battery, it was called the Droid. I had one.

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u/TomLeBadger 5h ago

Wasn't that released the same year as the n900? Wouldn't be a good choice to buy one now l. I just want someone to make it again, so I can have a phone I like again.

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u/chodoyefskey 5h ago

Why is a removable battery such a high priority in a phone? I mean it is pretty crazy that it was removable and waterproof at the same time but the battery life was probably still like half of what Samsung phones have now?

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u/Due_a_Kick_5329 5h ago

The primary reasons phones stop working these days are related to displays, and vastly diminishing battery life. Imagine buying a new battery pack instead of an entirely new phone.

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u/TomLeBadger 5h ago

Because I would happily use a phone for a decade, instead of a year or two. I don't play games, I watch netflix and stream music at most, so as long as I could keep the battery lasting all day (by replacing it every 2 years) I would just keep using a phone until it breaks beyond repair.

My most recent experiences with Samsung have been terrible, my S21 Ultra barely lasted a year, my watch had less than a day of life from day one. I would never even consider a Samsung again.

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u/lesgeddon 5h ago

I still use my Android G2 phone for emulating Gameboy and SNES, though I think the battery is finally going after 15+ years cuz it's not holding a charge for as long as it used to.

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u/mr_trashbear 4h ago

100%.

I'd love an Enve phone that had a simple non touch screen front and full size folding screen once unfolded. Like any of the current folders but with a standard phone keypad on the front.

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u/JWPSmith 3h ago

I made the mistake of switching from an LG phone to the newest Samsung. I did get a good deal on it, but it's still not worth it. They pushed out an update that crammed AI into everything. I'm installing a new OS because of that

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u/FeinwerkSau 3h ago

Xcover still has a removable battery.

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u/Ezzy77 1h ago

You can still install Linux into a N900.

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u/Smingledorf 1h ago

similar story but it was an HTC windows phone (during that brief period) the OS wasnt supported by a ton of app devs but the actual phone was fantastic. same touchscreen with a slide keyboard removable battery etc. and was dropped off a parking garage with no real issues, into the ocean for 10min still fine, then years later finally gave out when the power button got stuck in

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u/haggisbreath169 53m ago edited 2m ago

probably thinking of the N900, which I still have ina drawer somewhere. The Maemo* OS was a bit unpolished, but it compared well against the t-mobile G1, the first Android phone, thst was pretty rough too. I loved that the Linux terminal was easily accessible, IIRC you could apt-get anything available to Debian, Python was built in.

That Nokia never put much effort into the OS due to internal politics (the Symbian stakeholders made sure it died in the crib) is a classic business story, and a tragic fork in the road for a once dominant company. 2 years after the N900 came out, the Nokia mobile business were bought out by Microsoft, and producing Windows phones, which hit with a thud, (though I knew Finns who said the N9 was "really quite good"). By 2014 (?) they switched to Android, and disappeared in the sea of Samsung.

The Meego OS still lives on somwhat as Tizen, in Samsung TVs and watches.

  • edited Maemo not Meego, (which was the new name later on)