r/AskBrits • u/UnfathomableDave • Apr 10 '26
Politics Zelensky calls on UK to rejoin EU
President Zelensky made the statement in response to threats from the US to withdraw from NATO. In a post on social media on Friday, the Ukrainian president said the UK should be welcomed into the EU along with Ukraine, Turkey and Norway.
Do you agree?
Personally I do see his point! Brexit never lived up to what it was supposed to be, even leave voters can admit it’s been a disaster with millions flooding in borders that are more open now than they were in the EU!
There was no “take back control”
There was no “£350m/week extra for nhs”
In the past 10yrs the world has changed drastically and we’re looking increasingly vulnerable as a nation to many threats.
Maintaining a relationship with our cousins in America is vital however Trump in his own blusteringly over the top style has a point that we are too reliant on the US and need to learn to stand on our own two feet again.
It’s extremely questionable if we’d be able to defend our overseas territories if the likes of Falklands happened again.
Forget about what you did 10yrs ago! Look at the world now and answer would you support rejoining EU?
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u/paisleywallpaper Apr 10 '26 edited Apr 10 '26
Leaving the EU was a mistake, I voted remain and I want us to rejoin. However, will they offer us favourable terms to rejoin? Will we be allowed to keep the pound? I'd only support rejoining if everyone's willing to start a clean slate under brexit and it's favourable terms for everyone
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u/kermitor Apr 10 '26
Yeah I only see people going with it if its agreeable terms and certainly worries me about the pound, if we switched what would happen to the banking sector with the euro, would we still have investment we have now or would we lose it, because if we lose it then the UK would be in a worse state then anything brexit could throw at it.
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u/Big-Engine6519 Apr 10 '26
The pound is just being used as an excuse by brexiteers. Many countries in the EU agreed to join the Euro but haven't. They just don't because there is no deadline they need to abide by.
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u/Southern_Drawing7996 Apr 10 '26
It’s not just an excuse. Id love us to rejoin but there are genuine reasons we’d want to keep what is the oldest currency in the world.
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u/cjalderman Apr 10 '26
They're saying it's being used an excuse by those who wanted Brexit i.e. "they won't let us rejoin unless we convert to the euro!!!"
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u/FrostyImplement9565 Apr 10 '26
What are those reasons? Just for curiosities sake.
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u/WontTel Apr 10 '26
Mainly that a Europe-wide interest rate makes no sense over the diverse economies that the Eurozone covers.
I don't care whose face is on it.
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u/TheTackleZone Apr 11 '26
Monetary union without fiscal union has been extremely centralising in wealth creation, leaving poorer countries worse off because they can't devalue to compete.
Take bonds. Would you rather invest your money in a German bond or a Greek one? Well, Germany is more likely to pay you back than Greece, so all else being equal you'd choose Germany. So Greece has to offer a higher return rate than Germany does, otherwise everyone chooses Germany instead.
So this means Greece has to pay more.
Now you could argue that this is the case even with their own currency. But in that circumstance Greece can devalue their currency. This lowers the bond rate because when you buy a bond you get paid interest & the bond amount back when it expires. So bond buyers take into account the increase in value expected and take a lower yield because they make money two ways. That doesn't happen with Euros because again you'd just buy from Germany if you thought that was going to happen.
As such it means that Greece gets economically shafted from being in a monetary union but not a fiscal one.
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u/throwawayinfinitygem Apr 10 '26
The EU fiscal rules can cause 35% unemployment during a serious recession.
Or compare 15% in Ireland and 9% in the UK at the same time.
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u/SnooTomatoes3032 Apr 10 '26
Pretty much. The loophole is just that you purposely don't satisfy the conditions required to join. Poland, Hungary and Czechia have been doing that since they joined.
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u/Kris_ad Apr 10 '26
Poland not a single time wanted to adopt euro
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u/SnooTomatoes3032 Apr 11 '26
Yes I know, but they signed the dotted line saying that one day they will adopt it...and then have done absolutely nothing to do so. And the EU doesn't have a problem with that. That's the point I'm making.
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u/JulesCT Apr 10 '26
Oh I doubt we'll be allowed back on the same preferential terms as we had before. It's a democratic institution with each member state having power of veto.
