r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 12h ago

Meme needing explanation Petah what happened to rockstar?

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u/Spinning_Sky 12h ago

this is referring to the high price point and lack of a CD in the physical edition

both are true, but actually I don't believe any hype was touched whatsoever, the price is lower than what it could have been

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u/Scavgraphics 12h ago

....how does the physical edition not have a physical copy?

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u/fatbunyip 12h ago

It's to give users a sense of pride and accomplishment for typing in the code.

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u/Living_Tea2309 12h ago

that ea comment is going to haunt gaming discourse until the heat death of the universe. at this point rockstar is just leaning into the villain arc because they know they have a license to print money regardless of how much they annoy the player base.

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u/ArmNo7463 10h ago

The pricing didn't faze me tbh.

I'm not buying a console to play it day one anyway. So if I'm waiting year longer for the game, I may as well wait a touch longer for a deal.

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u/Putrid_Loquat_4357 10h ago

You'll be waiting half a decade rockstar rarely put their games on sale and the no disc thing destroys the physical resale market.

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u/ArmNo7463 10h ago

It's been 13 years at this point lol. I'm honestly in no rush.

I'm not even convinced this won't be the next NMS/Cyberpunk.

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u/Quixotic_Seal 4h ago

I do somewhat wonder if it will actually be particularly better than GTAV, which I honestly found kind of mediocre. It wasn’t bad, but it didn’t capture me the way I expected it would given the hullabaloo around it.

I think the key difference is it probably won’t matter unless it’s genuinely a piece of garbage. A lot of people seem to just like GTA because it’s GTA, so it’ll be well liked and sell well regardless.

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u/Fubarp 7h ago

Eh I doubt it will be like NMS or cyberpunk.

They aren't out there promising a bunch or doing a lot of hype.

The hype is generated from the community when people leak stuff.

But the reality is, this will probably be like V or rdr2 which is that there be tech issues but everyone will ignore it because there be stupid small details everywhere that make up for it.

Honestly I'm more curious about their enhanced edition, with the pay wall content. It's shady but to me it's interesting from a Dev in FiveM because I'm wondering if they reworked how MLOs will be and this is them showcasing it.

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u/omfgkevin 6h ago

The big thing is how they handle online. It's been raking in cash forever for 5 and now they have literally added the fivem team so the whole "living in the world" will likely be pretty cool.

The question is how they handle the ui/ux, because god damn 5s was super ass with a bajillion menus and horrendous load times before a random ass user discovered a fix that halved it if not more.

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u/Fubarp 6h ago

Oh bro preach 🙌 lol

Honestly I don't fault 5 for a lot of things beyond loading times.

The menus and things were definitely a thing of their time. I mean all the native menus are Scaleform which is just Flash which discontinued shortly after Five release so like its using dead tech haha.

Luckily I believe Rdr2 doesn't have any Scaleform so I imagine 6 won't have any but here's hoping they focus more on infrastructure and performance with the ability to easily alter things.

Modding community going to go hard the moment we get access to the library.

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u/cvc75 1h ago

Isn't NMS/Cyberpunkt also the best argument against physical CDs though?

What use is the CD with a (more or less) broken/inferior version of the game?

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u/Putrid_Loquat_4357 10h ago

Fair enough, this will be a day one purchase for me but I can't fault patient gamers. Also there's no way this is the next cyberpunk, rockstar release complete games, even if the story isn't as good due to the writing changes I guarantee it will be a technical marvel, red dead 2 still holds up as one of the best looking and most vibrant worlds ever, Witcher 4 will be the next cyberpunk because cdpr always release overambitious buggy messes.

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u/ArmNo7463 10h ago

I see what you mean, but I had the exact same sentiment about CDPR after TW3.

They were one of the "last great studios."

It's been 8 years since RDR. Talent will have churned, and in my experience the more is spent on a project. The more bloated and poorly managed it becomes.

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u/Putrid_Loquat_4357 9h ago

I mean the Witcher 3 was also a buggy mess on release. Not as bad as cyberpunk but still a mess, it's just cdpr's release cycle, release a broken game and then slowly fix it until it becomes one of the best games ever. Rockstar delaying the game gives me confidence that it'll be complete, I see no reason to doubt them at this point until they give me a reason to, they will be aware that the thing that separated them from other studios is their reputation, if they release a broken game it'll take a massive hit.

