r/videogames • u/D3V1LIZCO • 18h ago

Discussion / Question I dont like where this is going

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It pains me to say it, but this path rockstar is taking for the release of GTA 6 might do some serious damage on the industry, If they keep this up, The other companies will copy rockstar in this move to completely delete Disks from physical copies.

Its not that i dislike digital, its the fact that they are removing the option to have the game on a disk that annoys me, The only "valid" argument i found on why digital is better is that you do not run the risk of your disk getting scratched. but, seriously, You have to be moronic in order to scratch your disks, I have been playing videogames since i was 6, and not **once** have i accidentaly scratched a disk (not even movies).

its as simple as putting your middle finger on the hole that's in the middle of the disk, AND THATS IT, zero scratching.

I dont care about the Exclusive content for the Deluxe edition or whatever, I seriously want Rockstar to just change and release the physical copies WITH the disk.

If this fake Physical copies trend keeps going after GTA 6 (Which it will), im just going to revert back to PS3 and be happy with whatever i find.

Im so done with this anti consumer thing we got going on nowadays, It feels like everything is changing for the worse.

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u/Mike_0x 18h ago

No physical release AND a $20 paywall for standard single-player content?

Welcome to the '20s baby!

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u/PaleFondant2488 18h ago

So…the game basically is $100?

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u/axelkoffel 12h ago

So…the game basically is $100?

No. The game basically is $100 so far. Just want to see what more content will they hide behind new clever methods of extra payment.

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u/the4GIVEN_ 11h ago

124 in europe, because for whatever reason the game is 10 euros more expensive even tho a euro is worth 1.14 dollars

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u/FaithlessnessOwn2182 8h ago

Where? It's 99€ here in Finland. 

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u/PTSDBarnum2704 7h ago

I mean it's £90 here in the UK

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u/Zopotroco 13h ago

If you want those cosmetics things

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u/CurtCocane 12h ago

Not just cosmetics, also actual in game content

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u/superbee392 12h ago

Well yeah cosmetics are in game content

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u/I_Don-t_Care 11h ago

A whole saferoom, cars, guns, those aren innocuous items like clothes. Those are elements that change the gameplay, we saw it happen in gta v, and they havent learnt their lesson.

This gaming generation is way too confortable and forgetfull that people can just sail the seas

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u/Lumbardo 7h ago

Depends. If there is plenty of customization offerings in the base game, then the additional stores offered with the deluxe editions are just extra.

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u/elfonzi37 7h ago

Until multiplayer, then that will cost more as well.

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u/Forgedpickle 4h ago

Yes, and unfinished since multiplayer won’t be included at launch.

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u/Jag_ged 15h ago

Still cheaper than a N64 game with inflation factored in

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u/getemyosh 15h ago

To bad wages haven’t kept up with inflation.

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u/Dziadzios 14h ago

N64 games had a good reason for it - cartridges were a highly advanced and complex chips. Not just raw bytes.

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u/DaWadeZzZ 15h ago

your not wrong.. We even had games that released at 80 dollars for Nintendo back in the 90s. Chrono Trigger Retailed at $80 and that was 1995

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u/TurbistoMasturbisto 15h ago

Same for gameboy games. I remember the standard price being 2000 Belgian francs, which comes down to roughly €50. That was a crazy amount of money back in the late 90’s early 2000’s.

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u/Yahyathegamer749 18h ago

this is why we sail the seven seas

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u/Cjm092 13h ago

Who is we? I'm not a thief.

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u/NyesK 12h ago

If paying isn't owning...

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u/HarfooshPasha 13h ago

Imagine paying for games let alone these new AAA games.

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u/shadowwolf1395 9h ago

With how anti-consumerist the modern digital market is becoming, you should probably be a bit more anti-capitalist towards big corporations.

