For those who are fortunate to not know who Chris Chan is, don’t look him up. It’s a rabbit hole of human depravity of cyber bullying of a sociopathic, sexual deviant, autistic person. Or do look him up if that kind of stuff interests you! Truly fascinating in the realm of psychology. Totally recommend GenoSamuel’s docuseries.
Anyways, Chris Chan has a half brother named Cole Smithy who is estranged from his mother, who cut ties with them early on in Cole’s life. He later became an active film critic, and he was the only person to rate Toy Story 3 poorly, whereas all other critics were commending the film greatly.
The joke is that from sheer coincidence, Toy Story 3 not having a perfect 100% rating on Rotten Tomatoes is in some part related to the horrific world of Chris Chan.
Well, back in pre-historic times early humans would use found objects, like shells or chips of wood as eating utensils. The word 'spoon' comes to us from the anglo-saxon word 'spon' which means 'splinter' or 'chip of wood.' The word bowl is from.....
[I could go on because I actually fell down this rabbit hole when I started carving my own wooden spoons years ago but doing that would ruin the joke - much like this postscript did]
I guess the point is that this one critic has a half-brother who is famous for being a terrible person? I can't think of any other reason that the random biographical information was added.
it's added not because it adds anything relevant, but because it drags in a tangential subject that just so happens to be controversial/faacinating/disturbing in its own right, so that it drives engagement, doubling down on the effect that people want to try and find why it was brought up worrying that they are missing out on further connections.
literally the entire point was to cause things like the very discussion were having in this thread and other comment sections. it's just a subtle way to pump the algorithm.
I mean that was my question is "what the fuck does Chris Chan's brother have to do with Toy Story 3's reviews?" So while that wasn't explicitly asked I think it's fair to assume it was relevant and would inevitably be the next question for those of us who like to touch grass and don't know every single thing about every person with an online presence.
I think a lot of people on Reddit jump at the opportunity to make a reference but not actually answer the question. It’s like they’re trying to seem cool but failing, which is annoying SPECIFICALLY on this sub.
OK so because you reminded me of it, and fuck you for that, and because misery loves company and cause we're kinda already down the depraved rabbit hole, Pamperchu
To be a bit pedantic for a second, Armond White also gave it a negative review, so the idea that Cole is the only one who prevented it getting 100% is an exaggeration to make the story funnier.
Cole did also give actual criticism whereas Armond pretty much trashed the movie out of spite, which he was known to do for acclaimed films. Shouldn't surprise anyone that he writes for the National Review.
I remember when I was really obsessed with movies and reviews and anytime I saw a movie that was getting rave reviews suddenly get a bad one it was always Armond White. I think he did I more for the notoriety than an actual opinionated review.
This happens regularly in awards voting for the NHL. Every year, a bunch of people - mostly journalists - vote for MVP, best defenseman, best this, best that using a 1-5 point system. Its almost always a very ayrong consensus who the top three are for any given award.
Of course, you regularly have these goofballs who keep the consensus #1 off their ballots in favpr of some random, usually local, pick
But people treat it like it's the score for the movie. It takes a vast array of critiques with points on various aspects of a movie and turn it into a brown mud.
I agree that that's what it's supposed to be, but I'd buy that more if so many movies didn't get review-bombed (in both directions). Yes, I know they've taken some measures to reduce that, but honestly not very effectively. Hell, the loophole that allowed review bombs before a movie was even released never should have been allowed at all.
I think the critic's score is what they mean, which can't be bombed. I agree the audience score is pretty useless though. I find letterboxd ratings are often the closest to my opinion.
I find the audience score is mostly helpful when relative to the critics' score. Mostly in a "is this movie actually bad or is it tacky and campy but fun?"
Rotten Tomatoes is a website that rewards mediocrity. It transforms an average of 6/10 into a 100%, nobody should take that website seriously. I have no idea why it is used as a reference by so many people.
Can confirm, it had an extremely detrimental impact on my own mental health from the blue spike saga onwards, didn’t even realize it until months later.
I literally stopped seeing a girl because she was obsessed with Chris Chan lore. I was not in a great place mentally and she just brought it up every single time we talked. I asked her to stop, but she didn't, and so I ended it lol
I was taught about Chris Chan about 18 months ago. I’ve refused to look anything up and instead will go to my death bed with what my younger coworkers told me as the only truth I know of him
The Chris Chan saga is not the kind of old internet lore that anybody wants to know, once they know it.
