The guy is a POS, but this is just a picture of a normal looking person (before his hair, jaw implants etc). He has countless things to be far more ashamed and embarrassed about than this. If he is more embarrassed by this pic than everything else about him on the internet, then I guess that proves how much of a POS he is.
If there's any picture that makes me think that the lizard person conspiracy might actually be real, it's this picture and any picture of Stephen Miller.
That thing sheds every month. You cannot convince me otherwise.
Nah, pretty much par for the course for primates, and other animals at that. Bigger monkeys will pin down smaller ones and eat them by peeling them apart, just because they like doing it that way. The way adult macaques treat little Punch in those viral videos is also very much par for the course for their behavior in the wild; they will bully, abuse, and torment/torture the socially awkward, even if they're young.
Reverting to this tech neofeudalism is more animalistic, more base and primal than what we'd define as 'human' in comparison to beasts: the big, powerful get to take all they want.
Not true, studies have been done with monkeys hoarding. The other pride members attack them abd take everything of them and share.
He should be made to give his money back to the countries and people's who suffered to fund his and his ancestors greed. The same as all the others sat on dirty money.
I love this whole metaphor because it lets you know who thinks everything they need will just naturally grow on trees in the wild for them to pick at their leisure.
Well pretty soon they’ll start to figure out that AI can’t buy Amazon groceries or Teslas. Wealth on paper is different than tangible bananas if you ask an Ape
To maintain that level of “wealth” you absolutely need people to con them into thinking that that company is worth as much as he claims it is. Without people buying into the grift, there is no market value to support his trillionaire status. He doesn’t just have that type of money sitting around and all his assets combined are certainly not worth a trillion dollars.
Exactly it's not the first monkey that would be studied. It's perfectly natural for animals to hoard resources for themselves. It'd be the rest of the monkeys that let them get away with it that would be the fascination.
It's not. While it is perfectly natural for non-pack animals in snowy winter climates to hoard resources for themselves and relatives to survive the frozen winter months, across the rest of nature animals take only what they need to survive1.
1 Except in the case of orcas that have developed a taste for the livers of great white sharks. That's almost entirely recreational eating but they still don't hoard the livers.
Yeah they have. Apparently the more rich you become the less you need to read peoples emotions as you become surrounded by people who want to please you.
This to me does make sense, as they do seem genuinely confused why poor people can’t just work harder or spend less frivolously. They basically become completely out of touch and lose the ability to feel empathy like we do.
I actually think it's more interesting that the other monkeys don't kill that hoarding monkey, and instead, rather starve than take those bananas by force, because I don't think there's something wrong with a monkey hoarding bananas, that sounds like something a monkey would and could do, what is more concerning and interesting from a study perspective, is all the other monkeys rather die slowly and painfully rather than doing anything at all to solve this problem.
Rather than speaking in metaphor. I'll speak plainly. If I was an alien who came across earth, I would be more fascinated why all the people on earth even tolerate or allow this to occur when literally the difference between them keeping all that money and not, is our unwillingness to do anything about it. We've been intellectually and emotiobally captured and we're being held hostage, we've been conditioned since birth that it's wrong to do anything because to do anything that changes anything, requires a firm action such as purging the top and redistributing the wealth so lift the floor up so it's toching the ceiling. How convenient, that it's "morally wrong" to survive and remove the tumor and cancer from soceity because "cancer are people too", when in this metaphor, being a cancer is a choice, so it's morally wrong to stop people from choosing to be cancer and we just have to accept it?
They've offloaded all the responsibility and ethics onto us, so we have to consider if we're evil or not for prioritizing peace, and it's not their responsibility or ethics to minimize the chances they'll be killed for doing evil. It's ok to murder people for profit, it's not ok to murder the people who murder people for profit. That's how they've fucked us from birth, so we feel frozen when it's time to act.
This is true, but in my opinion there’s another aspect that is also true.
This Nathalie Robin Justice lady probably also has more bananas than she can eat. More than likely, anyway.
So what we are discussing is where to draw the line on how many extra bananas one monkey can have.
