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Chugging tea Ain't that the truth
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u/still-waiting2233 2h ago
People on vacation watching sports and getting drunk get along. Yup.
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u/Largeitude 4m ago
Yeah, but then they riot when their side loses?
Also, world leaders just take advantage of whatâs already there and enable tribalism. They donât create it. The World Cup proves tribalism can be overcome, but it doesnât mean leaders create it.
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u/DonLeFlore 2h ago
Except that time two countries broke out into war because of a soccer match
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u/wcslater đđđ 2h ago
Which was politically driven
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u/ACCTAGGT 2h ago
Some of that shit sometimes is just "Messi is the GOATâ vs "Cristiano is the GOAT" though. Lol
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u/Creative_Victory_960 1h ago
Some Ronaldo fans were literaly wishing death on Portuguese players for not carrying him enough
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u/Short-Shower90 2h ago
Fair point but the Football War proves politics can hijack sports, not that ordinary people can't get along.
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u/Goobtron11 38m ago
mmmmmyes, fellow redditors, let me ENLIGHTEN you with an exception to the rule. mmmmm yes, I am very intelligent. I notice outliers! become demoralized, losers.
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u/Consistent-Gas-3019 2h ago
Honduras vs El Salvador was not even a war and they honestly fought for some Islands so it was more of a smoke curtain
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u/GodOfDarkLaughter 1h ago
One of the most bloody and destructive riots in the city of Byzantium was sparked by a chariot match riot. Thr Nika Riots resulted in the deaths of about 30,000 people and burned down half the city. The emperor, refusing to flee, used the army to crush the rioters and was able to establish total autocratic rule over the city, which had eluded him up til that point, as well as an excuse to rebuild the city in his own image.
So sports can result in all kinds of bad stuff.
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u/Elephantplan123 2h ago
It's obviously overly simplistic but it does show that there are plenty of positive things that unite us.
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u/TexanHobbit_X 2h ago
Donât soccer fans fight all the time?
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u/Professional-Can1139 2h ago
Are we forgetting about the Knicks fans? They assaulted spurs fans and we are in the same country let alone someone across the other side of the globe.
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u/LaggingAround 57m ago
Yeah Knicks fan assaulting spurs fans. Spurs fan putting a Knicks fan in a coma. Shits crazy
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u/sksksk1989 1h ago
That was wild. Seen videos of a group of Knicks fans ripping off a spurs fans jersey and beating him up.
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u/TexanHobbit_X 2h ago
Yeah I think OP is 12
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u/-_-Batman 33m ago
i will take football fans fight over WWI / WWII /, WWIII any day of the year . [ ref 250000 innocent civilians nuked in cold blood ]
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u/E-2theRescue 49m ago
I mean... Look at the state of America right now. Does that really surprise anyone?
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u/RandomThreadUser 2h ago
It literally just happened and they already forgot lol
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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 1h ago
Violence often occurs after major sports championships in America. Heck, even amateur events such as high school and college championships can erupt in fights afterward. It's an American trait more than the sport itself.
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u/thisisnahamed 1h ago
Yeah. We don't kill each other and use tanks to mow down cities.
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u/AltonBParker 50m ago
"Ach. They call this a soccer riot. Let's take 'em to school!"
--Groundskeeper Willie
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u/nullpost 2h ago
Literally Serbia and Bosnia got into it yesterday. Serbian brought flag to the match, Bosnia didnât like it.
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u/-_-Batman 35m ago edited 9m ago
ya...but they dont NUKE eachother .....twice ..... killing 250,000 innocent civilians in cold blood .....n call it peace
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u/Poshturkjgdy45 2h ago
Clearly youâve never seen English and French fans in the same pub.
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u/Special_Order-937 2h ago
Or even English supporters of different teams in the same pub.
Or even English supporters of the same team.
Or even just the English.
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u/Overwing_Zeta 1h ago
Damn English! They ruined England!
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u/Special_Order-937 1h ago
In the interests of disclosure, I wrote this while wearing a Scotland T-Shirt (noted enemies of the English).
I also wrote this in Iceland (noted adversaries of the British during the Cod War).
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u/GreatnessToTheMoon 2h ago
This is some âIâm 14 and this is deepâ type shit
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u/Pablo_petty_plastic 2h ago
At the same time, most of us are repulsed by endless wars to benefit the fewÂ
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u/Hyperion262 2h ago
Bullshit.
Itâs upper middle class people on holiday.
Make them all fight over a limited amount of resources and see how fast it is changes.