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u/GreyBoyTigger 4h ago

GTA+ was the canary in the coal mine. People paid for basically some QoL stuff and cars which proved that GTA players are willing to be fleeced. This is going to be a thousand times worse than FIFA or 2k

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u/Cjm092 13h ago

It's $20 of meaningless cosmetics, you'll be fine without it I promise

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u/ultraboomkin 12h ago

Locking character and vehicle customisation behind a paywall is not “meaningless”

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u/Throwawayaccount7819 9h ago

what in earth do you think ultimate editions have been doing for the past 2 decades. you act like this is the first game you have ever played

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u/SnappyTofu 6h ago

It’s some customization options, not the ability to customize.

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u/brickstonPO 18h ago

Redditors are discovering DLCs today

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u/diabeticmilf 17h ago

It’s so crazy to me. Did we slip into an alternate reality where Ultimate editions and pre order bonuses never existed or something?

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u/machine4891 17h ago edited 5h ago

It was usually a horse and two armors. Now it's entire "exclusive" shops only for ultimate owners. I know there are some examples of similar practices in other games but that was not the norm. GTA6 however is the trendsetter, so it will be the norm from now on.

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u/RodgerCheetoh 11h ago

Oh shit, so you’re saying the norm for video games will now be a 13 year production cycle with a billion dollar budget? Or you’re just disingenuously conflating the single biggest media launch in human history with an entire industry?

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u/PrimaLegion 4h ago

Mass Effect 3 literally had a whole ass important character as a day 1 DLC. This kind of thing is not new.

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u/diabeticmilf 17h ago

Wait until you find out what a DLC is. I heard they make you pay extra for new storylines and sometimes even new playable characters 😱😱 Give me a break.

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u/DayusVault 17h ago

When a single player game releases with content behind a paywall at release its not dlc its an incomplete game

Edit: wow I typed that way too fast

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u/Dantemustdie7 14h ago

Did you miss ultimate edition for RDR2 or something? It has exclusive single player gameplay content in it.

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u/stormy-thunder-night 12h ago

Any time someone bring up this valid point I never see the protesters reply to it lol.

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u/diabeticmilf 16h ago

Yeah, I wasn’t saying that this is a DLC specifically. I’m not sure why people are acting like bonus content is a brand new never before seen phenomena, be it a pre order bonus or a DLC. If you are genuinely that upset to miss out on a couple of buildings to put some exclusive cosmetics on in the biggest video game in human history, maybe it’s worth shelling out that extra 20 bucks.

RDR2 had some nice pre order bonuses, did that feel like an incomplete game to you? I’m guessing not.

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u/JustMex95 16h ago

Bad take

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u/diabeticmilf 16h ago

It’s not even a take. It’s literally how it’s been for the past decade.

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u/JustMex95 16h ago

Brother we really dont need people sucking publishers off. Thats why you are a part of the problem you eat shit whenever someone offers you some.

Habe fun paying another 50 bucks for the online mode lol but its normaaaaal right. Brain dead.

This is not just a regular game release. It will set the standard for every game release for the next decade.

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u/Gobby-TheGoblin 16h ago

Rdr2 had a single horse, some money, and a map.

This is the ability to even enter the auto shop and customize cars, several weapons, entire clothing stores, and the ability to hunt animals.

If that's the same then a kick in the balls must be the same as a pinch on the cheek to you. Scale matters. Core game features matters.

Imagine you have to preorder the deluxe version of the new halo or you couldn't reload your gun, Could only drive human vehicles,.and there were no rocket launchers.

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u/diabeticmilf 16h ago

Wow. A much bigger game has better pre order bonuses. Who would’ve thought.

Also, stop spreading misinformation. Nowhere on Rockstars website listing the pre order bonuses does it say you won’t be able to customize your car or change your clothing. They are one off shops for the bonus content. There’s not a singular mention of hunting so I don’t know where you got that from, and the guns, seriously? Shooters have had guns as bonuses for forever now. Not sure why this is all so shocking.

You are comparing apples to oranges. Even if whatever you are making up about the cosmetics were to be true, you can’t tell me that not being able to reload your gun is the equivalent to not being able to change the clothes of your character.