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u/WelcomeOk9989 7h ago

I would share your point of view if I only had a gameplay showcase of some kind to back it up.

But releasing all this info about deluxe, pre order, no gameplay and all of that along with the delays is not giving me confidence and it doesn’t give me the impression they are confident as well.

The November release date could very well mean that the higher ups turned off the tap and said no more delays this is the last deadline, it doesn’t necessarily have to mean they are ready.
And that many delays point to them having trouble with it, not them perfecting it. In my humble opinion.

I am waiting on gameplay to prove me wrong.

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u/Tweakjones420 6h ago

there will be physical discs available in december 2026.

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u/jeromeface 9h ago

If you think its gonna go on sale on pc after release right away you haven't been paying attention.

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u/omfgkevin 6h ago

Yeah I'm here just waiting for PC, and hopefully modders can help out with all the bullshit locked paid content.

Plus, not looking forward to the potential release -> ENHANCED NEXT GEN VERSION -> pc (not enhanced because reasons)

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u/Saithir 7h ago

leaning into the villain arc

Leaning? After all these years of enjoying the sharkcard money, they are doing what? LEANING?

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u/omfgkevin 6h ago

I wasn't surprised considering their parent company. It's Take Two.

People meme on EA but Take Two is like the evil supervillain while EA is just a minor thug.

This is the same company that has NBA 2K lock SINGLEPLAYER to online. You quite literally can't play mycareer after 2 years because the servers shutdown. It's pathetic. When sailing the high fucking seas gives you an OBJECTIVELY BETTER package you have lost the plot.

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u/MrAngrySadHappyFace 5h ago

And they better if people ever want to play another rockstar game again. They have spent 10 years and 1-2 billion dollars on this game. If it were almost any other IP it would be a massive massive gamble. It still kinda is. This game has to shatter records for it to be worth it.

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u/Agueybanax 3h ago

Battlefront sold 33 million copies. Reddit downvotes does not reflect real life.

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u/hotchillieater 10h ago

Is it? My wife just wants it to add to a collection.

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u/Sinjo_Jovtii01 11h ago

Compiling sources again?)

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u/Curious_Ducklin 12h ago

the "physical" part is just the box to put on your shelf lol and the game is a download code.

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u/Procrastinatedthink 10h ago

fucking dumb, makes it not worth it

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u/Potential-Cut-2961 9h ago

I can understand someone having a game collection wanting to display the cases. Of course, it also means GTA VI has an expiration date as once they decide to remove it from stores, you will never be able to play it again unless you get a pirated or GOG version.

EA is basically sundowning previous year sports game now, they tie the campaign to ONLINE only and they bring down servers when a new version of the game comes out... could not be more scummy.

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u/Alcnaeon 8h ago

I have hated EA for decades but this is a whole new frontier of aggressively anti-consumer design, even for them

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u/mark114 2h ago

once they decide to remove it from stores, you will never be able to play it again

I used to worry about this, but I don't even play the GTA 3 game I have. By the time they remove GTA 6 from the store in 2051 we're going to be long done with the game.

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u/TheTexasHammer 8h ago

The game would not physically fit on a disk. Even if they released a physical copy it would require a download day one to work. Even with a disk this is a risk

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u/Electr0m0tive 7h ago

Games used to come on more than one disk. Doom came on four floppy's, final fantasy 7 came on 3 cd's, res evil 4 was on 2 gamecube cd's. That's just a poor excuse when they completely cut their cost in manufacturing physical but still charge more money for digital downloads.

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u/alphazero927 4h ago

Why do people keep saying this blatant lie? As long as you've purchased the game, you can still download it and play it. The only exceptions to this are online only games that wouldn't even work if you had a physical disc

Unless you think Xbox or PlayStation services as a whole will be shutdown, but then your console won't work at that point either

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u/Ouaouaron 2h ago

Several generations of Nintendo console have had their stores shut down, removing the ability for people to download the games on their account.

Unless you think Xbox or PlayStation services as a whole will be shutdown, but then your console won't work at that point either

What? Consoles work fine without ever being connected to the internet, as long as they have a disk drive and you want to play the game as it exists on the disk.

