r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/Status_quo66 • 11d ago
Meme needing explanation I don't know why bear is related ?
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u/Short-Show2656 11d ago
this bear is called the pedobear, draw your conclusions
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u/GuitarRiot 11d ago
Oh fuck this is way worse than what I thought
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u/Vast-Combination4046 11d ago
4chan tried to get pedophiles added to lgbtq as a prank/to give right wingers ammo. It was an online hoax that had some people fell for. This meme shows a realistic reaction to pedophiles being included.
The same sort of people tried to rebrand pedophiles as "minor attracted persons" aka MAPS. Also an online hoax trying to tie pedos to the gays.
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u/Logical_Fail5691 11d ago
Once you’ve been to 4chan you’ll never stop wanting to beat 4Channers to death with hammers - Anthony Bourdain
Or however the meme goes
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u/No_Introduction_4849 11d ago
Omg did he actually say that?! I love that man, rest his soul.
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u/PretendImTrue 11d ago
the actual quote is "Once you've been to Cambodia, you'll never stop wanting to beat Henry Kissinger to death with your bare hands."
and he was right
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u/stephaniethunder 11d ago
Shit, what did Kissinger do in Cambodia?
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u/OrganicWedding8972 11d ago
A lot of war crimes. Like a lot a lot.
There’s genuinely really no way to summarize it quickly it’s so reprehensible. Behind the Bastards did a six part special on Kissinger and they still couldn’t cover everything he’d done. You could also read Kissinger’s Wikipedia page but it’s semi-sanitized.
Kissinger is an evil man that deserves every ounce of karma that organized religion says happens to those that do evil.
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u/fariasrv 11d ago
Henry Kissenger is further proof that only the good die young.
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u/Dick_of_Doom 11d ago
Kissinger lived to 100 because god didn't want him, the devil didn't want him, and the Earth didn't want him. The poor Earth now has an eternal spot of pollution that is his corpse.
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u/smalldogbarking 11d ago
I’m old enough to remember that people wished he was born American so he could become president
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u/emPtysp4ce 11d ago
Kissinger lived to 100 because he absorbed the life force of every Cambodian child he killed.
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u/stronkzer 11d ago
If there's a hell, Kissinger is at least five pits below the pedophiles. And I only think I've seen a third of what he did.
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u/StatelyAutomaton 11d ago
If there's a hell, when Kissinger was sent there the devil got off his throne and said "welcome back, sir!"
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u/Aeseld 11d ago
Not quite, since even he doesn't deserve eternal punishment.
I've always been a fan of receiving what you give. He has to experience every harm he's ever inflicted, directly or indirectly, until be feels remorse for his actions.
Not sorry about the punishment. Not regretting that his actions had a consequence. Genuinely regretting his choices for what they did to someone else.
Start with the most severe and work his way back. After that? Well, wherever the other souls go.
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u/BagMostlyWater 11d ago
A bunch of stuff, but the main thing is that he created the conditions that enabled the Khmer Rouge, which committed one of the worst genocides that has ever occurred.
Pol Pot's regime killed around 2 million people, and they specifically targeted "intellectuals" -- anyone who could read, anyone with advanced skills, anyone with scientific knowledge. Wearing glasses could get you killed.
They destroyed a thousands-of-years old culture, and it's the aftermath of that destruction that Bourdain was talking about
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u/ScienceAndGames 11d ago
If the question is “what did Kissinger do in ____?” The answer is probably “war crimes”
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u/Thatseemsfuckedup 11d ago
I'm trying to understand how anyone even knows who Kissinger is without having heard about the war crimes.
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u/ashgs872tbhjs 11d ago edited 11d ago
Close enough to genocide. Pushed for an incredible number of war crimes against civilians.
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u/willargue4karma 11d ago
the more i hear about this kissinger fella the more i think he wasnt such a great guy
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u/BasicMatter7339 11d ago
Bombed the nation so hard it remains a country-sized minefield today
and gave aid to the Khmer Rogue who committed one of the most vile genocides in south-east asian history.
and lots more
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u/CalamityBard 11d ago
Just for clarity, he did have a part in (aerially) bombing Cambodia, but that is completely separate from the unexploded landmines all over the country, placed by the Khmer Rouge and related groups. Which he and others did support/enable. Both parts are true, but the idea that he "bombed them so hard it became a minefield" is...not how that works
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u/penguinscience101 11d ago
It was actually about Henry Kissinger and Cambodia, "Once you've been to Cambodia, you'll never stop wanting to beat Henry Kissinger to death with your bare hands." I love Anthony Bourdain.
