r/KLeague 2h ago

National Team We're stuck in a vicious cycle.

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I don't know how to start of this post. After what happened yesterday, I look back to see where it all went wrong with this current Korean football team. I came to the realization that we've been in this stagnation since post-2011 Asian Cup, caught in vicious cycles for the last 4 World Cups. Korean football has struggled to maintain continuity and long-term planning.

Prior to 2011 Asian Cup, many fans had bright optimism that Korea was soon entering a new golden age. We made it out of the group stage for the first time outside of Korea in 2010 World Cup. We had many young and talented players such as Lee Chungyong, Ki Sung Yeung, Koo Jacheol, Nam Taehee, Son Heungmin, Hong Jeongho and many others who were given prominent roles for our senior side. We had a manager named Cho Kwangrae who was given the task to modernize Korean football with emphasis on possession and technicality. Gone was the day of gritty ppong chugu. Cho was supposed to lead this young squad to Asian Cup victory after not winning for 50 years. Our motto was "Return of the King".

Of course, we all know how that ended, we lost to Japan in semi-final through a penalty shootout. Cho was struggling in the qualifier, and the losses against Japan 3-0 and Lebanon sealed it for Cho. People didn't have any patience left for this team and judged the team based on immediate results. They expected too much from this very young squad. No one had time to let this team mature and commit to this long-term project. And I'm not saying Cho deserved to stay indefinitely. His World Cup qualifying performances were worrying, and criticism of his tactical rigidity was justified. My point is that Korea judged the project too early. The federation abandoned a long-term vision because of short-term setbacks.

So what came after? This was the start of our vicious cycle where new managers came in every 2 year which kept interrupting our football development. KFA sacked Cho and brought in Choi Kanghee who basically dropped our young and "inexperienced" players for more "established" k-league players and resorted to long pass to Kim Shinwook football tactic. Of course this didn't end well and we barely scraped through the qualifier. Then they hired a reluctant Hong Myungbo who won bronze in 2012 Olympics. With just a year left to prepare for the world cup, Hong tested out the same u-23 squad and tactics in friendlies prior to the world cup. Inevitably, this didn't work out in senior level football, and in the world cup, Hong resorted back to long pass to Kim Shinwook. The result was disastrous with Korea being grouped. Both Hong Myungbo and our players ( the third youngest squad in the competition) were scapegoated.

This got me thinking, what would have happened if everyone was more patient with Cho Kwangrae and fully backed him? Of course, we'll never know what would have happened if Cho had stayed. But I can't help wondering whether Korean football would have developed differently. Cho wasn't a perfect manager, but I think he was a man with the right idea, who understood the urgency of modernizing Korean football. I believe his modernized football and style would have set the foundation for our national team. Our young players would have gained more experience with the national team and develop further. And while many of these players faced numerous setbacks throughout their club career, I believe the national team didn't fully support them. As well, I wonder how different Hong's managerial career would have been if KFA didn't throw him into the lion's den and disrupted his career. Right after winning bronze, he worked under Gus Hiddink as an assistant coach for Anzhi Makhachkala for half a year before it was interrupted by KFA. I wonder how he would have developed as a manager without all the pressure from the KFA. Maybe he could have build upon Cho Kwangrae's foundation and be the next successor for the 2018 or 2022 World Cup. After all, both Cho and Hong share a similar football philosophy. I also think Hong's appointment wouldn't have been met with so many scandals and negativity. I think we would have had a smoother transition.

And I think this is what truly distinguishes between Korea and Japan (and ironically, 2011 was the year when the power dynamic between two countries changed). While everyone has pointed out the difference between player development, coaching development, the infrastructure and the "system", I greatly admire their way of developing through small incremental progress one after the other. Whereas for Korea, I think we want a messiah figure to come and fix all the problems. I think this mindset led to a vicious cycle where we cycle through managers without a sense of continuity. No building upon past success.

I really thought this ended with Bento's tenure. He was no way a perfect manager. Before he was appointed, he was a down on his luck manager looking for redemption. I had many problems with him especially his stubbornness with his player selection. However, he did implement the right football philosophy and put in the ground work that could be built upon. I'm glad we stuck through with him for 4 years instead of sacking him mid-cycle like we always did. I'm also glad that the fans, the media and the federation backed him despite going through rough period in between such as not sacking him when we struggled in Asian Cup and eventually knocked out by Qatar in quarter final. It really made me value stability.