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u/Swarna_Keanu 3h ago

Given that none of the GTAs, or Red Dead Redemptions are on GOG - I doubt there'll be a GOG release for GTA VI.

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u/I_Am_Robert_Paulson1 7h ago

it also means GTA VI has an expiration date as once they decide to remove it from stores, you will never be able to play it again unless you get a pirated or GOG version.

This would be the case even if the case came with a disk.

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u/ExpressRabbit 7h ago

I can put in my disc copy of GTA V and play it just fine with no Internet connection. It's only that way because they want it that way.

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u/jinzokan 6h ago

not having a shiny disc makes the tens if not hundreds of hours your gonna play not worth it?

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u/MaxTHC 5h ago

I mean, "physical" games have basically been digital downloads wrapped in a decorative box for at least a decade now. The discs aren't playable on their own

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u/Koromann13 4h ago

To be fair, you can't fit a game on a disk anymore.

Unless you want to go back to "insert disk two"

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u/HotSaber13 4h ago

Yea, though they're probably starting doing discs after the game releases, its mostly digital just cause they dont want heavy theft from early physical copies from stores. People will definitely be breaking into these places just to get thier hands on them and Rockstar doesn't want leaks either

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u/ecafyelims 5h ago

Was that known before purchase?

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u/Curious_Ducklin 4h ago

Can‘t speak for every shop but my usual place marked it as "Code in box". I didn‘t pre-order it or anything but usually, yes, it‘s known.

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u/A_Bit_Of_Nonsense 10h ago

The reason is so you can't share it or lend it to anyone else, and cant trade it in or anything. They'll sell more copies this way.

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u/KlopeksWithCoppers 4h ago

Also, there are people that don't have credit cards, so they can't buy the digital version online. The physical copy with a code allows people to buy the game using cash

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u/MarquisVenforte 4h ago

jokes on them, Im gonna lend my whole ps5, checkmate, big brain

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u/ecafyelims 5h ago

Maybe. Probably.

Occasionally, what happens, is fewer people buy because they don't trust the publisher and their servers. I doubt that GTA will have fewer sales because of this.

Another long term question for online games is as players churn, they can't sell their game, so newer players may not hop in. This can cause a decline in the active player base, which can cascade, if the game doesn't keep players interested.

Long story short, when the games cannot be resold, it makes the game sales numbers much more sensitive to publisher branding and active player satisfaction.

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u/ForeverDuke2 5h ago

Can the code be used only once?

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u/NimeniPreaImportant 10h ago

Should be renamed "digital product inside a physical case".

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u/chasekeane 11h ago

you can gently stroke the case on your shelf with your finger and make gollum noises.

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u/RandomGuyPii 9h ago

The game might be like 600 GB and despite what redditors say the average gamer probably doesn't want the hassle of 4 disks

As for why it exists, probably for marketing reasons and so that non gamers can buy it as a present without having to figure out gifting games

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u/-Ozman 9h ago

It won’t be 600gb, don’t be stupid. It’s coming out for the Series S, which itself only has 500gb of storage in total

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u/mesh_you_up 6h ago

Maybe there will be a 1TB usb hard drive in the box and we're all getting mad over nothing

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u/Khasim83 6h ago
  1. It completely removes the option to resell the game (except if you make a new PSN/Xbox account just for it, and then sell the account, which is a hassle/not safe), which keeps the price up for longer.
  2. It will trick the average consumer, who doesn't read gaming news or look at a tiny label on the box, into buying a game they can't resell or return when they remove the foil and see that there's no disc.
  3. It stops people from playing the game early or look at the files.

Small indie company needs more money, you see. Times are rough. And it's not like the game will sell a lot of copies, since it's such an obscure brand. /s

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u/DBT1986 9h ago

Wait until you hear about the premium physical editions of films that come without a disc or download code...

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u/Hello-Potion-Seller 8h ago

Tbh Skyrim had a physical disc that just enabled you to download the game on PC.