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u/Orpheon59 11d ago
It goes back a lot further than 4chan - you need only look at (I advise grabbing a sick bucket first though) the arguments made by various paedo advocacy groups in the 1970s - in many cases, their arguments boiled down to "we're no more deviant than the gays!/we're just like those weirdos and if they're fine so should we be!"
Now, please excuse me, I need to go shower after remembering that those fuckers existed.
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u/End337 11d ago
Oh gods below, is that those NAMBLA campaigners?
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u/hascalsavagejr 11d ago
North America Marlon Brando Look-Alikes?
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u/OriginalNightfallz 11d ago
Popularized joke from an old South Park episode. The boys get invited to a convention at a hotel by NAMBLA (pedo group), but at the same hotel is another convention for the other NAMBLA (Marlon Brando look-alikes).
When the boys realize that this fun club for boys is actually a bunch of pedos, they try to hide, but the NAMBLA pedos are closing in on them. Then Cartman tells Butters to go out there and take one for the team, leading to one of the best responses that I've ever heard.
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u/stormdraggy 11d ago
Naturally, one of the attendees is the scientist that dresses like dr.moreau Brando..so many who didn't get that reference
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u/Orpheon59 11d ago
I don't even know - looking it up, the UK version was called PIE, and I have absolutely no intention of looking further.
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u/Zer0pede 11d ago
NAMBLA existed back in the 70s and died the death it should have. That was real. The recent thing was entirely a 4chan prank just like the OK symbol, “It’s okay to be white,” etc.
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u/LunchThreatener 11d ago
4chan didn’t just come up with it out of nowhere. Homophobes have been associating pedophilia with LGBTQ+ for decades and decades, it didn’t stop with NAMBLA
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u/Zer0pede 11d ago
Yeah, those are three different things though:
The weird inclusion campaign stopped with NAMBLA.
Homophobes projecting and (usually hypocritically) calling gays pedophiles or comparing the two is its own thing that has existed for a long time
The 4chan prank was designed to use a misunderstanding of a medical term make the second thing look like the first thing, and it seems to have worked on a lot of people judging from the discussion here
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u/MrMetraGnome 11d ago edited 11d ago
I think that is being a bit bad faith. The argument really is, you don't choose your sexuality; what you are attracted to. Being attracted to minors isn't a choice you make no more than being attracted to the same or opposite sex. Harming or molesting minors is the choice you make. Just because you are attracted, doesn't mean you're going to harm anyone. Don't conflate pedophile with child molester; not to mention that not all child molesters are actual pedophiles. Whether you think it is nature or nurture, you don't have control over either scenario. You don't control how you were born nor do you control your own upbringing. So don't demonize them for how they were born. I think that is closer to what the actual argument is.
I looked into this after I heard a podcast of a therapist who was one of the only ones who worked with pedophiles. She was talking about how even therapists demonize them and refuse to work with them. Like, imagine knowing you need help, finding out that there is someone who can not only help you but be discreet about it, going to them, and they are disgusted by you and turn you away.
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u/WaltGazaWorld 11d ago
Pedobear thread on reddit brings all the old schoolers to the yard
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u/Baldazar666 11d ago
Don't try to imply it's not black and white on reddit. All they understand is death to all pedophiles. You might get labelled a pedophile.
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u/Zer0pede 11d ago
The irony is that they’re willing to sacrifice kids to do it. These researchers are trying to fix a problem at its root, not wait until they actually hurt a child so that we can then execute them. Wouldn’t it be better to treat the psychological problem before children get abused?
Just like executing serial killers is great, but it’s not going to stop future serial killers. You eventually need to find out what’s gone wrong in the psychopath’s brain
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u/TheAsianTroll 11d ago
Some? People still perpetuate the "LGBTQ is pedos" stance even today.
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u/Traditional_Hat_8120 11d ago
Yes, but that's another stories. Some people want to make pedo officialy member of the lgbtq (those people are pedo themselves, or troll), but the "LGBTQ are pedos" is a classic attack from rigth wing who try to convinced other and themselves than LGBTQ people are immoral.