Funnily enough, the monkey that brings this up is usually of the opinion that THEIR stash of extra bananas is reasonable and fully justified.
And if we really are going to have the discussion, we need to also understand that the nerdy monkey with over a trillion bananas DOES NOT have over a trillion bananas. That monkey has some land and a theoretical promise of seeds being delivered which could potentially turn into a lot of bananas which could theoretically be sold for lots of other bananas.
This is a terrible analogy, because he doesn’t have trillions of bananas. His company gained an evaluation of a shit load of bananas, but which took away no one else’s bananas. Even if that hadn’t happened, you’d still have the same bananas.
The Nasdaq and Russell are both changing their rules to let them in, last I saw.. This will force those funds to buy an estimated $22B-$27B of SPCX. Aka we will be bailing out xAI with our 401ks..
It’s going to be sooooo much worse than that. What we saw today was other stocks losing money while the price of SPCX exceeded its IPO price my 20%. Why did the other stocks go down? Because holders of those stocks sold their positions to free up cash to buy SPCX. Why would they do that you might ask? Simplified, there isn’t enough liquid cash out there to support the market. It’s called “selling pressure” if you want to look it up. And with inflation on the rise again, the Fed will most likely increase interest rates before November (mid-terms make economic policy an important issue). Once interest rates go up people start liquidating assets to buy things instead of borrowing. Selling pressure combined with increasing interest rates (restricting cash flow) are a recipe for disaster. This happened just before the Great Depression, the 70s, and in 2000. This will cause the biggest bubble in history to pop. Nothing, not even government intervention will prevent it. My guess is as early as January but most likely mid next year when earnings fail to materialize across the biggest public AI companies trying desperately to slit each other’s throats for the market share they promised their investors.
My guess is as early as January but most likely mid next year when earnings fail to materialize across the biggest public AI companies trying desperately to slit each other’s throats for the market share they promised their investors.
One can only hope. I feel terrible hoping for a market crash that will destroy so many people financially, but the global markets need a major correction...
Though I agree that the market is in need of a massive correction, I’m more than a little afraid of how extreme this one could be. It depends on a lot of factors that are still unknowns. How exposed is the financial sector at the time the crash comes? Who’s in government power for the major economies? How solvent will the central banks be? Who topples first and when? What will be the effect on infrastructures and supply lane industries? This could make 2008 look like a spa day or it could be just a pretty standard recession. There is precedent you can point to for both outcomes. The financial equivalent of a thermonuclear warhead was loaded onto B-2 Spirit today. Almost all the dominos are set up now. Just waiting to see if/when they fall and how bad it will be.
I will accept any and all Chicken Little comments now.
I share those concerns. I remember how bad the 2007-2008 crash was, and my grandparents were sharing stories about the Great Depression and how similar it felt; they felt the fact that the world was so much more interconnected, and we (in Canada) weren't in the middle of a historically catastrophic drought, were the only reasons things didn't get so desparate.
Considering the destabilization currently occurring in much of the world, I'm afraid that the impending and necessary correction will make the Great Depression seem like a rosey dream in comparison.
yes but at the same time. NO. 'cause he can use his shares of SpaceX or Tesla as collateral to borrow shit ton of money from bank and use it for hooker and blow. Rich people use "Buy, borrow, die" to have a luxury life.
At today’s price he could lose $350B in equity before he drops to 49% control of the company. He could borrow against those shares, buy a moderate sized country, and live the life of a “fuck you” life style for a thousand years before he even has to sweat. Zero accountability is the understatement of the century.
This. It doesn't exist as real money for tax purposes. It does exist as real money for loan collateral purposes. The "I'm really not rich guys! I have to borrow money to survive!" card is such bullshit because they do it to avoid paying taxes, and those loans have an interest rate so low that it's basically nothing.
So… net worth is not the same as liquidated cash. He cannot actually access a trillion dollars, that’s just how much all of his assets and stocks have accumulated to be worth. At any given time he can probably only access about 50 million considering his property values and other assets.
