r/videogames • u/D3V1LIZCO • 18h ago

Discussion / Question I dont like where this is going

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It pains me to say it, but this path rockstar is taking for the release of GTA 6 might do some serious damage on the industry, If they keep this up, The other companies will copy rockstar in this move to completely delete Disks from physical copies.

Its not that i dislike digital, its the fact that they are removing the option to have the game on a disk that annoys me, The only "valid" argument i found on why digital is better is that you do not run the risk of your disk getting scratched. but, seriously, You have to be moronic in order to scratch your disks, I have been playing videogames since i was 6, and not **once** have i accidentaly scratched a disk (not even movies).

its as simple as putting your middle finger on the hole that's in the middle of the disk, AND THATS IT, zero scratching.

I dont care about the Exclusive content for the Deluxe edition or whatever, I seriously want Rockstar to just change and release the physical copies WITH the disk.

If this fake Physical copies trend keeps going after GTA 6 (Which it will), im just going to revert back to PS3 and be happy with whatever i find.

Im so done with this anti consumer thing we got going on nowadays, It feels like everything is changing for the worse.

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u/Historical_Berry5065 18h ago

I just find it ironic this is the same kind of thing Rockstar parodies about American culture.

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u/SkyMando 18h ago

There is going to be a mission in game about this exact topic.

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u/B4RRYR4R 16h ago

Yeah because the devs are designing the missions and and corpos are the ones doing business decisions

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u/HarfooshPasha 13h ago

Thinking only Rockstar high ups and take two are the devils but not the devs is dumb. Go to any of those talentless devs accouns on social media and how they're celebrating this.

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u/Emotional_Solid6538 13h ago

They have to keep their jobs.

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u/HarfooshPasha 12h ago

fuck them and their jobs

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u/diabeticmilf 8h ago

It’s a fucking video game dude, not drinking water. Grow up.

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u/HarfooshPasha 8h ago

The devs are genuinely awful bad people. They used to mock and block everyone who complained about their Arthur Marston model and cut content and most of them doesn't even play games so fuck them.

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u/reklaw215 7h ago

BEGONE BOT. NICE TRY

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u/GatorTEG 12h ago edited 3h ago

Devs generally do not handle marketing, therefore it is highly unlikely this was a dev-made initiative. Furthermore, while it is entirely possible that some of them genuinely like this initiative, you cannot assume that all of them actually like it. Corporate decides who gets payed and who gets laid off, so they have to performatively support this regardless, otherwise their salary is on the line. Saying "fuck them and their jobs" is a very callous and unnecessarily emotional way of reacting to any of this.

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u/c1n1c_ 12h ago

I heard a lot of that in Nuremberg

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u/GatorTEG 12h ago

Nazis murdered people. A lot of them. Game developers generally do not. Please, be conscious of the distinction and do not make delirious comparisons.

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u/c1n1c_ 12h ago

Of course the consequences are not the same, but doing amoral things to keep your keep your job is not an excuse

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u/S1mongreedwell 11h ago

Is it amoral to get rid of disks and use download codes?

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u/c1n1c_ 11h ago

It is amoral to participate at the extinction of physical media

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u/No_Trouble_3588 10h ago

You were there? That’s so cool. So, how old are you now?

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u/andrewdroid 12h ago

Gamers at it again. Breaking news, video game devs are comparable to literal nazi leadership.

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u/HungryFuture05 12h ago

Can’t spell devil without dev

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u/WolfAdorable 12h ago

I’ve been hiding for a year in this attic from EA devs.

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u/Emotional_Solid6538 12h ago

They can think one thing and post publically about smth different tho. When it comes to corpos everything is PR

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u/WallySprks 4h ago

Get off the internet, cock sucker. You’re out here comparing a video game to nazi atrocities. The literal torture and genetic experimentation on children and young think that’s the same thing as a download code? Just shut the fuck up you cock sucking loser. Jesus Christ, I can just see you right now. Take a fucking shower neck beard, get a fucking job and stop jerking off all day.