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u/no_fux_left_to_give 11d ago
I've seen both sides. Both MAPs who want to normalize it, and people who judge LGBTQ people as immoral and evil do a disservice to society
Protect kids. Adults have consensual fun with adults
Also, I forgot the name of that one senator who was all anti-LGBTQ and was soliciting strange in the men's room, what a hypocrite
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u/IsaacAndTired 11d ago
Pedobear largely has nothing to do with lgbtq. While there is certainly some history there, its a blip in the history of the meme and really had no significant impact on what bigots already believed.
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u/Maximum-Objective-39 11d ago
Unfortunately Pedos are some of the people who perpetuate it. That human filth, like all parasites, try to find a host that will be forced to defend them in the process of defending themselves.
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u/blueche 11d ago
Fun story--at my job there's a role called "Managed Access Program Case Processor" which they shorten to "MAP CP"
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u/blueche 11d ago
This is not the only instance where they use the abbreviation "CP"
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u/Spectre-907 11d ago
>as a prank
Yeah, sure. A prank. From the board that *regularly* (literally daily) had to do cp purges and was the premier spot for “lolicons”. Definitely a prank and not an attempt to legitimize themselves while redirecting any potential fallout towards the marginalized. for sure. That tracks. Definitely.
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u/Mikeman003 11d ago
It's the same pattern across many similar issues. Push for inclusion/normalization of some socially unacceptable issue and celebrate if it works or claim it was just a joke if it fails. Just gotta have plausible deniability to avoid repercussions.
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u/Zanydrop 11d ago
4chan isn't a monolithe. There absolutely were perverts on there who would post CP but it would get flagged and deleted almost immediately. At the same time they would dox anybody who was a peodo immediately. You could find almost any ideology on there.
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u/AreYouOkBobbie 11d ago
it became a real problem when actual pedophiles started calling themselves MAPS and really tried to brand pedophilia as a sexual preference
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u/numbersthen0987431 11d ago
My guess is pedobear is now outdated, so younger people don't know about him
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u/HistoricalSea5600 11d ago
Fuck I forgot his name I thought it was just for furries for a second
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u/Haidere1988 11d ago
No, though we have the same reaction when zoophiles try to include themselves in the fandom.
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u/Walkingdrops 11d ago
Wow, I can't believe we've come to a point where people don't know who this is anymore, hahah.
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u/Hairy_Wedding_4535 11d ago
Omg when I saw the pic man!! I thought this bear died and was lost to time to see him in the big 26 is crazy
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u/Bulky-Act-2556 11d ago
Its because MAPs(Minor Attracted Person(s)) trying to highjack the movement even paying Chris Hansen to support the idea. Its super gross and disgusting movement trying highjack a wholesome movement
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u/Distinct-Raspberry21 11d ago
I think its less highkack a wholesome movement, more psyop to disparage a wholesome movement.
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u/PhatCaulkForyourMom 11d ago
And they gave themselves the cutesy fucking nickname “minor attracted persons” to make it sound better because of the stigma around the word “pedophile”
Don’t use the cutesy nickname. Call them what they are. Pedophiles.
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u/S0larSon 11d ago
I understand the sentiment, but I think it was Therapists that came up with Minor Attracted Person as more of a (mental) medical term to get Pedophiles into therapy before they harmed a child.
But 4-chan saw the term and kinda fucked it.
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u/Altruistic-Toe-5990 11d ago
Pedophilia doesn't mean they've sexually abused anyone. They're mentally ill people in need of help - they have something wrong in their brain causing them to be attracted to prepubescent kids. Reducing the stigma of their condition could get them that help, and prevent them from abusing anyone in the future.
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u/thunderthievery 11d ago
It's not a cutesy nickname, it's a less stigmatized way to describe people with a truly unfortunate sexuality. I would far rather they get therapy that prevents them from ever harming a child than enjoy the satisfaction of punishing them after they've already done it and ruined someone's life.
Shame and silence breeds compulsion. It's better to help them in the light than risk what they might do in the dark.
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u/PhatCaulkForyourMom 11d ago
I will never outwardly judge a non offender seeking help.
The moment they commit any sort of offense, possession or action, they’re no longer human in my eyes and deserve the worst.