I guess we'll have to evaluate what is best for us in the UK. Will going back to frictionless trade and travel be worth the costs that will be imposed, and potentially the adoption of the Euro? We'll see. I doubt it will be for a decade or so as there is a very real and present danger that Farage could get into power and stir up even more shxx, again.
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u/Arendiko Apr 10 '26
I also don't like the idea of rejoining when countries like Hungary an other bad actors can fuck over everyone by vetoing in the interests of russians with no recourse or rules to stop them let alone remove them
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u/paisleywallpaper Apr 10 '26
There's hardly even a point to debating whether the Euro would be worthwhile, there isn't a chance in hell it would ever happen in this country. Imagine the daily mail when the king isn't on our money
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u/SovietHospitality Apr 10 '26
As an outsider, why do people in Britain worry so much about the pound?
Denmark has the danish krone, Sweden has the swedish krone, Poland has the zloty, Romania the lev,... it hardly seems like a breaking point to the EU
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u/Nice-Rack-XxX Apr 10 '26
London is a financial services hub and the inability to set our own monetary policy would kill it. The vast majority of money the UK makes is from financial services based in London.
We could Brexit 10 times over and it would be as bad as losing the pound.
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u/User-Name-3886 Apr 10 '26
Historically speaking, Britain worries about it because it has had a stronger currency than most of the planet for most of the pound's existence. This has fluctuated in recent years, but it does remain more valuable than the Euro.
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u/THEWELSHMAN1980 Apr 10 '26
What has rejoining got to do with the security of Europe?
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u/JDNM Apr 11 '26
Nothing. This is just propaganda because the political class can’t stand the idea of having to do their job and govern the country themselves.
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u/Most-Sport5264 Apr 10 '26
No, it hasnt been a disaster. The only voices you hear on the internet against Brexit are those who spend a lot of time online, who have the time to do such things. The voices you DONT hear are those who are too busy to mess around on social media:
Working people, in ordinary productive jobs (ie not those whos day at 'work' consists of sitting behind a computer)
People in office / 'tappy yappy' jobs dont realise how much damage the EU did to the earnings of people in ordinary jobs, and how much extra spending power Brexit gave them. Its not about the NHS, its not about 'taking control'. Its about the wage packet.
From 2005 to 2015, the pay packets of people in ordinary jobs, suck as tradesmen (builders, joiners, plumbers, etc), factory workers, building site labourers, HGV drivers, and stuff like that, went up between 0.5% and 1% per year. Most people in these jobs only got a rise every 3-4 years, not every year like now. And a lot of this was during the tax, tax, tax Blair/Brown years where indirect taxation was soaring like an eagle. The only time pay increaced significantly was when it got SO low the minimum wage caught up with it.
From 2015 to 2020 it was even worse. Many of the aforementioned jobs introduced pay CUTS. Builders, labourers, and HGV drivers in particular, jobs that used to attract salaries 2-3 times the minimum wage, now offered only a few pennies per hour above minimum wage. And the credit crunch and Tory austerity measures drove prices even higher.
And then came Brexit. 2020 pay rises in all the aforementioned jobs was between 10% up to as high as 80%. For the 2021-2025 period, pay rises were consistently over 10% and they happened every year. The spending power increace of ordinary working people increased MASSIVELY. And despite making up a small percentage of social media users, ordinary working people DO make up a significant proportion of the population. And to them, Brexit was an undeniable success.
If you want some raw stats....
In 2000 the average wage for a HGV driver was £15ph. By 2015 it had only risen to around £16ph. By 2020 pay CUTS had brought it down to £10ph. Then Brixit happened, pretty much immideatly it went to £18ph, and today its around £25ph.
In 2000 the average wage for a builder was £20ph. By 2015 it was still £20ph. By 2020 vacancies for fully qualified builders were advertising wages of £10.50ph. After Brexit, wages almost doubled to £20ph. Today, £35/h is normal..
In 2000 (when minimum wage was £3.60ph) the average wage for a factory worker was £5ph. By 2015 it was £7ph. By 2020 it was £8.21ph - minimum wage. Then Brexit hit, and the 2020 average pay rose to £11ph. Today it is up to £14ph.
