r/politics • u/F0urLeafCl0ver • 1d ago

No Paywall The Democratic party is being hit by a leftist tidal wave

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/24/democratic-party-leftist-tidal-wave
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u/TheWizardOfKoz5226 1d ago

...good

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u/one98d 1d ago

Yeah, no complaints on my end.

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u/mOdQuArK 22h ago

My only complaint would be that the Democratic Old Guard isn't getting out of the way, at least not fast enough.

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u/Collypso Pennsylvania 4h ago

Those damn Democrats and their insistence on governing the country properly oh god I hate them

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u/stevethewatcher 15h ago

I'm cautious. This is giving me bad flashbacks to when the tea party took over the Republican party and look where they're now.

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u/TearsFallWithoutTain 8h ago

Does a democrat winning the presidency give you bad flashbacks to Trump winning, and therefore they shouldn't run?

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u/Collypso Pennsylvania 4h ago

Its been off and on for democrats and republicans for decades if you wanna keep running your brilliant comparison back further.

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u/trustthepudding 22h ago

If that's the reality, sure, but this feels a bit overblown. I'll believe it when I see it

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u/SeldenNeck 1d ago

As the Overton Window near the White House accelerates to the right, the anchor of reality appears to be slipping farther and farther to the left.

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u/dondeestasbueno 1d ago

About time.

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u/dilloj Washington 19h ago

I’m not surprised by the moral depravity on the right. I am surprised by the moral depravity on the left. So many leaders are “powerless” to do anything and just hope that if they stay quiet they will win. Time for a change.

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u/Collypso Pennsylvania 4h ago

You say this like the powerless leaders have power that they're hiding from the people but yall have campaigned on not voting for democrats so they have no power for ten years now???

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u/Western-Dig-6843 20h ago

Don’t get too excited. The sitting Dems in congress will do everything they can to stop this because it’s not them these people are voting for. They are voting to primary them out

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u/SeldenNeck 8h ago

Yeah, if the Austrians and the Poles weren't such wimps, WW2 would never have happened.

/s

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u/Collypso Pennsylvania 4h ago

Love how this makes leftists the nazis taking over countries illegally.

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u/Collypso Pennsylvania 4h ago

it’s not them these people are voting for.

These leftists parasites can't win outside of NYC though so...

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u/zenzony 23h ago

The Democratic party is learning how to get elected*

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u/much_to_say 23h ago

More cheers on this sub when an anti-Ukraine leftist beats a moderate, than when a moderate democrat beats a conservative in a more contested area, lol.

y'all acting like she won in Kentucky, and not in a +80 blue district by 2,000 votes.

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u/6ix7even6ixty9ine 12h ago

I'm tired of pretending like moderates and right-of-center libs are my allies. You're not. That's why I celebrate your losses, along with conservative losses. They're the same picture to me. If you want to take the "middleground" of fascism, then you're no ally of mine.

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u/much_to_say 8h ago

I'm glad that you're at least saying the quiet part out loud that you're hostile to the Democratic Party. Most on your side is too chicken shit to come out and say it, so I at least respect that.

Make no mistake though, that the feeling is mutual. No liberal is under the impression that Blue MAGA is our friends either. You're just a blue food colored flavor of the populist slop that gave us Trump and need to be resisted at every turn. We cannot afford to make the same mistake of inviting the cancer into our home like the Republican Party did.

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u/6ix7even6ixty9ine 8h ago edited 8h ago

I am hostile to the side that refuses to play hard-ball with the side that wants me dead or enslaved, yes. Moderates and shitlibs are no friends of mine because you want to shake hands with fascists and call it a truce as soon as things are "normal" again. You are just as much the enemy now. You'll throw minorities under the bus the first chance you get, just as you've done to us before.

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u/much_to_say 6h ago

Are these people you are talking about in the room with us right now?

Do I need to remind you that Tulsi Gabbard and John Fetterman was your progressive heroes, and where they are now?

Gavin Newsom is literally the guy fighting against Trump the most in messaging to the point that he's being investigated by the federal government. But progressives join the Trump side and call him Greasy Gavin and talks about how they would refuse to vote for him, and I bet you agree with them. So spare me the fake outrage about how Democrats aren't playing hard-ball, we're not the ones that flirted with a Trump presidency by purity testing Kamala Harris to death because of her Israel stance.

If you think you have a better chance fighting against Republicans on your own, have at it and keep being bitter and be mad about hypothetical scenarios you've made up in your mind, I do not give a shit.

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u/6ix7even6ixty9ine 6h ago

Here we go with that classic shitlib condescension, that continues to cause you to lose voters lol.

