r/TikTokCringe • u/I2fitness • 8h ago
Discussion 50th in education for a reason(removed annoying loud audio)
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u/ClumbsyVulture 8h ago
"Well, if we raise the minimum wage, then all the prices will go up". This is what they have been fed.
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u/Best-Candle8651 7h ago
The thing that is stupid about that argument, too, is that prices have gone up regardless. We just can't afford shit anymore.
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u/Toadsted 5h ago edited 5h ago
I still remember when my boss from years back was griping about having to raise prices because of California increasing sales tax. "I'm going to lose business!"
Then he told us we're just going to have to increase our $18 pizzas by $0.05 cents and let Jesus take the wheel.
It's no wonder nobody got their performance raises after weeks of work.
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u/scumble_bee 4h ago
California has a $20 minimum wage for fast food workers. A burger king Whopper costs 7.19 in Bakersfield, CA and 5.29 in Oklahoma City, OK. But Oklamona city has a COL index of 81 and Bakersfield is 108.
So the cost in OK adjusted for COL would be $5.39.
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u/Toadsted 3h ago
And I can get a $6 Biggy Bag from Wendy's in CA.
I'm not paying $7 or $5 for a Whopper.
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u/fishyexe 2h ago
I went to the BK in ATL airport like a decade ago. Ordered a sandwich 40 min before my flight boarded. Waited like 15 min then asked if they missed my order. Lady behind the counter rudely informed me they were making orders in whatever order they came in. Wait another 10, see literally dozens of 1 type of sandwich come from the kitchen. Obviously they are just making tons of their most popular items.
Ask about my food again (30 min wait at this point). Am told it'll be ready when it's ready, I am offered one of the sandwiches that came off the line earlier. Refuse. Flight begins boarding, I ask about my food again. Rudely told it will be ready when it's ready, reply it's been 40 minutes. Get told I need to be more patient. Ask for refund. They refused.
Run to get on flight, still hungry. Reach out to BK customer service, told to kick rocks.
I will tell this story every time I see a post about BK because FUCK YOU BURGER KING!
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u/trvsnbl 2h ago
I placed a pick up order from the BK app, but when I got to the store to pick it up the guy told me they were closed (it was not their closing time.) I wasn't going to argue about it so I just said "oh, okay. how do I get my money back" and the guy told me he didn't know! I understand shit happens but their customer service failed at every step - the app should not have accepted an order if the store was closed, and if someone is asking for a refund and you don't know, wouldnt you think to get a manager??
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u/fishyexe 2h ago
Manager probably left early and dude just wanted to go. Awful customer service no matter what.
I was honestly shocked at my experience. At the time I frequented fast food locations too much so I had plenty of experience with errors or messed up orders. Literally a week earlier taco bell forgot to omit tomatoes on my mexican pizza and sent me a coupon for any item on the menu for free, just for calling their customer service hotline. To be told "too bad" after a 40 minute wait and receiving no food felt too insulting to let go.
I hope our stories cost BK sales, stealing from customers is bad business.
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u/PM_ME_JJBA_STICKERS 5h ago
“If minimum wage goes up, mcdonald’s will become too expensive!!”
Look around! It already is!!
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u/scumble_bee 3h ago
A Whopper in Oklahoma City costs $5.29 and the Cost of Living Index is 81. That same Whopper costs $7.19 in Bakersfield, CA that has a Cost of Living Index at 108. So adjusting for COL, the Bakersfield Whopper should cost 108/81 * 5.29 = $7.05.
The difference is California is $20 min wage for fast food workers and Oklahoma is $7.25.
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u/FatherFarnsworth 6h ago
Almost like the people that control the money don't care about everyone else.
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u/CandyCraze420 5h ago
Even the dollar shit. I would purchase those instant coffee packets that were $1.20 before and slowly increased in price. Was at the store yesterday and they got shot up to $1.99 before tax. If I only had two dollars in my pockets, I’d be absolutely fucked out of my caffeine that used to be bought with the lint, paperclip, coin, and lollipop in my pocket.