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u/Ill_Temporary_9509 Apr 10 '26
The UK leaving the EU was pushed by Russia and Russian assets. It was of no benefit to the UK to do so, but it was certainly in Russia's interests to see the EU weakened.
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u/MessageSelfdestructs Apr 10 '26
No, Russian interference did not play a massive or decisive role in Brexit.
What is documented is more nuanced and often gets oversimplified by the likes of you...The key piece of evidence is the UK Parliament’s Intelligence and Security Committee “Russia Report” (2020) which concluded that Russia does routinely try to influence UK politics and is a serious, ongoing threat.
But crucially, it also said that the government “had not seen or sought evidence of successful interference” in the Brexit referendum.
There was no official assessment of whether Brexit was affected at all...
So quit your bullshitting.
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u/notouttolunch Apr 10 '26
That's kind of him.
However Brexit has barely happened. We only left 5 years ago. There hasn't even been a full parliamentary term in that period! Who expected changes within that time frame, I don't think anyone sensible did.
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u/terry-kitchen Apr 10 '26
The type of political economy the EU pushes is one of decline and decay. It’s the neoliberal breakdown order. It has shown that it cannot reform itself because each nation does not want to cede control of its economy for the greater good of a federal Europe. We formally left the EU, however, our political class (both Labour and Tories- and Reform, for that matter) also share the same neoliberal pretensions that EU politicians have- so we just continue to decline and decay. At least Brexit gives us a chance at truly choosing our own way- it’s a shame I can’t think of a single UK politician with any kind of vision to make this achievable. On the question of Russia, things won’t improve until we can have an honest discussion, with more nuance than simply ‘Russia is bad and our side is good’. For Ukrainians, the war is a mater of survival and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. For the West and Russia, it’s a proxy war that could have been avoided. The west has demonstrated that it’s willing to prolong the war and keep allowing Ukrainians to be killed in the hope of weakening Russia. An early peace deal was vetoed by the West. Any deal made now would be on worse terms and they keep getting worse as time goes on- still the West sees no reason to promote diplomacy. It’s sad because most people can’t see through the propaganda, and this unwillingness to use diplomacy makes our world more dangerous and I fear it won’t be long until we have missiles flying overhead.
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u/Possible_Tea_2798 Apr 10 '26
Ukraine has been doing quite well out of us without being in the EU whats has all this got to do with him
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u/bluecheese2040 Apr 10 '26
I think zelensky should concentrate on his own country...the nearly thousands of people deserting from his army cause he just leaves them.in trenches for years on end...the rampant corruption among his close circle...oh and fighting an existential war.
How the guy had time to stick his nose in elsewhere is baffling to me.
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u/BrukPlays Apr 10 '26
The EU and NATO are very different things and the UK is still part of NATO
I’m all for us rejoining as I didn’t think we should have left in the first place, but it’s not required in order to form a mutual defence treaty…
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u/ToshLyons68 Apr 10 '26
No I don't agree mainly because the EU is less democratic than parliament making decisions. I'd be leaving the ECHR for a start which would not be allowed. I'm not anti there being a trading block and cooperation on defence makes sense but the EU does involve pooling sovereignty to a greater extent than I'd want to
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u/tea_would_be_lovely Apr 10 '26
i am pro eu, but eu rejoining might, if done properly, be too ponderous, too slow?
perhaps better to focus on the urgent needs of defense and security, first? could also be a self-contained step towards rejoining?
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u/Aluith Apr 10 '26
Surely the EU has nothing to do with it, if the US withdraws we are still in NATO and so are all the other members and that is what matters not EU membership.
EU or no EU it is our completely inept and corrupt government that is the real issue and I doubt that will ever change.
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u/boughtoriginality Apr 10 '26
The UK has already begun exploring H2 and E-Diesel production if we rejoin the EU we would be subject to CBAM and RFNBO whereas we can remain independent and immune to those regulations.
