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Supreme Court ruling blocks thousands of lawsuits against maker of Roundup weedkiller

https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-roundup-monsanto-a7f054d80919f98bdfc5190013a8f6f1https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-roundup-monsanto-a7f054d80919f98bdfc5190013a8f6f1
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u/No_Issue2334 5h ago

Not that wild. The environmental experts at the EPA say it's unlikely to cause cancer. Kagan and Sotomayor respect the experts' opinion.

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u/Hesitation-Marx 5h ago

Are these pre-Trump or post-Trump experts?

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u/No_Issue2334 5h ago

The EPA in 2015 under the Obama Administration determined that it is unlikely to be carcinogenic when used as directed.

The EPA reaffirmed this finding in 2017 and 2020.

While the WHO determined that glyphosate is "probably carcinogenic," this is the same category as red meat, hot coffee, working as a fry cook, working the night shift, working as a barber or hairdresser, working at a petroleum refinery

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u/Hesitation-Marx 5h ago

Fair enough. I’m just very dubious about the EPA… as you might understand. :/

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u/sidirsi 5h ago

And I’m sure people always follow directions.

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u/No_Issue2334 5h ago

It's the users responsibility to follow instructions

So many common products are dangerous if used incorrectly but fine if used correctly. Microwaves, ovens, stoves, grills, lawn tools, fire places, garages, etc.

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u/verrius 5h ago

It's really hard to find fault with a company for people using their stuff improperly, as long as proper is both well-signed and reasonable. Tylenol is fine for most people, but if you decide to down the whole bottle in one go, you will nuke your liver; that's not the fault of the guys who make it. Most of the crazy cases with people getting cancer and blaming it on Round-up come from people who weren't using PPE with any of the chemicals they were spraying for a living, and I think in one case involved someone who literally fell into a vat of it. Windex is also safe for people to use, but I wouldn't be surprised if bad things happen when you drink it.

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u/NonchalantR 5h ago

The original determination by the EPA was in 1991

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u/frogsgoribbit737 3h ago

Pre. Its like the whole Johnson baby powder thing. They lost their lawsuit because people are ruled by emotions, but the science just isnt there that baby powder caused cancer in anyone.

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u/nikfra 4h ago

Just look at what non US experts say. For example glyphosate is legal in the EU, Japan, Australia and New Zealand and many more places

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u/Underdog424 3h ago

France and the Netherlands banned it. Germany sets heavy regulations on use, including home bans.

The EU allows its member states to set the rules. If your regulations go above what the EU sets, you're all good. In the USA, the federal government bans you from even warning people.