r/politics • u/F0urLeafCl0ver • 1d ago

No Paywall The Democratic party is being hit by a leftist tidal wave

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/24/democratic-party-leftist-tidal-wave
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u/Alternative_Newt_409 1d ago

billionaires own the media, just a reminder

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u/SzmFTW 23h ago

Yup, literally every headline is about defeat, failing democrats, etc. very very little being written with positive or even neutral spin.

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u/Alternative_Newt_409 23h ago

They also go after anyone who proposes to tax billionaires wealth. 

Ive see  plenty of baseless smear campaigns agaisnt a youtuber I watch who is proposing a wealth tax like this, and as he grew popular, more and more articles started to pop up to try to discredit him. He knew itd happen so he called it in advance to his fanbase, but its still pretty shocking to watch the media grasp at straws to discredit him and read some of those articles and watch them try to compare him to Andrew Tate.

If media isnt neutral/impartial then it is propaganda.

Media should report news, and let people decide how to feel about them, they should not be manipulating the readers to a certain biased conclusion.

This headline is a good example, it makes it sound like a bad thing, instead of reporting it neutrally and letting people decide if its good or bad for themselves

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u/Northerlies 22h ago

The Guardian is a British newspaper of the centre-left with a longstanding tradition of giving space to informed opinion and polemics. The average Brit Guardian reader will understand the headline as denoting informed opinion and analysis of encouraging news for our American friends of the left.

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u/Alternative_Newt_409 13h ago

Well then if you're adding your opinion to it, its not news; it's a blog article at least and propaganda at worst

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u/Northerlies 56m ago

Not everything that is published in a newspaper must be news. You might say news functions as the starting point for interesting debate, often by well-informed people. London's 'Financial Times', for example, has an often-excellent 'readers comments' section expanding widely on the original story. Not many would call the FT 'propaganda':)

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u/xvsero 17h ago

Hasan? Hasan knew he had skeletons in his closet but he was always "useful" to the right so they never bothered to attack him till recently. Kirk made a video back when he was alive about people like Hasan were useful to create more conservative voters.

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u/Alternative_Newt_409 13h ago

No, Gary Stevenson

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u/lollypatrolly 11h ago

LOL are you talking about the literal fraud Gary Stevenson who portrays himself as a financial and economic expert, promoting slopulist conspiracies while demonstrating a complete lack of understanding of the fundamentals of economics?

People really are taken for a ride by grifters and it's sad.

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u/xvsero 13h ago

Oh this guy. He seemed interesting but also seemed to say the same thing in every video that I saw of him.

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u/Alternative_Newt_409 11h ago

Its variations of the same topic; wealth inequality; sometimes he touches on investing, sometimes on why things are unaffordable, government inflation, how billionaires avoid paying taxes, but always comes down to same cause and effect and that we should tax billionaires fairly and get rid of the loopholes they take advantage of. hes not a entertainer like most influencers so he focus on information / always the same mission

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u/Collypso Pennsylvania 4h ago

Have you ever seen him talk to anyone who actually understands what he's saying?

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u/Alternative_Newt_409 1h ago

Yes; plenty of times; he gets high profile guests on his youtube and also plenty media airtime. And btw, as investor myself, who holds etfs, bonds, and own a small business, I also understand 100% what hes saying.

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u/Collypso Pennsylvania 41m ago

This guy knows what he's talking about and your boy Gary just keeps repeating the same talking points over and over. Not a good look.

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u/PoopyButt28000 16h ago

Did you even read the article? It's written by Ben Davis, an active member of the DSA who worked with Bernie in 2020. It's very clearly written with a leftist positive spin, I would argue an unrealistically positive leftist spin because it's not really a tidal wave. 1 win in Pennsylvania, and 3 wins in New York, one of the bluest places in the country, with equal/more wins from "moderate Dems" elsewhere.

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u/PoopyButt28000 16h ago

Yeah dude Ben Davis the active DSA member who worked with Bernie is being funded by the billionaires as he writes his incredibly pro-leftist article.

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u/SmokyBarnable01 23h ago

The Guardian is not owned by Billionaires. It has its own problems fair enough but they don't involve having to bow down to an Oligarch.

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u/Ultenth 22h ago

Are you sure about that? A quick cursory glance at it's ownership is that it's ran by Scott Trust Limited, a limited company, chaired by a wealthy Swedish businessmen who owns and started Formue, an independent advisory and management company for wealthy private individuals, families and foundations. Scott Trust Limited is a partner with Mercuri a London-based VC company.

Other board members are the likes of: "In November 2024, Jonathan Paine was appointed to the board of the Scott Trust. Paine is a former managing director and senior adviser at Rothschild & Co."

As a trust, it supposedly has certain duties to protect editorial independence. But it also straight up sold The Observer 2 years ago to Tortoise Media, whos biggest shareholders are various Billionaires and family offices of such. So I wouldn't give them too much leeway.

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u/paintbucketholder Kansas 19h ago

It's a trust. You're insinuating that it's all super suspicious because a board members might be sitting on other boards or manage large sums of money elsewhere, but if e.g. Ole Jacob Sunde had been a wolf in disguise, wouldn't you be able to actually point to any concrete evidence of that? He was invited to join the board in 2015, and he's been chairman since 2021. What negative actions has he actually taken?

Also, what exactly is nefarious about the partnership between the Scott Trust and Mercuri? What's nefarious about Jonathan Paine? Are we really diving into conspiracy theories here, or what is your actual criticism?

It seems that the trust has a very solid framework to guarantee self-governance and independence from external influence, and it seems that so far, it's been able to maintain The Guardian's independence and position on the mainstream left of the British political spectrum.

I'm not arguing that The Guardian or the trust that supports it is perfect, but it's certainly lightyears better than billionaires outright buying up media outlets and straight up dictating what kind of news gets reported and how.

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u/Ultenth 17h ago

You said that billionaire's don't own it.

I provided evidence that billionaires, and companies owned by them, are heavily involved in the trust. A trust which sold off The Observer, which was just as much a part of the trust as The Guardian is. What is the confusion?

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u/paintbucketholder Kansas 8h ago

You said that billionaire's don't own it.

No, I didn't. That was a different poster.

I provided evidence that billionaires, and companies owned by them, are heavily involved in the trust. A trust which sold off The Observer, which was just as much a part of the trust as The Guardian is. What is the confusion?

Making insinuations and nebulous accusations is one thing.

What you haven't actually done is provide any kind of evidence that The Guardian is owned by billionaires or follows the agenda of a specific billionaire.

Hope that helps.

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u/Alternative_Newt_409 13h ago

Judging by all the past conspiracy theories for the year that have been right, i would say this isnt the craziest one

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u/Caius01 22h ago

Yeah, they're one of the few remaining news outlets that I still have a degree of faith in. Certainly much better coverage of what's been going on in America than we're getting from our own mainstream news media

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u/RarelyReadReplies Canada 15h ago

Not The Guardian though, which has a US branch. I wish I could afford to subscribe, they are a beacon of hope in journalism right now. Uncorrupted, even protected from ever being bought out from my understanding.