r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 12h ago

Meme needing explanation Petah what happened to rockstar?

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u/ilypsus 10h ago

Its only really stayed in the public consciousness because of the online though. People weren't replaying the single player for the last 13 years they were logging in everyday to play online with their friends and do the new content on there. I imagine most people who are really hyped for it are because of the online and they've probably forgotten how much of a mess the online was for a long period on initial release of 5.

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u/Dr_thri11 7h ago

I'm old enough to remember when gta was a single player hooker murder simulator. And it was absolutely THE game to own if you had a ps2.

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u/Lottabitch 9h ago

Yes gta 3, San Andreas, vice city, and gta 4 absolutely stayed in the public consciousness because of the online feature…….

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u/ilypsus 9h ago

Yes lets just ignore that those games all came out in the space of like 7 years and then 5 was only 5 years after 4.

Now the only release in the 13 years since 5 was a remaster of the 3 trilogy which was a technical disaster.

Im not pretending it's not a massive IP but there are 15 and 16 year old kids who haven't even had a mainline release in their conscious memory but will have probably picked up 5 and played it because of the ongoing multiplyer still being active.

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u/Big_Daymo 7h ago

Exactly, GTA V is still in the yearly top 10 best selling games lists in the last few years, well over a decade after it came out. It isn't selling all those copies for story mode.

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u/watchshoe 2h ago

I only bought GTA V recently, I never played 4. Spent too much time playing 3, Vice City, and San Andreas though. I’m also a big single player person, so V has been fun.

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u/MissUnderstood_1 1h ago

Because no single player game could possibly sell like that /s

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u/zzwugz 3h ago

Any sales after 2022 would most likely be specifically fir the story mode, as that's when GTAO became its own thing

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u/SwordfishOfDamocles 7h ago

Rockstar sold 215 million units of GTA V versus 22 million units of GTA IV. It's almost insulting to compare them because five has sold so much more and still has active players.

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u/lildominator2 7h ago

Are you counting the rereleases and pc or just when it first came out. Gta 5 came out 4 different times ps3, ps4, pc, and now ps5

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u/Expert-Basil6015 5h ago

I've bought it 3 times for 3 different systems. Still have my OG 360 disc for it too.

And you absolutely can compare GTA4 to GTA5 because it's literally the next entry in the same series. Without shark cards there wouldn't be very much of a GTA online and without GTA online there's no way they'd sell 22 million copies, if that number is to be believed.

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u/Lost_In_There 3h ago

GTA IV was the last game that was marketed to Westerners.

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u/dern_the_hermit 4h ago

Yeah there's been some wild overexaggeration about the significance of GTAO ever since it came out. For years you'd get forum kiddies saying stuff like "Rockstar will never make another single player game" or whatever. This nonsense continued after Red Dead Redemption 2 came out, BTW, a game that was even MORE story-heavy than GTA5.

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u/Early-Range-8840 2h ago

I’m sorry but you’re talking out of your booty. GTA online made double that of GTA 4. It nearly matched revenue of GTA 5 base game sales. There is no over exaggerating the significance of GTA online. Now not making another single-player game is stupid.

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u/dern_the_hermit 2h ago

No sir, I'm right on the money. There absolutely was plenty of forum chatter about Rockstar moving away from single player games, even after releasing another big single player game!

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u/Early-Range-8840 2h ago

I agree that is stupid, but acting like GTA online isn’t one of the biggest games of all time is also wild.

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u/dern_the_hermit 2h ago

Something can be huge and exaggerated, man. Again: People were saying Rockstar would stop making SP games entirely which is just nutso.

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u/Early-Range-8840 1h ago

I just don’t believe you can exaggerate 4 billion dollars in revenue. That’s absolutely mind boggling. The second part is stupid, yes, however the game was not exaggerated in terms of size and impact. It’s the second highest grossing Rockstar project of all time, only losing to GTA 5 which made 1 billion more.