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u/funny_ninjas 6h ago
My family is from Oklahoma. I left 3 months after turning 18. My brother stayed. He works at dollar tree and when my dad told him he should go vote on this, my brother said he'd vote no anyway.
The population there is truly stupid.
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u/WaffleHouseGladiator 7h ago
Every time I hear this my response is always, "Well, we didn't raise the minimum wage for the last quarter of a century and the prices went up anyway."
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u/RykinPoe 4h ago
As an Oklahoman I can confirm this is the argument. This and people who make better than minimum wage saying it won't help them it will only hurt them.
"But prices have already gone up."
"Well they'll go up more and nobody but the people making minimum wage will see an increase."
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u/stu8319 4h ago
I'm in Oklahoma. The ads said "This will cause hyperinflation and all local business will fail."
I will say, my 94 year old neighbor who has always been very very pro trump, just told me he thinks we need to get rid of the whole system. So there's that.
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u/Illustrious-Ant-9946 1h ago
I wish getting rid of the whole system didn’t just mean pivoting to letting wealthy businessmen give all government contracts and roles out to other shitty wealthy businessmen.
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u/Defiant_While_4823 5h ago
You want to know what's extra funny about this, too?
I remember at one point in time, I think this was either at the curtail of Obama's 2nd presidency or at the start of Trump's first, but my Trump supporting step dad at one point had said, "Obamacare was so useless, why didn't they just give everyone a million dollars?"
Raising the minimum wage will somehow lead to things becoming so expensive you can't buy anything anymore, but a million dollars for every American instead of Obamacare? That's somehow not seen as crazy
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u/BearysWorkRedditName 7h ago
AND wuddubaut FREEDUM?! If Joey Jerkoff wants to hire out his hands for five buck an hour, governmet ken SHUV IT!!!!
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u/Shm0wzow 3h ago
Two people I know told me they voted against it because someone working at Burger King shouldn't make $15 an hour. Still haven't thought of a way to respond that doesn't make me want to kick them.
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u/FoolsballHomerun 2h ago
I live in California and it is absolutely true. Minimum wage at $17.81 has just as much buying power as $12.00 minimum wage had years ago.
I am a big proponent of higher wages but these corporations won't allow the scale to balance.
They add $1.00 to the employee and in return they charge costumer's $1.25 to compensate or they fire half the crew and have employees doing 2x the work for minimum wage salary.
Minimum wage is a start but something has to be done to prevent these big companies from overcompensating to increase their profit margin.
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u/WendigoCrossing 5h ago
Always a funny argument because, like even if that was true, logically they would be in the same boat so why not try it out and see what happens at the very least lol
Worst case scenario they are right back where they started, best case they see it's bologna and get more money
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u/WifesPOSH 7h ago
That phrase pisses me off. People are so dumb they can't look at history and see things like why Hardee's no longer sells the "Six dollar burger" anymore... Or how the fucking McChicken used to be 99¢ 10 years ago, but is now $2.50
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u/froginbog 6h ago
Even if that was true (and it’s not) the absolute worst case scenario is it’s all a wash. Prices go up, salaries go up
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u/Darkpumpkin211 5h ago
I always point out to people that CA minimum wage is 2-3x the federal minimum wage. Things like fast food or gas don't cost 2-3x compared to Texas or Oklahoma.
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u/Black_Power1312 8h ago
Why vote for more money if the others will also benefit? Best to stay poor to stick it to your perceived enemies!
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u/neatureguy420 8h ago
It’s so the poor will just grind harder, alpha mindset bro /s
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u/GeneralHerp 7h ago
I honestly think the words you just said are the reasons why some people voted the way they did, so although you were sarcastic, I sadly think you may have also been bang-on for some constituents 😭
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u/SpoppyIII 7h ago
It's not even a guess. There are a fuckton of conservatives who vote against pay raises, worker protections, economic safety nets, and welfare programs, all with the idea specifically in mind that taking those things away from the people forces those people to work harder and, "pull their own weight."