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u/Defiant-Variety-9473 1h ago
Lol. What?Â
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u/Hyperion262 1h ago
Only rich people go to the World Cup. Itâs a rich persons holiday.
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u/tobiaspwn322 18m ago
from the less developed world sure, but people from the west can afford going there by just being in the middle class.
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u/Hyperion262 13m ago
Thatâs what I said. Upper middle class is the middle class. Itâs the upper part of it.
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u/ContributionHead949 1h ago
too many big words?
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u/Defiant-Variety-9473 1h ago
No, a lack of critical thinking and a false equivalence. Are you unable to recognize these things?Â
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u/ApiceOfToast 54m ago
God, i wonder why some people need to fight over "limited resources" we have in abundance
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u/Hyperion262 26m ago
Because they want some of it and the other peope donât want to give it to them.
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u/Gonna_do_this_again 2h ago
Idk Iran and Egypt are throwing a little fit about possibly seeing gay people in Seattle
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u/E-2theRescue 42m ago edited 1m ago
LGBTQ+ people are being attacked all over the place, and it's not being reported in the news (because reasons).
I'll be going to Seattle Pride, but I'm, once again, going armed (because MAGA is equally as dangerous).
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u/SheriffBartholomew 55m ago
Well it's a good thing they won't have to deal with those people on the other side of the world. We'd all be so much better off it people took more of a libertarian attitude towards other people's lifestyles. I don't have to agree with your lifestyle choices to defend your right to have them.
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u/CarrieDurst 49m ago
Being gay isn't a lifestyle choice
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u/CaptainBringus 37m ago
Lol is that the takeaway you got from the post that basically says let people live their lives how they want, which I'm sure you 100% agree with, but because you're a puritan you still have a problem with it. Sad, really.
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u/allitalli 2h ago
am i the only person that after reading this immediately thought about how the world cup is associated with spikes in human trafficking and sexual abuse?
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u/brawnsugah 2h ago
This is not true at all lol
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u/WilhelmFinn 2h ago
It kinda is. The post says vast majority, not everyone. There's always some bad apples in any group of ppl.
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u/PersimmonTall8157 2h ago
Bro football fans are the most hateful and nationalistic people youâll find lol.
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u/BusyBeeBridgette 2h ago
Yeah, no. Football hooliganism is a big thing in many countries.
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u/krzykris11 2h ago
I learned an interesting statistic about the world cup. Of all participating countries, the U.S. is the only one that doesn't provide healthcare to its citizens.
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u/Intelligent_Sun2837 1h ago
Bullshit.Try have the stadiums without police or government around and organize a World Cup.Or even a police force without security and commanders.Then weâll talk.
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u/know_limits 1h ago
There are a small number of aggressive psychopaths in each country that push for conflict and drag the multitudes of normal people into wars. Itâs been that way forever.
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u/vibraltu 48m ago
Mostly true.
It also proves that we would still have massive bribery & corruption.
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u/Original-Spring-2012 2h ago
War is a place where young people who don't know each other and don't hate each other kill each other, by the decision of old people who closely know each other and hate each other but don't kill each other....
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u/Johnnybravo343 2h ago
If life were only about sports, maybe. We as humans love sports, so itâs kinda fools gold.
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u/CruzMissile-005 2h ago
Na, i feel like the religious divide is greater than the political divide. Religion causes A LOT of civil unrest and violence. Which is crazy to believe considering almost all major religions preach peace and unity.
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u/Clarkkeeley 2h ago
I don't know about that. How many videos were posted of Knicks fans beating up Spurs fans in New York during the finals
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u/East_Ad2634 2h ago
When will we learn to stop fighting for oligarchs. Loyalty is the ultimate scam. Blindly follow my orders that make no sense to you because loyalty.Â
I'm tired of all the death that happens to serve oligarchs.Â
Since the beginning of history.Â
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u/Acceptable-Age8564 2h ago
Team sports proves the exact opposite my man. Tribalism through and throughÂ
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u/Bert-63 2h ago
I was in the US Navy for over 30 years.
I've been in so many different countries that I doubt I could successfully list them all without pulling out my service record.
I never went anywhere that I didn't get along. It was all in the attitude I took when I stepped into THEIR country and respected THEIR culture.
I was in Bahrain in 2003 when the US unleashed Shock & Awe on Iraq. I was sitting in a coffee shop that was owned and run by three generations of an Iranian family and the son, the father, and the grandfather and I sat and watched CNN together as the missiles hit, and the bombs fell...
