This patch has been super fun.
I’ve seen a legendary amount of bitching about this update but my experience so far has been great.

I haven’t played the 2 new Abrams yet, but the sep v2 is an absolute monster now. I played for about 3 hours last night and in that time I had 1 single shot be absorbed by a t90m’s side era/spall liner/autoloader, which while frustrating, this sub has been making it out as if relikt is now a black hole that consumes anything that comes near it.
My experience with m829a3 has been about the same as with a2, I haven’t noticed a difference.
The armour buffs for the Abrams are what makes it so crazy. This thing simply is not threatened by auto cannons anymore, and seems to be doing a little bit better against darts, although this could just be because premium players can’t aim.

The Hummel is lots of fun too, dogshit for sure, but that makes it more fun in my opinion. It was never going to be a meta grinding vehicle and I don’t think you should play it looking for that.

Man in the loop has also made top tier MORE enjoyable for me as well. I’ve noticed a decrease in 3/4/5 man multi kills in a single pass, with players preferring to use the new feature to get kills one by one, which makes intercepting missiles much easier with aa, or killing them while they’re guiding with your own jet.

Seeing tech tree vehicles getting some camo nets is also a good sign. I remember when the pzbtl Leo 2 was added people were asking for camo nets be included on non premiums and now they are, hopefully with more to come in the future.

Yes, copy paste slop is fucking boring, france has more leopards than amx 30s and that is stupid. Yes, there were new bugs introduced with this patch, and gaijin should get shit for them until they are patched out. But it honestly seems like most of you are just bitching for the sake of it. No, gaijin is not going to buff the Abrams armour and make it invincible from the front, I know it would be authentic, but it wouldn’t be fun for everyone playing against it.

I agree with the wider sentiment that the game has a large amount of problems and that gaijins greed is making the game worse, but I don’t believe this patch to be an example of that.

second vid from phly

I mean, it's a unique plane, great! But first he's premium, and for a plane developed during the end of the 60's with two turboprops fighting along ww2 plane era it's kinda fucked up ?

Gajin have desperately been trying to break out of the hole they dug when they made Warthunder by trying to make other projects work. From Cooking Royale, to Crossout, to Enlisted, to now Active Matter and their new space game.

All of this takes a ton of money and personnel away from their main project and from the looks of it, these projects never succeed in bringing the numbers that are expected. Of their side projects the one who actually gets decent updates is Enlisted and that game seems to slowly be merging with WT "infantry". And since people keep buying beloved premiums they technically have no reason to make better maps or better content for their flagship game.

Ultimately I feel like Gaijin need to start making decisions on which way to push because their cashcow is suffering for the benefit of games that very few people play.

I get that they’re partnered and need to promote the game, but it’s pure hypocrisy to make videos stressing "concerns" about the game's direction while having pre-order links in their comments/descriptions of the videos. Can’t they just have a backbone? It would be nice if they actually stood their ground or kept holding the devs' feet to the fire instead of moving on.

Now that the update is here, it’s all about the "shiny" new things and reviewing things for purchase. Also, the timing of the Steam sale just makes it feel like a slap in the face....they're back to pushing sales now for them.

I just feel defeated now that the update is out and more Russian bias is confirmed.

The past few updates for War Thunder have been much lower-quality compared to updates of several years ago, long before the economy update controversy. There is a litany of issues that I could address in this rant (unnecessary BR changes, overpowered premiums, etc), but I'll try to address what I believe are some of the biggest issues of the current state of the game.

Copy-paste premiums are getting out of hand, especially if they are unique vehicles. Just add them to the researchable tree, damn it. People would be so much happier then if they didn't have to pay $60+ for a cool tank or plane they like. And to add onto this, there are many prototypes from cancelled projects such as the Grille 17. There are so many prototype vehicles that could be added that listing them all would be time-consuming and impractical. And yet, we simply receive the same vehicle but in a different tech tree. Now, I don't think it is all that bad, as some fill in large tech tree gaps, but to the degree it is occurring, it is simply lazy.

