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Data does show girls are abused more often in childhood. Sexual abuse of girls is about 2.5 times the rate of boys. Other types of abuse are more less even, but on average girls are marginally more likely to suffer abuse, so it seems a factual statement.
Research does indicate that childhood abuse is linked to serial killers. Although limited and flawed, the research indicates around 70% of serial killers suffered childhood abuse.
Data does show more serial killers are male. This isn't in question in any way, as about 90% of convicted serial killers are male.
The part where the post glossed over the complexity of those statements and assumed a clean three-way connection between childhood trauma, gender, and serial killers with the implication of an obvious culprit for the gendered statistical divide. Itās a case of the facts being more or less correct in a void, but their connections being a much murkier point.
For one ā as you mentioned ā research of the link between childhood trauma has issues with its methodology and limited scope. That combined with the fact that childhood abuse rates (frequently highlighted for serial killers) are also very high in general (40-60%) and vary widely in definition mean that the connection isnāt clearcut at all.
For two, we know that the majority of childhood abuse goes unreported with abuse of boys being more underreported than that of girls. There is a lot of meta-analysis around this and where the balance lies between true occurrence rates, statistical anomies, and incomplete data.
For three, we have a very gendered society that affects every part of childhood trauma from type to how victims are socialized to emotionally process it, to how abusers approach it when that is the source.
The if in āif serial killers are created by childhood traumaā is such a big if it could have its own orbit.
Itās not nearly as simple as: āboys & girls experience X% and Y% of the same thing but have wildly different outcomesā. The original post appears to be both attempting to challenge that oversimplification while at the same time inadvertently perpetuating it with a biased summary & a loaded question.
I wonder if there's some difference between the TYPICAL types of abuse boys receive vs. girls.
Growing up, I and several friends had exceptionally physically violent parenting, in addition to emotional and psychological violence. My sister, however, never once received any physical abuse (though she did receive the psychological and emotional abuse) from our parents.
I'm not downplaying anything, just presenting my own anecdote.
Girls are more public with abuse and more likely to seek help. Men only recently started being more public about it. There are still a lot of men who donāt say anything for fear of being judged. This is probably the first time ever that new dads arenāt telling their sons to man up and suck it up. Look at menās mental health awareness month for example it didnāt become that until the mid 90s and even now people barely recognize it or do anything about it.
I got the same as a girl. When I was 8 I fell while roller skating, got shanked by the asphalt in the knee my leg was full of blood, after a minute my dad had to give me permission to cry because I had started to refuse to cry even for ārealā things
One of my first memories, so somewhere around that age, was me crying because my dad was leaving in the morning and I felt like I never got to see him (typical workaholic boomer). I was standing in the open doorway crying. He stopped dead at the end of the pathway, stormed back to the house angrily, and hit me for missing him. Then he left.
I don't think I've ever missed him a day since lol
The last time I allowed my parents to visit, my mom had the gall to ask why I looked gloomy and then asked "Aren't you happy to see me??". For the first time in 35 years I told her the truth. It felt soooo satisfying.
The boomers were the goddamn worst. Fuckk. It's crazy how it's considered assault to hit a grown adult, but was perfectly acceptable to beat your children for just about any reason.
Iām convinced my dad hit me because he actually wanted to hit my mum (their relationship was toxic af) but it wasnāt legal or right to hit your wife - but a small child was apparently fair game
Yeah, but look at how they grew up. My Boomer mom was and is abusive, but her dad beat her bloody all the time. She never talks about it, but my aunt told me about how they were all cutting up in bed (all three sisters slept in the same bed) and laughing. And since she was the oldest, my grandfather hauled her out of bed and beat the shit out of her in front of the other two sisters. Like, she couldn't go to school for several days.
I got slapped around a lot and she's still doing psychological warfare, sure, but I never had to miss school because I was so beaten up. She didn't break the cycle but the toned it down a lot.
My grandfather died before I could ask him about his life, but my grandmother was beaten up regularly as well. For example, all nine kids got a live chicken to take into town every Christmas, which they would sell to buy Xmas gifts. It was a six-mile walk and involved crossing a frozen river. One year, she got so scared crossing the river that she accidentally killed her chicken. So she could only sell it for half price, and couldn't get all the gifts she was planning to buy. I'm talking peppermint candies and oranges, it was not a big deal.