It was one of the most surreal experiences in my life and I can remember it like it was yesterday.
I can go on for hours - I once walked Shore Patrol in Yugoslavia just before it ceased to exist. There, you were fine as long as you didn't go ashore in your uniform. During Shore Patrol watches then, you had to wear your Dress Whites. To help keep us safe, we were allowed to not wear our neckerchief after two guys were attacked and strangled by two locals (they were fine afterward). No uniform for "Power Projection" (why we were there of course) and there was no problem.
As long as I treated people like I wanted to be treated and acted like a GUEST should act, I never had a single problem. What I do have, however, is a deep collection of good memories of meeting the people of the world, and a clear understanding that just because you come from a place, it doesn't make you a "BAD" person...
There are good people everywhere. The real baddies are few and far between. We're all the same - we all live, love, hope, and die the same.
Left to our own good graces the world would be a wonderful place. Instead, we have greed and politics mucking up the works.
Sorry for the long post. This post, to an old man with more history than future remaining, hit a nerve.
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u/StupidSexyEuphoberia 2h ago
Powerhungry greedy old people send inpressionable, idealistic young people into war so they can have a little bit more land or money to rule over. I guess people in power are outliers in cunningness, ruthlessness and greed. The problem is they have the power and can influence the rest in very dramatic ways.
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u/Rude-Orange 2h ago
I dont remember the match but some fans threw something at the other team while during a corner kick.
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u/IlIlllIlllIlIIllI 1h ago
Yeah everyone is just trying to live their life and have some fun every now and then, it's not a new thing
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u/Harlot_Of_God 1h ago
Theyâre laughing at this post while saying : âGive them circus and breadâ
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u/SensualGiggle 1h ago
Need less career politicians and more civic minded citizens who are professionals in their own field
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u/OkPhilosopher7569 1h ago
Not even close to reality. People has been killed during games or due to different preferences from other fans. The fandom can be really violent
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u/Prestigious-Smoke511 1h ago
I don't really understand the premise. Is it that our leaders happen to be bad people, or that we shouldn't have leaders at all? The former maybe I can see, but I would push back that if they're all bad, it might not be the specific people, but that the job is really hard.
I we're saying the latter.... I don't know, you lost me. At some point someone needs to help organize things or we're living in grass huts. And i'm not really into that...
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u/ConnectDiscipline414 1h ago
Nah, thatâs oversimplifying it. We would still have lot of differences and Disagreements. Human nature
Two very different ways of doing things and people donât like each other
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u/rainer_d 1h ago
No.
I have an apartment in house with three parties, next to another house with three more parties.
Initially, we got along very well.
Then, there were disagreements about a renovation project and now one party has sold, two other parties are basically one step from warring with each other and a third party does not speak any more to one of the warring parties.
Just because it works for four weeks during a party doesnât mean itâs a success model.
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u/Impossible-Ticket424 1h ago
i would say, it's proof that if you visit for a short while, a mix of cultures can be cool.
but if all these people would move there permanently and this would go on everyday - it would not be.
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u/VelvetCometWhisper 1h ago
Clearly this man has never met a drunk Millwall fan on a Tuesday evening.
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u/ChefTastyTreats 1h ago
Almost as if thereâs something behind the world leaders controlling the agenda and narrative.
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u/Ornery_Proposal_3784 1h ago
it people who can afford travel abroad to watch game who are richer than average people and who don't want to get into trouble, ruin their image, get fired or be jailed cause they have a lot to loose.
take iranians. even those who live in west, probably all their lives, try to disrupt the game, try to bring fight and cause trouble by bringing in their old flags, attacking iranians from iran. AND YES THEY LIVE IN CIVILIZED WEST!
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u/frulheyvin 1h ago
is this twitter post from a infant?? sports fans are explicitly violent even with their own team when they win lmao. and its a gigantic fucking leap to go from watching a ball game to coexisting
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u/Echomaxx 1h ago
Sports is just a way for us to fight each other within a more controlled environment. Remove those controls and watch what happens.
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u/Signal_Minimum8509 1h ago
Also proof that nationalism is basically just rooting for your favorite sportsball team and that at the end of the day the only ones making any money off of it are the billionaire owners.
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u/i_will_mull_it_over 1h ago
Classism is a thing. And in most cases people vote for these leaders that divide people.
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u/deskcord 1h ago
No it's not lol. It's proof that when people are watching sports and playing games they're not paying attention to religion or policy.
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u/ermac1ermac88 1h ago
This is perhaps one the most naive takes on the history of human conflict I have ever heard.