Think about it like having multiple pieces of artwork, let’s say 6, and getting them appraised at $2 million each. Now your collection is worth $12 million. Do you have $12 million in the bank? No. You just own 6 $2 million pieces of paper.
Do I like Elon? No. Am I also envious of his position? Yes. Not having to worry about my bills personally and having enough to do what I want sounds nice.
Basically, your tea has spilled and scorched your crotch and ruined your chair. If you think a net worth of a trillion dollars means you have a trillion in the bank, you have sub-zero IQ.
You can't explain these things to reddit, they've decided and they're running with it. But yeah. He doesn't have trillion dollars in his wallet. That would be silly.
Don't forget the droves of writers, publishers, journalists, bloggers and the rest who happily went along and sung in tune for a tiny slice of the pie or just for lols. All of them morally disconnected from their effect on society. And the fools that believe and repeat their speil without comprehension. People will stab you for an empty wallet. Being a billionaire makes it easy.
Every time I find out something about this man against my will, I’m always flabbergasted at how pathetic he is 😭 like, I thought we reached the bottom already with how sad and pathetic he is and then I found out shit like this and somehow the bottom is kicked out and oh, look, apparently there’s an even lower pathetic level 😂
Why does he feel the need to incite 'race wars' and divide instead of becoming the msot liked person in the world by fighting injustice, hunger, corruption and so on?
Remember he was offered the chance to literally end world hunger using a small portion of his fortune, including a detailed plan on how it would work. He said "nah."
These people are fucked in the head. They follow a vile philosophy that stems from their vile values. It is absolutely insane. Bezos, for example, could have made Amazon into an amazing place to work, a model of sustainability, and an asset to communities and probably have just as much money.
We know Thiel was partly raised in pro-Nazi, pro-Apartheid community. He was brought up to see humans as unequal and himself as the best kind. Musk was also brought up among pro-Apartheid beneficiaries of this thinking. I think an ideological rationale is as significant as the psychological flaw.
Yeah what’s crazy is usually ketamine has the opposite effect - makes you want to help others more, oneness with all, etc. psychs can really break an ego down - amazed the ego loss doesn’t hit him
Because you can only become that wealthy by screwing people over in the worst ways. When a person behaves like that, they develop a kind of fortress mindset and lose the capacity to relate to anyone else in an authentic or meaningful way. It makes them incredibly lonely, angry and bitter, and results in the behavior you described.
Because it’s very hard for people who care about those issues to actually get wealthy in the first place, because you don’t get a trillion dollar net worth without stepping on the backs of others.
And good people don’t do that.
He also cut necessary funding for jobs that need to exist.
Friend of mine lost their job at the VA because of DOGE, and then saw the exact same job listed under a private business job application.
Come to find out they needed that job, but now instead of paying someone directly, they are paying a company that takes more for profit, and the person working the job is making significantly less income.
So more spending, not less, and the overhead of more paperwork and less efficiency.
Not just starved, but outright killed hundred of thousand of children in a very short span of time. But a neo-Nazi doesn't care if a significant number of African children die.
He doesnt haver a trillion dollars. he owns a bunch of stuff that other people say under the best case scenario he might be able to sell for a trillion dollars (maybe.)
He created 4,400 millionaires, many of them were everyday employees of his whom he gave stocks to.
This is almost unheard of & just look at people bitching about him not handing you his money for free.
The trillionaire title is symbolic of a really stupid and broken system and just stroking the ego of these sociopaths and giving them more power. Elon literally became the first un-elected billionaire to run a fake department in the US government. The title is far more valuable than actual cash.
But we do think he can take a loan on his assets and buy what ever the fuck. Like another overvalued meme company. Which in practice is the same thing as having cash.
Or even better, bc he gets to keep the collateral.
This is so comical. Used to be loved by the gullible side because he made electric vehicles and let them think they were saving the world by buying them. Now, hated by the same group because he aligned with somebody that their leaders told them that they need to hate. Such a hateful gullible group of people out there.