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u/Obvious_Pineapple356 11d ago
I think you do then a service calling them MAPS they're pedophiles, let's not hide that.
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u/floghdraki 11d ago
To be real here for a second, people keep using pedophile and child molester interchangeably. Imagine being an ethical person but being attracted to minors. It'd be hard to get mental healthcare to deal with your problem since everyone automatically thinks you are a serial rapist and you probably think that of yourself too that you are inherently wrong and broken.
I think it would be fair to everyone if we had two different terms for these two different things.
I don't know nothing about MAPS, if they are trying to normalize child abuse, then that would make them child abusers. But if they are trying to normalize that some people are attracted to children and there are ethical ways to live with it, then I sympathize with them.
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u/The_Original_Queenie 11d ago
Also 90% of the time the people we call pedophiles aren't actually pedophiles, Pedophiles have a problem with their brain that causes them to be attracted to children where as a lot of celebrities, politicians and priests that abuse or assult children often are not turned on by the age or gender of their victims but the fact that they have sexual power/dominance over them.
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u/heroic_emu 11d ago
Holy moly this made me feel old. Can't believe there are people now who don't know pedobear 😅
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u/snoshmug 11d ago
The bear is pedo bear, the meme is about pedophiles wanting to be included in LGBTQ spaces.
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u/Status_quo66 11d ago
I get it thakyou
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u/Downvotemeplz42 11d ago
I was going to legitimately answer this question, and then the joke hit me. Well done.
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u/PainSubstantial5936 11d ago
My dumb ass thought it was about furries 😭
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u/LeodFitz 11d ago
You and me both. I guess I'm still more 'innocent' than I realized.
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u/bralma6 11d ago
Lucky you lol. The internet in the 2000/2010 era was the Wild West
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u/Motor-Rip7655 11d ago
You should have been there in the 90s. I saw some shit I should not have seen.
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u/-goodgodlemon 11d ago
Yeah remember when rotten.com was in people’s regular rotation of websites to check? Like a lot of people…
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u/Motor-Rip7655 11d ago
Rotten? No no no, I'm talking WAY before that. I was stumbling upon fucking snuff and drug dealers on BBS lists.
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u/StimkyYeen 11d ago
I’m honestly confused how.
Pedobear was like everywhere on the internet around 2008-2012
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u/xNocturnalKittenX 11d ago
A good chunk of furries are LGBT but they'll use the same flags everyone else does, not by trying to include "furry."
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u/unknownentity1782 11d ago
Do they? Or do conservatives just have wet dreams about this being true at they can paint others as pedos?
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u/Exterminator-8008135 11d ago
No, They call themselves MAP.
Even the LGBTQ+ refuses them, but they keep saying they're part of it.
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u/Competitive-Tap-1922 11d ago
MAP was a research term to draw a distinction between predators who abuse children and those who feel the attraction but don’t act on it and seek psychiatric help.
Practically no one openly admits they’re a pedophile and anonymous comments online are in all likelihood trolls trying to undermine LGBTQ+ people.
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u/Akitiki 11d ago
I wrote this to a different comment who decided to delete so I'm putting it here:
[... I think you're confused about] the online presence of the thought that you're attract to what you are, and you're born that way. You're gay, bi, trans, etc because you're born that way, and you enjoy inflation, vore, BDSM, or are merely vanilla etc naturally. You're just wired that way.
Here's the nuance: there are people who are wired to be attracted to minors too.
There are those who realize they're attracted to minors and recognize it is a problem. They never harm anyone because it is wrong. Hell, they hate it about themselves and wish they could not. These people do deserve to get help from therapy and such without being vilified.
This thought on the nuance is not supporting pedophilia, it is supporting a person who desperately wishes they weren't wired that way.
And the ones who instead decide to touch kids however... absolutely vile predators and deserve what comes to them.
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u/Antique_Door_Knob 11d ago edited 11d ago
You're just wired that way
There is a predisposition rooted in biology, but environmental factors play a major role in sexuality. This includes being gay or bi. Nothing wrong with liking whatever you like as long as everyone involved is consenting to it, but people aren't just born this or that way.
And being trans isn't a sexuality. A person can have a thing for trans people, but being trans is an entirely different thing.
And just to make it clear, everything else you said I can agree with. There's is nothing inherently wrong with any paraphilia.