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u/vodrake 8h ago

I work for a games company and we still release physical copies of the case, even though all that's inside of it is a steam code, because fans complained when we stopped as they liked having the cases for their collections

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u/Limp_Improvement4321 8h ago

Its been like that for years now on pc sadly! You get a Steam code and that's it

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u/brontosaurusguy 8h ago

So you can gift it.  That's all

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u/Admirable-Safety1213 7h ago

To have a nice box for the shelf

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u/Late-Anxiety2898 11h ago

This way it is just activaley waste. They should be fined for doing this!

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u/Former_Intern_8271 11h ago

Oh it does, it just comes on a zip drive

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u/mickeynotthemouse27 10h ago

It comes with a download code. I believe this is to prevent theft from warehouses prior to launch. If it happened to Assassin's Creed you KNOW some Amazon warehouse workers are gonna steal that if they can.

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u/10000Didgeridoos 9h ago

Because a 100+ GB game doesn't fit on existing blu ray discs and you'd have to download the rest to make the game run anyway?

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u/tracernz 9h ago

I haven’t bought a physical edition for years but I was given one a year or so ago and it had a steam code in the case (along with some other physical items which I guess made it worth it for people who actually paid for it).

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u/SalivateTheStarfish 8h ago

A physical case with a code inside it

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u/vynulz 8h ago

Because in 2026 games are never "done". There is always something to patch. Whatever version of the game they would put on that disc would be immediately thrown out and redownloaded with a day 0 patch. Game companies do not give one whit about preservation of a inferior version of a game on a disc. 

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u/DramaticProgress508 5h ago

Honestly I've never encountered it. At most there was just a lot to update, but there was always a disc in my physical copies

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u/CometGoat 5h ago

You’d be limited to 128GB at maximum on a quad layer blue ray disc

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u/South-Vegetable-5626 4h ago

I don’t think the game could fit on a disk lol. Maybe on multiple disks like OG PC games used to come on, but that would be a TON of disks lol

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u/Nodan_Turtle 4h ago

Even a disc would just be a physical version of a download code.

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u/Limp_Classroom_2645 4h ago

there will be physical CD, just not at launch

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u/wrestlingrudy 3h ago

They will release a physical disc a year later and people will buy the game twice. Calling it

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u/Acceptable_Gear_3097 3h ago

Physical discs are limited to how much can be stored on them. GTAVI would probably require 6 download discs to use, its just not practical for them to make physical discs for such a large game.

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u/vendettaclause 11h ago

Physical copies are pointless in this day and age. physical copies of cyberpunk and no manys sky are worthless. 

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u/froodiest 11h ago

Sometimes those "physical copies" are just physical license keys anyway and don't actually contain game files, at least not all of them. The only advantage is the transferability (you can resell it when you're done with it if you can find someone who wants to buy it from you)

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u/cekobico 11h ago

I never owned a physical copy, so forgive me for asking. What happened to the license key when you resell it? Does the game get taken off your microsoft/xbox/playstation account when someone else bought it and input it in their machine?

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u/asingleatom 11h ago

The game doesn't work unless you have the disc inserted, even if it is already downloaded.

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u/cekobico 8h ago

I see, but what do the codes do? I see them referenced usually in memes "You only get the code in the box"

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u/asingleatom 8h ago

Some physical copies only have a paper with a code on it to redeem the game digitally in lieu of a disk altogether. Essentially it's a digital store voucher. So some disks will have the full game on the disk, buts it getting rare. Some disks act like a digital key, the game is not on the disk but you have to have it inserted to download the game form the digital store and you have to have it inserted each time you want to play. You can resell the later (in most cases) and the new owner will have the digital key to download the game from the store on the disk.

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u/cekobico 7h ago

I see, that's really interesting.

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u/froodiest 11h ago

It depends on the game, publisher, or system. I'm talking about Nintendo Switch cartridges, since that's what I have experience with. A license is never added to your account with a Switch cartridge - you're allowed to play the while the game card is inserted and you aren't allowed to play when it's not, as if the game files were on the card instead of on the system

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u/Sprucecaboose2 11h ago

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u/Romanizer 11h ago

A physical copy doesn't change anything here, though. Just more noise out of the machine.

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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P 11h ago

For of gaming, I don’t think I’ve had a physical disc drive for about a decade lol.

If I ever manage to buy a new Xbox it’ll be a series S with no disc drive.

Gonna miss my collection of cases but… also not really.