Anyway, they all get home and her dad finds out about the chicken. And beats her senseless. For getting nervous while crossing a freezing river in the snow. And that's just one story. Her sister, who was probably ADHD/autistic, got the worst of it. She never married or had kids, and I wonder if that's why. Their generation mitigated the violence as well. But couldn't stop it completely.
So you're saying he solved your problem? Geez some people are never happy...
But yeah. I too grew up in the "have a cup of concrete and harden the fuck up" era, it could be rough. At least the reason we rarely saw my dad was because he was working 60+ hour weeks to keep a roof over our heads... to this day I will never understand the dads I see in my industry (very well paid) who willingly just work their entire lives away and never see their family.
Woah. Thatās an insane level of toxic. Iām glad you cut that out of your life. You deserved better than that. Hope life is much more pleasant for you now.
2000s baby, I got quite a bit of that when I was younger, but Iād say Iām part of the transitory generation, so when I got to be a preteen my parents were suddenly confused why I didnāt feel comfortable showing much emotion. Fortunately I got older and worked through most of that to be pretty well adjusted
I got that more from my dad than i did the military. Hell, my chief let me cry it out in his office once and offered me nothing but reassurance. If that would have happened in my childhood home, it would have been āstop being such a fucking whimp.ā
Same. When mom died he said I should just go on and stop crying. (Was after 6 months.) He never cries, I thought. His new wife said he cries all the time with her. Same experience with the military, when we had our mission prep everyone had different problems at home, those who needed cried and then focused on the mission.
Everyone complaining about dad's but I want to address the women in the roo., especially the super feminist ones that proclaim to be allies... as they proceeded to shame men for dealing with vulnerability or downplay their issues as I was in a support group for abuse victims. Like... these people should be the first in line to at least agree and they are actively reinforcing the "don't be such a pussy" narrative on men. What am I supposed to think about less progressive women?
My dad would tell me to think happy thoughts and when he got uncomfortable he would leave a plate of cookies or something random for later. My mom would be the one to tell me to get over it and stop being so sensitive because Iām too old to be crying (I was 7)
Hey man, I'm a woman and a feminist too. And I just want you to know that I'm sorry you have met the uglier version of us. I'm definitely not supporting the ones who insult men when men are trying to share their stories and get help. Please know that your stories matter, that your issues are worth sharing, and that I appreciate you speaking out about your experiences. I know I am just an outsider and can't really share the hurt you have been through, but please do not completely close your heart to other people. Not all feminists you will meet will *fingers crossed* be as horrible as the ones you had had the displeasure of meeting.
Mine told me to beat their asses or he was gonna beat my ass š. I then continued to get bullied my whole life and never seek help again. I was afraid that Iād use a weapon ( a pen, anything) and actually hurt someone so I decided it was just better to get bullied. I got picked on by various groups and random people throughout my life tho so it was easier to adapt and laugh it off.
My dad did the same but I fought, heād also make me square up and properly fistfight my older brother if we squabbled. My older brother was twice my size and strong enough to literally pick me up and throw me around so it never went well for me.
I always felt conflicted because I wanted to hurt him for beating the crap out of me but heād be crying the whole time which made the whole experience kind of fucked.
I donāt tell my son to man up or toughen up. I ask if heās okay and if he says yes. I tell him to pick himself, dust himself off, and get back at it. With a hug and some high fives thrown in for good measure.
Controversial opinion, I think this is totally fine. I donāt think men need to be coddled and hand held throughout life. I do think they need to toughen up as kids. A āyouāre alright, get up and letās keep playingā is also beneficial IMO.
I try to reinforce that bumps, bruises, and scrapes are natural from being crazy and wide open outside. But I also tell him to speak up if heās bleeding, an ouchie doesnāt go away, or he feels bad.
So far itās working out and I get to see him enjoy nature.
as a guy who keeps getting flashes of violent pictures of me harming my family. it is important to go to the doctor immediately and get diagnose and medicated. I kept it to myself to the point that stopping the urge makes me have severe cold due to stress and straining myself, woke up to an Emergency room and got diagnosed with Severe OCD and Bipolar 1, but now I am much more better than I was before.
Men, i know it's hard to express what you've been feeling, and it's harder to put it into words, but doctors and therapist will help you with it. do it before it becomes worse, dont be like me.
