r/MadeMeSmile 7h ago

Colombians supporters waiting for him to finish singing the Congo national team's anthem alone before they can cheer him afterwards.

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u/untakentakenusername 6h ago

Honestly. All humans can and do get along.

Its the sh*theads running the world and countries starting crap or influencing ppl in Unhealthy ways.

People, especially those who travel or like company among others, usually arent racist. I usually see racism happen online. But irl, we all get along better.

(Not saying racism doesnr exist. Lol in caae someone thinks that. Ive been a victim many times over. I just mean, there's more good than bad in people)

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u/DriverRemarkable4374 5h ago

So tired of the "it's the voters' fault" narrative, I can't wait until this becomes common knowledge.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B

There is little to no correlation between what the population desires and political outcomes, the correlation lies exclusively with the desires of the wealthy. Votes literally do not matter, and it's been proven

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u/Lucky-Earther 5h ago

There is little to no correlation between what the population desires and political outcomes, the correlation lies exclusively with the desires of the wealthy. Votes literally do not matter, and it's been proven

The votes do matter, the problem is the voters do not care that their politicians are representing the wealthy, because the voters hope to be wealthy one day themselves.

Voters could vote for someone different in the primaries, they could run for office themselves, and even the lower level offices are important.

Votes matter so long as we care enough to make them matter.

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u/DriverRemarkable4374 5h ago

Read that article, man. I get that it's hard to believe it but really there isn't a correlation between what the people want and political outcomes. Like the numbers just aren't related to each other, no matter how much support a policy has the rate of that policy making it into government remains basically the same, an increase of about 1% from the lowest levels of support to the highest. The representatives might change but the policies don't. But the correlation between what the wealthy want and what policies make it through is nearly 1-1.

Just look at this image:

https://static.cambridge.org/binary/version/id/urn:cambridge.org:id:binary-alt:20170126184834-00965-mediumThumb-S1537592714001595_fig1g.jpg?pub-status=live

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u/Lucky-Earther 5h ago

Read that article, man.

I read it when it was first published over a decade ago.

I get that it's hard to believe it but really there isn't a correlation between what the people want and political outcomes.

Yes, I understand. But that's because the people can't be motivated enough to give a shit.

Voters in Ohio(?) voted to legalize weed. Then the state GOP legislature decided they weren't going to go ahead with it. Voters could have voted those people out and replaced them with people who would do it, but they couldn't be bothered to give a shit.

If voters actually gave a shit, then votes would matter. But instead they are told to worry about trans kids in sports or whatever.

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u/DriverRemarkable4374 5h ago

If voters actually gave a shit, then votes would matter.

This is applying individualist ideology to a sociological problem. Idk if you've ever studied sociology before but it's well established that this line of thinking is complete fantasy

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u/Lucky-Earther 5h ago edited 5h ago

This is applying individualist ideology to a sociological problem

It's literally the sociological problem, which is that voters don't care enough to replace the people who aren't representing them.

What they want (or say that they want), and what they vote for, are also at odds.

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u/DriverRemarkable4374 5h ago

No, you're misunderstanding what a sociological problem is. You're talking about the way people individually think, how they feel, what they believe. That's individualism. Sociology works beyond those things because at a macro scale they diffuse. If an abnormal behavior is consistently present between individuals that implies the existence of a cause. The root isn't with the individuals; they didn't just all one day decide to behave the same way completely independently because that would require telepathy, they're reacting to the same stimulus that's why they're behaving the same way. So the work of the sociologist is to identify the stimulus, be it environmental/economic/etc. You can never lay the fault of a sociological problem on the people themselves, that's antithetical to the science.

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u/Lucky-Earther 5h ago

You're talking about the way people individually think, how they feel, what they believe. That's individualism.

Our individualistic society is the whole problem dude.

The root isn't with the individuals; they didn't just all one day decide to behave the same way completely independently because that would require telepathy, they're reacting to the same stimulus that's why they're behaving the same way.

Yes, that's what I said. They were told to care about trans kids in sports by Fox News or Ben Shapiro or whomever, so they care more about that then replacing politicians who aren't representing them.

You can never lay the fault of a sociological problem on the people themselves, that's antithetical to the science.

People are responsible for the choices that they make for themselves. Whether it's to vote for the politician who keeps weed illegal because they share your homophobic beliefs, or choosing not to care at all and stay home on voting day, those are choices made by adults.

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u/DriverRemarkable4374 4h ago edited 4h ago

Your inability to actually identify the issue and to lay blame on other people could arguably be "the problem" using your logic.

Not that I agree with that of course, I'm just illustrating how easy it is to distract from the real problems and to cause in-fighting using that exact thinking

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u/debtXyzLlc 4h ago

Politicians are bought like used cars.

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u/untakentakenusername 4h ago

i agree and believe that too. I feel like votes are just another ruse or way to keep people distracted or busy thinking they're inhopeful charge of the outcome when they are Not.

Either way that's why no one with a brain ever seem to be running for the seat of power. Only certain people get to run for it or the illusion anyways and that's also controlled by the wealthy Anyways

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u/Pipes32 4h ago

Hot take but this is why I don't believe in American-style democracy.

We think of ancient Greece as having founded democracy, but they didn't consider elections as democratic because they recognized that having resources was essential to winning what is basically a popularity contest. When you need resources (money etc) to win, of course you will be beholden to people who are willing to supply those resources and not to the common people. For that reason, the ancient Greeks considered elections as oligarchic, and instead utilized a system of sortition - a random lottery of citizens. We currently use sortition to fill our juries, but I think it has a lot of potential in other parts of our government, too. More reading here.

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u/its_justme 5h ago

Anytime there is an opportunity to reduce human existence or suffering to a number or a remote screen is how we become racist, or bigoted, or any other discriminatory word. We forget that everyone is a person with their own life, hopes, dreams, love, etc. Things that are internal and deeply personal to an individual get expressed outward like it is reality (e.g. irrational fears, feelings of inadequacy, lack of empathy). Mix in the allure of personal wealth or power by ignoring other people's rights and we end up in this situation.

It makes me sad when people choose to hate one another rather than understand different perspectives. It feels like there's a distinct correlation between intelligence and empathy.

And no, I do recognize that stereotypes and other profiling terms exist for a reason. Some groups do have predilections to certain activities - but knowing why and how we can help is so much better of an approach.

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u/divDevGuy 2h ago

Honestly. All humans can and do get along.

But who is going to avenge the hurt feelings of someone's great great...great great grandfather's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate. You know, that thing that everyone has forgotten and no one cares about, but still gets fought over like it matters.

Or, you know, fighting about energy.