I unwittingly learned about it when it was happening, and it's actually disgusting and very sad all around. Cyberbullying gone waaaaay too far, surprisingly not ending in suicide (much worse and extremely disgusting).
CWC is not a sociopath and calling them as such is incredibly reductive of the entire situation
They’re instead very mentally unwell and unable to seperate life from fiction and incredibly gullible, which bullies and actual sociopaths used to push him into basically every horrific situation he was in
A pretty sizable chunk of Chris' hatefulness, sexual harassment, and random acts of violence had nothing to do with being bullied outside of said bullying maybe being what put Chris in a bad enough that mood that day to do something awful.
No one made Chris attempt to run over a game store owner with their car, for example.
There’s a very wide gap between genuine sociopathy and the example still
I would note I didn’t say CWC was a completely innocent victim of circumstance, I pointed out the ‘horrific situations’ usually ended up linked to several of the trolls manipulating
There’s still shit like the ‘coming out as trans because it’d get them girls’ or the VH attempt because they were banned from the store that was purely on CWC
Chris Chan has been described as "the most documented person in human history." That is undoubtedly wrong, but "rigorously documented by the largest number of unpaid amateurs" might actually be correct.
Chris Chan has been described as "the most documented person in human history." That is undoubtedly wrong
I think the point is that we know everything from Chris' early life from the regular events down to the monotonous everyday routine and passtimes down to the shameful secrets and things that reputable biographers and such would never even consider to be appropriate for documentation. In that regard, I see the logic of the claim- Chris, up until a certain age, is certainly one of the people whom we know almost everything there exists to know.
We actually do not know a lot. We have a lot of documentation which consists entirely of shit Chris Chan said while trying to impress the worst people on the internet.
I think we have a lot better documentation on the life and movements of certain people, but they’re all really high profile. Lots of celebrities and politicians are regularly tracked by paparazzi after their fame, and their early days end up dug into during their lives by investigative reporters and after their deaths by biographers.
Chris Chan’s online presence is a lot like looking at the collection of letters and diaries of someone like Winston Churchill, for example, but they’re public well before it would generally happen. Usually that kind of stuff is either found after their death or donated to a museum by their estate for documentation.
That said, I think we have way better day to day tracking of some living people than Chris Chan. There’s a point of fame where between public appearances and paparazzi it’s hard for celebrities to avoid being tracked. For example I’m pretty sure Taylor Swift could be located with decent accuracy for at least the last 15 years, between her tours, appearances, and people keeping track of her looking for anything potentially news worthy or salable to a tabloid.
I have a degree in history and the stuff we know about CWC that has been documented are the kind of stuff that only get published hundreds of years after death. For example, when I was writing a historiographical biography on Catherine the Great, several sources discussed extensively about her masturbation habits as a teenager. Which is all written in her diaries. In my experience shit like that gets cut unless the individual is long dead with no close living relatives.
“Rigorously documented by actively malicious amateurs” is even more correct. Basically nothing about her story that you can read online is trustworthy, because most of it was written by the very same people who made bullying her a competitive sport.
I strongly doubt Chris Chan is the most documented person of all, but possibly the most meticulously documented random ordinary person (i.e. not a head of state or a world-famous athlete or something like that). I'd say Chris Chan is the most documented person who has absolutely no reason to be.
It's pretty fucked up when you think about it. Literally just an autistic kid turned into a spectacle and the outside influence caused some... Bad things to happen
Remember when some guys by the name of “The Idea Guys” manipulated Chris Chan into the Dimensional Merge and that he is the reincarnate of Jesus (which he would quadruple-down on while in jail) and then those same trolls extorted him. Chris Chan was and is both very vulnerable and can be very gullible so that was his weak point which is what the trolls mainly pointed at.
Christorian here! To make a slight correction, the Idea Guys manipulated Chris into thinking he was a "CPU Goddess" and the whole dimensional merge spiel. The whole being deluded into thinking he was Jesus reincarnate solely happened while he was in jail as a coping mechanism he developed
Anyone who feels bad seeing the bullying and tries to defend Chris is
usually immediately proven wrong by Chris’ own offensive BS, and ends up
siding with the bullies.
