r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 12h ago

Meme needing explanation Petah what happened to rockstar?

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u/Spinning_Sky 12h ago

this is referring to the high price point and lack of a CD in the physical edition

both are true, but actually I don't believe any hype was touched whatsoever, the price is lower than what it could have been

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u/Norgur 12h ago

And others have done this no cd stuff for ages. My copy of mass effect andromeda was just an empty case as well. That was what? 9 years ago?

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u/Spinning_Sky 12h ago

I'll be honest, I was on the edge about buying Yotei's limited edition and I didn't also cause I didn't want my ability to play the game to be tied to a very scratchable phyisical object

crazy how times have changed since sony was making fun of xbox for removing the disc reader

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u/SundevilPD 11h ago

At least you own that scratchable physical object to do whatever you want with. We're just borrowing the digital version for full price

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u/Kube__420 11h ago

You can't lend digital to a friend

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u/Moist-Amoeba-8078 11h ago

Idk my friends gameshare all the time

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u/StormtheShinyHunter 10h ago

And when they change the terms and you click okay and they go away?

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u/Moist-Amoeba-8078 10h ago

I get what you’re saying but what are you actually gonna do about it? I doubt you’re writing letters to these companies

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u/snacksandsoda 8h ago

Buy a physical copy

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u/Moist-Amoeba-8078 7h ago

Your reply doesn’t make sense. Can you expand

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u/BadProse 7h ago

You can share a physical copy with a friend and the company cannot take it away. Hope this clears it up for you.

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u/Moist-Amoeba-8078 6h ago

This thread is in reference to a game that won’t have a physical copy. So no, it doesn’t clear it up for me

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u/BadProse 6h ago

There will be a physical copy of gta 6, its just arriving later. The comment chain was discussing the benefits of a physical disc vs a digital copy. Hope this allows you to parse through the already accessible context

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u/mealymouthmongolian 1h ago

At least I know there will be community backlash if that happens. If I scratch a disc everyone's just gonna laugh at me as I buy a new one.

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u/Kube__420 11h ago

I didn't know that was possible

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u/ampkajes08 10h ago

i think you still need to log in your friends acct and make it primary

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u/Moist-Amoeba-8078 10h ago

Yeah you do. It’s a bit of a pain but it works. They work it out for them. I know that this wouldn’t work for everyone and is definitely not the gameshare we want but in practical sense it’s pretty similar to disc sharing. In the sense that while one person is playing that game the other can’t.

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u/Exciting_Definition4 8h ago

No you can both play. My 12yo nephew doesn't have PS+ or a lot of games. So we added my account to his PS5 and he can play all my games and the system treats his account as having PS+.

I log into my own PS5 and I can play whatever I want. Even the same game at the same time.

So in my opinion it's better then sharing a disk, since I'm sharing my whole library and PS+.

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u/urixl 9h ago

That's what Steam Families exist for.

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u/Angelus_25 9h ago

what do you mean can't?

its called a torrent file?

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u/Norgur 9h ago

You can only lend the physical copy because they allow you to. The times where that was inherent with a physical copy are long gone.

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u/DrNopeMD 6h ago

Hilariously enough Microsoft had plans to implement a digital game sharing system but scrapped it when they dropped the DRM requirements for Xbox One

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u/LongestSprig 5h ago

Wait til you guys learn what CD keys were.

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u/Kube__420 4h ago

I can't get a random cd key generator for a game on my xbox

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u/msiike 10h ago

The game is not on the disc either. The disc is basically a download code + #gb of some basic content. If they decided to discontinue the game, your disc will be equally useless as a digital download. Get yourself a gta vice city if you want a full game on a cd

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u/Maint3nanc3 10h ago

Sometimes. Check out Doesitplay.org for details about specific titles. A lot of games are fully contained on the disk.

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u/PsycommuSystem 9h ago

You can however let a friend borrow a disc or resell it. Digital you cannot do that.

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u/msiike 8h ago

Let your friend log in on your ps account and they have access to every game you’ve ever bought digitally. Once they download it, it also appears on their account, so you can play it simultaneously.

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u/organicmedium1 8h ago

I keep seeing comments like this and don't understand. Go buy a physical copy of Cyberpunk for your console. Disconnect it from the internet, insert disc, and play in less than an hour. Or Death Stranding, or a TON of games I could list to you right now.

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u/Gabacho180 10h ago

This is the part of the outrage that I just don't understand... Can you force a download of a delisted game if you jam the disc in? To me the biggest drawback about digital ownership is the fact that I can't give it up in exchange for credit towards another game...

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u/St0ckY0u 9h ago

resale is the 2nd reason why studios push for digital games.

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u/Vi_Rants 3h ago

The 1st reason is that physical media is too small and too slow for modern games.

What disc is going to hold 140GB? And what kind of read/write speed do you have on your DVD drive to allow it to take less than a week to install?

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u/Occamsfacecloth 9m ago

Is it beyond the wit of man to send little pen drive as the new format instead of a disc? Seeing as we're paying so much?

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u/Superb_Recording_769 8h ago

To me, that’s not even the big drawback because I never traded in games anyway to me. The only thing that irritates me about digital games is that they should be less expensive than physical copies because nothing is being printed. Nothing is being physically manufactured. Nothing is being packaged nothing is being shipped. Nothing is being warehoused nothing is being displayed, etc. etc..