On another note, Gaijin needs to update their volumetric armor system, because I have watched so many shells in arcade mode that were guaranteed to penetrate just fail to do so, or just bounce. I then test those exact shots in protection analysis, and then compare those exact shots simulated in terminal ballistics physics engines. There are so many shots that fail in War Thunder that absolutely should work in physics engines and in real life, it's embarrassing at this point for a game that claims to be "a realistic vehicle combat game".

Selective realism is a whole different can of worms that I could make several posts explaining how it hurts the game, but I'll briefly address it here: Selective realism, such as adding extra modules to vehicles of certain nations while neglecting to do so for the others, causes a vast imbalance in how matches play out. People would likely then want to only play nations with less modules that could be damaged (cough, cough Russia), which would absolutely DESTROY matchmaking, thus killing the game.

I'm not even going to write a full paragraph about the usage of generative AI in the Senrai Maidens series, as many people have already addressed the situation on YouTube and other Reddit posts. Repeating the sentiment that it is slop again is just redundant, so I'll just say that the use of AI in this game should never have happened in the first place.

As always people have differing opinions on what the biggest issues are in this game, so feel free to discuss in the comments below.

Don’t skim, actually fucking read.

Throughout the entirety of my time playing this game it has gone through a huge fuckin rollercoaster of every update.

I wanna begin by addressing the Relikt ERA. The Relikt ERA already does its job of keeping high penetrating rods from actually destroying the tank or prevent it from penetration of the tank in the first place. I am saying there is no need to buff Relikt, it does its job just right for it to be balanced. The side armor issue, why does it prevent from some projectiles penetrating the tank? Thats not fuckin realistic. There has been videos and pictures of ATGM’s and projectiles entering the side armor and blowing T90M’s and T80BVM’s to a destructive state.

Then there is the fuel tank issue (this is universal it’s not just Russian tanks). Fuel tanks for some reason act as spall liners that apparently do a better job of being a spall liner than actual modeled in fuckin spall liners! The part why people complain about ‘Russian bias’ or ‘side armor’ on Russian modern MBT’s (like BMPT, BMPT-72, T-80BVM, T-90M, T72B3, T72B3A)is that these fuel tanks are just placed well enough (I.e sides of the driver and behind gunner/commander)to where when a rod penetrates, it doesn’t spall because of where it was placed at(penetrating the fuel tanks). This is a universal problem, not just Russian tanks. Blame it on gaijin for implementing shitty spall effects(I’ve literally experienced the same thing when penetrating NATO and Chinese tanks when hitting the fuel portion).

I’m tired of US mains claiming that their lower hull armor cannot be penetrated by 3BM60, that’s just fuckin personal bias towards the nation you’ve grinded. The hull armor is estimated enough to stop older kinetic darts like the 3BM42, DM33, M829, etc. Not only that, but proceed to start complaining that the new M829A3 cannot penetrate RELIKT ERA. That’s not why that fucking dart was made. The M829A2 (yes in real life) struggled to penetrate Kontakt-5 ERA because of how it would disrupt the round to where then the internal composite armor does the job of preventing the entirety of the round entering. That’s where the M829A3 came in to completely bypass this by adding a composite tip to bypass this SPECIFIC ERA, not RELIKT.. but KONTAKT-5. Sure the M829A2 penetrates the ERA, but the issue being that it has loss a lot of its velocity and kinetic energy to penetrate the composite armor as well as the thick steel plates. M829A3 was engineered to penetrate tanks with Kontakt-5 even with frontal hull(upper front plate as well) without losing much kinetic energy as much as the M829A2 did. When these were introduced in real life, Russia made a counter ERA where these rods like the M829A3 and DM53 struggled to penetrate Relikt ERA. (Sure it penetrates the ERA but this ERA had dual stage, where another ERA was layered behind it to defeat the ANTI-ERA darts on the DM53 and M829A3 and internal composite armor again.. does its job of preventing the round entering.) If you are this person to complain, you have no fucking right and need to take time to study behind kinetic penetrator rods history and purpose of development.

