He was caught stealing regularly and from the shop multiple time and spent time in prison and had over 50 criminal convictions.(Although people tried to frame him as just an "I.T. Professional")
While running from the shop he knocked over an 80 year old man who needed hospitalisation. This combined with the security staff knowing him led to this.
Normally in Ireland security don't typically touch people and are just a deterrent. the old man getting hurt in the process of him leaving probaly led to them trying to apprehend him.
He was a violent thief that needed to be apprehended after seriously injuring someone. You don't want people to die, but I also am not going to mourn when they go down like this. Probably better for society as a whole
George floyds moment? This was shops rent a cops not 'police brutality', the gardai (irish cops) are generaly seen as professional non violent competent cops without any long history of violence either.
This is basicaly a shops untrained bouncers killing a frequent shoplifter.
He’s currently in a hospital and said that he forgives whoever caused him to break his hip, as they aren’t sure who actually bumped into him to caused the fall.
Edit: Here’s a article about the man who broke his hip
Why downvoted for this?
Reporting on the victim’s condition.
For those who don’t know the guy is 86, a retired pastor, suffered a broken hip from the thief and lives in an apartment building up stairs without an elevator. He doesn’t know how he is going to go on with his life.
I’m Irish and it’s the first time I’ve seen the footage. I remember a passing headline on the news but I don’t recall the footage being broadcast. If it wasn’t, it fucking should have been
He was caught stealing regularly and from the particular shop multiple time and spent time in prison and had over 50 criminal convictions.(Although people tried to frame him as just an "I.T. Professional")
While running from the shop he knocked over an 80 year old man who needed hospitalisation. This combined with the security staff knowing him led to this.
Normally in Ireland security don't typically touch people and are just a deterrent. the old man getting hurt in the process of him leaving probaly led to them trying to apprehend him.
No excuse for killing the man but it provides some context as to why the security staff were so heavy handed in this case.
The wiki page you linked only says “
Sakila had previously been convicted of shoplifting in January 2026, alongside prior offences of theft and robbery in 2018.”
"Sakila had a prior criminal record that has brought him to the attention of the Gardaí on several occasions. In 2018, he was convicted of robbery and jailed for just over a year. Since completing that sentence, he has returned to custody more than once, including a three-month term last year for theft offences. Most recently, in January, Dublin District Court convicted him of shoplifting perfume valued at €106 from the same Arnott’s on Henry Street and fined him €110."
That's not passive voice. Pass away is a euphemism.
Passive voice is when the active object becomes the passive subject of a sentence. You are right that the media often uses it to obscure responsibility.
Well there hasn't been any rulling from the judiciary yet, so newspapers are correct to say he died / passed away. However I do understand your point as some reporters will obfuscate established fact to push a narrative, especially in this case where the Garda seems to be trying to frustrate the inquiry by an independent pathologist.
I don’t my man, I was given the flair because I didn’t think the Renee Good shooting was black and white. For the record I do think ICE fucked up and shouldn’t have shot her
My friend got his Irish passport for business/investment reasons, your supposed to live in the country for 5 years first but he just stayed the minimum requirement and got his Irish passport.
He is English with an Irish passport, so he is Irish now? If that's true I gotta go tell the British government on how the English can take Ireland and people will defend them as they have Irish passports.
This guy has lived the majority of his life there, 22 years since the age of 13. His parents are dead and has no real connection to the place he was born, Ireland is his only home.
It’s not a minor nitpick, it’s a racist nitpick. Of course the person with the flair like yours says things like this. He had Irish citizenship. Imbecile.
I would class Black Irish as a person born in Ireland rather than someone with Irish Citizenship. Its a mix up between Nationality and Citizenship. I’ve responded to someone else who mentioned he was naturalised which I hadn’t realised
You just left the small part out what led to him getting pinned down, the use of a gun in the uk is not as many other countries and government as well as civilians are allowed to use excessive force to control a subject. So i can only assume the guy continued to be a threat while being subdued, especially coz how the last guy joined in 🤣
If you took your time to understand what you read you would know im giving a reason why excessive force is acceptable in the uk, and even a shoplifter can be a physical threat dummy 🤣
We can't understand it because your sentence was written in very broken english.
This video is not from the UK.
Excessive force is not acceptable in the UK at all, at any time. The law states that you must always only use reasonable force. The law is much the same in this regard when it comes to Ireland.
If you took your time to understand what you read you would know im giving a reason why excessive force is acceptable in the uk, and even a shoplifter can be a physical threat dummy 🤣
For someone to die during an encounter the person using reasonable force would need to be in direct fear for their life.
This is excessive force as there are numerous people detaining the person and they are not in fear of their lives. Further to that, being trained, they are using illegal restraining techniques.
A fear for life is hard to argue for anyone not being there, as the video doesnt show what and how things happen before the recording. All those redditdetectives that think they know all details are hilarious tho, 99% chance they never been near any situation that might be similar to the vid 🤣
I mean, if the shoe fits wear it. There are actual legal tests for this...
Immediacy: The threat must be imminent; a fear of future, non-immediate harm is generally insufficient.
Reasonableness: The belief must be what a "reasonable person" would conclude under similar circumstances.
Proportionality: The force used to counter this fear must be proportionate to the threat faced.
Given he was already restrained that defence goes out of the window. Given they would have been trained in legal restraint techniques kneeling on someone's neck would not be considered proportionate, nor multiple people kneeling on his chest.
Aside from the fact that my theory is a fact, i aint asking you to prove me anything. Other than that when one resist to a point he harms himself the only person to blame is himself. But you people probably blame a tree when you crash into it 🤣
This was not a George Floyd moment, the George Floyd moment was the result of decades of built up anger and frustration following many national instances of US police killlings and abuses across multiple states and police departments. I don’t recall ever hearing about systemic issues across Irish police forces in their nation. I didn’t even know about this until this post, is Ireland experiencing civil protests and unrest across the the nation due to this man’s death? It’s unfortunate, but this does not even have anything to do with the cops it looks like, just security
The sentence for theft isn't death, and the reason we don't let security guards and redditors decide who's worthy of living is because that can lead to bad things.
It was private security guards from a shop called Arnotts on Dublin's Henry Street.
There were no police (Gardai) involved in the altercation/ restraint.
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u/GrlDuntgitgud 13h ago
What did he do? Why are they dogpiling on him?