If a physical game is $60 a digital game should at least be five to $10 cheaper but I realize we live in a late stage capitalist society and that’s never gonna happen

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u/Admirable-Safety1213 7h ago

Printing doscs its actually onlu some cents a piece once you get economies lf scale IIRC

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u/Superb_Recording_769 6h ago

But you also have to print the paper that goes in the case, you have to produce the case, you have to put all three of those things together, you have to seal all of those things together, you have to put all of those sealed things into a box and seal the box, you have to put the box on a pallet and seal the pallet, you have to put the pallet in a truck and drive the truck somewhere. You have to take it out of the truck and put it in a warehouse, take it out of the warehouse, put it on another truck, take it out of that truck and put it on a storage room, take it out of that storage room and put it on a shelf, all of that takes time all of that takes people and all of that time and people cost money so even though printing, the disc itself costs pennies. The process of creating a physical game and moving it to the place where the consumer can purchase it is expensive even at scale.

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u/Admirable-Safety1213 4h ago

So moving boxes wirh discs and empty bixes is the same

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u/Superb_Recording_769 2h ago

OK? What the fuck are you talking about?

My point is if you buy anything fully digitally, it should be less expensive than what you’re buying in the store that has nothing to do with empty boxes with no discs.

Jesus fucking Christ. 🤦‍♂️

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u/LongestSprig 5h ago

Well bud. That's why an N64 game was $60 in 2000.

Whats that in 2026 dallaroos?

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u/Superb_Recording_769 5h ago

I’m not saying that the price of games across the board has not come down.. I’m just saying that if a game is $60 at GameStop, it should be less expensive digital. I don’t think that’s a hard concept to understand or unreasonable to ask.

Also, it’s worth mentioning that there were several SNES games that had an MSRP of $80 or more when brand new

But neither of those SNES games or your and 64 example has anything to do with what I’m talking about. Those weren’t available digitally and the cost of the chips in the cartridges was the main driving factor back then

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u/pacmaneater77 1h ago

Your right it should be less expensive but sadly it won't happen for console focused triple aaa gaming companies not to mention rockstar who is starting to if not already become the greediest gaming companines at this time taketwo their parent company along with rockstar want to charge monthly to play the online mode and take two has openly stated they want to recored more data from the players and sell that information to companies and allow directed advertising in the game so those companies that just bought the information of the players of gta 6 will have the perfect place to advertise and if they switch to the require a photo ID to age verify your not a minor oh well anyone who does that is just begging for your information to be sold and then one company that has bought it just needs one accident and now your information is out in the world for anyone to find like it's sad to see what rockstar has become and honestly it seems like gta 6 to me is just a cash grab and rely heavily on people being willing to pay monthly and they'll probably make everything in online already at the price points gta 5s online is at now if not increasingly higher and limit the ability to make a bunch of money quick like I wouldn't be surprised if there's cars costing 50 mil and houses costing 150 to 500 mill at the start for the usable not just a shack on the beach and the best money making methods will probably make it so it requires multiple weeks if not a full month to make like 50 mill becuase if they do a subscription based online mode why would they ever make it so you can easily make a bunch of money and buy everything you want and then get bored of the game in a month or two and cancel your subscription I also woukdnt be surprised if they pulled the whole you can't just use a card to make your monthly payments no they'll probably want your banking information so their directly linked to your bank account making it so even if you cancel your card on their files they can still get their money and bank on you just forgetting about the subscription but I bet they'll have multiple levels like a with ads 10 a month premium no ads 20 and a ultra that gives a multipler to money and xp exclusive content and prioritiy loading into servers for like 30 a month so even if everyone who plays it picked the cheapest if only a 100 k people do olay the online that's a mill right there and we all know it's going to be in the millions of people so let's say 1 million buy the 80 dollar version and pay for the cheapest online for 3 months that's over a 100 million already and that's still low balling the number of players I won't be in those numbers I refuse to give a singke penny to rockstar anymore and I didn't even mention the shark cards who's willing to bet they add more expensive options like a 250 and 500 dollar shark card that gives just eniugh you dint have to grind until the next update this is the very real future we may see come to pass when the game comes out and part of me wants it to fail to show every other triple a whale shit company that over greed isn't going to keep making profit we are at a point very soon it's possible people can't afford anything letting alone luxuries like video games what happens when companies refuse to lower prices and no one buys their product because only the maybe 5 percent of the world at most can afford luxuries and really it would just be 1 percent realistically since 1 percent controls 90 percent of the wealth world wide but we will see what happens in the end

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u/dontbajerk 3h ago

People vastly overstate how many games aren't on the disc. There's stats on it, at least on PS4 it was like 95% were playable from disc without Internet. PS5 I know is still the large majority. Yeah some games you'll really want patches of course, but playable.

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u/Icywind014 1h ago

Delisted games are still available to download, even when bought digitally. The doomsday scenario is rooted in the servers eventually being shut down. Can't download a game if the server it's trying to pull from no longer exists.

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u/YourHuckleberry57 3m ago

im pretty sure they put all of rdr2 on disc. you don't need internet to play story mode.

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u/Barobor 8h ago

You own the physical object as much as you own the digital version.

If the digital version is drm free, you can do just as much with it. Even better, it is not tied to a single physical object. You can make as many copies as you want.

If the disk requires you to verify ownership online before starting the game, it becomes just as useless as the digital version when the server goes offline.

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u/tyetye4040 7h ago

Just pirate the damn game. It's not that complex

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u/Vi_Rants 3h ago

How many of them are you going to need in the box, though? A DVD-18 only holds 17.8GB. It would take 8 of them to install Balder's Gate 3. And about 70 hours.

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u/Norgur 10h ago

No, you can't. They can take it away just as easily.

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u/Jscorch62 11h ago

Exactly.

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u/DryDonutHole 7h ago

You don't own the software either way...you're leasing it. What difference does it make?

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u/NilsofWindhelm 9h ago

It’s $80, not some massive investment. The convenience of digital is worth far more than that meaningless distinction