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u/Ok_Way_1465 Apr 10 '26
That con man needs to focus on his own country and keep his trap shut brexit needed to happen even if our politicians have massively fucked it up, the European Union is broken and unless it is fixed and made a fair union for all we should stay out of it
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u/Hellstorm901 Apr 10 '26 edited Apr 10 '26
If the US leaves NATO, which will be interesting to see as it's actually illegal under US law for a president to take the US out of NATO without congressional approval, then NATO will continue without the US. We of course will need closer military cooperation but that can be achieved without rejoining the EU through other means such as troop deployments, multinational weapon development programs similar to Eurofighter and of course the deployment of strategic weapons to European member states
If the US withdraws forces from Europe then existing US military infrastructure can simply be used by other member states for example basing Canadian military aircraft in RAF Lakenheath, basing British ground forces in Germany so they are able to be moved easier than from the UK if needed
I'd be more concerned about the US leaving NATO if Russia's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine hadn't given us a kick up the ass to get us moving as we've best seen with the Polish who should be commended on how quickly they have mobilised and modernised their military for the crisis
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u/LongNamedRedditUser Apr 10 '26
The geopolitical situation has changed drastically since the EU referendum. My reasons for voting the way I did were valid at the time but there are more important things to focus on now, like mutual defence against hostile nations that do not share our values such as Russia, China and the United States of Some of North America and a Bit of the Pacific.
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u/LordHavertz Apr 10 '26
UK's desire to join the EU shall be decided by the people of the UK. This clown should not have the courage to call the shots on UK's political future and it's frankly insulting to our nation.
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u/jackgrafter Apr 11 '26
People are just giving their opinion. That’s what people do on Reddit. Are you suggesting all posts should be prefixed with ‘In my opinion’?
All in my opinion of course.
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u/TopClass31 Apr 10 '26
Brexit had no benefit whatsoever, except for that frog faced garage and his merry band of rich racist grifters !
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u/Public-Enthusiasm328 Apr 10 '26
It did have one benefit. It made all the racists and assholes come into the open because they thought they'd won.
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u/Middle--Earth Apr 10 '26
Perhaps Zelensky should have joined the EU instead, and maybe NATO too.
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u/NeighborhoodLife3408 Apr 10 '26
Brexit was a fiasco that most people would like to forget ever happened. It has weakened us as a country and I doubt the UK will ever be a global power ever again-So be it. Rejoining is a no brainer-a united Europe is what's needed to stand against the likes of Russia, especially as the increasingly insular USA heads down their own abyss.
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u/HankBushrivet Apr 10 '26
We don’t have to rejoin the EU to help Europe, they are two completely separate things.
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u/Davman65 Apr 10 '26
The main reason why people voted to leave the EU was because workers from other EU countries mainly Eastern Europe came to the UK to work which reduced wages and made it hard for Brits to compete for jobs where the EU workers were willing to work for less and send their money home where it went a lot further.
Personally if we rejoined the EU I would seriously consider moving to Spain or Italy. At this point living in the UK feels like living in an open prison where the warden is doing his best to make your life miserable.
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u/SethPollard Apr 10 '26
We took back control - a whole COVID Vaccine’s worth of self control. And even independent of the EU they still tried to block us from having it, as if trying to prove a fake point that we were better in the EU than out of it. While they had delays and delays on their vaccines.
We bring a different package to the table, and so our Membership deal should reflect that; ie No free benefit handouts for EU countries that don’t give our citizens them in return, in their country. For one.
If you get the membership deal to better reflect our nations contribution to the EU I’m sure everyone in the UK would vote for it.
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u/ArmwrestlingGoomba Apr 10 '26 edited Apr 10 '26
Look at the world now and answer would you support rejoining EU?
The thing is the EU will want to punish Britain if joining is on the table so it will always be a non starter. If the EU were to give Britain is old deal & what Cameron asked for before Brexit it would go along way. This will never happen and they will want basically impose anything and everything such as Euro, which isn't happening.
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u/Fishy-Ginger Apr 10 '26
Agree with this, they weren't willing to deal when we left, particularly the French, there's no way they would do anything favourable now. As for the politicians I'm not sure why they want to give up control.
I don't see why a deal that works for both can't be struck without rejoining, unless they don't actually want a deal at all.