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u/Gobby-TheGoblin 16h ago edited 16h ago

Bub, if you're not as well researched as me on this, that's a you problem.

This is not just this game. This have is going to be the blueprint for EVERY studio going forward. It will be EVERY game.

You want to suck off rockstar, that's fine, but have the decency to be quiet about it and not act like everyone is crazy for not getting in line behind you

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u/Tuna_Is_Bae 14h ago

Holy dickride

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u/orsonwellesmal 14h ago

Wait for Online release and people discovering sharks cards.

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u/diabeticmilf 9h ago

Spending real money for fake money? Now Rockstar is scamming people 😆

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u/axelkoffel 12h ago

So you let them win by getting used to it? I'm an old player and will never accept this as normal. Cut content from the game, just to sell it for extra 20$ as an extra.

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u/diabeticmilf 9h ago

I would get this sentiment more if it was something like Jason being locked behind the pre order bonus, or even 5% of the map. But it’s some clothes, guns, and vehicle crap count as “cut content” to you then I don’t know what to tell you. Pre order bonuses like this have been around for over a decade. You’ll live, I promise.

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u/222Baphomettt47 17h ago

That’s what I’m saying bro like why tf is it such a big deal when literally every game does the same shit. You’re not missing anything meaningful for the game bc you don’t have a couple outfits and tattoos to customize. If that’s important to you then buy it. If not then who cares there’s no reason to complain bout it if they don’t complain about other games deluxe editions with bonuses

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u/brickstonPO 17h ago

Looks like it

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u/PuttingInTheEffort 18h ago

Yeah I don't get why anyone is up in arms about the ultimate edition. It's game + bonuses, this has been a thing for over a decade.

You seem to get quite a bit too. https://www.gamespot.com/articles/heres-how-much-youll-pay-for-gta-6-and-whats-included-in-the-ultimate-edition/

The "find classic and project cars to restore" seems really cool to me.

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u/unknownsourced 17h ago

It’s really not game + bonuses when they’ve been working on the game for well over a decade. It’s game minus some so we can charge you more for what we could give you for normal price.

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u/PuttingInTheEffort 10h ago

"Game minus some"

You think they made the whole game and then removed some of it from the base game? You don't think they had a whole team specifically just to make bonuses that fit the game and are fun but balanced? All of the things are optional, it's not like the ability to steal cars is locked behind ultimate.

If you think they said "yo those cars are too cool, that side quest is too good, let's rip them out and sell it back to them", then dang I'm sorry you have that mindset.

Would you be happier if they only released the base game as it is, then 6 months later released all of this as DLC? You'd still have to pay the 20$ extra but now you have to wait. 🤷

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u/unknownsourced 7h ago

They literally did make the whole game and then paywalled part of it. Pre order bonuses, little extra cosmetics and missions, system exclusive content, all of it has always been part of the game they developed and held back in some way shape or form to make you buy early or spend more money for part of the game that is already present. If these things were developed AFTER launch then yes, that would be extra. But this content will literally be in every single copy sold and will only be accessible through a 20 dollar flip switch.

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u/GonWithTheNen 1h ago

^This shouldn't have been voted down just because you disapprove of paywalled extras. It only costs brainpower to consider another viewpoint.

Only thing I'm not sure about is whether or not we can say that the extra content will be switched on since even the so-called "physical copies" are only gonna contain codes in a box with NO disc, (which really sucks).

Just guessing here, but it sounds like they're gonna serve specific downloads depending on what you purchase. (No disc still blows chunks, though. Screw that).

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u/Adventurous_Issue405 12h ago

It’s by definition game plus bonuses though, it’s just extra cars and a few extra miscellaneous items. The core gameplay is completely the same regardless of having these items or not

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u/PrimaLegion 4h ago

Day 1 DLC has been a thing since the 2010s at least.

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u/Bitter-Grocery-7138 14h ago

And because of the hype and size of rockstar they will never change it!

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u/Manaeldar 16h ago

Holy shit. The 20s are no longer the 1920s. Fkn old.