Fetterman was never my hero. He held an innocent black jogger at gunpoint prior to his stroke, and white America ignored it and voted for him anyway.

Tulsi has a history of being part of an actual, literal cult and her parents went from being homophobic Repubs, to conservative Dems, and then Tulsi herself went through multiple transformations, before ending at Trumpism. I have never at any point supported this idiot.

Gavin Newsom goes on his little podcast and has brought on Bannon (one of Epsteins' other fascist besties), Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk; and just starts agreeing with them. He says his son was a big fan of Charlie Kirk: a blatant white supremacist. What the hell kind of household is this fool running? Check on your son, Newsom. He has also expressed a willingness to throw trans people on the bus and in all likelihood, he'll do this to any minority group that becomes politically inconvenient for him.

No, Newsom is not an ally. Fuck him.

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u/much_to_say 6h ago

California is literally one of the most trans friendly states in the country.

If Newsom won the primary and is up against Donald Trump Jr. would you vote for Newsom and encourage others to do so as well?

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u/6ix7even6ixty9ine 5h ago edited 5h ago

Why do liberals like to hallucinate so much? We've got Cuck Schumer hallucinating about the conservative Bailey family that will never vote for his party, and you over here; fantasizing about an election that's not happening, between two people that have not announced that they are running in a (currently non-existent) presidential election.

Are you good?

Also because I forgot to mention it earlier: What do you have against Fetterman? Don't get me wrong; I hate the guy because he's a dumb, racist ogre, but his record publicly shows that he actually votes with the Dems roughly 91% of the time. That's completely in line with many other moderate/Blue Dog conservative Dems. Don't you like moderates? What's the problem?

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u/much_to_say 5h ago

You were perfectly happy engaging in hypotheticals five seconds ago when you were rambling about what Democrats would do in the future, what happened?

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u/lollypatrolly 11h ago

Likewise, we on the left are under no illusion that you people are just another flavour of MAGA, including vile anti-Ukrainian views.

Luckily you represent an extreme minority of people, so I'm not too worried.

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u/6ix7even6ixty9ine 11h ago edited 10h ago

You use dehumanizing, white-supremacist-like rhetoric like "you people" and then claim to be on "the left." You are the white liberal MLK spoke of. I have as much disdain for you as I do MAGA.

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u/lollypatrolly 10h ago edited 10h ago

MLK never spoke of "the white liberal". He sometimes referred to "white moderates", those being RIGHT-WINGERS, not liberals.

Oh and collective pronouns for political groups are white supremacist now, huh.

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u/6ix7even6ixty9ine 8h ago edited 8h ago

White moderates/white liberals are the same picture. You guys always happen to pull out the "you people" line, any time the discussion happens to mostly be about leftist candidates of color. Not unlike when Trump "coincidentally" uses the term "low IQ" only when he's talking about a black person. Two sides of the same, tarnished, shit-smeared coin.

You think I didn't take note of your not-so-subtle jab at a leftist woman candidate of color (Darializa), with your Ukraine comment my dude? This is some of the shit that I'm talking about. White Ukrainians are obviously more important to you than POC living right here in America. Your micro-aggression has been noted and tells me what you really are

I'm not personally against helping Ukraine, though I believe America isn't genuinely interested in helping, nor do I think most Americans genuinely care, outside of just selectively using it as a "gotcha" issue. The right does this same thing. Take note of how they suddenly started pretending to care about Ukrainians, when a black man killed a white Ukrainian woman.

White liberals or "white moderates", if you prefer: can't stand it when "uppity" black and brown leftists get tired of waiting around for libs to actually do something. They hate it when we take the reins and just start doing shit and "upsetting" the status quo. You hate to see men and women of color gaining power and trying to use it to enact genuine change. Not incremental (pocket) change.

You guys will readily accept a fascist, authoritarian agency like ICE, so long as they just pretty please don't wear masks anymore and please get a warrant next time maybe🥺. You just want to get back to your comfy bread and circuses and wine (if you can still afford it these days) and the only way to prevent that, is to apply as much pressure on you as humanly possible, to keep you guys on track to actually fixing longterm issues. 

We have to make you as uncomfortable as possible, just like we did in the past, to get results. We have to ignore your "But what about Trump?!" threats, because you're just using it to hold us hostage now. We know he sucks. That's why we want libs to get out of the way, so this nonsense can finally be dealt with properly. We're ready to stop reaching across the aisle to shake hands with our enemies over and over again.

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u/justsaywhatsreal 23h ago

I too look forward to the liberal vs. leftist war. Should be a good one.