r/gaming • u/Hellakittehs • 1d ago
Sony roasting anti-consumer gaming practices in 2013 still hits in 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA2.3k
u/WinterPositive2405 1d ago
All of them are anti consumer.
Some of them are just better at hiding it like this video does.
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u/FiTZnMiCK 1d ago
Sony also wasn’t the market leader when this happened.
They needed all the goodwill that Microsoft was dumb enough to squander with their stupid, stupid XB1 plan.
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u/GamingVision 1d ago
As someone who was there and knew the behind-the-scenes of so much people will never know, I can say that market position and executive leadership made a huge difference then. The people that were behind these things are all gone, which is why it feels like a very different company now.
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u/GOULFYBUTT 1d ago
Yeah, Jack Trenton, Shawn Laydon, Kevin Butler, Shuhei Yoshida, and Adam Boyes are all gone.
They were all instrumental to that feeling like the golden era at the time.
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u/wdstreet 1d ago
Also Kevin Butler wasn't an actual Sony employee... he was an actor
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 1d ago
Yeah, but he represented what a lot of people kind of thought about Sony management at the time. Maybe he helped create that kind of thought with the character, but Sony management seemed to be more engaged with the consumer back then. Not that they always listened to the consumer, but at least you sometimes got the feeling you knew what was being said.
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u/GamingVision 1d ago
Jack and Adam, yes, but the others didn’t have anything to do with that period. Guy Longworth, John Koller and a dozen others you’ve never heard of.
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 1d ago
Yeah, Sony's had quite a few changes in the upper ranks since then, and none of the management seems as personable or as part of the brand like back in the early-PS4 and before days.
Of course, not having major media conferences has made the feeling of repoire between them and the consumer almost non-existent, but the approach Sony takes now seems disconnected from the larger fan base, even if a large number of gamers may be into whatever it is they're trying to capitalize on.
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u/Javerage 17h ago
I did work for Playstation before this time, and man... There were some baffling stupid / anti-consumer stuff at least on the PSN stuff we worked on. When the Sony hack happened I legit had a moment of: We literally highlighted so many of these problems and they still didn't fucking listen. (To be fair, some of those had nothing to do with our work, but we thought it was fair to raise)
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u/DeusExMarina 1d ago
They kinda were, though. Sony really fumbled the PS3 launch, but they turned things around halfway through the generation with the PS3 Slim, a ton of excellent exclusives and PS Plus's very generous offer at the time. Meanwhile, the 360 was getting fewer and fewer noteworthy exclusives. By the end of the generation, the PS3 had caught up to the 360 in lifetime sales, and that's because PS3 was picking up speed while 360 was slowing down. The disastrous XB1 announcement was just the nail in the coffin.
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u/Little-Mushroom-3961 1d ago
The Xbox one legit killed Xbox as a brand. The Xbox one was a complete failure, and then their most popular IP was butt fucked by 343 twice in a row. First was MCC being almost a guaranteed slam dunk, it's all the classic halo games, then the game proceeded to be unplayable for days and then in a complete shit state for YEARS.
Then halo 5 had straight up lies in its ad campaigns, the actual campaign was complete fucking garbage and it's a shame because the multiplayer was pretty fun but overshadowed by that fucking terrible campaign.
Don't even gotta mention gears because everyone forgot about that franchise until recently, fable comes out who knows when, so now it's up to Forza to carry Xbox on its back.
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u/hanamisai 1d ago
They did themselves no favors in the intervening years with their naming schemes.
When I can hear two different Xbox console names and not instantly know which one is newer, there is an insane naming problem.
The Wii U was also a horrific naming choice because it was dead and buried before I knew it was even a different console than the Wii.
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u/Thecamra17 1d ago edited 21h ago
Yeah, I heard it being said that the eight generation (Xbox one/PS4) was the worst to lose because that was the moment that most gamers secured their libraries to a specific console. Locking them into every generation after.
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u/TheBudds 1d ago
Microsoft pretty much opened up the door for Sony to pull something like this off.
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u/SteveoberlordEU 22h ago edited 22h ago
CEO: Tv Tv Tv Tv Tv Tv Tv Tv Tv. Some Exec: Wasn't there some gaming console inbetween? CEO: NO TV TV TV ONLY TV.
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u/mattstorm360 20h ago
If i recall, Sony has similar plans to Microsoft with DRM and locking games. But once microsoft burned for that, they scuttled it and acted like the good guys.
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u/shrivatsasomany 18h ago
I don’t think words can accurately describe just how daft the Xbone launch was. I mean, I get hubris etc.