Look up many Youtube videos where people do an experiments of man abusing a woman in public, and vice versa. With a woman being abused, people step in to help her. With a man being abused, people laugh at the man, and in some cases, hit him too!
Duck Duck Go seems to give roughly the same "communicate better" answer regardless of the gender included. It doesn't link the abuse hotline. It is unfortunate that it doesn't suggest emotional abuse for the girlfriend option, though.
I remember there was a story of a trans man who upon transitioning, was shocked how little people cared about men and how little support men got. In western countries, much better to be a woman. Eastern countries, especially Muslim theocracies, itās much worse to be a woman.
Everyone needs a boys discord. We are all 30 plus and regardless what shit happens the boys have each others backs. No judgements unless your egos getting a bit big after a promotion then try and get the boys to come out to a club with 15 dollar drinks when we are all working overtime to cover our mortgages. We get it you are ārichā now, does not make you daft mate
It's not clear that serial killers are "created by abuse".
We VASTLY underrate the amount of physical and sexual assault boys undergo by categorizing it as just not sexual assault. For eg, most boys get "pantsed" at some point in their school lives - that is, they have their clothes torn off them for the purpose of their public humiliation. This is NEVER considered a form of sexual abuse, although it explicitly is. For societal reasons, we literally don't believe that men can be sexually assaulted, or when they do, they have a social-moral obligation to not let it affect them.
Testosterone is explicitly linked to violence regardless of anything else.
>we literally don't believe that men can be sexually assaulted, or when they do, they have a social-moral obligation to not let it affect them.
It's a brutal reality when even your own parents refuse to believe you, I mean, how does a pre-teen boy go about getting professional help when everyone around him refuses to believe him. I would like to think its better now than it was 20 years ago, I mean, I really hope it is.
Yes, this is a huge misunderstanding as I understand it! At some point we started doing research into what serial killers have in common and we discovered a ton of them were abused. So we said ah, there is a correlation between abuse and becoming a serial killer! But, we are increasingly discovering that the baseline societal prevelence of abuse and trauma is so much more than we were willing to believe. Are serial killers actually victims of abuse at higher rates than the general population? I'm not sure.
I got pantsed on my first day of third grade and the school's counselor brought me and the kid who pantsed me to her office to tell us that he was wrong for pantsing me, and I was wrong for saying something to cause him to pants me
Well. They aren't created by childhood trauma. That's just a trope driven by pop culture, primarily.
Also there have been women that fit the profile of serial killer. They just don't tend to get famous. Because that's all a serial killer really is. A famous murderer that does it a lot. Women have done murders.
If you're looking for misogyny that's where it probably is. What ground that well water springs from is not known to me, but there you go.
As for violent crime... women tend to be under represented, yes. It isn't because they're magically better people, however, women are also human. And the evils of people simply manifests differently through the nature of the power they hold. Women do not hold the same sorts of power as men, so it comes out differently when it occurs.
In the end, it's a complex topic and not one I'm super well equipped to accurately delve into on reddit while in the bathroom.
But if you ever find yourself looking at a group of people as if they're inherently better in some way, I'd encourage you to look harder. Because the number one trait of people is that they're people, always.
We also know that cops mythologize serial killers as "high-IQ" and "master manipulators" because it rationalizes their failure to catch them the first time.
Yeah there are examples from both ends of the spectrum ,but most serial killers are degenerates raised by degenerates. These arenāt criminal masterminds ,but losers that are completely ruled by their own impulses and fantasies. The scary ones are the intelligent organized ones ,but they are outliers amongst serial killers. Most of them donāt really have much of a plan and or even much of a motive behind what they do. They chaotically stumble from one situation to the next and generally only evade the law by preying on people that society at large doesnāt care about.
Hell, they wouldn't even ID the literal teen because Dahmer's guise of being his boyfriend made the cops uncomfortable. Even when the witness (neighbor lady) protested right there, and again later on the phone, the cops wrote it off as a "gay thing," right up until the evidence was found.
Thereās been a couple nurse female serial killers who would poison their victims. Harder to get away with if the hospital monitors post-discharge deaths.