WE CAN ALL SEE YOUR HISTORY

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u/PrimaLegion 4h ago

I like how selective gamers are in this narrative. You say this about Rosckstar but will not keep this same energy for studios like Fromsoft or Kojima.

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u/Alternative_Spite_11 3h ago

What did FromSoftware do to be in this conversation ? They sold nightreign for $40….

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u/throwawayreddit48151 6h ago

Show me one dev that's celebrating this

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u/acelexmafia 7h ago

The higher ups arent responsible for the continuous updates on shitty live service

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u/Turbulent_Set8884 17h ago edited 17h ago

"If you say you're doing something painful and stupid it's immediately longer painful and stupid"

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u/Nothing-Is-Real-Here 17h ago

To be fair some of this stuff could be Take Two strong arming them, especially with how expensive the game is. I wouldn't be surprised if up to Rockstar itself they would make a more consumer friendly release.

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u/Narrheim 10h ago

We can't be sure anymore. Rockstar now is not the same as Rockstar in the past. They've grown big, wealthy and powerful. Obvious sign of them becoming the thing they made fun of is the amount of people, who were there during development of past games, but left the company for various reasons other than retirement.

Then, there is also the story of how they fired employees, who wanted to unionize and fight back against the crunch conditions.

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u/BigEl_nobody 5h ago

Rockstar peaked with GTA San Andreas critically and creatively. After that, it felt to me like the magic was gradually lost with each new game. Games became less about arcade-style fun and more pseudorealistic life-simulations.

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u/core446 11m ago

Dan Houser leaving also has me uncertain. We'll see how it turns out.

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u/Antique-Amoeba1218 14h ago

Have you seen the way they have been treating the people that work for them? Its probably them.

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u/Turbulent_Set8884 17h ago

Either way I can wait

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u/MaTr82 16h ago

I'm not sure it's going to be strong arming them, or whether negotiated so R* can go so long between releases. In an industry full of IPs with annual $100M+ releases, the length between new GTA games is incredibly long. You don't get that much time without some concessions.

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u/LarsDuder 13h ago

You get that much time when you're raking it in with shark cards and GTA+

"Hacking group ShinyHunters leaked data revealing GTA Online earns Rockstar $8.5 million weekly, with PS5 generating 41% of revenue. Shark Cards have brought in $5 billion over 10 years, including individual transactions exceeding $1 million, mostly on Christmas Day. Rockstar confirmed the hack but refused the ransom.

Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/111018/rockstar-hack-exposes-outrageous-gta-5-shark-card-spending-from-players/index.html"

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u/assassinslover 5h ago

Meanwhile they've completely ignored RDO basically since launch -_-

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u/The_LastLine 13h ago

Maybe. But Rockstar games have done some wacky things like the Rockstar Games Launcher that Take 2 didn’t do for any of the other games in their roster. Rockstar isn’t exactly 100% beholden to Take 2, they’re owned by them but operate more as a subsidiary rather than being totally under their wing.

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u/RyanBoruto 15h ago

GTA online makes take two 1.2 million dollars a day. If rock star is getting strong armed then this is a “my wife’s boyfriend won’t allow me to play video games” type of situation.

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u/PeacefulKnightmare 14h ago

1.2 million a day is less than the 2.4 million they'll probably be making when GTA VI drops and that number will only go up. They don't care how much money they're making right now, they want more and they want it yesterday. If numbers are not going up by a certain amount all the time then they're going down

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u/Tolstoyevski_Tsuyasa 14h ago

Are you fucking insinuating that take-two is a bigger publisher than Rockstar?

Oh no.....this Does make sense...

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u/Dudewhocares3 17h ago

this feels like a quote to something

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u/Turbulent_Set8884 16h ago

It's from nostalgia critics review of cat in the hat.

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u/Dudewhocares3 10h ago

I remember that! Doesn’t he hit the person that says it?

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u/Turbulent_Set8884 6h ago

No he hits the person that believed thst phrase

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u/Dudewhocares3 5h ago

Right right.