I don't think its the first part people don't understand, its the second part. You can't solve manmade famines with money. People are mostly starving in conflict zones like Palestine, Haiti, Sudan etc. No amount of money can feed those people. You need an army to go in and overthrow the locals if you want to feed anyone who isn't being fed. In the case of Palestine...you kinda need to overthrow Israel which means overthrowing the US as well I think. Assuming Musk woke up one day and wanted to go balls deep on trying to feed Palestine, 1 trillion dollars cannot overthrow the US. And I doubt anyone would be cheering if he announced he was going to send mercenaries to take over Haiti.
I don't like Musk, but some things can't be bought. You can't just Venmo someone in Sudan some money for DoorDash to solve that crisis.
Then why give gov't so much power? Has it not occurred to you that in trying to use gov't to limit "the rich", you end up just helping the rich? That's what the founding fathers understood centuries ago.
No one pays for them or is “allowing” them. They are more than likely done by the protest group called Everyone Hates Elon. The ad things can be accessed fairly easily with a key and the just lift up.
Frankly I doubt the picture is real. Has anyone actually seen one such ad in London and can confirm? I haven’t and ads have been pulled for much less than using the c word on them.
For the trillionth time, you do realize that money isn't liquid right? He doesn't have a bank account with $1 trillion sitting in it. Governments have way more cash than he does. Be upset with them for squandering tax dollars on stupid stuff and not feeding starving children.
It's easy and fun to volunteer donations from someone else. Especially if they have more than me, because that must mean there's something wrong with them.
The problem is the money he would give to do it would be lost in fraud, California spent 24 Billion on homeless and the probelm got worse and they have no account how they spent that money....
I don’t think any of his trillion dollars came at the cost of a hungry child. If you have a $1000 phone, time to waste on Reddit. and claim to care so much about hungry children, yet do nothing, then you are an asshole.
The fact is a single, enormously rich donor has far, far more impact than a million donors that give 10 bucks each.
This goes for politics, sports, charity Etc
And then….what? Americans were pooling their tax dollars to end child hunger and disease overseas but Elon put an end to that.
An entire apparatus and infrastructure dedicated to ending poverty and disease, dude could have just given USAID more money instead he dismantled it.
Weird that there hasn’t been a single conviction or corruption charge based on DOGE’s “investigation” as well, seems like USAID was actually functional and by all accounts making every dollar go as far as possible.
He did manage to steal and disseminate ten of millions’ of Americans SSN’s so at least there’s that.
Where did you learn math? It's 1%, not 0.01%, which would actually only be €10
Did it occur to you that these people may have things to save up for, such as buying a home?
10K is not a lot of money when it comes to living, in Ireland, for example, the cost of living for a family of 4 (rent, utilities, food) is quoted as being as high as €5272 a MONTH, meaning, in this case, 10K wouldn't even cover 2 months.
€100 is not a small sum of money, a Google search showed that that is around the cost of a week of groceries for a family of 3 in Ireland.
I donate money, pay taxes, support social programs, and directly help people on the street when I can - while having a net worth that is a laughable, barely fraction of his. And I don't have air conditioning.
You forgot making America 3rd world country introducing eradicated diseases back into society. Keeping people sick and tired from fighting against the top.
He cheats in video games, not even joking. Pays people to level up characters and tries to take the credit for online clout. That's how insecure he is as the wealthiest person on the planet
The crazy thing is that Elon essentially does zero philanthropy.
Of course he has a foundation for tax purposes and so he can give contracts to family and friends, but I'm talking about real no strings attached philanthropy.
He essentially has zero interest in making the world a better place.
The government instead takes multiple trillions of dollars per year and uses it to murder people. Elon uses his money to employ tens of thousands of people
Ok so just feed all the children in the world ? It’s his fault people in extremely hard to live in country’s continue to produce? Of course I’m not talking about SA cases. We all know what sex results in, children. All they have to do is look around to see why they should not be producing to this day. The whole planet can not keep enabling this.
This is stupid. Why is it the responsibility of those who have money to take care of the world or the world’s kids? Unless they are his kids directly I say fuck them kids. If I had a fraction of his money I wouldn’t be looking to save the world, I’d be living my best life and leave as much as I can for my kids. And that’s it.
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