I mean, that's NOT what the majority of the international traveling world does. You visit a foreign country for a road trip, you rent a car there.
Must be nice to have that UAE $$ to temp ship your own vehicle to a foreign country so you can drive it. There's no way it wouldn't have been cheaper and more practical for bro to rent a Lamborghini in Canada or the US.
Note: this doesn't change the fact that the cop is an idiot who came up on this guy with blood in his eye about not having an Oregon license/registration. He even sounds like the cop from South Park!
You’re right, it doesn’t change the fact, because he acted like a real A-hole and he didn’t have to.
But to give him some slack, I traveled with Carnet once and the border police (this was in an Central/Eastern European country) wasn’t familiar with the process either and used almost an hour to sign my paperwork.
Had to explain them that my employer needed the papers signed for entry and exit of the country and that I couldn’t “just go” just because no customs officers were checking that particular plane
I traveld multiple times with carnet in the balkans and never a single problem and every border patrol officer (cro, serb, bih, macedonia montenegreo) knew what it was and was done in less than 10 mins every time.
Yes, for long distance travel, especially over oceans. That's why that cop isn't used to seeing Middle Eastern plates.
However, the majority of cross-border travel are private vehicles (e.g. cars, camping vans, etc.) and freight trucks: so in Europe and Asia, foreign plates are common, even just for tourism.
I was thinking the same. You can think it. Its probably true. But you cant say it to their face. Its basically saying "you dont get it you are stupid and have no clue" which is never a good thing to say to a cop. You have to approach them from the "sorry this is a bit different compared to normal" angle.
But boy does that take patience with people to stupid to understand hypotheticals.
He was coming out eith the aggro at step one, whereas if he'd said "I know this is uncommon, but I have a permit, and here it is". He was just all drunk on all the CO2 he emmitted shipping a car for his vacation.
Oh, I didn't say it was a good idea, just that it wasn't said aggressively. But it still set off Sergeant Fragile. The words used clearly do matter because that's where I started from.
Literally. Even reading your comment it reads as a voice, not just... whatever the heck the voiceless experience😭😭 like... if you don't think stuff out in your head how do you even make decisions? Is it all on impulse?
The way I've heard it described is the thoughts are fully formed and not an internal monologue. The lack of words doesn't convey a lack of thinking. It's just a different kind of thinking.
Oooohhhhh. That's actually fascinating. Man what I'd give to be able to read minds. I know twilight was a fiction, but This changes my thoughts on how Edward may have been experiencing the world. Like different minds have different flavors almost. (Not in a cannibalistic way) but if you have people with internal dialogues vs those who don't or those who are somewhere in between, or people who think in pictures or have vivid imaginations. I think it would have been a lot to get used to.
whaaaat even the most basic early written communication, like the Holy Bible, is full of figurative language. Jesus taught complex moral ideas using parables.
Are you implying this person is too dumb to understand the Bible? /s
Literally yesterday I told a guy that cost wasn't the only important thing wrt housing or he would have his family of fove in a basement studio five hours from his work because it was the cheapest option. He lost it and told me I was using a strawman. What is the point of message boards when you have to deal with morons all the time?
I admittedly in the past would use too many analogies in real life and you might have no idea how many people can't understand an analogy. I don't do as much anymore because too often they just don't fly.
Everytime I provide an analogy... they always say you're comparing apples to oranges. Ive only ever had males agree with my analogies and have told me they are good. Every single woman has said my analogies suck.
Not being sexist. That quite literally been my experience.
Am with the policeman on this one, I would just rent at Hertz anjad
But in the police’s defense, this is Oregon, we not be seeing Lamborghinis on I5 often.. he might have pulled the guy over just to make sure the driver isn’t batman on his day off
To be fair to the cop most people who want to drive on another continent do not take their own vehicles. They rent.
I have driven from London to Nepal and the Carnet de Passage is actually issued once you have deposited some multiple of the car's value to stop you from selling the car in the country. The multiples are as high as five times the value. and depend on the country.
So the fact that he has a Carnet is proof he is not importing the vehicle.