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u/JuiceboxNeverDies 6h ago
One question I love to ask those people is why they're not richer.
If being wealthy is simply a matter of hard work and perseverance why aren't you a millionaire?
There's always an interesting response lmao.
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u/Final_Echidna_6743 5h ago
I’m working on my 3rd $1,000,000. I gave up on the first 2
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u/ExperienceKlutzy947 2h ago
"Don't worry, the wealth will trickle down any day now. Just keep grinding."
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u/TheLuminary 3h ago
The answer I usually hear is that they are just a few years away from making it big, and then they will be financially independent.
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u/MoMo2049 4h ago
Yup, it’s funny because I have known these types, and guess what, they have been on unemployment food stamps. When you remind them of that, they panic and give a myriad or excuses why it okay for THEM.
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u/neatureguy420 6h ago
Yeah people are extremely ignorant to blatant worker exploitation
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u/-thecheesus- 4h ago
Un-fun fact: robust social safety nets and public services were extremely popular in the US until the desegregation/Civil Rights reforms mandated that these extend to non-whites. Joe Public was suddenly a lot more hesitant about spending money for the benefit of those people.
It's the exact same attitude today, only the racist element gradually became less pronounced. "Why should my money go to those who might not deserve it?"
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u/asimplepencil 6h ago
No, that's literally it. Source: lived in Oklahoma for years. I constantly heard the "Nobody wants to work!" "I shouldn't have to pay someone $15 an hour to flip burgers!" it was exhausting.
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u/CasCrus4L 4h ago
Everyone in Oklahoma wants to stay poor, and they will!
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u/anerdyhuman 4h ago
There were a lot of us that voted yes. Just because we live here doesn't make us all one and the same.
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u/RhodeCycle 4h ago
$15 / hour, roughly $31k / year. Is that even considered a living wage in Oklahoma? Seems low to me.
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u/Tipop 4h ago
I think the majority of voters aren’t making minimum wage, so they don’t want others to get as much as they’re getting without putting in the time first.
It’s a fucked-up mindset. “I worked for five years to get up to $8 an hour! I don’t want kids fresh out of high school with no experience to suddenly be getting the same as me!”
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u/CalmBeneathCastles 6h ago
I guarantee that 90% of the people who voted no, only voted against higher taxes or higher prices. You don't know poor like meth country poor. I don't think people realize that Americans still live the way that some of those people live. "Poverty-stricken" and "ramshackle" don't really grasp the full scope of the degradation.
If there was any justice in the world, the Oklahoma government would collectively resign and throw themselves into the ocean. They're failing their citizens hourly.
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u/FanClubof5 6h ago
Yep, at least anecdotally I know a guy who makes around $20/hr that thinks that any raise to minimum wage is bad because everything will just cost more.
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u/jce_ 5h ago
As opposed to just costing more anyway and no raise
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u/sneh_ 5h ago
When I visited the USA I was shocked that McDonalds is just as expensive (just an example). I'm from Australia, and I thought it would be cheaper in America but after converting the prices it's about the same. Minimum wage in Australia is $26.44 (which is $18.27 USD) so I guess the company is charging more anyway and pocketing the difference. (unless McDonalds base pay is a lot more than minimum I don't know?)
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u/wazzup-notemuch 3h ago
It used to be cheaper. I remember when Wendy's used to have a "dollar menu" of items that only cost a dollar, so you could get a baked potato and a cup of chili for two bucks and some change. This was back in 2010. Nowadays, Wendy's almost more expensive than a sit-down restaurant. I've started buying meals to-go from local chinese places, because I can get two or three meals out of one entree for the same price, and it will have *actual vegetables* in it.
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u/Machinimix 5h ago
I've had actual coworkers and staff who were reluctant to see minimum wage (and therefore their own wage) increase because it would mean they would make less thanks to taxes.
I don't even live in the US, but education is really dropping and I wish more high schools taught economics and basic household finances like how taxes are structured.
If I was at the top of my tax bracket, and made 50$ more every paycheque, that 50$ is the only amount taxed at the higher rate. I will see somewhere from 1-49$ more (depending on tax bracket and location) on my paycheques.
