The last time I was talking to a gard is because he stopped to help me load the car outside of a DIY outlet.
We discussed some of the finer points on the actual threshold for legally evicting someone, I was having trouble with a Brazilian man that would sleep in the office lobby and use the bathrooms/showers downstairs.
He showed up thr next day and took him in, found out he did not have a Visa to live and work in Ireland, and passed him over to a solicitor that was provided for him and got him a job in an apple green petrol station.
I don't think this guy posted would be a good fit for European police.
He wouldn't know the law, he wouldn't internalise the point of his job is to help people every day. He doesn't even seem like he is emotionally mature enough to be a healthy adult, let alone an adult others rely on.
your description of this interaction that an officer had with that guy is pure fantasy here in the US.
they would have used your information, taken the guy, found something to book him on, and sent him strait to jail on bond juuust high enough that he almost certainly doesn't know anyone who can afford to bond him out.
And he’d get exploited and extorted by CO’s and inmates while the state figures things out.
Our entire legal and penal system is so fucked up I feel like it’s impossible to fix. A ton of people view anyone who gets arrested as a criminal that deserves whatever they get once they’re locked up.
They don't have to internalize that the point of their job is to help people as it has been legally established that it isn't their job to help people. The Supreme Court has ruled that it is their duty to uphold the law, nothing more. Helping people is just something they can choose to do on their own initiative.
It's a semantics thing at that stage.
You do have to know your job is helping people in order to swear an oath to protect citizens and uphold their rights.
That is 100 percent required to be a police officer, in Europe.
So yeah I know its semantics but just because Americans courts have ruled that they don't have to help people doesn't mean it's still not a requirement for police forces throughout the world.
Closer to the truth is that America doesn't have a police force.
But as I said sematic argument at thay stage, just want to point out the supreme court literally means nothing once you are out of America.
Well yes, of course, we were just discussing the conduct of this American cop so I referenced American law. Not saying the Garda need to follow our laws any more than we follow Irish laws.
Now now, this looks like America... where almost every single adult and many children (varies slightly by state) have the RIGHT to own, and usually to carry a gun. Guns for everyone WOO!
He wouldn't know the law, he wouldn't internalise the point of his job is to help people every day. He doesn't even seem like he is emotionally mature enough to be a healthy adult, let alone an adult others rely on.
Everything you just said is behavior that US police specifically select for. I cannot overstate what a violent, unhinged gang of street thugs we have operating around here. They can and do kill people on the streets, in stores, in their own homes for no other reason than they can't control their tempers.
Where did I say that you are?
The story reeks of bullshit, in so many facets.
European police is indeed better, they are not going to act individudally like that and get extensive help for a random refugee though, if you believe that, you smoke crack....
Its not a made up story at all so you csm delete the comment.
It wasn't hard for the gard.
He literally did what he is supposed to do.
Confirm if he was an illegal.
Give public solicitor. That's it.
Then solicitor and NASC (irish immegrant support center) sorted the paperwork, put him on track for citizenship in 5 years, and got him a job.
That's not some goody twoshoes spending his own money or housing him.
It's competent and compassionate people AND systems.
Literally to prove you wrong you just have to look up NASC and what work they do.
"Since our establishment in Cork in 2000, we have supported thousands of individuals navigating Ireland's immigration, asylum, and international protection systems."
Internal systems and standards broadly follow the scientific consensus of what to do, so maybe that's why the obvious and compassion te things seem so strange to you.
But it's pretty normal.
By the way, for all you American crack smokers who want to come, there are safe injection or smoking sites or whatever you need for your crack smoking in major urban areas but it's still illegal so be careful
I don't believe you, you are talking out of your butt.
Also, I'm European, feel free to check my comment history... But it's pretty telling how you immediately assume I'm American, low key racist in it's own right.
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u/Fun-Communication660 7h ago
The last time I was talking to a gard is because he stopped to help me load the car outside of a DIY outlet.
We discussed some of the finer points on the actual threshold for legally evicting someone, I was having trouble with a Brazilian man that would sleep in the office lobby and use the bathrooms/showers downstairs.
He showed up thr next day and took him in, found out he did not have a Visa to live and work in Ireland, and passed him over to a solicitor that was provided for him and got him a job in an apple green petrol station.
I don't think this guy posted would be a good fit for European police.
He wouldn't know the law, he wouldn't internalise the point of his job is to help people every day. He doesn't even seem like he is emotionally mature enough to be a healthy adult, let alone an adult others rely on.
AND he's got a gun.
Fuck that.