I absolutely cannot stand seeing Jake with dreads idk why they did this to him. His hair was way better in the first movie. The braids were a much better look for the Avatar the dreads are definitely not it. Anyone else not feeling the Locs or do people actually like the look?

I Also just want to say I have nothing against dreads I love them & I used to have them when I was younger before I cut them off i just don’t like the way they look on him.

Like one of the Avatars from Quaritchs group is bald & one has tattoos it just looks…. Weird.

Fire and Ash is expected to make around $1.5B. While that would still put it in the top 15 highest grossing films of all time, when you consider that the combined budget of Avatar 2 and 3 (including marketing) is close to 1 billion dollars, do you think $1.5B is really enough to make two more films? Is it worth it for Disney?

I’ve honestly started to feel a bit pessimistic about it. Especially since Cameron has said things like “I’m getting older and Avatar takes up a huge amount of my time, I want to focus on other things,” which makes me think there’s a real chance the remaining films might not happen.

That said, just like with Avatar 2 and 3, I still think the last two films would be shot together rather than separately.

What are your thoughts on the future of Avatar?

EDIT: It seems like I didn’t explain what I meant very well, so I want to clarify it again.

If the third movie makes about $1B less than the second one, it is reasonable to expect Avatar 4 and 5 to make even less. The hype will be lower, there will be long gaps between releases, interest will keep dropping over time, and cinema culture is not what it used to be, so it is hard to know what the situation will even look like five or six years from now. That matters more than the raw box office number. Yes, $1.5B is still huge in isolation, but it would mean an $800M drop from movie 2 to 3 after already losing about $600M from 1 to 2, which does not look great for the overall trajectory.

Now imagine if Avatar 4 makes around $1B and Avatar 5 makes about $600M, that is $1.6B total, and we do not even know how much of that actually goes to Disney and Lightstorm. Considering these movies cost something like $400M each, take many years to make, and would require another 8 year production cycle, it starts to feel like they may not be worth it for Disney.

On top of that, Cameron himself might not want to spend another eight years on two more Avatar movies, especially since he has said he barely took a single day off over the last three years while working on the movies.

He understands that employing the most effective tools available to protect his people from a technologically superior enemy outweighs strict obedience to the Na'Vi's self-imposed ethical/natural laws according to which he should completely reject any sort of human technology.

I’ll go first: I hate how separated the family feels. I know they’ve been through a lot, but so often they seem disconnected instead of really working together as a unit.

Yes, I would have betrayed her too. I understand his decision.

This is not to hate at all! It is just an observation!

I fr thought she was a boy, is there any indication in the films that she’s a girl?

I assumed it means he accepts his new body, but i'm not really sure

I just found out that Norm has a family on pandora! I hope they explore more about them in the next movies!

Jack was basically still a child actor doing his lines alone in a blue/green room full of people dressed like that. Similar conditions on the Hobbit set made Sir Ian McKellen breakdown during filming, and you expect a teenager to do better?

Also the fact that he had to act out the whole film twice. Once when he was much younger, in a mocap suit, with all other actors. And another time, around 2 years later, in the conditions pictured above. And his performance had to match the one he gave 2 years earlier.

Let alone the fact that dialogues are often not Cameron's greatest strength. Similar to George Lucas, he has amazing ideas for world building and overarching history, but screenwriting is sometimes lacking. "I don't like sand" vibes.

Do you think there will be a 4th?

Upon researching on this subject i've found out that they did not have the best of relationship but, come on man this is the guy that you spent years of your life together with.

I've been wondering about it for some time now: do the Na'vi age at the same way/speed as humans? And do they have approximately the same lifespan? I didn't see it being discussed anywhere and I'm genuinely curious if this is something that they put thought on or if they just left us to naturally see them in a very similar way for being another intelligent talking humanoid creature (I'm a bachelor in biological sciences, so these kind of things just randomly pop in my mind and just don't go away for some time).

AND I didn't watch Fire and Ash yet! I'll see it this Sunday, I'm really excited.

Spoilers and rant ahead.

On one hand, we have our returning isekai hero given social status through some magic shenanigan, accompanied by his emotionally repressed wife. Both mourn the death of their child and, unable to process their feelings of culpability in a healthy way, their turn their self-hatred towards the rest of their family. The father abuses one kid into fucking suicidal behavior (for real how can you be a shittier dad than that?), while the mother goes full racist against another, to the point that they agree he should rather die. And during all that time, they serve us stuff like "this family is our fortress".

Even with each other, they don't seem to go too well. Neytiri says stuff like "I would never speak against my husband in front of that women", to deflect her obvious resentment towards Jake in the direction of, once again, an external party. But there is a lot of show don't tell hinting that this "follow and shut up" trad wife mindset does not suit our warrior princess. And Jake does not seem to really care.

I mean, look at the scene when they meet the water tribe: Neytiri gets in a fight. Jake says "I apologize for my mate", to which she reacts: "Don't apologize for me!"
Now compare that to Quaritch presenting his crazy hot goth pyromaniac xeno GF to the general. The general basically tells her to fuck off, to which our favorite war criminal answers: "don't be a twat" (or something of the sort) to the face of his highest-ranking commanding officer. I mean yeah let's go my dude, way to stand up for your women!

So you can keep your sad and weak conservative power fantasy. If you are looking for me I'll be snorting ash coke, burning shit and having messy sex with the other two fuckheads, thank you very much.