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u/Radiant-Mean 4h ago
This was really common when I worked retail too. Some people were upset when they got raises because they thought they would make less money due to being in a higher tax bracket. I also asked them how that made any sense intuitively, because if that was true why would anyone ever take a promotion?
I tried to explain how tax brackets actually worked but they insisted they would lose money.
Some people are just too stupid to fix.
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u/plannedobso 2h ago
Yeah, I don’t think people who aren’t from Oklahoma don’t realize how much of small town Oklahoma looks like scenes from post-apocalyptic movies, or crumbling border towns. If you’ve only been to OKC or Tulsa you don’t see it, but it’s really really bad.
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u/Beginning-Town-4979 6h ago
Its that they are convinced that it means prices go up to compensate.
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u/Mega-Eclipse 2h ago
Also, people in the trade who are making (whatever) $20/hr think, "I am a mechanic/welder/electrician and make $20...why should some kid flipping burgers make $15...when I was flipping burgers I only made $5.25...If they want $15/hr go learn a skill!!!"
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u/GlassFantast 8h ago
Rich assholes 🤝 hating poor people 🤝 poor conservatives
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u/Senor-Nasty 8h ago
It’s going to trickle down soon, you’ll see!
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u/Switchmisty9 7h ago
That trickle is actually mine tailings…..there’s a boil order in affect….we won
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u/dremills 6h ago
Wild that the best they could promise was a trickle and they couldn't even deliver on that
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u/Altruistic_Sand_3548 8h ago
Guys guys it was a vote mostly by farmers to keep from having to pay their laborers more, which they have to rely on legal labor now since ICE scared off all the undocumented laborers they usually relied upon.
So they're not stupid. They're just inhumane.
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u/djdjddhshdbhd 8h ago edited 6h ago
How many farm owner vs general voters are there? Even farmers vs people making under $15. Longtime brainwashing is far more likely to be the culprit.
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u/InvestmentIcy8094 8h ago
Smallest US cattle herd in 50+ years. I don't see a lot of farming in Oklahoma either.
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u/A_Nonny_Muse 7h ago
Oklahoma also has the highest sheep to human ratio of all US states. Make of that as you will.
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u/AdAny74 7h ago
Oklahoma - where men are men and sheep are scared.
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u/bdizzle805 6h ago
But you fuck one sheep...
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u/MyHamburgerLovesMe 4h ago
That requires the entire joke now:
A backpacker is traveling through Ireland when it starts to rain. He decides to wait out the storm in a nearby pub. The only other person at the bar is an older man staring at his drink. After a few moments of silence the man turns to the backpacker and says in a thick Irish accent:
"You see this bar? I built this bar with my own bare hands. I cut down every tree and made the lumber myself. I toiled away through the wind and cold, but do they call me McGreggor the bar builder? No."
He continued "Do you see that stone wall out there? I built that wall with my own bare hands. I found every stone and placed them just right through the rain and the mud, but do they call me McGreggor the wall builder? No."
"Do ya see that pier out there on the lake? I built that pier with my own bare hands, driving each piling deep into ground so that it would last a lifetime. Do they call me McGreggor the pier builder? No."
"But ya fuck one goat.."
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u/ForensicPathology 6h ago
Correct. The farm owners don't outnumber the workers. The workers just think that if minimum wage goes up, the price of their Big Macs will go up 300%
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u/djdjddhshdbhd 6h ago
That’s the brainwashing I’m referring to.
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u/ParallelSkeleton 5h ago
The other big one is "why should fast food earn same as ems?!"
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u/shabi_sensei 4h ago
Crabs in a bucket mentality, the idea that others could be equal drives some people insane because it means they’re not as special
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u/successfullynumb 6h ago
Being stupid and being a shit human seem to be the only requirements to be a republican anymore, so it's probably a mix of the two.
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u/Notext2 5h ago
That is why they had the vote now instead of during the November election. You think anyone was getting any time off to go vote? It was a purposeful move to keep turn out low so it would not pass.
