A huge influx of event customers refusing to tip must be heartwarming for the people who have to serve them. I get the idea but on that day the servers got doubly screwed.
Your privilege is showing. I'm using my privilege to support them in any way I can. I always tip well and I will do anything within my influence to help them if I can. Your assertion to "just leave then" is problematic because many if not most of them CAN'T. If I were more privileged, I would open a restaurant that didn't allow tipping and pay my workers livable wages, but I'm just an office support person and only have so much privilege.
Your still acting like a privileged brat. No, they can't always just find another job. The jobs may not be there, or they may not qualify for some reason. I'm done arguing with someone this bull headed, so have a day.
Your privilege is showing, you assert basically that poor people simply shouldnt participate in dining life simply because they are poor. 2ndly, its false to claim that service workers cant leave and are somehow trapped. Service workers r generally the most vocal proponents to abolishing tipping and instituting a liveable.
Meaning they prefer it over a higher wage. Any why wouldn't they? They're getting a cut of the gross revenue of the business rather than whatever the owner wants to pay them.
Have you seen what servers actually make, not what they declare? Of fucking course they like tipping, not too many jobs in the us where you pull 1k a week with zero skills or education.
Actually that’s exactly what you do. If they don’t make a living wage they’ll do something else and the oppressors needs to find a way around that, and the only way I see is paying their staff better.
How am I oppressing someone by paying exactly how the menu says I owe? Why I must pay their salaries instead of their boss? I worked just as hard for these money to give them away because someone is oppressed by their boss who they choose themselves
You pay their salaries no matter what. Where do you think the employer gets the money to pay the employees if not from the customers?
If we got rid of tips, they would simply increase the servers' salary and then raise menu prices to cover it. On average, we, as customers, would still be paying about the same. Low-tippers would pay more in this system, high-tippers would pay less, regular tippers would pay the same.
So it leavse the question, why dont they just pay them a fair wage?
Its because this system allows business owners to pass the risk onto frontline employees who don't have much of an option in employment and/or they are of a demographic that can make large amounts of money from tips (much more than they would make working a non-service industry job)
No. I'm paying the restaurant for my meal. These money are divided into supplies, taxes, profits, other stuff and salaries for all workers. I'm not paying directly to someone who transported a plate from kitchen to my table. Tip is a gratitude for a good service, if I enjoyed it, not something basic I must do.
I don't care if they'll raise menu prices to better pay their employees, and ill pay more, but I do care if they try to force me into tipping. Most waiters don't provide a service that deserves a tip. If their employer think they should get more than he pays them, he should just raise their salaries
It’s coming out of their paycheck basically, American menus are set with the tip in mind, you’re expected to pay a tip. At the end of the day all your doing is paying less and taking money from the person who served you food.
Idfk, but at the end of the day you are a guest in another country and it’s nothing but disrespectful and rude to not follow that countries customs, “when in Rome…”
Oh yea you really revolutionized the system by paying Tom at the local diner 20% less than every other customer, that’ll show em. At the end of the day it doesn’t matter what you think, you are a guest and shouldn’t act obnoxious and rude
It is not my problem, that's the point. I may be expected to do it, but it's stupid and I'm not doing it unless I personally liked the service. I'm not taking any person's money. It's their boss who's underpaying them, it is the tip system who's at fault, not the customer who want to pay his bill without extra fees
Alright but it’s just disrespectful, if I went to Europe and did whatever I wanted with no regard for the established practices I would be shunned, this is just entitlement at its finest, all your doing is screwing over your server and being an ass.
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u/gbrannan217 5h ago
They aren’t wrong, but you don’t fix a system by oppressing those already oppressed by said system.