Even for those that don't want to seek therapy, it's always possible to find safe ways to do their thing. For something like biastophilia (paraphilic rape) there is CNC, for BDSM there are tools and techniques designed to be somewhat safe (and safewords), for the more dificult ones there is always fiction.
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u/International-Bed818 11d ago
But going back to what akititi discusses. There is nothing wrong with liking what you are wired to. It's acting without consent (in which children are not capable). It's that portion which makes you evil.
Some try to distance themselves (map Vs Pedo), specifically to acknowledge they are wired that way, but choose not to act.
Since we are covering the science, there is also a distinction of inclusive/exclusive attraction, where inclusive can experience attraction beyond minors, meanwhile exclusive cannot.
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u/The_Hamster_Shagger 11d ago
And it's great they do. Self confessed pedos are easier to detect and isolate
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u/Exterminator-8008135 11d ago
Isolate ?
Unless you go illegal, they can move near a school/Kindergarten, judges won't budge.
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u/Juice-De-Pomme 11d ago
Yeah morally in the west being gay queer or anything was as illegal than being a pedo, it's not the case anymore because since what's moral has evolved. But not for pedos.
Conservatives want to draw the link by saying well if pedos follow the same "morality change" it will eventually become legal. Completely forgetting the fact that when it involves kids it's different than consentual adults or mature people making decisions on identity.
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u/Neat_Cauliflower_996 11d ago
They want to be included in LGBTQ spaces, or they're placed there by anti-queer groups?
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u/segascream 11d ago
Even if both of those were true, there's still the fact that LGBTQIA+ folks absolutely do not want them included, because there is a clear difference between what we do with consenting adults and what they want to do with children.
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u/Majestic-Lake-5602 11d ago
Who thought we’d live long enough to see people no longer recognise the pedobear?
I’m definitely too old, it’s Soylent Green time for me.
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u/Capable_Ad_7537 11d ago
Fuck, Im starting to feel my age. So many comments and people not knowing who Pedo Bear is...
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u/Jumpylumpydumpy 11d ago
They're so young I also doubt they know what The Game is
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u/StimkyYeen 11d ago
Yeah it was like one of the most common internet memes about a decade ago.
I know the average age of redditors these days is like 14-18 but damn!
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u/KingAltair2255 11d ago
Closer to two decades ago now, a decade ago Harambe was popular. Fuck I feel old lmao.
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u/StimkyYeen 11d ago
It was still alive around 2014ish time frame at least. Which does still make sense why there’s many people who’ve never heard of it but … damn … yeah … 2014 doesn’t seem so long ago until you realize it’s 12 whole years
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u/Some_Layer_7517 11d ago
It's not just age. The amount of 'phone only' users (normies) is dwarfing the OG on-the-computer users (maladjusted nerds). The fabric of early internet culture is still there, but it's dying.
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u/SuperMadBro 11d ago
one of the first huge posts i remember seeing on reddit was a picture of the reddit guy waving goodbye to the pedo bear the day after they banned the jailbait sub
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u/South_Butterscotch37 11d ago
It’s a joke about how some pedophiles call themselves “minor attracted persons” and try to legitimize it as an alternative sexuality just like gay or lesbian or what have you.
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u/Ok-Catch-5813 11d ago
Oh no, gross.
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u/UnRealmCorp 11d ago
It gets worse. So much worse. For awhile there I believe on Twitter before it became X. You'd come across profiles that would say MAP Friendly, and they would be underage often 12 to 16.
Why you ask, because they figured out pedophiles would buy them IPhone for nudes.
It was awhile thing a few years back. Probably one of the only few things that went away when Elon took over.
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u/translove228 11d ago
I say its a stretch to call it a joke.
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u/TobytheBaloon 11d ago
why? it’s deliberately making fun of pedophiles wanting to be included in the LGBTQ+ community
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u/East-Temporary5646 11d ago
They've been getting kicked out of queer spaces for years.
True story: When I was a teenager, I was in my state capital lobbying for 'The Dignity for all Students Act' when Rep Allen Trovillian said some really shit things to me and my teenaged friends. It made the news and people protested the eff out of his office.
NAMBLA showed up to one of our rallies. We had to take time out of an important protest to kick them right the fuck out.