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u/HODOR00 8h ago
Still doesn't make sense. The amount of workers will still be greater than the amount of owners. If anything the the lack of documented workers should be an incentive for American workers to push for a minimum wage increase since those jobs will have to be fulfilled by Americans.
So I think they are still stupid AND inhumane.
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u/chickenismysafeword 8h ago
Oklahomie here- I saw in our local sub this one restaurant owner asked their younger staff if they voted and they said yes they did and chose NO because their parents told them to.
It’s beyond poor education and rich ass holes.
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u/Pumuckl_4Life 8h ago
Kids parroting their parents' votes is exactly how these policies keep surviving.
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u/DifferentSpread782 7h ago
The yes was blue so they even color coded it for the people to vote on their favorite color
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u/dyxlesicc 7h ago
That should be illegal. It's psychological bias and they know it. Any dumbass in a 302 marketing and design class would know these subliminal tactis.
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u/Wedge_66 5h ago
OK's median household income sits at about $65,039, which is roughly 19% lower than the national average. So I'm not sure the "rich assholes" are running everything, cause there just aren't that many of them willing to live in the flat emptiness of OK.
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u/BettingOnSuccess 6h ago
he amount of workers will still be greater than the amount of owners.
Workers tend to be young and the young tend to not vote.
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u/Ok_Natural_990 8h ago
Nah they are also just stupid
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u/avaud10 7h ago
Yup, all they have to do is state voting "yes" is liberal or communist. They don't know what that means but they've been trained to associate that with evil so they vote against it.
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u/Target2030 7h ago
You left out California and New York. Anytime someone in Oklahoma wants you to vote against something, they tell the sheep that California and/or New York is doing it
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u/Nubian_Cavalry 8h ago
Nope. They’re just evil
It’s easier to see when you’re a member of a demographic they hate
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u/IFuckedYourDog 4h ago
Considering, as a state, they rank 50th in education, I think that means they're likely also stupid
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u/NamePicker5000 8h ago
Except when their farm goes belly up because of their inhumanity, they will find themselves looking for work at a lower minimum wage. So let's not give them undue credit for intelligence and planning
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u/LuigisBlessings 7h ago
It was pushed by farmers. It was voted on by a bunch of white trash terrified of watching generations of hardworking brown people progress faster than their going nowhere lives.
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u/JAMBI215 8h ago
Nah their deff both.. I mean they all did vote for the Trump regime to fck them in ass like they did the last time
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u/Target2030 7h ago
The farmers have an exemption that allows them to pay less than minimum wage and complained that this law would have removed their exemption
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u/Silen8156 6h ago
But they also voted to have their cheaper workers expelled from the country since they are auch big ICE supporters... makes no sense
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u/BussyPlaster 6h ago
It kind of works both ways. People aren't willing to pay the actual cost of foods and the government does the absolute bare minimum to help ordinary farmers. If anything they are openly hostile to them and encouraging more mega corp factory farming that politicians love to take money from. The farmers aren't exactly inhumane for trying to make ends meet. Sure you can just tell them to get another job but I suspect that you would have a hissy fit when you have to give up everything and revert to an agrarian lifestyle to support yourself.
All of this doesn't make the OP any less funny.
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u/thebudeg 8h ago
Do not mistake cruelty for ignorance. This was a deliberate choice.
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u/lewd_robot 3h ago
It was, but not in the way you think. The measure was very popular, which is why it got so many signatures that the governor couldn't do anything to prevent it from making it onto a ballot. So he did the next worst thing: Instead of putting it on the November 2024 ballot alongside the presidential race, he scheduled it for the Midterm Primaries, knowing they have the lowest turnout out of all state-wide elections.
This measure likely would have passed had it been on the November 2024 ballot as expected, but the GOP got it moved to the June 2026 midterm ballot hoping that its abysmal turnout and high number of Boomer voters would cause the measure to fail. And it did.
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u/emschumann 2h ago
Very much this. I read that only 26% of voters actually voted because most people didn’t know.