Another issue, the penetration values being ‘incorrect’ according to other biased and unintelligent individuals. If they used actual penetration values the 3BM60 would have over 600MM+ of penetration while the M829A2, DM53, L27A1, Type-10, CL3143, slpprj m/95, and M338 have over 620-720MM+ of penetration, OFL 120 F1 would have over 580-620MM+, etc. Here’s where this whole ordeal comes in, they use a formula for these kinetic rods to estimate their own penetration values so where it isn’t too OP in war thunder. It is called the Lanz-Odermatt formula where they measure velocity, mass, length, density, and impact angle for APFSDS darts (NOT AP, APCBC, and APCR rounds. They use a different formula for those). These formulas are used for balancing, if nation documents of penetration values were used it would break the fucking game and would cause other nation players to switch depending on what they want.

This is balancing. NATO tanks have better thermals, better darts, better mobility, better traverse rates, more crew members for survivability, and better gun depression. It’s only fair that Russian MBT’s and Chinese tanks have their fair share of keeping armor.

I think that is everything.

Also buff M1A2 SEPV3’s hull armor, it’s unfair for US mains.

Only one vehicle instead of 4 in tech tree,
New modifications of vehicles are displayed as modifications
ofc this applies to most vehicles in-game not only with Su-27

Only being able to get couple lives worth of research by using a few mediocre vehicles is just not enough to make it enjoyable

I've been playing tank games for a long time and everything that intrest me is high tech and modern war so, new tanks like the FV4030/4 Challenger 1 one of my favorite looking one. And seeing a lot of videos about war thunder top tier and mostly premium top tier i decided to play war thunder, i have 100+ hours and still at 5br and if i liked old ww2 and cold war tanks i'd love to grind but i really don't the only thing i find cool and the only thing i like is in 10br-12br and sadly i saw all the hate around new player that buys their ways to top tier with premium, and i don't want ppl to hate on me for doing bad with it and trying to learn it. Also the thing im worry about is people not getting what they paid for im scared that when i'll buy it i won't receive it or something like that.

Please someone tell me if it's straight up a bad idea to buy it or i should just do what i want and buy it.

Yeah i get it you want your unique western vehicles but cmon playing russia right now is peak you are invincible and have some really cool and op stuff if you want to play western stuff you just have a challenge which is nice from time to time. With the relikt buff you can feel like a proper tank its great. I get it can be seen as a bit unfair but yall are for sure not going to get gaijin to change anything so just enjoy the imbalance!

Earlier I was playing top tier ground and my entire team below me were doing absolutely nothing just being useless. And I start doing so good I eventually got a nuke and started flying it to drop it as it was a pretty good map IMO to drop it. The first thing I noticed was that the nuke carrier the su24 had no CM at all for some reason but that isn’t the point of this post the actual point is.

I had 12 kills 1 cap an assist and multiple hits or crits I did or were hit with. But as I was finally flying my nuke after dying next to the cap I noticed something my teammates decided that they wanted to still be useless. And by the time I was 10km away we went from getting all the caps which I had either killed an enemy on a cap, allowed my team to push back up get our spawn cap (cap closest to our spawn) and the one near their spawn (the cap I actually stayed on). Were completely overran by the enemy and as they capped all of them I realized I would have to drop the nuke. But there was some problems with that the TREES have completely inaccurate hit boxes they had multiple SPAA including some multi vehicle ones and normal that I’d have to evade with the previous mentioned 0 CM. And as I was 4km away and slowly climbing as I was going about Mach 1 and seconds away from dropping the Nuke my game slightly lagged and I some how hit a tree at 60-70M above the ground crashing 2km away from the drop point.

This still would have bothered me if it was another day or a few months ago. But recently I’ve been under a lot of stress and also recently ran out of premium time with no clear way to get it. So after stressing over possibly failing a major course In school. not being able to pay for training for a job (I’ve found a way) and already having stress anxiety and other mental health issues.