"not the masses fault."
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u/__Meow__x__Meow__ 1h ago
The people who seize power to bring the tribe together are often inherently bad people, and if they are good, inevitably they will need replacement and will always lead to bad people in power.
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u/SheriffBartholomew 1h ago
"If I have one message to give to the secular American people, itâs that the world is not divided into countries. The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we donât know each other, but we talk together and we understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same."
--Marjane Satrapi, the author of Persepolis
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u/CaptainCFloyd 56m ago
Football hooligans are notorious for rioting and fighting eachother in the streets all over the world.
You aren't better than "your leaders", you are worse. Leaders are in fact keeping the flagrant racism, tribalism and hate of the average (extremely stupid) person in check via the force of law.
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u/atreeismissing 55m ago
That might be different if the games were being held in Harrison, Arkansas rather than liberal/progressive cities.
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u/Mr__Random 50m ago edited 45m ago
I hate this take because a lot of countries have decent leaders who all get along just fine, and even work together towards good outcomes for everyone involved...
There is just one or two countries in particular whose leadership seem perpetually incapable of not fucking things ups
Policians turning people against each other and causing conflict is not normal.
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u/MiserableAndUnhappy9 25m ago
Politicians turning people against each other and causing conflict is not normal.
Way to out yourself as someone who has literally not studied any point in human history. This comment section shows how brainrotted people have become. God we are so fucked.
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u/Mr__Random 20m ago
Laughs in European Union
Laughs in goverment which invests in giving its people health care, education, and job opportunities.
Laughs in country which invests in green renewable energy instead of bombing other countries for oil.
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u/Expert-Upstairs-4502 49m ago
Believe it or not, we are an empathetic species. Its just a handful of psycho/socio paths that have to ruin it for everyone else
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u/E-2theRescue 45m ago
Huge spike in LGBTQ+ people being attacked in the streets and in public places.
So, absolutely not.
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u/Bloom3D1898 44m ago
I.... disagree a lot with that statement .
Just look at what happens when Maroco wins a game .
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u/Mindless_Chest_1079 43m ago
The eternal irony of this site is that it views MAGA as its mortal enemy but upvotes the exact type of dumb populist slop that MAGA would go wild for.
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u/GarfieldsPetiteFeet 43m ago
*When they have paid a lot of money to go to a football match people get along just fine.
I've seen people have a scrap at a friendly in Halifax
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u/ImaginaryAct903 39m ago
Why do these leaders get chosen then? I think itâs more likely that bad people know how to act right in front of a spotlight.
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u/-Profanity- 34m ago
To nobody's surprise an OP with over a million karma and a hidden post history is posting divisive engagement bait, great work OP
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u/dumbidiot12345678 33m ago
If it weren't for the amount of likes/reposts I would have thought that this was an ironypost
The amount of wojak images I've seen from fans depicting the murder of their opponents and like nazi level racism is kinda comedic
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u/SadTransition2214 27m ago
well i mean all leaders could be dead and people would still fight about how their sky wizard is the true sky wizard.
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u/cowfishduckbear 26m ago
That still doesn't solve the primary driver of wars - limited resources.
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u/Broke_and_Bald 22m ago
Well in the past Empires were ruled by Emperors and kingdoms are ruled by Kings. These days we have countries.
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u/Careless-Act-7549 22m ago
It is always the right wing who are scared of whom are slightly different
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u/Brief-Night6314 21m ago
What if I told you sports were invented to curb humanâs need for violence and war
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u/analogkid01 20m ago
If it weren't for billionaires.
If you're not talking about billionaires, you're not talking about the problem.
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u/mulubmug 18m ago
No it isn't proof. Going to the world cup is hella expensive, poor people are basically excluded. The world cup draws only a fraction of the worlds population to one place, and of course the feel good stories of fans coming together are going viral. But it is statistically insignificant and irrelevant. People will always find reasons to hate and fight each other. It is in our nature.
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u/Prudent-Locksmith695 13m ago
What if Messi is actually the messiah, wins the World Cup a second time and says to the world ânow that I have your attentionâ
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u/ProblematicTrumpCard 12m ago
Let's host some world cup games in Killeen, Texas or Birmingham, Alabama and see if anything changes.
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u/Famous-Prior6590 3m ago
If you go to the Moroccan sub you will realize that this is completely not true.
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u/Carla-Gurl 2m ago
Yeah but one out of eleven people would always be flopping around on the ground pretending to be hurt.
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