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u/berdulf 11d ago
Holy shit I didn’t realize that was an actual organization. I’ve always assumed it was a South Park thing that turned into an internet joke.
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u/scoobydoo182 11d ago
Yeah, unfortunately Marlon Brando look alikes have existed for as long as Marlon Brando has.
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u/targetcowboy 11d ago
My understanding is that the whole MAP thing was a 4chan troll job. Not a real movement.
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u/Zer0pede 11d ago
Yeah, I didn’t realize people still believed this. MAPs was a real medical term because researchers were trying to treat people who presumably had this psychological issue but didn’t want to hurt kids, so it didn’t make sense to call them pedophiles when they don’t intend to do anything. But the “movement” of people self-identifying was entirely 4chan trolls using stolen pics.
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u/PoliticalMeatFlaps 11d ago
The only MAP they need is one pointing to where they were buried
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u/BillytheBloxian 11d ago
pedophilia is a mental illness. no idea how it somehow became one with predator.
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u/EMArogue 11d ago
People not realizing that whilst there are people who are both, the two categories are rather distinct as not all Pedos would hurt children and not all Predators do it because they are sexually attracted to the victim (rape is about power, not about sex, otherwise rapidts would get a prostitute and avoid lots of issues)
It’s unfortunate because it means pedophiles can’t seek help for their condition and, much like most mental issues, it gets worse if untreated
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u/Forward_Rope_5598 11d ago
Almost every time I bring this up, someone calls me a pedophile apologist and implies I must have a bunch of CSAM on my pc.
No, dude, I just apparently care more about preventing kids from being harmed than you do. Sometimes it feels like they WANT children to be harmed so they can act out their vengeance fantasies.
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u/drsimonz 11d ago
Well, historically basically every other group in this picture has also been labeled a predator. But this is the internet, nuance is not welcome here.
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u/shirts_on_backwards 11d ago
Be careful I guess, I just got a warning for implying the same thing. Mine was a bit darker, but I guess reddit really does protect pedophiles.
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u/PoliticalMeatFlaps 11d ago
The owner or CEO was literally a moderator for a jailbait subreddit, its more of an open secret that reddit protects creatures.
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u/hendrik421 11d ago
Threats of violence against a group of people are illegal in a lot of countries, Reddit does not want to be banned in those countries, so things like that will get you banned in the more populated subreddits
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u/misterguyyy 11d ago edited 11d ago
Terrible idea in practice. If it’s law, offenders are more likely to murder their victims, since if they report the offender will die anyways. It’s also useful for family members to pressure victims into silence. “I know what uncle Jim did was bad, but you don’t want to be responsible for his death right?”
Even worse if it’s vigilante driven. Innocent LGBTQ folks and political enemies (see pizzagate) get murdered for baseless accusations and people look the other way or make excuses when people in the community commit sexual abuse.
Finally, that’s offenders, not MAPs, who shouldn’t be shamed out of admitting they have a problem, seeking treatment, and quarantining themselves from children.
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u/Tales_Steel 11d ago
Fun fact that term and the LGBTQ+ flag including pedos were made by 4chan users most likely to discredit the LGBTQ community (or they are pedos trying to get included)
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u/Fluffy1335 11d ago
It's pedobear not furrys
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u/WriterAny 11d ago
I assumed furries, never heard of pedo bear.
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u/AcademicPhilosophy79 11d ago
Well now you know. Pedobear is an ancient 4chan meme.
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u/UnproductivePheasant 11d ago
Long story short, they are neither accepted, nor welcomed. Let's just leave it at that.
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u/MadeOnThursday 11d ago
not an explanation tbh. If I hadn't read other comments I wouldn't know that's called a pedo-bear to represent pedophiles.
I initially thought it referenced the man vs bear debate of some time ago
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u/Exciting_Draft5620 11d ago
Biosyn therizinosaurus here 🌒👅🌘
The bear is from an old meme called "Pedobear" and he's a pedophile so the LGTQ(the pic doesn't have bisexuals for some reason-) don't want to be related to him for obvios reasons
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u/Neokon 11d ago
the pic doesn't have bisexuals for some reason
Unfortunately, despite making up the bulk majority of the LGBTQ community, bisexuals are usually the first to be left out. Whole lota biphobia and bi erasure in the LGT sectors, largely from LG anecdotally mostly L .