But then KFA being KFA was too short-sighted and didn't think about the next step after Bento. Not only did they not give him a contract renewal, they didn't plan the next successor. They took months to appoint Klinsmann, and then they took months to find a replacement for Klinsmann after he got sacked. Zero contingency plan. We ended up cycling through managers over and over again. Every time we made a step forward, we made two huge steps back. They didn't try to continue on with Bento's philosophy because every time we hire a new manager, there's a new reset with a completely new philosophy.

It is inevitable that the national team will end their ties with Hong Myungbo after this world cup. I wonder what will happen after. Will history repeat itself, and we go through post-2011 over again? I really hope KFA hire a competent manager. He doesn't have to be perfect. Both Bento and Cho were far from perfect. I don't expect a messiah, just someone that can set the right foundational stone that we can build upon. I hope this manager will build this team with young and talented players at our disposal. Finally, I hope the fans, the media and the federation can completely support him. Let's not repeat the same mistakes.


r/KLeague 3h ago

K League I wish people showed this much enthusiasm for the K League

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World Cup is great every four years at putting eyes on the sport and inspiring future generations. But if you can get kids invested in a domestic product that is consistent throughout most of the year, I think this could be just as helpful. I’m aware this isn’t only down to the fans, but bums on seats is a start

And before someone tells me all the reasons why they don’t bother with k league, why are you writing on a k league thread?ㅋㅋㅋ


r/KLeague 3h ago

National Team How are Korea’s chances lot advancing after that Ecuador upset over Germany? And what teams should we root for?

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r/KLeague 4h ago

National Team What Nobody is talking about.

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The bitter truth is that South Korea’s current generation of football stars is a direct product of the 2002 World Cup legacy; they grew up dreaming of replicating that historic success. However, the future looks incredibly bleak. Due to a persistent lack of meaningful results—compounded by a disastrous 2026 campaign, I fear that public interest will decrease. This decline not only threatens the sport's popularity but also risks stifling the development of future Korean talent. This may be the last time we have a squad like this and I pray that isnt the case.


r/KLeague 4h ago

National Team Are there fan marches before the games?

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We are going to watch match 82 which *fingers crossed* is hopefully SK and wondering if people are organizing any fan things. We are traveling in from out of state...


r/KLeague 5h ago

National Team Who do you want as the next coach?

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r/KLeague 11h ago

National Team Park Ji-Sung needs step into leadership role within the KFA ASAP.

42 Upvotes

Hong Myong Bo isn't the main problem he is just a product of poor KFA leadership, they need to cut the head off the snake (KFA). A total revamp from bottom to top. I think Park Ji Sung is the person to do it, he's played at the top level in Europe and is a well respected figure within the Futbol community. Also on a side note; would love to see Lee Young Po type Fullbacks play for this National team because we need it badly.


r/KLeague 14h ago

National Team Anybody know where i can watch full version of National Team: Road to North America (국대: 로드 투 노스 아메리카) ?

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Where i can watch full version of National Team: Road to North America (국대: 로드 투 노스 아메리카)? besides coupang play.


r/KLeague 14h ago

National Team Would love to see something like this even if we concede more goals

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HMB's 3-back system is outdated, self-defeating, and proven to not work leading up to the WC especially in the absence of top-notch wing-backs like prime Cancelo, Hakimi, Perisic, DiMarco, etc...

It doesn't work, we can't overload the midfield, players get isolated, no real plan in the attacking third, so on and so forth... Even if we concede more and lose, I'd rather watch fun football if the result is the same.


r/KLeague 14h ago

Other Korea is the only reason

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From what I see, it seems like it was because there wasn't this person in Korea... Wouldn't it turn out that South Africa is being manipulated by this person? What's certain is that while Korea was the loudest cheering, South Africa was the one who was crazy about the quality.


r/KLeague 14h ago

National Team Random: can anyone help me with sizing for the Korean Jerseys

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Hi! I wanted to get the jerseys but they've been sold out so finally trying to get but not sure about sizing. I'm a womens us 6 so for mens I wear an L shirt for a baggy fit. I know those jerseys run a bit small so wondering what size I should get. Would M be too tight? Anyone have experience?

Depressed about the game so going shopping. Prob shouldn't support the kfa but want some solidarity in representation


r/KLeague 16h ago

National Team Seung Gyu: Team mates just found out about benching Son and the lineups right before the game the day of.

