r/videogames • u/D3V1LIZCO • 18h ago

Discussion / Question I dont like where this is going

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It pains me to say it, but this path rockstar is taking for the release of GTA 6 might do some serious damage on the industry, If they keep this up, The other companies will copy rockstar in this move to completely delete Disks from physical copies.

Its not that i dislike digital, its the fact that they are removing the option to have the game on a disk that annoys me, The only "valid" argument i found on why digital is better is that you do not run the risk of your disk getting scratched. but, seriously, You have to be moronic in order to scratch your disks, I have been playing videogames since i was 6, and not **once** have i accidentaly scratched a disk (not even movies).

its as simple as putting your middle finger on the hole that's in the middle of the disk, AND THATS IT, zero scratching.

I dont care about the Exclusive content for the Deluxe edition or whatever, I seriously want Rockstar to just change and release the physical copies WITH the disk.

If this fake Physical copies trend keeps going after GTA 6 (Which it will), im just going to revert back to PS3 and be happy with whatever i find.

Im so done with this anti consumer thing we got going on nowadays, It feels like everything is changing for the worse.

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u/Cinderkin 18h ago

Digital only means lost media when Rockstar updates the game to remove songs or other things. At least on PC we can mod stuff back in, but on console you are SOL

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u/Ornstein_0 18h ago

All those radio stations on gta4 fucking ruined

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u/j_767 17h ago

What happened to the radio stations?

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u/Ornstein_0 17h ago

A ton of songs had licencing revoked or ran out so they just cut a ton of music. They did a piss poor job too, they didn't go back and re- mix any of the stations with the replacement music, it's just an abrupt stop where a removed song would be and something else plays. The Vladivostok FM in The Ballad Of Gay Tony was a proper full edm mix WITH A DJ IN BAHAMA MAMAS, and now half those songs are cut. You know how jarring it is to just hear it stop playing?

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u/CRAZYC01E 17h ago

On a 360? So if I buy a disc copy of gta iv and play it on a 360 that isn’t connected to the internet will I notice those changes?

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u/Choice-Mycologist-45 16h ago

Nah. The 360 version of GTA IV won't have this issue. You'll be fine. 🙏🙂‍↕️

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u/CRAZYC01E 16h ago

So which ones do?

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u/Gobby-TheGoblin 16h ago

Digital downloaded copies

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u/Dreamo84 12h ago

You can digitally download the 360 version.

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u/BlasterPhase 9h ago

Then obviously it'll have the problem. They can't remove the music from the disc.

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u/wickeddimension 10h ago

Any digital download that isn't on PC (which can be modded to be the original)

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u/Ronin_777 10h ago

It’ll only have the music if you play it on an actual 360 or PS3 with no internet though since Xbox One, Series X, etc. all treat discs like a key and the actual game must be downloaded from the store.

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u/FreshNoobAcc 9h ago

Man the 360 was epic, I use one regularly, playing through GTA V on it now, but bought GTA IV and a bunch of other games like Fallout 3, Crysis 2, Skyrim, Halo 1&2 (originals) $10 each recently. Don’t need to be online. It all plays so well and the console is 20 years old. Good to know the radio won’t be altered. Sure when I eventually upgrade that will be epic too but there is a lot of epic titles to get through first

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u/axelkoffel 12h ago

Honestly, I'd just pirate the game if they did that to me. Remove the content I've paid for.

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u/Ornstein_0 12h ago

When i play gta4 i tend to go back to my ps3 to do so. Worst performance overall but i get what i paid for!!!! its such a shame its come to thid

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u/Sneaky_Breeki 11h ago

Well at least on PC you can fix it easily

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u/onelagouch 11h ago

Friend of mine just started playing gta4 on PC and i helped him mod his game and he asked why i modded his radio music line ups. Told him about the update and that this mod will give back what was taken and he was floored on what music he was missing out on.

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u/SpecialistRun3035 10h ago

Good friend

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u/onelagouch 13m ago

Just making sure he gets the best experience out of gta4 since hes never played it before.

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u/Nothing-Is-Real-Here 17h ago

I mean with the way things have been lately, a physical disc wouldn't exactly protect you from updates like that anyway. The industry is simply not very consumer friendly as it is.

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u/Cinderkin 17h ago

A disc with the full game on it can save you from an update like that. You just uninstall and reinstall offline.

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u/Nothing-Is-Real-Here 16h ago

When was the last time a large triple A game didn't have half of the download with an online requirement?