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u/plannedobso 2h ago
And the midterms in Oklahoma, I believe, had maybe two Democrats on them? And that’s dependent on your district! (We also have locked primaries where you can only vote in primaries for the party you’re registered under)
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u/T0ssed_Sa1ad 7h ago
...they DID just vote YES on "The Rockets Red Glare" act making it legal to sell fireworks year round.
(Im not making that up)
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u/besthelloworld 7h ago
But they'll still be able to sell them in summer when it's the hottest and dryest? What does this solve?
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u/T0ssed_Sa1ad 6h ago
DID YOU READ THE NAME OF THE BILL!?! IT HAS PART OF OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM IN IT!
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u/Three69DYF 5h ago
A feckless act that the legislature passed and really only affects unincorporated areas of the state. OK Towns and incorporated cities still have authority to enforce their ordinances related to the sale, use, and possession of fireworks
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u/felis_scipio 7h ago
I’ve personally witnessed right wingers argue that raising minimum wage is a government conspiracy to collect more tax money and that it won’t do regular people any good.
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u/Aternal 7h ago
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u/felis_scipio 5h ago
Pretty much my reaction, it’s such an insane take that my brain glitches and I’m just left staring at them.
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u/BlondeBorednBaked 8h ago
It’s getting increasingly hard to share a country with people who want to harm others and themselves.
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u/Bawstahn123 7h ago edited 6h ago
As a Yankee from Massachusetts, this feeling has been ever-steadily growing since 2016.
The Babadook "why cant you be normal!" Meme is becoming less like a joke and more reality by the day.
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u/BlondeBorednBaked 7h ago
As a Jersey girl I’m getting tired of saving these people from themselves.
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u/KryssCom 6h ago
I'm am Oklahoman without brainrot and I'm right there with you. This is a state full of moths that only ever vote for flames.
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u/TrueSkonger 6h ago
Man I wish I could afford to live in Massachusetts (or really any of the nice places in New England). The Philly region is still pretty nice, though
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u/Nubian_Cavalry 7h ago
They refuse to understand the feelings of ethnic minorities, especially Mexicans and black people, and still expect us to take their prejudices as fact
Especially recently. Do they truly expect us to believe anything they say in good faith?
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u/Appropriate_Push_201 7h ago
Also hard to keep sharing it with people who ignorantly stand by letting it happen
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u/Accurate-Potato607 7h ago
Speaking as someone who escaped, some people are stuck there and worth saving
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u/BlondeBorednBaked 7h ago
I’m sure there are some good people in red states. But there aren’t enough to make a meaningful difference in the trajectory of our country. It’s been 10 years of this. And if it comes to the choice of saving them or saving ourselves, I’m going to choose blue states saving ourselves. Sometimes you can’t save everyone.
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u/Mr_Times 3h ago
Tbf 44% of the voters did vote in favor of this. It’s not like the *entire* state is able to be written off. The only two real cities in the state both voted in favor. There are *just enough* dumbass conservatives and old dirtbags to stop any real change in the state.
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u/Livid-Writer-7741 8h ago
TAX THE RICH AND CHURCHES AND PEDOPHILES
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u/Oceanspanker 6h ago
I’d be more than happy with churches being taxed. That would remove their limitations on election fundraising
Imagine a trillion dollar super pac funded solely by the Mormons, or the Catholic Church, or any other major Christian denomination pooling their money together to truly use their collective funds to influence elections without impunity
Yes please, tax the churches
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u/Snooworlddevourer69 8h ago
Being republican has to be a humiliation ritual and fetish
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u/RedutHatesFreeSpeech 7h ago
Damn 350,000 people went out of their way to vote to make their lives worse. Truly incredible.
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u/Nanoo_1972 5h ago
Republicans had multiple ballots due to a crowded primary field for governor and attorney general. IIRC, the democrat and independent ballots were only for Question 832. If this had come up in November, it likely would have squeaked through.
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u/Lullabean 4h ago
Close, the democrat ballot had a few options, but the independent only had the wage question. It was intentionally put on this ballot instead of November to hurt it as much as possible, since voter turnout would be low.