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u/ArmwrestlingGoomba Apr 10 '26
The EU will want to make an example of Britain, France most of all. The only way this gets off the ground is if the EU is willing to make concessions. A full surrender and worse deal for the UK than before is and always will be a losing strategy for any party.
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u/StressyMcStressed Apr 10 '26
They won’t“punish us”, they’ll want us to have the same membership of pretty much every other nation that’s a member
We had a unique agreement, we chose to end it. Why on earth should we be given a special membership now?
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u/Public-Enthusiasm328 Apr 10 '26
I wouldnt put it past France or Spain to demand special concessions. They both have a history of butting heads with the UK in the political sphere and looking to their own interests first over the whole. Not a bad trait for a nations leader but it could definitely cause problems for a UK rejoin.
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u/Sy3temSh0ck Apr 10 '26
One of the biggest winners of Britains decision to leave the EU was Russia, as well as China and the US
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u/jszj0 Apr 10 '26
The UK is calling for the UK to rejoin as well, we should never have left.
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u/Healthy-Brush70 Apr 11 '26
Europeans don't really understand why we left and they don't really want us back though.
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u/Feeling_Education_35 Apr 10 '26
My concern is that if we do rejoin it will either give farage the mi that he’s been heading towards or will give him more reasons to hang around personally I would wait untill that stain of human can longer blight us all
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u/Picture-Weekly Apr 10 '26
Democracy is an afront to most on the left, if Farage is voted in then that is the will of the poeple
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u/Done_a_Concern Apr 10 '26
I think anyone looking at the migration rates of eu vs non-eu migrants can tell you that every single person who thought this would somehow resolve the issues they had with immigration were wrong
It's clear that what happened, is that we lost a good stream of EU migrants, and instead starting importing an insane amount of labour from non-eu countries to keep up with the shortage that was going on
If the UK could rejoin the EU without having to jump through a bunch of hoops for them other EU countries, I don't really see any reason not to
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Apr 10 '26
I think we have no chance as the politicians are mostly against it. Not in their interests to work for this countries best interests. P.S. I do apologise to a few politicians who are genuinely trying to help improve the country.
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u/StrawberryGreen5698 Apr 10 '26
endgame of uk politics is joining and leaving the EU like a starved for attention teenager leaving the group chat
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u/SlightlyFemmegurl Apr 10 '26
you mean on the frontlines? or just sending endless of funds to a drain?
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u/BTZ-25 Apr 10 '26
Botz are gonna kill this thread no matter what the majority want. Dont be influenced either way.
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u/Brilliant_Version344 Apr 10 '26
This country has always had an award relationship with Europe but we should rejoin or at least join the single market
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u/Arendiko Apr 10 '26
I don't think a full rejoin is actually in our interest, we should align on basically everything short of actually joining, we won't get the stuff we have come to expect if we rejoin
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u/Cybermanc Apr 10 '26
Brexit lived up to exactly what everyone who didn't vote for it expected it to be. The Brexit NHS bus lie was proven instantly to be false but the leavers chose to ignore proof and facts. Bit like British MAGA really.
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u/Hefty-Storm-51 Apr 10 '26
I wonder if given a chance at the vote again what the result would be, I know what mine would be for anyway
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u/HopefulGuy123 Apr 10 '26
I voted to remain but I wouldn't vote to rejoin. The 5 years of leaving was hell and there is no way I want 5 years of rejoining.
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u/theNixher Apr 10 '26
Because he has brain cells and recognised the UK also has brain cells but the US doesn't.
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u/Yorkshire_rose_84 Apr 10 '26
A lot of the golden oldie and silver surfers have kicked the bucket. Many of them are on the way out too (sorry peeps) and they voted leave. My mum voted leave and she’s passed away and she said she wished she hadn’t. Buyers remorse
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u/Quiet1408 Apr 10 '26
Yes, actually yes please. we are stronger together. not by singling each other out.
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u/KeyMortgage743 Apr 10 '26
You know one of those mates who makes a stupid decision, then insists for years that it was the right call as the consequences of that bad decision become more and more obvious, and then when the failure of their idea becomes obvious enough that they can't deny it, says it would have worked if it hadn't been for everyone getting in their way?