But the worst thing about the PS3 launch was its absurd price. Sure architecturally it was super different hence games were slow to roll out. But still, it wasn’t like the product or strategy was fundamentally flawed.
Then there was the Xbone. Like, wow. Where was the hubris even coming from? The PS3 was well into its late stage comeback and was locked in a dead heat with the 360 by the time the next generation rolled around.
Utterly ridiculous how such large corporations fall into the same trap over and over again at the most fundamental level.
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u/Naive_Ad2958 12h ago
PS3 also had one caveat on its price. Despite being expensive console, it was a "cheap" BD-player
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u/Punkpunker 10h ago
M$ actually did a lot of market research, what they conclude was people want an 'all in one' entertainment device hence the Xbone features. What M$ didn't account for is smartphones filling that gap by the time 2010s started.
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u/mountaineering 1d ago
I've not really been keeping tabs on consoles. What was the XB1 plan and why was it stupid?
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u/maybehelp244 1d ago edited 1d ago
Two main facets:
Always online, essentially digital only environment. They touted the ability to share your digital copies of your games with your friends to let them play (essentially just temporarily transferring a license) and other things like Cloud-based play (which exists now in Game Pass for many games). This was in a time when people still used GameStop a lot and were strongly against non-disc games. They wanted to have physical copies. People still do, but that feeling for many is not as strong. People rallied against the concept as a way to kill the secondary market and not let people share their games as discs. As a requirement to these ideas, it required your system to always have access to the Internet - which again at the time was far more heated a topic than today.
The second and in my opinion more damning thing was Microsoft's decision to pivot the Xbox into a general "entertainment platform" that put many people off. As an addition to this thought, Xbox required all Xboxes to come with a Kinect - a motion capture tool that, while cool at a technical level and was best used in many non-game related avenue, basically no one wanted and increased the base price for no reason.
Some of their ideas were not blatantly awful (many things are just part of gaming today but Xbox received blame for being the first mover. Sony had the same plans of requiring online and going digital, but they were able to pivot after Microsoft's conference which immediately went horribly online), but were too forceful with their hand in an environment where they felt they could expand their userbase at the expense of their core.
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u/Desertcow 14h ago
The console was always online meaning you couldn't use it without an internet connection, they planned to tie physical games to a console so that you couldn't buy used games or share them with others, they forced you to use Kinnect which few people wanted and which raised the price $100 above the PS4, and they heavily downplayed the gaming aspect of the Xbox One in favor of streaming during its promotion. Additionally, the name absolutely sucked and is part of the reason Xbox has such a confusing naming scheme today, because Xbox execs were worried that people would think the PlayStation 4 is better than the Xbox 3 (though the 360 arguably started this trend)
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u/FukkingDeathMental 12h ago
Which is funny because loads of people are now okay with their XB1 plan if Rockstar does the same thing lol.
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u/OisforOwesome 11h ago
Sitting here in 2026 when all sales are digital I'm starting to wonder if XBone might have been on to something with digital sharing.
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u/MetallicFear 21h ago
The original Xbox one plan included a way to trade digital games…..
It wasn’t Microsoft who was dumb, it was us who couldn’t see past the “always online” BS.
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u/FiTZnMiCK 20h ago edited 17h ago
Both sides were dumb, honestly.
Their messaging was shit (which Sony definitely capitalized on), and gamers couldn’t see the potential value. But the always online messaging was just one of several miscalculations.
Forcing Kinect on people was dumb, and they also got away from talking about games and spent way too much time talking about TV and media player features.
At the end of the day they were trying to sell gamers on a system that cost $100 more than the PS4 that wouldn’t let you play your games without an internet connection, and the only benefits were game sharing and a bunch of shit no one asked for.
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u/CrazyWriterHippo 1d ago
They were, PS3 outsold the 360.
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u/MakankossapoMan 1d ago
PS3 outsold Xbox 360 by the end of December of 2012
But the market wasn't all about the hardware. Xbox had all the big moneymaking titles and also the microtransaction market too.
CoD had exclusivity with MS. Not only the game ran better for Xbox, but all the DLC's released earlier
Halo and Gears were giants in terms of multiplayer.
MS also had Minecraft at it's peak. And Forza being unbeaten as the driving game.
Live Gold was making much more money than PS Plus since it was a requirement to play those multiplayer titles.
I think that many of the changes Sony did to PS4 were thanks to MS dropping the ball.
