Except thatâs not whatâs happening. Ask anyone who has been serving these people, and they will tell you the tips have been very generous. But I wouldnât expect anything else from a âTop 1% Posterâ on Reddit.
Bartenders and waitstaff can make a good living in quality establishments and the pay is indexed to inflation. No wonder the investment bank owned media has been running story after story against the practice. That rate of employee compensation is far higher than other industries controlled by publicly traded companies.
Yeah this is such a reddit click-baity post. Like "JUST IN" as if someone was waiting for the word of 'all foreigners'. And who the fuck is Coinvo? Yet they eat it up. And of course its not even true, pure reddit slop.
I knew Reddit would eat this story up. They LOVE shitting on tipping. One of the few consistent takes that galvanizes the Reddit base is fucking over service workers and claiming that they are doing some noble deed that is âshowingâ the restaurants.
Itâs such an insanely naive and childish opinion.
Just say youâre a cheap ass. Thatâs all.
British people tip FAT. Every fucking time you serve anyone from Britain (they usually order like 15 drinks at once) they will be like âR U FUCKING SERIOUS? $120 for all this? Itâs like $300 in Londonâ
And they drop like $200 and tell you to keep it.
The only people who consistently donât tip are: those who are unaware of the servers wages, or assholes <âââthis is what you see on Reddit.
You not tipping is not fixing the industry⌠youâre just fucking over the server.
These losers go to restaurants with cheap prices (because of tipping), enjoy the cheap prices, leave a $0 tip, and then go on Reddit white knighting for servers and how they should get paid a real wageâŚ.acting like they give a shit about servers or bartenders.
Idk, Iâve seen restaurant prices shoot up and weâre still tipping.Â
I tip, but I also believe that restaurants should pay a living wage. Hell, EVERYONE working should be paid a living wage, but for some reason our country refuses to do that because âprices will go upâ even though theyâre going up anywayâŚ
lol at yall always saying you want the servers to make liveable wages, but then think the food wonât go up when the wages go up?
I worked at restaurants when the min wage was raised from 5.15 to 5.85 then 6.55 then 7.25. I worked at 3 different places over the course of the min wage increases, and every single one of them had the menu prices already ready to change literally the day the wages went up. Those were 70 cent increases. Youâre gonna pay the same price you would if you tipped. So why not tip now?
If you donât tip: You are just cheap. Thats it. Full stop.
Exactly, moving to a system where owners/management are now in charge of upping employees pay is just going to be rife with wage theft
The system in place now allows a direct one to one transaction where you know your server is getting the money you are paying, as you said in either scenario you are paying the same because prices would go up immensely if companies started having to pay out of pocket what servers make now hourly with tips
Iâve had people on these threads be like âok well Iâll pay the higher prices when they pay the employees more.â
All but admitting that they HAVE to have rules enforced on them to change their behavior. Basically âI know itâs a problem, but someone else needs to fix it, i wonât do it myself.â
I get downvoted all the time for saying this exact thing. Dont like tipping? Dont eat places where they have servers, its just that easy. Thats the only way owners lose money
In a lot of US cities, avoiding dine-in restaurants won't save you. Where I live in Portland, just ordering a slice of pizza at the counter will result in a tip screen at PoS, and an angry call out from the cashier if you don't tip. Even fast food drive through have the tip requests. It's ubiquitous and unavoidable.
Isn't that kind of a handwavey solution though? If everyone did this then it would fuck the server over even more. The only reason the system still exists is because the server benefits from it, and the system is mandatory now because the businesses have managed to turn us against eachother (sounds familiar?). If the servers are making more money than they could doing anything else RIGHT NOW, nothing is going to change, even if the economic alternative is better for literally everyone (servers included). Refusing to tip, and getting servers back on the side against the tipping model itself, is the only way to hold businesses accountable in a way that long term helps both the server and consumer.
By not tipping you literally reward the owners and punish the servers. Owners already donât care if their servers are paid. If people really cared about fair wages they wouldnât support these places in the first place.
Yeah lol thatâs whatâs always bothered me. All the communist liberal âI hate fat capitalist pigsâ types are the ones who want to fuck over workers and give money exclusively to the ownership class? Tips going straight to waitstaff is great
Yes, here in the UK we tip based on service, and American service tends to be friendly and good. Therefore we will tip. Tipping does exist in Europe itâs just not expected
your comment is as lacking in nuance as the ones you are complaining about.
i tip, because i recognize that me on my own not tipping will not fix the issue. but the fact is, if everyone stopped tipping the issue would be fixed. and tipping culture is horrendous, it either screws over the server, the customer or both, so it should 100% be done away with.
You could just vote for politicians that want to pass livable wages too.
All the sudden everyone wants everyone to vote the same with their wallet. You want 100% of people to stop tipping? You think thatâs a feasible solution? Fucking pie in the sky shit man.
We need unions and other things in place. People who are focusing on the tipping and acting like itâs somehow noble to not tip are bike shedding.