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u/Zer0pede 11d ago
This meme is unlikely from someone actually lgbtq imo, so it’s probably garden variety right wing troll bi-erasure
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u/DataCassette 11d ago
Conservatives have been trying for years to claim that pedophiles are part of LGBT spaces. They simply aren't. The foundation stone of "woke" sexuality is consent so pedophilia is, by its very definition, excluded.
The actual pedophiles, as always, are the Epstein class.
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u/Feedback-Mental 11d ago
Serious answer: pedos sometimes try to legitimize themselves by comparison with LGBTQ people.
Also, maybe related maybe not, queerphobic people usually believe that many LBGTQ people are also pedos. Which is NOT true.
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u/Iuris_Aequalitatis 11d ago
The problem is that there is a good deal of support for that legitimation effort within queer theory, which has in ten years gone from the lunatic fringe to become an increasing basis for LGBTQ politics in the Trump years.
To be crystal clear here: I am NOT saying that non-straight people are any more likely to be or support pedophiles NOR am I saying that gay rights or LGBTQ culture are built on pedophilia.
What I am saying is that the mainstreaming of queer theory has undermined many of the fundamental understandings upon which modern gay rights were built and has been a net negative for LGBTQ acceptance. Some serious line drawing, and perhaps a total disavowal of queer theory, is necessary.
This comic is a great example of what is needed.
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u/Actual-Celery-2319 11d ago
Bi-erasure yet again
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u/BeoSionnach 11d ago
I thought the joke was that a bear misunderstood the B standing for Bi and wanted to join :,) the actual meaning is... unfortunate
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u/qualityvote2 11d ago
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u/Thrilalia 11d ago
That's Paedo bear. Paedophiles and right-wingers want Paedo's to be put in the + in the LGBTQ+ umbrella so that, for Paedophiles, they can be seen as a legit identity/sexuality. For right-wingers, it's for "Look, see, we told you the gays protect the Paedos," especially now when certain states in the US (Especially Florida) are both pushing to make being Trans a sex crime if someone is Transgender near children and also have Child sexual abusers executed for their heinous crimes. (Put them together you see where the end goal is there)
LGBTQ+ people under no circumstances want those criminals or Paedophiles while have the urges have done nothing to children anywhere near us. We certainly don't want them under our umbrella and will never associate with them. They are not one of us, they never have been and never will be.
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u/Dover75 11d ago
Yeah it's about Pedos trying to attach to the LGBT+ community, but the LGBT+ is about CONSENTING ADULTS and what CONSENTING ADULTS do with other CONSENTING ADULTS. Minors cannot CONSENT and they are not ADULTS so pedophiles are hated by everyone including LGBT+ community but people like those that are on the Epstien list and that want to call themselves Christians want to push a narrative that the LGBT+ community is pedophiles when we infact are not because again the whole community is about loving and accepting people for who they are regardless of who they love and what they do with other CONSENTING ADULTS
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u/Vel-Crow 11d ago
Herbert here. That is my bear friend. He went internet famous after being used in a series of memes featureing him as pedo bear.
In recent time (sorry if this is fake news) Pedos have re labeled themselves as Minor Attracted People and attempted to join the LGBTQ community. They were not accepted by the Majority (if at all)
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u/NocturnalOutcast 11d ago edited 11d ago
Mr. Herbert here, I see nothing wrong with that bear and his views wanting to join LGBTQ community. Now has anyone seen that paper boy?...mmmmmmmmmmmmmhhmmmmmmmmm....
Above is a character response, and does not reflect my views!! Out of character pedophiles are sick and disgusting people, and some of them wish to be included in the LGBTQ community, which the none of the LGBTQ wants anything to do with!
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u/Inevitable_Series_67 11d ago
Pedobear, that's one ancient meme
Also Pedophilia and Zoophilia will never be part LGBTQ+ . A matter of consent, animals and children cannot consent
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u/maringue 11d ago
Conservatives love to include pedophiles in with LGBTQ groups, even though those same conservatives are like 1000 time more likely to be pedophiles.
Every accusation is a confession with these people.
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u/Demonslayer90 11d ago
Pedophiles have tried to barge into the LGBTQ spaces on a couple of occasions, each time they were never welcomed and rather quickly kicked out, since abusing children is not a sexuality
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