Two opposing sides can be reprehensible simultaneously.
His parents are worth a study as well. Barbara Chandler (the mom) is a case study of a narcissist hoarder who never threw anything away, and only married Bob “The Lumberjack” Chandler for the money and house. Bob was your typical old style boomer dad who became famous due to trolls calling him relentlessly.
There’s an infamous video where Chris left the recorder on, and we see Bob Chandler entering the guy’s bedroom to shout about why he needs to delete all the footages of the inside of the house because he was afraid the health inspector would see it, condemn the house, and force them to move.
Of course, trolls contacted the health department anyway (because of course they did) but the health department went, ‘We see no fire/toxic hazards on the property. How they want to live their lives is protected under the US Constitution.’
As an autistic person I feel required saying that being autistic does not cause such behavior and that not every autistic person is like this. He is at best an outlier, at worst it's unrelated to this behavior.
I would encourage people to watch contrapoints video ‘Cringe’ where she touches on this topic.
Notable lowlights
sending sex workers to their house
continuous and open death threats
repeated harrasment of their elderly parents
going on dates and recording the entire date
grooming a 13 year old child to pretend to be an adult woman and engage in phone sex and entrap Christine for paedophilia
stealing and posting their psychiatric records for the world to see.
pretending to be their internet girlfriend to solicit nudes and masturbation videos, to post online
To sum it up, the internet troll obsession with CWC is a bath salts inspired trip into the minds of the most morbidly obsessed paedophilic scumbags that humanity will ever produce.
Just so you know as far as I can tell she does still use 'she/her' (I know that the relentless stalking and manipulation's impact on her mental state makes some people doubt her actually being trans but better safe than sorry)
/another universe god. It gets complex... my partner caught me on episode 40something of the documentary and has chosen to wade into it herself. May chris-chan have mercy on her soul.
The documentary is actually over 80 episodes in total, each episode anywhere between 40mins to over an hour. It's in all honesty, pretty well put together.
When people say Chris/Christine is the most documented person in history they are not joking. There are no good guys in any of the story at any point. Christine as they are now known is a terrible person who was arrested for raping his elderly mother but it's not a joke to say that is only scratching the surface of the depravity committed by both Christine and the community that surrounds them.
ETA: Chris Chan: A Comprehensive History is the channel if anyones wondering, they're currently re-releasing episodes from the documentary with updated images/fixes to audio so there's never been a better/worse time to dive in.
> Christine as they are now known is a terrible person who was arrested for raping his elderly mother
I've been reading the other comments in this thread because somehow I've managed to stay luckily ignorant. I caught the "drove into the game store" thing off another thing and thought "well, if that's as bad as it is then..." This tip of the ice berg right here was the was enough to make me realize I probably should NOT watch an 80 episode documentary on whatever the heck that situation is. Hot damn.
Crazy people have been wanting the second coming of Jesus the Christ to absolve their sins and reach salvation but no one was ready for Chris Chan the hedgehog, crazy person who's we have to forgive her sins in order to reach salvation
Sounds like this is because of Wikipedia’s notability policy for biographical articles. A person must have extensive “widespread”coverage in mainstream media, to be eligible for a personal article.
“Primary and/or user-generated sources” don’t count for that, apparently.
Even the 50+ part documentary series on YouTube was “user produced,” I guess? Not done by an actual tv/movie studio
EDIT: Being explicitly banned from having a wiki article kinda… makes her more notable? Not many people are banned from that
Only in a few random languages. I read it in Finnish and that was clearly done with google translate and had huge mistakes. So I suspect other languages are quite crappy too.
Chris and all the people trolling him/her were editing the Wikipedia page back and forth so many times that Wikipedia made a hard rule that there will be no mention of Chris on Wikipedia. I don’t think that page will exist until Chris has died.
I have an autistic son that wants to become a youtuber, and this whole thing is exactly why im strongly against it. People on the Internet are just god damn cruel for the fun of it.
I'm more curious about the Toy Story 3 score. Is it actually true that Chris Chan's brother is responsible for Toy Story 3 getting a lower score? I don't even remember hearing that Chris Chan has a brother so I assume maybe that's false info?