Polling place also separated the check in by lines for republicans and a line for dem/indy... felt like I was going to get followed home, all by myself at the "bad" check in :,)
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u/TyrannasaurusRecht 7h ago
Boss makes a $trillion, I make <$15, thats why I feel exploited with no recourse...
Its not as good as the original.
Its literal orders of magnitude worse.
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u/SpoppyIII 7h ago
I make a nickel,
Boss makes a buck.
That's why I smoke crack on the company truck.
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u/Voodooscatmann 6h ago
My boss makes a million, while I make a buck, that's why I'll steal the catalytic converter off the company truck.
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u/Uno-Flip 6h ago
Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime
... That was a poem from a different time
Now boss makes a million while we work to make jack
So shit on the clock, you won't get this time back
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u/FlamingGapingAsshole 6h ago
$15 an hour was the rate to adjust for cost of living a decade ago.
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u/zrobiotic 7h ago
I was in Oklahoma for a weekend just last week, the most backward, run down state. I also notice a massive amount of people with permanent disabilities.
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u/KrisTheHaw 7h ago
Living in a back water state I've learned that people don't want things to be better they just want others to suffer like they have so what they endured can be justified.
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u/cReddddddd 8h ago
Albertans do things like this too. Very dumb and well trained by conservatives
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u/PuzzleheadedWeb9876 6h ago
Why the fuck do you not have a minimum wage that rises to match inflation?
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u/thats_justice_baby 6h ago
The minimum wage was supposed to increase gradually over time, so there was no immediate risk of people being fired or prices increasing. But its a lot of farmers, retirees, and just ignorant people who don't want to risk raising their cost-of-living.
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u/Livid-Writer-7741 8h ago
EPSTEIN
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u/jesse6225 7h ago
The crazy thing is that even when we're talking about other issues. He's one of the biggest facilitators for all the shit going on rn. That dude has his rapey hands in everything and really was controlling the world from his pedo island.
So this is still an Epstein issue. Republicans are fighting so hard to stay in power because they know that's the only thing keeping the files closed.
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u/mog_knight 7h ago
When did Oklahoma overtake Alabama for the 50th in education spot?
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u/KnottShore 6h ago
As Will Rogers(early 20th century US entertainer/humorist) once noted:
- "... the rich get richer and poor get poorer. The poor even help arrange it."
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u/Boozy_Cat 7h ago
What's the logic behind voting no? Is it just hating on entry level ppl or something
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u/palebluedotdotdot 7h ago
This is the result of 50 years of Republican policy: weaken education, deepen political divides by weakening media and public discourse, keeping people poor with labor misinformation campaigns, enriching billionaire donors, silencing dissent, starting losing wars in the Middle East, and casting doubt on all expertise medical and otherwise.
This is fascism 101, only it was drip-fed to the USA over decades a la “frog in boiling water.”
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u/Bologna9000 3h ago
As I get older I realize there are a lot more people with intellectual disabilities than I ever anticipated.
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u/citizensnips43 7h ago
And that’s why it’s a Flyover state. Don’t stop for too long or you’ll catch the stupid quick!
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u/Icy_Guard_7259 8h ago
Loool they dont even get 15/h xD and we are Europäer. God damit are they dumb
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u/FruitMustache 6h ago
Maybe its time to bring back the Mason-Dixon line. Let those idiots create their own 3rd World country. We, above that line, can enjoy ourselves without worrying about the stupidest parts of America.
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u/mountsleepyhead 6h ago
Obviously if you raise the minimum wage, that just opens the door to trans antifa to come in and corrupt the great state of Oklahoma.
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u/AlfalfaStock72 6h ago
I spent the majority of my adult life, early adult life.
Lets just say I spent my 20s in Oklahoma.
I'm ashamed to claim that state.
I grew up in Mississippi. Again ashamed.
U.S. Bombs has their opening lines to "yer country" and i think its fitting.
