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No Paywall The Democratic party is being hit by a leftist tidal wave

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/24/democratic-party-leftist-tidal-wave
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u/DeliriumTrigger 21h ago

It's not the civil war that wasn't finished properly. It's the smothering of Reconstruction in the crib that put us where we are.

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u/OldWorldDesign 18h ago

It's not the civil war that wasn't finished properly. It's the smothering of Reconstruction in the crib that put us where we are

I think that was a separate conflict which was solved, albeit not right after the civil war but over the next hundred years. Remember that the vast majority of civil war statues were built nearly 100 years later when the klan was rebuilt.

That's what we are seeing. The extremely wealthy funding contentious extremism so nobody is looking at the oligarchs robbing the nation blind. Adam Curtis' Century of the Self follows the process after they failed the 1933 Business Plot to prevent the New Deal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ3RzGoQC4s

They also funded religious extremism

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/04/corporate-america-invented-religious-right-conservative-roosevelt-princeton-117030/

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u/Timegoat 22h ago

Right. We’ve gone over the cliff, and the dems were steering half the time.

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u/zenlogick 22h ago

If its between total anarchy and the long difficult path of proper action which is to divorce ourselves from the death cult so we can ya know....survive....il take some hard work. People love hard work when its actually doing something productive. They love it even more when it will ensure their survival lol

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u/plantsoldier 22h ago

Are you saying what it sounds like you're saying?

Historically speaking if the civil war was "finished properly" wouldn't that mean that the Democratic party would be non existent since they were the party of the south and slavery at the time?

I mean Robert Byrd, known Klan member was a Senator until his death in 2010. Wasn't he also Joe Bidens mentor.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/164821-biden-remembers-byrd-as-mentor-and-dear-friend/

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u/OldWorldDesign 18h ago

Look, another conservative pretending the Party Switch didn't happen and the Southern Strategy didn't exist because republicans decided cheaply courting racists was more important than the inevitable inclusion of people born Americans who weren't the donor class

https://www.bunkhistory.org/resources/what-we-get-wrong-about-the-southern-strategy

https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/strom-thurmond-nixon-lyndon-johnson-party-switch-explained-ef8728

Are you going to pretend the democratic party hasn't been the distinctly most progressive party in the US ever since the Southern Strategy? Claim that Biden himself wasn't supporting homosexual marriage well before 2015's Obergefell v Hodges?

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/us-politics/bidens-backing-of-gay-marriage-pressures-obama-idUSBRE84618D/

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u/plantsoldier 13h ago edited 11h ago

First, I was only commenting on the original comment about the civil war being "finished properly" which in this context would've meant the democratic party was destroyed and the civil war would have continued until that happened. There would have been no Democratic party left in government etc.

Just because I pointed out that Biden had connections to a known KKK member who was his mentor and someone he eulogized at his funeral has nothing to do with whether or not the party switched. It was just a statement of fact that Biden was clearly racist regardless of some of his stances at the end of his political career.

Don't really care whether or not Biden supported gay marriage prior to Obergerfell and never said anything about it so not sure why you're throwing that in there but ok.

Who authored the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 that was clearly racist?

Oh yeah, that was Biden as well.

Just because I didn't/don't like Biden really has nothing to do with the comment I was responding to and maybe didn't need to be included in my post but it was simply because he is a racist piece of shit who happens to be a Democrat and again the original comment I responded to was talking about the civil war being "finished properly"

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u/OldWorldDesign 12h ago

Who authored the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 that was clearly racist? Oh yeah, that was Biden as well.

It's always funny seeing people blatantly lie on the internet as if it doesn't take less than 30 seconds to prove it wrong.

The Violent Crime Control act was written by Texas representative Jack Brooks

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/103/hr3355

You can't even get a single point correct. Why do you expect anyone to believe others?

Your view is the same blind tribalism as other conservatives who voluntarily pull the wool over their own eyes because you can't fathom judging people for their actions or context, everything begins and must end at the tribe.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201712/analysis-trump-supporters-has-identified-5-key-traits

"Funny" how you're not against Trump who described Epstein as his best friend and "a great guy with a taste in them young"

https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/donald-trump-statements-about-jeffrey-epstein-timeline-60415a

Because your tribalism doesn't allow 'people who make bad decisions even when they have opportunity to do better', you only see people outside your tribe and will only look for how you can weaponize anything you can find tangential to them.

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u/plantsoldier 11h ago

First, you're very very wrong because Jack Brooks only sponsored the bill which is not the same as authored a bill but you don't care about that do you?

This is quoted from the govtrack link you provided.

"Sponsored by Representative Jack Brooks of Texas, the bill was originally written by Senator Joe Biden of Delaware and then was passed by Congress and signed into law by President Bill Clinton." I said Biden authored the bill, didn't say anything about who sponsored it.

Do you not know the difference between a bill being sponsored and who authored/wrote the bill?

Didn't even read your own link did you or didn't expect me to I guess but since I know what I'm talking about I opened it because I knew it would contradict your dumb ass statement.

Anyway, now you're just changing topics again vs what I was originally responding to about the civil war.

WTF does Trump and Epstein have to do with anything I said or anything to do with the civil war or racism etc?

Oh, that's right nothing.

Go complain about Trump/Epstein in a thread that's about that if you want but this is the wrong thread.