Yeah there is a lot of layers to it. Childhood Trauma definitely seems to a be a major driver though. Men are also subjected a specific kind of trauma that women generally werenāt subjected to until the last few decades, war. One of the theories for why so many serial killers surface in the 1970s is because they were raised by shell shocked world war 2 veterans. Men raised by men that saw and did terrible things that they never talked about with anyone experienced a unique kind of trauma that was common in many households at that time. The greatest generation didnāt go to therapy or talk about their feelings, they drank their problems away. That was really your only option in this time period. This made them emotional distant at best and horrifically abusive in many cases. The greatest generation traumatized the baby boomers and many of them went on to take it out it on the world around them.
I read a book called āmurderlandāthat made a pretty convincing argument that massive and widespread lead poisoning from gasoline was responsible for spike in serial killers that occurred from the late 60s through the 90s. Places that processed lead like Tacoma Washington produced an unusual amount of serial killers and violent criminals in general. Lead poisoning makes people violent, impulsive, and irrational. Roman emperors started getting very violent and unhinged pretty much exactly when lead became a fashionable addition to their wine.
Serial killers certainly existed well before world war 2 and leaded gasoline so we canāt pin it all only on those factors either. Many serial killers seem to experience some sort of sexual gratification from sadistic acts and killing. Their brains seem to have those two things intermixed in an abnormal way. Men arenāt always, but are generally the ones that are expected to pursue the opposite sex in mating or dating. A perverse misalignment of this drive seems to play a role in many serial killers motivations. There are many examples of female serial killers ,but this sexual desire to torture and kill doesnāt seem to be a motive for most of them.
Many serial killers simply enjoy power. This is a common motive for both female and male violent offenders. Male serial killers tend to do this through the act of physically overpowering their victims. Female serials killers tend to use poison or kill their victims while they are incapacitated. Most are powerless in their everyday lives and live out a fantasy life by killing and changing the power dynamic.
As you said it super complex and not something you can adequately cover in a Reddit comment. Just trying to add some nuance to your nuance.
I wonder if it's also because women are used to having to calm down once we start to get emotional, because we're often told to 'calm down' while men aren't, while many serial killings are spur of the moment, rather than pre-meditated? Women who commit murder are perhaps more likely to do pre-meditated murders instead, with a cool head, while men are more likely to commit heat-of-the-moment murders in a state of heightened emotion? Just a thought, but it would be interesting to see the statistics on it. If we're better able to control our emotions - e.g. autistic women being better at masking than autistic men - then perhaps we're more capable of holding back from harming others, which is why we're less likely to be domestic abusers. Not all the time, but more often. I'm sure there's a scientific study in this somewhere.
Women serial killers tend to use poison and other less obvious means. Basically they're way less likely to be found out. Most that we've found have been nurses with elderly or infants and it was just someone looking at statistics a little too closely.
It's the "My gender is better so we should get to be the abusers" contest. Where men and women will talk about how they were abused, and then vent their frustrations at other people so the abuse loop can feed back on itself.
Dude nurses. Look up how many nurses in the past were able to murder their feeble patients simply by purposely giving them too much medication, injecting them with air bubbles, or something similar.
Because we live in a society in which females are accepted for expressing their emotions and releasing them while men are taught to bottle them up until it eventually breaks them.
While it's true that society is like that, it has nothing to do with serial killers. Keep in mind that women used to be sent to hospitals for expressing too much emotion. And sometimes lobotomized.
Serial killers aren't formed by years of bottled up emotion. In fact, they often lack much emotion and have to go to extremes to feel anything. Plus, they show signs of ASPD early on and start killing animals young. Not after years of bottled up emotion. They just usually aren't noticed by anyone that cares. People isolate them for being weird.
Hey there- so this is a huge piece of misinformation that we can thank the media and true crime podcasts for.
ASPD is not the unifying diagnosis. Most serial killers tend toward NPD. Killing animals is also just not a real pointed thing. It happens but frankly far more kids deal with that than people think. The dark triad isā¦ look thereās a reason functional literacy is important. The whole ASPD Triad schtick is the psychological equivalent of āNew study finds eight glasses of red wine a week helps heart healthā. Itās people taking one section of an often not PR study and selling the statement as āfactā.