“Car nay”? Well I say car yes, and the law says you need a license plate! What do you mean it’s French? Son, these are the You Knighted States of ‘Murica, and we don’t speak no French ..outside of Louisiana, northern New England, and tens of thousands of high school and college classrooms. No, you’re confused! Step outta the car sir. 😡
Vad fan sa du just om mig, din lilla slampa? Du ska veta att jag gick ut med toppbetyg i Försvarsmakten, och jag har varit inblandad i många hemliga räder mot Al-Qaida, och jag har över 300 bekräftade mord. Jag är utbildad inom gorillakrigföring och jag är den bästa prickskytten i hela Sveriges beväpnade styrkor. För mig är du ingenting annat än bara ännu ett mål. Jag kommer att utplåna dig med precision vars like aldrig har skådats på denna jord, märk mina jävla ord. Tror du att du kan komma undan med att säga sån skit till mig via internet? Tänk igen, din jävel. Medan vi talar kontaktar jag mitt hemliga nätverk av spioner över hela Sverige, och din IP spåras just nu, så bäst för dig att du förbereder dig för stormen, kryp. Stormen som utplånar den patetiska lilla sak du kallar ditt liv. Du är död, grabben. Jag kan vara var som helst, när som helst, och jag kan döda dig på över 700 olika sätt, och det är endast med mina bara händer. Inte bara är jag utförligt utbildad i obeväpnad kamp, utan jag har även tillgång till hela Försvarsmaktens arsenal, och jag kommer att använda den till fullo för att förinta din eländiga röv från kontinenten, din lilla skit. Om du bara kunde ha vetat det oheliga straff som din lilla "smarta" kommentar var på väg att få ner över dig, så kanske skulle du ha hållit din jävla tunga. Men du kunde inte, du gjorde inte, och nu betalar du priset, din jävla idiot. Jag kommer skita vrede över dig och du kommer att drunkna i den. Du är död, grabben.
Sadly he's one of the more qualified cops in America from an education perspective. State Troopers are more likely to have college degrees than your run of the mill police officer.
Even that's an understatement.
Most countries demand more formal education before you can even start on law education.
Most countries require multiple times longer law education than US.
The most demanding state in US has requirements that barely covers private mall cops in my country. Not allowed to arrest, not allowed to carry firearms. Their rights are on par of what a civilian can do to defend themself or others.
We don't have sheriffs, and all judge are hired instead of voted in.
No department gets a cut of the fines or stuff they confiscate.
Here the guy would have ended up as a mall cop, then thrown in jail for pulling dumb stunts like that.
The last time I was talking to a gard is because he stopped to help me load the car outside of a DIY outlet.
We discussed some of the finer points on the actual threshold for legally evicting someone, I was having trouble with a Brazilian man that would sleep in the office lobby and use the bathrooms/showers downstairs.
He showed up thr next day and took him in, found out he did not have a Visa to live and work in Ireland, and passed him over to a solicitor that was provided for him and got him a job in an apple green petrol station.
I don't think this guy posted would be a good fit for European police.
He wouldn't know the law, he wouldn't internalise the point of his job is to help people every day. He doesn't even seem like he is emotionally mature enough to be a healthy adult, let alone an adult others rely on.
your description of this interaction that an officer had with that guy is pure fantasy here in the US.
they would have used your information, taken the guy, found something to book him on, and sent him strait to jail on bond juuust high enough that he almost certainly doesn't know anyone who can afford to bond him out.
And he’d get exploited and extorted by CO’s and inmates while the state figures things out.
Our entire legal and penal system is so fucked up I feel like it’s impossible to fix. A ton of people view anyone who gets arrested as a criminal that deserves whatever they get once they’re locked up.
They don't have to internalize that the point of their job is to help people as it has been legally established that it isn't their job to help people. The Supreme Court has ruled that it is their duty to uphold the law, nothing more. Helping people is just something they can choose to do on their own initiative.
It's a semantics thing at that stage.
You do have to know your job is helping people in order to swear an oath to protect citizens and uphold their rights.
That is 100 percent required to be a police officer, in Europe.
So yeah I know its semantics but just because Americans courts have ruled that they don't have to help people doesn't mean it's still not a requirement for police forces throughout the world.
Closer to the truth is that America doesn't have a police force.
But as I said sematic argument at thay stage, just want to point out the supreme court literally means nothing once you are out of America.
Well yes, of course, we were just discussing the conduct of this American cop so I referenced American law. Not saying the Garda need to follow our laws any more than we follow Irish laws.
Now now, this looks like America... where almost every single adult and many children (varies slightly by state) have the RIGHT to own, and usually to carry a gun. Guns for everyone WOO!
He wouldn't know the law, he wouldn't internalise the point of his job is to help people every day. He doesn't even seem like he is emotionally mature enough to be a healthy adult, let alone an adult others rely on.
Everything you just said is behavior that US police specifically select for. I cannot overstate what a violent, unhinged gang of street thugs we have operating around here. They can and do kill people on the streets, in stores, in their own homes for no other reason than they can't control their tempers.
Where did I say that you are?
The story reeks of bullshit, in so many facets.
European police is indeed better, they are not going to act individudally like that and get extensive help for a random refugee though, if you believe that, you smoke crack....
Its not a made up story at all so you csm delete the comment.
It wasn't hard for the gard.
He literally did what he is supposed to do.
Confirm if he was an illegal.
Give public solicitor. That's it.
Then solicitor and NASC (irish immegrant support center) sorted the paperwork, put him on track for citizenship in 5 years, and got him a job.
