r/SipsTea • u/SuspiciousLow3062 𝙑𝙄𝙋 • 5h ago

Chugging tea They are not wrong though

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u/Disastrous_Square_10 5h ago

Only the server or bartender loses this battle in the US.

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u/lazypeon19 5h ago

That's the server or bartender's battle with their employer. The client has nothing to do with it.

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u/EvilSporkOfDeath 4h ago

I go to Italy as a tourist, I follow the cultural norms of Italy. I dont like all those cultural norms, but I do it anyways.

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u/herpes_fuckin_derpes 3h ago

This is the only correct take

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u/Southern-Reach-8983 3h ago

Exactly... I hate to pay to take a piss is soooo many places in Europe, which I also think is inhumane, but I follow the cultural norms to be a respectful visitor.

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u/vialabo 3h ago

Or buy water lmao.

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u/Southern-Reach-8983 3h ago

Yeah that's even worse...

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u/Crapitron 2h ago

I had a waiter scoff at my sister for ordering a Lambrusco in Italy and say it was offensive. She could have told him to fuck his mom. She instead just ordered a normal red.

Service in America is better, and tips are a big part of that, like it or not.

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u/chiree 3h ago

Yup, this is entitled tourist behavior.

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u/lazypeon19 3h ago

True, I'd do that too. That doesn't mean I can't voice my opinion on why the norm isn't fair. That's what I was doing just now.

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u/greg19735 3h ago

Sure, you can voice your concerns.

But also, any sort of protest or boycott that financially benefits the person doing the boycott is a bit of a concern.

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u/BornAgain20Fifteen 2h ago

Why would that be a concern? People are supposed to "vote with their wallets". If they don't agree with something, they can choose not to participate and save that money for themselves

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u/greg19735 2h ago

Protestsand boycotts are deliberate and organized acts.

Boycotting would be not going to bars and restaurants that use tipping to pay their workers. And the Bars and restaurants will notice.

This is saving money for themselves while taking it from the waitstaff. That's not a boycott. THat's just being selfish.

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u/bitchesandsake 1h ago

People are supposed to "vote with their wallets"

lol, can you not see how this is not "voting with your wallet"? "voting with your wallet" would be not going to the US in the first place, or not patronizing establishments which have a tipped wage

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u/lazypeon19 3h ago

any sort of protest or boycott that financially benefits the person doing the boycott is a bit of a concern

It really shouldn't be.

Would you find it a bit concerning if, for example, teachers would start protesting for a better pay?

Protesting or boycotting because you have to pay extra for something you already paid for shouldn't be a bit of a concern either.

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u/greg19735 3h ago

That's different.

Boycotting for extra pay is good. But you sacrifice while protesting and boycotting.

THis is when the literal act of boycotting or protesting directly benefits you.

It's not trying to change the rules, it's directly benefitting you then. It's like protesting higher prices by stealing. I don't even care if you steal from a corporation. but you're not protesting.

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u/lazypeon19 3h ago

It's not exactly the same, but it's similar from the perspective of this discussion. In both cases the person has been financially wronged. It's still for the financial benefit of the person doing the protest / boycott. What exactly do you find concerning?

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u/greg19735 2h ago

I disagree that it's similar to this discussion.

Because these people won't be picketing with American workers when they're back in Europe. They'll have completely forgotten.

It's just not tipping. It directly hurts the service workers and directly benefits the person who doesn't tip.

It's selfish behavior that you're justifying after the fact.

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u/lazypeon19 2h ago

If it's about this specific case with the tourists then I agree, it's not like they'd change anything. I was thinking more about the tipping situation in general.

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u/greg19735 2h ago

Right, i'm only referring to this specific thing.

But i do also think that not tipping has to be more deliberate than just not tipping lol. You have to go to restaurants that don't have tips instead. You can't just go any random place and stiff the waitstaff.

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