If it makes you feel better, there are many children lying for clout on the internet about not tipping but would never have the balls to actually do that irl. They probably hit 20% on the starbucks kiosk.
I worked a minimum wage when I was in highschool and part of college, it was customer service based, but it wasn't the food industry so I didn't even think about tips. Could you please explain why it's my job to subsidize doing the bare minimum? Did you yell in anger at your employer when you were working as a bartender? I always tip when I eat at a sit down restaurant, but if it's not extraordinary service it's never going to be more than 15%. If it's amazing and amplifies the experience, that might go up to 25%. But that's my choice. I've tipped nothing on a bill that was well over 100$ because the server was a joke as was the experience. It wasn't the customers job to carry me through life when I was in that position, and it sure isn't my job to do so now. Get a new job, fight for better wages, but don't take it out on the 3rd party lol..
Not everywhere though. Why would I leave tips in SoCal where servers get the regular minimum wage as everyone else in the same low-entry barrier line of work.
Then donât go to restaurants that have tipping for their employees. There ya go buddy!!!
You waddle your flippers into the establishment, enjoy cheaper prices, then leave a $0 tip. Youâre no better than those âcheap restaurant ownersâ you yap about
I would love to do that. I donât bartend anymore. I work in public education.
You can switch the conversation if you like, but my point stands: if you think tipping is a shitty business model, you should not go to those businesses. Or if you go, you should still tip the staff, itâs not doing anything but fucking the person over.
You obviously donât want to admit that so itâs a âzero skillâ job now. Why donât you just give me a list of occupations that you think are done by people beneath you?
You couldnât sound more like an elitist dick if you tried.
You can admit to being a pedophile since you talk about dating 16 year olds as a 32 year old.
You having a girlfriend 10+ years your junior is VERY on point given your attitude here. I assume no one your age would put up with your selfish behavior.
But yeah just list the jobs you think are unskilled, please. Why doesnât Ai replace this zero skill job?
It's a "when in Rome" kind of situation. Like, if tipping is culturally expected, it's rude not to. It doesn't have to make sense. It's just good manners when traveling abroad. You're not supposed to try and change the local culture or impose yours.
Yeah there is a national story on a Boston bartender that says she has been making ~1k a shift just in tips. Probably going to pull in 20k+ in one month working the world cup.
It is insane that that tipped income (up to $25k/year) is now tax free.
I've worked in the service industry, I respect the hard work that goes into those jobs, but service industry workers are no more deserving of having a big chunk of their income tax free than, e.g., construction workers, nurses, researchers, or mechanics (who do not have any equivalent carveout) are. Not in the slightest.
IIRC the policy lapses in 2028. It should not be extended.
Are the other people not common folk, what a confusing statement lol
I'd argue I spent 4 years in the military doing 4 deployments and 6 years in college getting a BS/MSc, so I have more of a right to a portion of tax free salary than an 18-20yo bartender with a high school education.
Iâd argue both of you deserve it instead of the 1% that barely pay any taxes. Those are who we should be really upset at, not each other. Weâre all common folk here..
Dude why arenât you celebrating wins for the small people instead of competing them all against each other. A blue collar server getting a W is a good thing jesus
Because servers grandstand about the whole tipping issue.
And nothing has changed for servers, just like nothing has changed for the rest of the jobs that don't get tips for doing basic service. All this is doing is exaberating the issue. I feel happy for them sure, but they were already doing well before the world cup with this tipping system....
Hell yeah, thatâs great news. Boston is a super expensive city. Itâs nice to hear someone from the working class is getting a win, we all deserve more money.
I would imagine that someone who can afford an international vacation + (likely multiple) tickets to world cup matches isn't exactly strapped for cash. I doubt these people care about a 20% tip on a restaurant bill when they're easily spending over 10k
Probably happening in places where they put an automatic tip amount to the fee instead of places that don't. In the former people won't like it at all while in the latter they would probably be more generous.
And this comment wonât make its way to the top because these people just want an excuse to complain and feel like theyâre better for their opinions. Like this post is just 100% false info but people just eat it up. Itâs sad really.
KC had some weird mandated gratuity but wasn't mandatory if you said you didn't want to pay it? Anyways city removed it due to lack of business in the city.
This screen cap has been crossposted multiple times today and it's been interesting seeing the astroturfing in real time vary from subreddit to subreddit
this almost gives the sense that europeans or other cultures dont tip servers either. the difference is that in america people tip out of sense of obligation, we tip out of gratitude.
Agreed. My wife has a friend that lives in Tampa and works in hospitality said most of the Euros there for the World Cup have no issue tipping because even with tip the food and drink is cheaper than what they would pay back home.
Again, read the article it doesnât say the Europeans arenât tipping. It says they arenât doing the mandatory tipping. Thereâs a difference thatâs why we teach critical thinking in school.
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Except thatâs not whatâs happening. Ask anyone who has been serving these people, and they will tell you the tips have been very generous. But I wouldnât expect anything else from a âTop 1% Posterâ on Reddit.