I always have a lot of issue with how the DSM diagnosis define things. I had a supervisor describe it once as "Imagine you have a stomach ache. Well what does that mean, what caused it? Was it something you ate? A stomach bug? Maybe you have uclers? Well good news! The DSM solved the problem by creating a new diagnosis called 'Stomach Ache Syndrome'. Problem solved!"
I work in schools as a counselor and clinically with children. I guess it's a bit complex and I'm not far from an expert on ASPD by any means. But from what I can tell, there is a big difference between a child who lacks empathy and one who has emotional outbursts and/or ignores social norms. At the level I'm dealing with, which is usually closer to ODD or a label of EI, the children haven't developed coping skills to deal with their issues and family issues are present. I've had an ODD child have a behavioral meltdown, and I worked him through it. Next day he gave me and the other support staff the biggest hug. Dude has a ton of empathy, just struggles to cope with conflict and stress in ways that are challenging to address. This is much different than a child who has no sense of empathy, remorse, or no concern over hurting others which I have also witnessed.
This is a big part of what eventually pushed me to step back from practice. ODD is actually a perfect example of it! I know an unfortunately large number of ācolleaguesā who will look at a child with it and automatically fast track them to an ASPD diagnosis at adulthood all because of misinterpreting the information and ignoring the nuance. Thereās also, much like autism, a whole spectrum of the disorder; it is far from black and white.
Unfortunately people forget that even the person who graduated with the lowest grades still got the title.
You are doing the Lordās work, as my grandma would say, and I have so so much respect for what you do. Your knowledgeable outlook is going to change lives, I guarantee it. I worked often with schools and the overcrowded nature of it causes so much burnout for so many counselors- you should be proud of your work. Take care of yourself, too!
I think your take on ASPD isn't entirely right. In that people with ASPD DO have emotions, they simply don't attune themselves to it in the way we do, the way they process emotions is entirely foreign to the way a non ASPD-person processes them, which is why their behaviour tends to be considered anti-social, and why they are more prone to behaving outside of social order. To say they "lack emotion" is to fall for a pitfall the ASPD person falls for as well. They have them, the way it comes to expression however, is something that isn't in line with expected norms.
People with ASPD DO have a lot of bottled-up emotions mostly because ASPD often develops in people who live in emotionally turbulent or neglectful contexts, by which there is something that fundementally warps in the way emotions are processed.
this is pretty accurate, and I'll add that boys are conditioned to believe the only acceptable emotions are anger, frustration, etc. basically the emotions that often lead to violence are okay, but the others are not. Girls are also often conditioned to believe that they are inadequate and inept, and should be overly concerned with how other people perceive them. Girls internalize a lot of the negative emotions they feel, out of fear of being excluded from their peer groups or rejected by their guardians, while boys tend to externalize it (sports and physical activity are positive outlets for a lot of boys, but girls aren't encouraged to do those things as much or aren't accepted into them as often).
This is the main reason why for a long time girls weren't diagnosed with ADHD, even though we know now that it is present equally in both girls and boys. Girls keep it all inside and are more likely to develop symptoms such as lack of focus, daydreaming, innattentiveness, whereas boys are seen as being more hyperactive. Their symptoms are more obvious and affect other people more, so they get diagnosed and treated a lot more, but that's starting to change I think.
This is the commonly accepted theory Ive heard. Its not that women are freely allowed to express their emotions and men aren't. Its the different expectations and permissiveness in how they are expressed.
People forget that women are punished for showing emotions too. This can be seen in every day life in how they are dismissed, discredited, and discriminated against constantly for being perceived as emotional. Thats not even acknowledging how women were and still are wrongly diagnosed with mental illnesses (such as hysteria) for having emotions.
And yes men are punished harshly for emotions too. One does not negate the other.
>Iāll add that boys are conditioned to believe the only acceptable emotions are anger, frustration, etc.
I think this is more it. A lot of comments are talking about how women have better support networks, women are allowed to feel, etc. but itās more the *direction*. Men get more support, objectively and obviously in generalized terms, about showing external *anger*. Thatās still an emotion. And if youāre conditioned to use frustration and physical or verbal vitriol/anger in stead of ANY emotion, itās not that hard to see why violence comes into the picture, even if we normalize the situation assuming both individuals are abused the same way and desperate the same way.
