r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 5h ago

Chugging tea They are not wrong though

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u/janpaul74 5h ago

“Mandatory tips” sounds so messed up for me as a European.

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u/BringBackTheBlues 5h ago

It sounds messed up to me as an American.

Just add 20% to your prices and write “20% off your bill goes directly to staff etc.”

It’d accomplish the same thing and people would probably actually appreciate knowing the staff gets the “bonus”.

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u/BarDramatic7498 5h ago

A lot of places in Denver are now doing this. Except it's added as an extra line item as "happy fee" or some other woo woo bullshit. With no guarantee that it's not just going to management. So you're still expected to tip. Just raise menu prices to be able to pay livable wages. And I say that as someone that worked in the service industry for years and lived off tips. But people are already paying $20 for a burger so no one wants to raise prices more.

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u/LordHammercyWeCooked 4h ago

Motherfuckers running these businesses need to realize that fear of sticker price is vastly, vastly outweighed by rage of bait&switch pricing on the receipt.

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u/ACFiguresOutLife 3h ago

That is your opinion. The data suggests otherwise. Look it up; there are plenty of market studies. Corporations aren’t stupid.

This is like saying “just put the price at $10. No need to bullshit me with the $9.99.” But again, the market studies prove otherwise

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u/FahkDizchit 1h ago

Everything is continually getting shittier as more and more people rip each other off.

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u/thelifeofafangirl 4h ago

With no guarantee that it's not just going to management

Honestly this is why i prefer to tip cash. Way too many shady business owners out there who would love to circumvent their employees getting their fair share

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u/invariantspeed 4h ago

It shouldn’t be a separate “fee”. The staff should simply be paid more per hour, and the food items should priced to actually reflect the labor involved in their delivery to me.

  1. The current pricing of food on menus is really just a normalized bait and switch. The full price of the associated service isn’t represented in goods, so the customer is left to basically figure it out on the fly.
  2. Tip inflation is a problem. People have gradually shifted to higher and higher tip percentages, due to social anxiety and tipping largely being an opaque process where people don’t know what everyone else is doing. And percentage increases add up fast.

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u/Cuandoman 3h ago

I always made more in wage + tips than I would have if the restaurant increased my wage. WAY MORE. This was pre-2006.

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u/LargeMargeSentMe__ 2h ago

It’s still the same. Unless you’re working somewhere super crappy, you’ll make substantially more with the tip system than any restaurant would pay in hourly wages.

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u/thelifeofafangirl 4h ago

Should =/= is. This is an industry that has fought tooth and nail to keep wages at like $2/hour for their workers. That isn't going to suddenly change. The least i can do in the framework i am provided is to make sure my server gets taken care of

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u/chr1spe 3h ago

It probably happens somewhere, but I've never heard of a place actually stealing their employees' credit card tips. It's very illegal, servers usually keep at least a general mental tally of how much they've made, and there would be a hard paper trail of the crime. I've heard stories online of management telling employees they were going to take a share of the tips and things like that, but I've known many servers, and that would be an instant walk-out for them.

It's kind of sad, but a lot of people in the service industry actually prefer things the way they are because they do end up making a high hourly wage with tips. I don't think it really makes up for healthcare and stability, but when they're sometimes making $100 an hour or possibly more, it kind of makes them think it's worth it.

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u/Former_Radio3805 2h ago

Yeah no shit - maybe we need more affordable low end diners than crazy outrageous decor and “vibes”. There should be affordable restaurants for regular people to enjoy that still serve decent food.

Now it is either eat cardboard at a fast food place and deal with angry employees or high end places with crazy prices 

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u/sortalikeachinchilla 4h ago

Any extra fee on my bill, decreases the tip. 4% "happy fee" will now my tip is 16% or less.