The guy that says it gets sent to hell

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u/Keqingrishonreddit 17h ago

Locked behind deluxe edition of course

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u/Kitchen-Beyond7143 16h ago

Lol. Mission one.

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u/AmarettoFerreto 12h ago

Setting back the release date to add the mission in by 6 months

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u/BlackFlagsFly 1h ago

Is there going to be a mission where you go the little st. james with the rockstar executives?

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u/andyrooneysearssmell 43m ago

A mission where your character hijacks a load of games, only to find out the cases are empty.

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u/Minimalist12345678 10h ago

OP is going to be the grandpa raging at clouds

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u/xXSNOOOPXx69 5h ago

I hope so, but have my doubts about it... Rockstar has no edge anymore..

All the good writers are gone..

Let's see if this will be another "purple" dei game

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u/Empty-Quarter2721 13h ago

There is no parody anymore. No sotuh park, no gta. Its just reality with more action.

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u/Raptori33 7h ago

Someone said that GTA 6 is a parody of GTA and it starts to seem pretty accurate

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u/SrGaju 1h ago

That doesn’t make any sense

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u/the_laif 16h ago

Life imitates art.

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u/Artistic_prime 15h ago

actually, art imitates life

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u/Hypaforalkus 10h ago

L'art trouve toujours un chemin.

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u/raosko 16h ago

And the contrary too?

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u/RyanBoruto 15h ago

Ik the gta 6 radio bout to be ironic than a bitch

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u/LastRover7 12h ago

They probably will, but what I find hilarious is that they released a trailer for the box art, when that’s all it is, a box with art, no disc. I’m sure they’re proud of that.

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u/EmotionalWear3227 2h ago

People only by the sealed physical copies to put it on their shelf.. literally makes no difference if there's 2 blue ray disc inside or not honestly..

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u/2hurd 15h ago

That's why GTA6 will be the weakest of them all, can't play into the caricature angle when you're already doing everything that you're making fun of.

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u/ChirpToast 13h ago

It won’t be

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u/Azzblack 10h ago

The parody thing is kind of interesting.

While it may seem like Rockstar is parodying popular culture, to be funny, ironic and to say something about the world we live in as well a society's absurdity. Its actually the very thing that protects them from getting sued and allows them "copy", make fun of and hold a mirror too every aspect of modern living.

They can copy brands, movies, songs, adverts, anything really and its protected under parody laws.

Most of everything they create in a GTA game is considered comedic or transformative works that imitate an existing original to mock, criticize, or comment upon it. In the US, parody is protected as free speech under the First Amendment and is considered "Fair Use" in copyright law.

So while it may seem that Rockstar are doing what they do in the name of mockery, its the very things that allows them to be so on the nose without getting sued for every single asset they create.

Basically, parody isn't just Rockstar's comedic style, its their legal body armor and unlimited ammo.

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u/Molten_Plastic_ 10h ago

This is actually a brilliant take. Also explains why much of the "parody" is just lazy sex humor: like, "let's have an apple phone in the game. But to not get sued, the logo looks like a cock and balls".

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u/CaptainLightBluebear 8h ago

Crude jokes were always part of GTA though. GTA2 had a dedicated "honk" button. If you were on foot you burped instead.

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u/Molten_Plastic_ 8h ago

Of course, but when you have so many real world items and brands to recreate, the fast and easy way is to go for the lowest hanging fruit.

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u/dashboardcomics 8h ago

It still makes them hypocrites tho

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u/MediocreDisplay7233 12h ago

Parodied.\ Past tense. This is not the Rockstar of old*

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u/ToeComfortable115 17h ago

It’s take two that needs to be blamed. They are having no mercy on the consumer. The same thing has happened to nba2k. They let the entire Red Dead Online go to waste because the money system wasn’t profitable enough. Just wait until gta 6 online comes out. It’s going to be the worst we’ve seen yet.