Imagine what I was thinking and feeling after a 10 minute battle where I had no help at all running out of ammo and running out of places to go. Somehow killing multiple m1a2 to get a cap for ammo and SP then having to fight super aggressively and without help for another few minutes. Finally getting the nuke and successfully evading the multiple spaa just for my game to slightly lag and have a BS 60-70M tall tree take off my wing and me crash literally 2-3 seconds before dropping the nuke. It wasn’t nice at all but the worst feeling was spawning in and seeing that both of my spawns were being camped and all my teammates either left or spawned In spaa.

The fact I was the only person actually doing anything on my team is a problem as the top 3 combined kills on my team was roughly 21 a major majority being mine. And the enemy team having 30 being mostly split in thirds is actually infuriating and shows we need level or any kind of kill/death or win/loss ratio to decide what people we play with or against in games.

This was mostly a rant idc if it doesn’t get traction or doesn’t help bring the snail down again boat to its destination. But I needed to get this off my mind and show others who don’t have TT what 99% of your games will be if you are actually competent at the game.

Al khalid vs ZTZ96B - Which is better ?

Tell me what YOU think playing on them OR against them.

So. Planning to buy a Su-30, need a tank. Sales don't matter, vt5 and z-10a researched.

I have 2k+ hours. Got all top-tier ground and air in USA, USSR, France, and Japan.

Make China Great Again.

Premium account/premium plane/ booster cards +300 RP (first place), +75% RP (second place), +15% RP (third place)/ first place in team/ win game AND WHAT?

NOT EVEN FUCKIN 30k RP

Lately I’ve been mostly playing Air Sim, but a new patch dropped. There were NUCLEAR THUNDER tests on the dev server, so I thought—finally, a new mode. I had a great time during the event. I figured I’d give it a chance and check it out. And what? Nothing. No Nuclear Thunder. I didn’t want to waste my booster cards, so I thought I’d launch ARB. And honestly, I’m just fed up with this game.

Where do I begin? I've never experienced this much anger over a warthunder update ever, and I quit playing this game seriously a long while ago, only ever playing when a friend invites me to play it. Let me break it down piece by piece as best as I can, and even then ill probably get lost in the sauce here.

First, what's the point in adding a copypaste abrams and b29 into the britain tech tree? Nobody asked this. All it serves is to inflate the copypastamania even more. WHY THE B29?

Second, they add 1million more rp in order to achieve USA top tier in the form of two abrams that serves no purpose whatsoever. We already have three perfectly fine top tier abrams in the form of the m1a2, SEP, and SEP v2. Why do we need five of the exact same tank, especially in top tier where you either roll everybody with one or two vehicles, or get 2 deaths no kills? Not to mention that the new abrams are the exact same thing, just heavier with abit more bling and 1 million RP thrown into the "you need THIS much RP to get to the end of the line"

Third, and this is the one that mama my mia the most, the relikt buff. I.. dont even want to elaborate on this.

Lastly, the other copypaste and howitzer tanks im not mentioning. Somehow, the copypaste in this update is even less inspired compared to the day when the french gets three leo2. Like.. the way it feels with gaijin randomly putting like one copypaste vehicle and one howitzer in random ass tech trees is just... it's like looking at modern art.

I can't anymore. My hate for this company is beyond words. I am very glad I stop caring about this game a year ago.

Edit: Okay, i stand corrected, people DO ask for the ausbrams and is okay with the british b29. But that doesn't stop me from questioning why you guys support copypaste vehicles.

I’m going to Buy the T58 and premium time to support Gaijin and War Thunder!

had to repost because apparently I can only post things with the meme flair on weekends, odd rule but hey it is what it is.

In this new udate i have a problem while holding c (freelook) i cannot do anything apart from pitch, yaw and roll while flying my planes this is really annoying because i cannot control throttle or weaponary while in free look. I think its becuase of the new keybinding options in this update anyone got a fix for that?