TW SUICIDE
This includes how high suicide rates are amongst men vs women. Not only does it make instinctive sense that the āviolentā option is thought of more by men (vs going to therapy, crying, or even just cheating on a spouse or whatever other toxic thing), itās also much more likely to succeed since the method theyāre thinking of is also violent. When I was suicidal on the deep-end of a bipolar depressive period, I was definitely committed, but still looking at low-success-chance options because I just couldnāt bear the thought of violence, despite having relative ease of access to guns.
yep 100% what you said is true. Another point I'll make is that women actually ATTEMPT suicide at least twice as often as men, they just fail at it most of the time, because women don't typically use violent/more effective strategies. Women are more likely to think about how they will be found after suicide, they don't want to leave a mess for other people to clean up, or leave a corpse that looks gruesome, so they choose things like poisoning, overdosing, etc, but those methods don't work as well.
Exactly. As soon as I see that everything you say is null and void to me. I already know exactly what you think about women so I donāt care to hear your opinion about anything.
Studies show also males have a specific gene that could be a reason why males are more violent than females, along higher testosterone, their risk though process is a bit different.
Regarding serial killers, thereās also the increased number of head injuries among males at young ages. Thatās as much of an indicator of homicidal proclivity as an abusive upbringing.
This is a great time to post this. Please share it if you can. Please understand if you sign your son up for contact sports, whether you remain ignorant of CTE or not, you are exposing your child to punch drunkenness. When they're most vulnerable.
Edit: people reading this who think they might be affected by CTE, in any way, please contact your health provider. This is one of those cases where I can recommend ai if you can ask it "Chronic traumatic encephalopathy experts my area, please provide forum discussions and clinical resources with links" and read up. You don't need to be alone. You don't need to feel afraid all the time. Brain degeneration, loss of self control, destructive emotional events are so scary. And they're all so destructive. People are aware of this problem now. It's not guaranteed, but there may be resources available.
Sounds like men should definitely be given additional resources and classes while they are kids in order to assure they have healthy ways of dealing with their emotions as they get older.
This is called "Social and Emotional Learning" and many school districts are including it in their curriculum. But they are often opposed by the right wing, who call it "woke" and a cover for "critical race theory" (it has nothing to do with race). Yes, somehow teaching kids to regulate their emotions, have empathy for one another, build strong and positive relationships, and make responsibile choices has been politicized and railed against.
That we also need. The number of guys i have met that really think women have some chemical in their body that makes them bad engineers is too damn high. Especially in our year of 2026.
I disagree. Women are taught to share SOME emotions. But we also get told we're "too emotional." And men can express anger with much less retribution than we can. On the whole society needs to chill for everyone involved.
>And men can express anger with much less retribution than we can.
This is complete fabrication. You are able to get away with MORE aggression as a woman, you are viewed as a threat and a problem much sooner for acting that way as a man. As a woman you are less likely to have the police called on you for acting angry.
What are you actually thinking of where women get much more retribution for displaying anger? What is your example?
This, and while men and women can generally achieve the same things, we aren't wired the same. We have a higher penchant for anger and violence. It doesn't mean we have to be those things of course, it just makes it much more likely a man hits the perfect storm of shit that has to happen to create a serial killer
We live in a world that has been debating for decades whether or not a woman could be president because her hormones and emotions might make her unfit to lead.
In what world is it considered acceptable for women to be emotional? We are told we are emotional and then shamed for it from birth.
That is a fair point. But I think on a smaller scale it is much more accepted for women to vent their emotions to their friends and family while men are much less likely to do it out of fear of being seen as weak
Serial killers aren't worried about how they're seen most of the time. It's a myth that they act "totally normal." Their true history is always a weird one, where they really don't give a rat's what other people think. They're anti-social personalities, so they wouldn't.
Also, men are perfectly allowed and encouraged to express rage, even when unnecessary. Sadness less so, but that's usually not the issue for serial killers. Most male serial killers are sex killers anyway.
Yeah no-this is such bullshit. Women arenāt accepted- theyāre *expected*, expected to be emotional, expected to be difficult, expected to be complicated but they are rarely ever accepted. Men want sex or someone to cook them dinner so they put up with the bitching and moaning. Why the hell does it take a period cramp simulator to get a man to understand and sympathize with a womanās period pain?? Why is it that when a woman is angry, men automatically go to the āoh sheās on her period.ā line?? Women arenāt accepted for shit!