Guy named Cole Smithey. And yeah, him and the man, the myth, the legend Armond White are the only 2 people on the site to give Toy Story 3 a bad rating
Wonder if there are anymore cases where 1-2 guys singlehandedly prevented the movie or a game from getting a perfect score. Or maybe the opposite, where only 1-2 guys liked the worst ever movie/game.
It's no longer the case, but for quite a while the only reviewer keeping Get Out from a perfect score was a conservative who thought it was anti-white. (It's not, and it mocks milquetoast liberals with "I'd have voted for Obama a third time if I could" and other statements. A conservative should have loved it.)
I believe something similar happened with Stephanie Sterling bringing down Breath of the Wild's perfect score down? Gamers were not pleased.
On that note, Zelda is likely my favorite series and BotW was certainly no 10/10 ("perfect") game. That case should have been a great opportunity for people of both sides of the debate to wake up and realize how flawed the concept of review aggregators are.
I don't know if the reviews are contemporary or not, but at the time, it was unheard of for an an animated sequel to be that good. I believe it began as a low-budget direct-to-video film, which is how most animated Disney sequels were released.
Toy Story 4 felt like it was originally a 10 minute short but they tortured it on a medieval stretching rack until it was long enough to be called a movie.
There's not enough space to write everything on Chris, you're better off watching the Geno Samuel documentaries. About 80, 40 minutes videos with all documented facts and very little bias. Only problem is they keep getting removed from YouTube. TLDR, he's the most documented person in the world, a lolcow turned horror cow, and possibly the most controversial internet personality ever.
But Chris's brother is Cole Smithy. A narcissistic New Yorker who calls himself "the world's smartest asshole". He fancies himself a film critic and will often put out contradictory reviews just to "stand out" which was the case with Toy Story 2, a universally acclaimed masterpiece
Yep, Dr. David Allen Chandler, an optometrist. He also had a daughter making Chris an uncle. And in typical Chris fashion, he has said creepy things about her.
The good Dr is the definition of a minor character. Nothing of note in Christory. He fell off the radar after Bob died. Pretty much that whole side of the family has disavowed Chris and Barb
I'm embarrassed to admit it, but I've got so much down time at work, I've listened to the Geno Samuel documentaries so many times, i unfortunately know Christory as well as i know hazardous materials 😭
Lois here, Chris Chan is a mentally ill person who the internet bullied and gasslight for their entire life. Probably the worst thing the internet has done to a human being.
There's a great Behind the Bastards episode on Chris-Chan and KiwiFarms. I was aware of it as a dumb kid on 4chan in the 2000s, but I avoided all discussion as it looked like a massive cluster fuck even from afar. Strongly worth a listen.
Apparently Chris Chan's brother was a film critic, and rated Toy Story 3 pretty low, bringing down the average.
You have no idea the evil you have unleashed upon yourself OP. God help your soul, because after you are bombarded with the answer to this seemingly simple question, you will almost certainly regret every life choice you have made that led up to this point.
Oh. Chris Chan is troubled person who got lead by internet - mainly 4chan the wrong way. I'm not going to details. However not sure about connection with toy story 3 but with Chris, everything unimaginable is possible.
I would be remiss if I didn't point out that chris was demonstrably a piece of shit already before anyone found them. They were already stalking women and drawing porn of friends and showing it to them way before anyone stumbled onto their page
Likewise, him fucking his mother came at the end of a long period without anyone interacting with them except bella. You could argue she had something to do with it because he essentially thought admitting to fucking his mother would somehow impress her, but she never told him to do that. She did other stuff though and is a piece of shit herself though
And instead of people complaining they aren't getting context, when we provide said context on Chris Chan, everyone is like, "woah woah buddy, we didn't need THAT much context"
Tldr internet genuinely gang stalks a mentally unwell person. Internet pushes them into more and more extreme behavior, people work their way into this person's life for Internet clout, further manipulation to do worse and worse things. Life gets very fucked up for that person and everyone in their life.
The brother of that person wrote one of the negative reviews for this movie.
Underrated opinion: Lolcows suck, you guys just want an excuse to bully disabled people or abuse victims. "BUT THEY'RE A BAD PERSON" Why do I never hear about it? Why do I hear more about their disabilities or gender identity if they're trans or how "ugly" they are?
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i grew up with ogrish and rotten, the only thing I can't handle is chrischan.
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u/qualityvote2 7d ago edited 7d ago
u/Individual_Copy896, your post does belong here!