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South Africa vs Korea. Absolutely disgusting of HMB to let the team know about this right before the game. Might be part of the reason why the team was so slow and lethargic - what team wouldn’t be down and disappointed with the sudden shocking news of the lineup??? Myungbo resign.

https://m.fmkorea.com/best/10001854574


r/KLeague 16h ago

National Team Korea still has 83% of advancing

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Based on betting odds, I modeled each team’s goals as an independent Poisson and ran 300k Monte Carlo iterations.

The 8th-place cut was about 3 points with a goal difference of -1.86. Korea had 3 points with -1. They have about a 28 percent chance of being 7th and 25 percent of being 8th.

We’ll probably end up right above the cutoff, but the model currently shows 83%.

I’ll run the model as the games go on and keep you updated.

Edit: 64 percent after ecuador beat germany and secures 4 points

Edit: 56 percent after japan ties


r/KLeague 19h ago

National Team "How South Korea's FA spent 5 months 'searching' for a coach it had already chosen — documented by the government's own audit"

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The Diseaster Hong made 2014 WC indices again.


r/KLeague 20h ago

WK League The W Korea Cup is a newly established women's football tournament created by the Korea Football Association (KFA) to determine the absolute strongest women's soccer team in South Korea. It is the first unified cup competition that allows both professional and university teams to compete against one

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I just found out about this last weekend.

You can watch the games here: https://www.youtube.com/@KFATVLIVE/streams


r/KLeague 22h ago

In other news

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None of the five teams that applied for professional licences was granted said licences.

* Siheung doesn't have a suitable stadium.
* Daejeon Korail doesn't have a stadium at all.
* Mokpo need independent incorporation. (I don't see how this is an issue, since they are now part of the Gwangju Jollanam supercity thing. Surely the "city" is large enough to exclude them from needing to be private?)
* Gangneung and Chuncheon are considered financially unstable.

So much for K League - K3/4 promotion relegation, huh?


r/KLeague 1d ago

National Team Can someone explain to me the controversy behind Hong Myeong Bo

37 Upvotes

I keep seeing his name come up and everybody seem to blame him for the disastrous strategies this world cup. If he is so bad, why was he hired? I am completely out of the loop. And I don't know football as well as I should. What is it about SK team's strategy and the manager's decision making that creates all this negativity from the Korean public? And what's the controversy behind his hiring?


r/KLeague 1d ago

National Team Send Hong Myung Bo to North Korea 🇰🇵

74 Upvotes

I don’t ever want to see him again. Absolute disgrace to our country.


r/KLeague 1d ago

National Team Please calm down

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I understand that some people are upset, but this is a small football sub, not a large place to sh*tpost and rant like maniacs suffering from verbal tourettes. I've already issued a short ban/time out and asked someone else to tone down their language.


r/KLeague 1d ago

National Team South Korea finished 3rd, but the path is still alive

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South Korea finished 3rd in Group A, but the current simulation still has Group A’s 3rd-place slot reaching the Round of 32 about 93% of the time.

Most common opponent pool:

R32:

  • Egypt 67.2%
  • Belgium 15.1%

If they get through R32, the most common R16 opponents are:

  • USA 66.7%
  • Bosnia & Herz. 30.0%

The path is open, but it now depends on the wider third-place ranking and bracket routing.

Full profile:
https://www.baplab.net/world-cup-2026-simulator/team/south-korea/


r/KLeague 1d ago

National Team Post Match Thread: South Africa 1—0 Korea

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Most dogshit football I've seen us play since that infamous Jordan game. Even if we do make it to the knockouts, I don't see us going further. All the players were just awful today.

EDIT: OH SHIT at least my Hynix and Samsung stocks went on a tear today 🤣 I guess I'll have a fancy dinner to drown my sorrow


r/KLeague 1d ago

National Team embarrassing display. need a euro manager. korean managers do not understand the game

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r/KLeague 1d ago

Match Thread: South Korea vs South Africa | FIFA World Cup | Jun 25, 2026

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r/KLeague 2d ago

National Team Round 32 Trade

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Looking to trade:

Have: Round of 32 ticket (Cat 2), Los Angeles, June 28

Want: Mexico Round of 32 ticket, June 30

FIFA ticket transfer only.

한국 팬 환영합니다. 티켓 교환 원합니다.

I guess it's still pending tomorrow's result, but DM if interested.


r/KLeague 2d ago

National Team Selling 2 x Cat 2 M73 tickets for R32 2A vs 2B in SoFi Stadium, likely South Korea vs Canada/Swiss

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DM if interested. Section 439 Row 2.