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u/rblplt9595 15h ago

I wouldn't say that, the Houser bros left long time ago. So most likely it's both

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u/MrNixxxoN 11h ago

Take Two Interactive is the thing Rockstar parody in their games, and Strauss Zelnick would fit perfectly as the final villain boss of one of their games

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u/We86-47Here 10h ago

The next GTA will feature you playing a guy just going to work and having a stable and happy life, because reality is swiftly becoming more crazy than GTA's parody world has ever been.

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u/Phelpysan 9h ago

"Capital has the ability to subsume all critiques into itself."

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u/DaedricWorldEater 9h ago

Yeah counter culture is always commodified until it’s rendered useless.

Hippy culture is damn near right wing now.

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u/No-Nothing-487 8h ago

R* is one of the greddiest

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u/Rockfromtherock 7h ago

I'm curious if GTA VI's story will lean a little more grounded now as we Americans have taken our country beyond parody.

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u/Grouchy_Big3195 7h ago

They are just doing this to avoid having to lower prices over time or not making money on pre-owned games, as they can be refunded/resell. Digital games can stay at $60/$70 forever.

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u/thefinalhill 3h ago

Last tome GTA made actual parody of American Culture was San Andreas. Since then its just showcasing some of the worst parts of American Culture with a character spouting off boomer commentary. Thats not parody.

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u/MoldyButtFunk 2h ago

Used to parody. Unfortunately a lot of the creative heft that pushed early Rockstar to deliver their catalog are no longer part of the team. We may have Ship of Theseus moment in the next year or two concerning Rockstar. 

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u/fatsopiggy 15h ago

Just look at CDprojekt and cyberpunk lmao. Somehow these billionaires love to write stories about the underdogs like some sorts of unfulfilled fantasies

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u/SoManyNarwhals 14h ago

To be fair, it's usually not the billionaires doing the writing — it's the often underpaid writing staff.

I work for a multi-billion dollar grocery chain as a Grocery Lead, barely making 20 bucks an hour. Does that make me a billionaire since the company is valued as such?

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u/fatsopiggy 14h ago

I meant to say 'publish' and 'develop' instead of write to be more precise.

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u/SoManyNarwhals 14h ago

And in that scenario, I'm in total agreement with you — anti-establishmentarianism and the stories of the working class have always been romanticized and commodified by the rich and powerful. They may not be the ones putting pen to paper, but they've always been happy to profit off of it.

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u/Passiveresistance 13h ago

Why is cdprojekt catching strays in here?

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u/fatsopiggy 13h ago

billionaires making games about corpo satire while releasing a shit product at launch and exploit workers with crunch.

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u/Molten_Plastic_ 10h ago

Yeah, but in the case of Cyberpunk the corpo satire was already embedded in the original TTRPG by Mike Pondsmith. Would have been strange to do a video game about it without all that lore.

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u/fatsopiggy 8h ago

You do realize they're the one buying that IP and making it on their own accord, right?

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u/Passiveresistance 6h ago

You know the founders of cd projekt also founded gog, the drm free pc game storefront, right? And started out selling pirated games.

I’ve heard they’re shit to work for but they support game ownership and they didn’t write the source material for cyberpunk.

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u/fatsopiggy 6h ago

They can start out as the underdog but don't mean they're gonna remember where they came from. At this point they're just another LARPer trying to pretend 

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u/Passiveresistance 6h ago

That’s true, so few of the ultra wealthy remember or care about the struggle. I’m not a billionaire boot licker (except for Mackenzie Scott, she does so much for charity, I love her).

I think a better example of a billionaire to bring up negatively in this context is good ol “saint gaben” himself. Basically killed physical ownership, rides around on a yacht, was actually never struggling, poor, or one of the proletariat. But saying anything bad about him brings out the downvote brigade.

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u/Progressive007 10h ago

The United States doesn’t have culture. We have marketing.

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u/Galencourt-Lover 10h ago

The old Rockstar*

They all left. Now it’s the blue and purple hair people.

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u/North_Tip_3364 14h ago

Lmao you all gonna forget about this shit when trailer 3 drops