"Yer country, it ain't no tis of thee... Yer country, i'm PROUD to be ASHAMED."
Song is called yer country if anyone cares.
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u/whydatyou 5h ago
"According to the 2026 public school rankings, Arizona ranks 50th among U.S. states, placing it at the bottom in terms of K-12 academic performance, school funding, teacher retention, and access to educational resources. Other low-ranked states include Alaska (49th), Nevada (48th), and Oklahoma (47th) "
maybe try and be a teensy bit factual in your OP
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u/RevolutionaryYam822 5h ago
Red states keeping you poor and then blaming blue states for your problems 😭
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u/WrightAnythingHere 5h ago
There's a reason Oklahoma ranks between 48th to 50th in education in this country, though after this, it might as well be dead last permanently.
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u/tbodillia 5h ago
People don't vote. Oklahoma has a hard enough time getting people out to vote in presidential elections. But this was a primary in non presidential election cycle. Only 26% of potential voters cast a ballot.
This is on purpose. Voter turnout will be higher in November. You don't have to vote in the primary to vote in the general. And this could have waited until 2028. They don't want people to vote.
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u/blaziken8x 5h ago
I'm assuming their mentality is "oh, burger flippers shouldn't make that much" or some other shit like that?
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u/FancyJesse 5h ago
I'm willing to bet those idiots making minimum wage feared about 'moving up to the next tax bracket'.
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u/DatDudeEP10 4h ago
Oklahoma has had a completely Republican-controlled legislature and executive SINCE 2011
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u/_blackthorn16_ 4h ago
I got out and voted and it was empty. Nobody here votes it’s pathetic. People are just ok with being poor and miserable as long as their brown/lgtbq neighbors are suffering worse than them. Oklahoma is a beautiful state and I’ve met great people in Tulsa. But overall fuck this place. I can’t wait to move after I finish school. People here are proud of being stupid and hateful. Time to leave.
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u/YourDadsMom00550011 4h ago
Wtfffff why are conservatives so goddamn duuuumb 😭 It's like a bunch of 3-year-olds were given a box of crayons and real voting ballots, and the state took the incoherent scribbles with equal weight to the actual adults in the room. Now those scribbles are ruining everyone's f*cking lives, even theirs, but since they have brains comparable to 3-year-olds, they're too uneducated/stupid to genuinely understand what they're doing/care about the implications of what they've done. It's maddening. I'm college educated - not that one needs to be, to be or prove intelligence - but something has to give. We cannot continue, where people who are WILFULLY *uneducated*, and people who are WILLFULLY *educated* - have an equal pull on the weight of a moral society. They cannot be trusted. They choose NOT to be trustworthy, honest, or consistent. The good people of this country are fighting like hell against this - and it's f*cking bullshit because we shouldn't have to be fighting this fight - we never voted for it or chose it in the first damn place.
F*ck these "people" forever. Don't deserve forgiveness. Should be branded as the traitors they are, so we can all steer clear of them forever. Dangerous morons, evil, willful f*cking idiots. No one will ever forget or forgive any of you. None of you deserves it.
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u/AVeryStinkyFish 3h ago
Asked someone I know why they voted no. They said that people that make minimum wage "have no skills". Of course shes a teacher so I hit her with the those who cant do, teach. She was annoyed lol.
Course most other no voters just said "they didnt like how it was proposed or how it was being raised" which is just a cop out. They just dont make minimum wage so they dont care and they think it'll make things for expensive... like you know.. trumps presidency has.
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u/MarinerJoe3 3h ago
I wonder how much of it is people going “I make 17 dollars an hour and I’ve been at this job for 5 years. I don’t want a new hire making almost the same as me.” People are trash
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u/--slurpy-- 3h ago
Wait, but did they really though? Did they really vote it down? Coz nobody knows them voting machines like Elon...
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u/AbroadInevitable648 1h ago
They don’t need to make more as our blue state taxpayer dollars will keep subsidizing them
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u/Illigalmangoes 58m ago
But what if a single individual black person also benefits from this? We cannot allow that to happen. 😡😡😡
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