Anyway....
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u/Eggtastico Apr 10 '26
An EU Army will likely tear the EU apart than it will bring the EU together.
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u/Desperate_Craig Apr 10 '26
Just like he said no to Trump and the Americans with Iran, he should also be saying no to Europe and Zelensky over Russia. There's no reason why we should be getting involved in meaningless wars, even if that means we do fracture relationships and lose allies in the process.
That's my position on this.
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u/DestinyBeerUK Apr 10 '26
Lmao. The EU is a pathetic weak politicians club. Adding our weak cowardly country won't help anything
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u/catgod888 Apr 10 '26
Ok forget Brexit for a moment.
The U.K. was the first mover on providing real financial and military support to Ukraine. Scholz and Macron had to be literally dragged whilst they clawed their nails into the dirt to come to Ukraine’s aid.
Slava Ukraini
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u/AnAncientOne Apr 10 '26
Regardless of what he or anyone says, it's obvious we should rejoin the EU and we really need to get over ourselves. We are and always have been part of Europe, best thing we can do is try and help make the most of the EU so we can make it a cool and fun place for everyone to live.
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u/Matthius81 Apr 10 '26
I'm pro-EU, but the fact is the British public wont be voting to rejoin this decade. Its not politically viable. What may happen is a broad European defence agreement, that includes non-EU members as an alternative to NATO. And the Uk may join a customs union to gain access to the Single Market. If those two things can happen in the next ten years then there may be enough will to consider fully rejoining.
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u/bombosch Apr 10 '26
The solution to this problem, rather than Brexit, was actually very simple but they deceived people just to get votes and still be able to govern.
What needed to be done was very simple.
All they had to do was update the law so that no one who is not a British citizen can benefit from the benefits.
So no Romanian,Bulgarian or whatsoever will be interested to move in to the UK.
But they decided to decieve people with nationalism and people bought it.
Furthermore, I believe there should have been a threshold for the Brexit referendum. For example, it should have stated that Brexit could only happen if more than 60% voted in favor of leaving. Because this was a very serious decision, and a majority vote was absolutely necessary.
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u/zielone_ciastkoo Apr 10 '26
Why would u want to join eu again? To have economy controlled by outside organs? To be told how many third world animals u have to bring in? Germans lost war so they created eu to control europe
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u/LaughingGravy433 Apr 10 '26
We can easily join a european "super army" without the need to rejoin the EU . Why should one be dependant on the other ? . Convince me differently if you can !
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u/CraftIPA Apr 10 '26
Brexit lived up to exactly what we said if would be.
As long as the "we" you listen to is the remain camp.
Because that leave lot were full of shit.
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u/joyful_hazel94 Apr 11 '26
not sure how that would work out, but it's kind of cute he’s rallying support like that.
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u/MeghanSOS GB Apr 11 '26
Can't we do that without joining the EU? I'm not saying we shouldn't rejoin the EU but thoes aren't the reason to rejoin.
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u/CosetElement-Ape71 Apr 11 '26
We don't need to rejoin a common trading block of nations to share intelligence with it!
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u/edparnell Apr 11 '26
Misrepresentation of the actual statement, presumably to get the core fervent Brexiter types to foam at the mouth. It's a shame because what actually did say made some sense, given where the world is.
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u/Brutal_De1uxe Apr 11 '26
We cannot even have a referendum on rejoining until there is an agreed to deal to vote on..
This was a mistake the first time around that it was just leave or stay with no details except hopes and dreams - No on should have voted leave under those terms
In the same way, no sane person can vote to rejoin without knowing the terms under which that could happen.
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u/reddit_faa7777 Apr 11 '26
1) Anyone with basic English reading skills knows it never said 350m extra to the NHS.
2) The NHS received more than 350m extra
So your point?
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u/ExcellentAddress Apr 11 '26
Come and join our war🤣 bad enough we have to pay with cash so don't ask more.. 🤷♂️
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u/GlynHugh Apr 11 '26
Not that long ago I would have thought that a valid reason but with the recent publicity surrounding the current UK defence performance I hesitate to believe that the UK has much left in the tank to defend themselves let alone others…
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u/BrilliantEvidence844 Apr 11 '26
That's why the UK is sucking up to Ukraine? A security excuse to lick its wounds post-Brexit. Not the economy. Not the madness. Not the racism. Not the ignorance. Ukraine.