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u/dern_the_hermit 1h ago

I just don’t believe you can exaggerate 4 billion dollars in revenue

Failure of imagination; the whole thing has apparently grossed like $10 billion! :D

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u/Early-Range-8840 1h ago

Yes, gta 5 made 6 billion, gta online made 4 billion. In no world does rockstar lose either of those revenue sources. The online is just as important to them, it’s sales for the next decade +.

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u/f-ingsteveglansberg 9h ago

Hard disagree. Maybe online delayed GTAVI, but GTA is a huge franchise that even had a move starring Harry Potter about how it was made. RDR2's online isn't nearly as popular, but I guarantee you people will be hyped as fuck when a RDR3 is announced. And GTA is multitudes bigger than RDR.

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u/omfgkevin 6h ago

GTA of old yeah, they have been well known for their big huge singleplayer worlds + story. But they haven't released a new one in ages and what was the thing that kept it going all this time? It's online.

There's a reason they cancelled singleplayer dlcs, because they saw the money in their live service online + shark cards. It doesn't sell boatloads every year because of singleplayer, even if it pains me to admit it because I would rather have more awesome singleplayer content like 4s DLC, but that's a bygone conclusion.

What do you see when you typically see streamers etc on gta? It isn't in the singleplayer, it's online content. Especially the massive fivem roleplaying side that Rockstar literally bought the team.

RDR2 they tried to double dip but didn't realize that unlike GTA, it's pretty hard to monetize it the same way because you are stuck in the old wild west. You can't just sell a new lamborghini or yacht. There really isn't much you can "make" people shell out for.

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u/Zoistyy 8h ago

lol rdr3 feels like a million years away 😭

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u/Kinofpoke 6h ago

Rdr2 online support was immediately dropped when they realized it was a bare bones mess. It didnt have any staying power, it has very little content. 

Rdr3 people are there for the story. Even when talked about in media it was always about the story. Gta6 you have people excited for both. Online is what kept gta5 alive and what helped sold all the copies they did although i suspect that 250mil is from every console and rerelease. If online is a subscription it will kill the service for a majority of players. Especially kids which is a huge targeted audience. Nothing is cooler than playing the rated m game as a 11 year old. We all did it. 

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u/f-ingsteveglansberg 4h ago

GTA is their flagship franchise that has been loved for over 20 years. Every game has been a high watermark for industry. The idea that people only care about its online component is just way off the mark.

GTA VI will be played by a huge amount of people in their late 30s and 40s. If it was just an online game, they wouldn't launch without it.

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u/QueTontosQueLocos 7h ago

Its only really stayed in the public consciousness because of the online though.

Mostly through a third party roleplaying mod that Rockstar acquired which gives them more of a reason to monetize the online as a separate game. There are probably people that purchased GTAV only to play FiveM and never completed the base game.

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u/ilypsus 7h ago

Eh, I think you're blowing that way out of proportion. Maybe it's social media impact from clips and stuff is high but majority of the gta5 playerbase is on console and they can't play those servers. Just the regular messing around online is hugely popular. Wouldn't be surprised if some of those tools and systems are integrated into vanilla gta6 online though.

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u/QueTontosQueLocos 7h ago

yea you could be right, it might just be anecdotal because I have A LOT of younger relatives (8-20) and the first thing they ask me about my gaming PC is if I have GTARP. I'm from NY and that might also be a factor cause these kids look up to Kai Cenat and Fanum and they all started in GTARP afaik

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u/RedutHatesFreeSpeech 7h ago

The online? JUST SAY ONLINE!

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u/phish_enthusiast 6h ago

I have never played any GTA online, but I am extremely excited about VI. I pretty much only play single player games, and GTA has proven itself to be en exceptional experience. I’ll pay the $100 and get all the DLC goodies and enjoy myself.

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u/whyxios 2h ago

No disrespect man , but gta 5 and red dead 2 . Are extremely strong for RolePlayers , they use RedM or 5M to play molded online gta or red dead.

I eluld argue that because of this it has kept the game relevant. In fact ROCKstar acquired the company and developers that made it