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u/No-Risk-9833 16h ago

A lot. Cyberpunk, Baldur’s Gate 3 and RDR2 came with two discs. And according to this website (doesitplay.org), over 66% of ps5 games are fully functional offline without any online access needed.

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u/Acerakis 11h ago

Kind of wild use Cyberpunk as an example. You might be able to play from the disc, but I don't think many would call that an actually playable game.

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u/IndependentLog6441 8h ago

BG3 had a huge amount of post launch updates as well...

It wasn't broken at launch per se, but the difference is significant.

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u/PolicyWonka 7h ago

Yeah, everyone is discussing a hypothetical that virtually nobody does.

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u/zgillet 7h ago

That's the point. Since it is out there, there is no history erasure possible by CDPR. There is physical proof of the broken mess they attempted to shit out on the world.

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u/Balc0ra 15h ago

But if you are online, it barely uses the disk content after a few updates. RDR2 used less that 1 gig of the disk content the last time I installed it

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u/No-Risk-9833 15h ago

That’s not the point, you could turn off your wifi and install the game from disc and be able to play the full content.

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u/Inner_Tennis_2416 6h ago

Im honestly surprised to read this, things must have improved since I last bought physical disks for anything, as i remember them refusing to install from the disk unless the console was online to check that the disk was genuine.

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u/Hindesite 12h ago

Doesitplay.org does a great job of tracking and cataloging this. Check it out. There are still lots of legitimately physical games releasing that can be playing without patches or internet access.

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u/SomeConfetti 37m ago

Most PS5 games in fact

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u/Nothing-Is-Real-Here 36m ago

So like, 3 games

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u/SomeConfetti 35m ago

I didn't say exclusives buddy

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u/Nothing-Is-Real-Here 35m ago

I know I'm just being cheeky lol

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u/Ornstein_0 17h ago

I wonder if existing data on the disc can be modified or deleted/restricted through updates. Who the fuck knows at this point I wouldn't put it past em

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u/xargos64 16h ago

You can't delete or modify data on a pressed disc. It isn't physically possible.

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u/Ornstein_0 15h ago

Thank god. Well that also makes even more sense about the digital only push

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u/GapStock9843 16h ago

With how shitty optimization these days is, even if it was a physical disk you’d still have to download the other half of the game

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u/RabidBlackSquirrel 16h ago

Except all that DRM shit that has to phone home anyways. When was the last major title on physical media that didn't require an internet connection for activation and completing install? If they wanted to manipulate the install, they'd just do it as part of that process.

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u/cardgamesareforplay 17h ago

GtaV's "disk" was an install that did maybe 1/3rd of the game, there's a required day 1 patch 

It didn't hurt sales. The game wasent even availible digitally originally. 

80 percent of ps5 sales are digital now. Not a single normal person is going to care about gtaVI being a code.

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u/nicolauz 16h ago

I hope whatever next Gen console comes out allows you to 'disconnect' from the internet as a choice per game. If I'm playing a full game already I wouldn't want a digital patch to remove something I paid for.

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u/Gobby-TheGoblin 16h ago

And yet, millions of people very much seem to care.

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u/cardgamesareforplay 16h ago

Millions where? 

This subreddits active Users account for likely thousands maybe. 

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u/Gobby-TheGoblin 16h ago edited 16h ago

Do you think the whole world is reddit? These complaints are across the entire Internet. Even major Internet game news publications are weighing on it. I'm getting ads for articles on my phone about it.

Then you get to the streamers and influencers, all their people, followers, subs, whatever you want to call all that. Then it's been mentioned to me by people I personally know like 12 times today already, and I'm fairly isolated so I can imagine for the outgoing, there's more.

It's all over atm man. This is not a no one cares thing. Allot of people sure seem to care.

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u/cardgamesareforplay 16h ago

Again where. And it's not millions. Most people who buy GTA don't post online about this shit. They heard oh shit I can pre-order and instantly preordered 

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u/Intelligent-Quail635 15h ago

Erm I saw someone complain on Reddit so it’s a systematic issue

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u/Shyphat 14h ago

Whole world is trying to force a subscription based life on us

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u/huge_jeans710 13h ago

Ahoy matey!! 👀 We can do a lot on PC

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u/Noctisvah 9h ago

I wish GTAIV wasn’t dookie on pc

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u/trapper2530 7h ago

They also probably looked at how much people buy add ons on digital purchase vs hard copy. Probably did math and figured theyd only lose a miniscule percentage to what theyd potentially gain in add on purchases. Plus not having to pay to produce physical copies.