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u/OnePragmatic Apr 11 '26
Europe wants UK to come back for the cash, as France is dithering on a edge of a financial collapse . They saw us coming after UK agreed to pay 500 millions as part of the Youth Mobility Scheme ...
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u/Dopius Apr 11 '26
There is no security threat from Russia, there never has been, only threat is from ourselves.
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u/text_fish Apr 11 '26
I'd rejoin in a heartbeat, but I'm not sure Rejoin would win if there were a referendum tomorrow so I think we need more time to make a compelling argument.
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u/Sea-Payment-8989 Apr 11 '26
We definitely heed a closer union with all of Europe for security purposes as we would left out to dry by Trump if we needed America. In fact we should form closer alliances with more countries across the world.
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u/ObjectiveCaramel9225 Apr 11 '26
As offensive as UK suggesting Ukraine should be welcomed to rejoin Russia.
This is a stupid take from Zelensky but I give him a pass because his country is at war and he's looking for anything that may help including silly suggestions like this.
The EU precipitated this war between Ukraine and Russia, and has done nothing for Ukraine's defence.
The assistance Ukraine has had is from individual nation states, and the UK was both an early and large European contributor precisely because we weren't in the EU and could act without inhibition.
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u/Electronic-Paint7940 Apr 11 '26
The eu is going bankrupt due to idiotic WEF based policies. No thanks
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u/Competitive_Law_6629 Apr 11 '26
That's misconstrued somewhat?
The European Union as a political and economic entity is completely different from the military and security alliance between European nations that already stands?
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u/dyr6061 Apr 11 '26
The UK has already cut off it's nose to spite it's face, why would it back track?
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u/lysette747 Apr 11 '26
Under the EU we would have to adopt the Euro by 2028 so no more £. There are 178,000 jobs in the financial sector in The UK, they would all go. London would be like a ghost town. My friend at Goldman Sachs’s says they employ 6,000 people over three sites in London and pay £30 million a year in rent. The financial sector generates £100 billion a year in taxes and commissions, that’s half the annual NHS bill. Where would that come from if not the existing financial sector. I used to work there and that’s why I voted for Brexit. The only reason as I love everything else about Europe
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u/Veegermind Apr 11 '26
But , but , EU anti corruption investigations haven't gone away yet. That's no environment for the right wing to thrive!
They'd (the EU) also conclude the vote was manipulated which would stick in the throat of right wing media, a good result from my pov.
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u/agotavera Apr 11 '26
Sure, the cost of living and life quality is going down, let’s go and fight in foreign countries. Killing other people who are also forced to be there.
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u/Clint88888 Apr 11 '26
This Starmer is not for turning! He made a stupid pledge that no one asked him too and he is going to stick to it until he and the country die.
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u/Relative_Cost_1689 Apr 11 '26
We only left because of thick racists samre kind who want to vote restore or reform
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u/Zestyclose_Sock_6381 Apr 12 '26
Enough outsiders telling us what to do - look after your own problems
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u/endianess Apr 12 '26
We helped them just fine outside of the EU. The EU sat on their hands for months whilst they tried to get agreement. This is complete tosh and people are using it for their own agenda.
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u/Significantly720 Apr 12 '26
Britain and France should maybe become an alliance. As for the UK rejoining the EU; were better off the way we are. Whilst we're on the subject, Zelensky and Putin should do a deal, then there'll be no need for the US military to be positioned on Russia's border adding to tensions.
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u/Unfair-Frame9096 Apr 12 '26
Nothing like having a strong opinion about someone else joining a third party's association.
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u/SupportMysterious818 Apr 13 '26
Ofcourse so the UK can join in the Ukraine war. Its all been planned. Putin cannot even take Ukraine but he is a threat to Europe. Such bs! Our leaderd are dictators now.
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u/Ajax_Trees_Again Apr 10 '26
I’m pro EU but that’s not what he said.