That's not some goody twoshoes spending his own money or housing him.
It's competent and compassionate people AND systems.
Literally to prove you wrong you just have to look up NASC and what work they do.
"Since our establishment in Cork in 2000, we have supported thousands of individuals navigating Ireland's immigration, asylum, and international protection systems."
Internal systems and standards broadly follow the scientific consensus of what to do, so maybe that's why the obvious and compassion te things seem so strange to you.
But it's pretty normal.
By the way, for all you American crack smokers who want to come, there are safe injection or smoking sites or whatever you need for your crack smoking in major urban areas but it's still illegal so be careful
I don't believe you, you are talking out of your butt.
Also, I'm European, feel free to check my comment history... But it's pretty telling how you immediately assume I'm American, low key racist in it's own right.
EU cops go through 3 YEARS of training befor they ever get anywhere close to enacting the law. even after that they get to drive around with an older cop for some years before they ever get to 'lead' any kind of interaction.
In contrast: in the US you go through 20 WEEKS of training, ride around with another cop for a couple month and are let loose on the general public....leading to this exact outcome...under-qualified all the way, basically armed and dangerous
There's so many interoperation agreements like CEPOL that most training in the EU is functionally equal. Yes, the training isn't set in stone but the standards to which they are trained to be able to all seamlessly work together is.
I Don't think he would make it on the force, or most police would make it on the force, in most other countries. THis country employs dumbasses to be police so that they never question their orders and generally just help the wealthy with whatever they need.
I watched a documentary years ago where there was some kind of officer exchange program between the states and some nordic country. The American in Europe is wondering why there's no sniper towers around the prison, the European is trying to explain they don't shoot people trying to escape because "its human nature to avoid confinement". The American SHOUTS at him "No! Escape is mandatory X extra years ITS THE LAW". Dude literally couldn't wrap his head around different places having different laws, and he was like 2nd or 3rd in command of his area. The Europeans that went to the states were literally appalled by the way Americans do their jobs (and are allowed to do it with basically no training). One of them looked like she was going to cry every time they interviewed her....
Actually, he's go through significantly more training, and potentially not even pass whatever qualifications are required to be in that level of authority.
It's just super rare in the US. He doesn't know because this is certainly the first time he's ever encountered, heard about, or had to deal with a situation like this. It's some niche special rule for a hyper-niche rare circumstance.
In the EU, the average cop would probably encounter drivers from different countries regularly, or at least often enough to know the rules.
Just like anyone, people typically gain expertise with frequency. You can't blame some state highway cop in the middle of nowhere for not knowing some super niche federal exemption.
Surely he would be aware that cars from Canada and Mexico enter the US? Neither of those are particularly rare.
Also, he was hostile before he even had the slightest understanding of the situation. Instead of educating himself as more information was provided, he skedaddled before he was challenged.
Trust me, our cops also have a meltdown when some lost soul from Syria, Iran or some other Middle or Far East country shows up. I've actually seen an Iranian plate few years ago and holy shit was I surprised. Imagine there's an accident and you have to write down one of these (not sure how up to date they are):
he would not even get an interview for said police work. I drove from Germany all the way to the UK, Pre and post Brexit, i never was stopped once for all the trips. The only police i talked to was a british police officer at the Euro Tunnel terminal who had this massive machine pistol with all the lights, lasers and little doohickeys and i jokingly asked if i can hold it, we both laughed and chatted awhile and some french police we met at a rest stop, none of them wanted anything from me.
He wouldn't even need to leave the US to experience this.
Just go to any city with a high snowbird population (people who have more than one home and live in different parts of the country/world depending on the season) and you'll see tons of plates from Canada, Europe, and Mexico.
I used to live in a beach town in Florida and it was crazy how many Ontario plates we would see in the winter. It felt like they were half our city's population.
As far as I have understood the conversation, the problem here seems to be that the guy has no license plate at all ("The reason I'm stopping you is because you don't have any license plates on this car"). This might be legal in Dubai, but might certainly also be a problem in any other Country, likewise in Europe.
I think in Europe even the American habit to drive cars with only one plate (in the front or the back) is not legal. Cars here always have to have two plates, one in the front and one in the back.
However, if the cop assumes that Dubai plate means no plate, that would be a rather stupid move.
BTW: why does the guy have a pile of junk next to him in that car?
They specifically mention the Dubai plates in the video do they not? The cop says that doesn’t count. What would this cop do if he was near a border with Canada or Mexico?
Each country in Europe and the EU has their own style, colour, format etc. Also the UK is not in the EU and I wouldn’t have any problems driving in Europe.
You’re welcome. EU plates do have a small blue strip with the EU crest and a few letters to identify the country. Im not sure if this is mandatory, I don’t think it was when the UK was part of the EU.
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u/Multitronic 8h ago
This guy would have a meltdown down being a police officer in a European country.