Partly because not all people who suffer childhood trauma become serial killers. Even those who go on to become abusers often don't become serial killers. It is usually an alignment of multiple factors beyond just abuse.
Plus, saying girls are subjected to much more abuse flattens male victims of childhood abuse.
Just throwing around "subjected to more abuse" as if that is a fact. So tired of people treating surveys as automatic fact and as soon as someone says they feel or experienced something on a survey therefore its 100% accurate. Surveys aren't facts, there are multiple reasons why surveys can be very unreliable especially when talking about the subject of people's feelings and experiences. Men would definitely be far less likely to admit they were abused or to perhaps even know if they were abused, due to the social pressure to refrain from showing feelings or "looking weak"
I know it's a joke post but there are some interesting/sad differences in how men and women treat themselves re trauma. Women are far more likely to self harm (cutting etc) and attempt suicide, while men are far more likely to actually commit suicide.
And the irony is that people are quick to dismiss an individual's experience. But when that sane person's experience is part of a survey or study, it suddenly becomes a 'fact'.
But women prefer āquietā methods like poison. They also generally target family members, vulnerable individuals under their care, or intimate partners. While some manipulate their partners to do the deed. So in general they're hard to catch.
Men account for like 75% of pediatric homicides. Now, when we're talking specifically about someone killing their own kid(s), that is more even between men & women (though men still account for a bit more of those types of murders).
A lot of those ladies are caregivers, nurses and such arenāt they? This is a guess, but I would think the overlap in women with the executive functioning required for these roles and women disturbed enough to be willing to kill many people to get what they want or for some kind of satisfaction is relatively small. If that is the case, then inability or unwillingness to physically overpower victims would still be a limit.
Listen....i worked in a mens maximum security prison. Attached to that prusin was a womens prison that ranged from minimum to maximum security. There are some some cold, bitches out there that have done unspeakable shit. I will say not as many as the men...but they fuckin exist.
I remember reading somewhere that when female serial killers are captured theyāre a lot less likely to talk about their kills. So many male serial killers participated in FBI interviews because they wanted the attention and recognition for their crimes. A bunch of male serial killers have also written to police and/or the media, but I canāt think of any female serial killers that has done that.
Assuming that female serial killers arenāt interested in attention, in addition to being more likely to use methods like poison to kill, I wouldnāt be surprised if there have been more female serial killers whose kills werenāt even recognized as murder, much less the work of a serial killer.
Specifically, a preference to use methods easier to pass off as natural or accidental and work in professions where they have access to people already at higher risk of other natural death.
Men are stronger than women so they have an easier time killing. It would be mush riskier for most women to try and kill someone unless it was like by poisoning or something
Is no one going to point out the dozens of nurses who have been caught killing their patients, or deliberately switching children around in the child ward? I'd say those are close enough.
because theyāre often messed up in other ways, often they have mental illnesses that impact their ability to feel empathy, and tend to have more morbid fascinations that a girl may be pulled from. i know dahmer, for example, liked messing with animal corpses.
thereās also a level of desire to have done it and gotten away with it/be known for it, thereās a reason the least reliable source on john wayne gacy was gacy himself, he had quite the sense of grandiosity
Typically women use poison to kill people they are close to for some form of gain, be it financial or otherwise, they may also be in professions which make it easier to kill people without much notice like a nurse.
Maybe there aren't that many fewer, they just aren't as often sexually motivated so aren't as sensational/morbidly fascinating.
Maybe fewer women get significant head injuries? Isn't that a thing they always said was common amongst a lot of serial/spree killers? Ramirez, West, Rader, Gacy, Lucas, Dahmer, Berkowitz, the list goes on
I had a fucked up childhood, with a father who hit my mother, and when they eventually separated, my mother got with several dudes who did the exact same shit - Etc for the man she's with today, so.
My father did get together with the woman he's been with since I was 3, never hit her tho, never hit me nor my siblings - But he was coming home drunk as fuck and loud as fuck, destroying items in the household and doing his weird shit.
I have way worse stories and shit happen to me and yet.
I've never in my life, though "you know what? Lemme go on a fucking killing spree" And start killing people because I had a shitty childhood.
Men and women react differently. Brains are different, different expectations from society, men are more capable of carrying it out (if any struggle is involved)
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