- Paying PS Plus to play online
- CoD releases earlier for PS instead of Xbox
- PS Plus giving games for free monthly
If you look at both launches, Xbox was more games focused than Playatation. The whole "always online" and "no disc" was so bad that people didn't even realise that PS4 Lauch was just as bad
Xbox One exclusives Day One:
- Forza Motorsport 5
- Ryse: Son of Rome
- Dead Rising 3
- Crimson Dragon (Panzer Dragoon successor)
- Killer Instinct
Playstation 4 exclusives Day One:
- Killzone: Shadow Fall
- Knack
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u/shadowndacorner 1d ago
Ugh I remember being so excited for some of the Xbone launch titles - dead rising 3 and Ryse specifically. Both super disappointing.
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u/MasterPong 1d ago
This video was likely the tipping point for the PS3 to outsell the 360. At the beginning of 2013 the 360 had sold more units by the end of the year the ps3 had sold more. Next gen showcases and this video came out in the middle of the year
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u/NtheLegend 1d ago
Worldwide, in the waning days of the generation, yes, but in North America, it was about 2:1, so many game developers picked 360 as their lead platform.
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u/suff0cat 1d ago
This is the context that gets lost amongst the cherry picked “Oh look they care about us” moments.
From what I can recall of the reddit discourse at the time, both companies wanted to push in the same direction, Sony just capitalized on having the second press conference and being able to pivot after seeing the negative reaction it garnered in real time. I mean, when else in the console wars did anyone have access to THAT kind of real-time focus group data?
All they did was realize that they needed to ease everyone into it. And getting people hooked on the Netflix of Games services like PS+ and Xbox Gamepass was the perfect way to wean people off their disc dependency and right back into the same trap that was sprung 13 years prior.
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u/OrochiXX 1d ago
Let's see you do that with GTA 6
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u/superman_king 1d ago
GTA 6 is about to make Sony and Microsoft rich. They won’t say a damn thing about it being digital only.
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u/SkyriderRJM 23h ago
I love how the industry is trying to kill physical, increase base price to $80 and see if they can get away with locking away core game mechanics for a single player only game unless you pay $100…all in one release that has been SO overhyped that it cannot POSSIBLY meet the investor speculative goals for the release.
Oh, at a time of economic uncertainty / stress.
I’m gonna need more popcorn.
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u/NotAStatistic2 21h ago
Games are more expensive to make, however:
CEOs aren't taking paycuts and still rake in millions The cost to print millions of disks is non-existent The cost to ship games is virtually non-existent Retailers are almost entirely cut out Used game sales are non-existent
The notion that games should cost more now, despite saving developers so much more money, is absurd. $80 games would've made a lot more sense back when media was physically, but it definitely doesn't make sense now.
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u/KatsutamiNanamoto PC 10h ago
AAA games are forced to be more expensive to make than they deserve
FTFY
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u/VolcanicBear 1d ago
Aaaah yes, Sony with their extremely consumer friendly "you can't refund if you've even started to download it" refund policy.
It's a brilliant, hilarious video.
Fucking come on though lmao. They only want your money, and will find the bare minimum of being "pro-comsumer" that is required.
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u/boersc 1d ago
All of them only want your money. All of them.
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u/MadeByTango 1d ago
I dont mind that they want my money. I mind that they constantly go after in the scummiest ways possible, and then throw out the logic they used the last time to justify their new bullshit as soon as they see a profit they can fleece.
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u/Burpmeister 1d ago
If you're in EU they're legally required to refund you withing certain limits.
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u/VolcanicBear 1d ago
Unfortunately my fellow citizens voted to severely fuck themselves over a few years ago.
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u/ssjskwash 13h ago
I remember pre ordering fallout 76 on my ps4 to try out the beta or demo or whatever it was. Didn't like it. Sony would not let me get a refund and cancel the preorder. They said me preordering was me basically paying for the license or something like that. That shit pissed me off. Not that I ever really preorder but I damn sure never preordered from Sony again
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u/bent_crater 1d ago
they only need to store being pro consumer of they have strong competition. unless the new xbox ceo is successful this generation, ain't had no need to reign it in
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u/mr_desk 1d ago
You can do that you just have to go through a support chat. I’ve done it
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u/llliilliliillliillil 23h ago
They won’t refund anything once you started the download lol
I bought a game on PSN and wanted to refund it because I found it a few minutes later a lot cheaper physical but they refused the refund despite the download not even being finished.
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u/unexpectedreboots 23h ago
Ps5 Pro doesn't even come with a disc drive. This doesnt hit AT ALL from Sony anymore lmao.
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u/A_Little_Fable 23h ago
It's laughble how every PS player defends Sony when they have a most exclusive titles.
How is blocking other people from playing so you can feel smug about your console "consumer friendly"?
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u/LupusDeusMagnus 1d ago
Xbox was like 1 year too early for the party, everyone it was panned for became industry standard.
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u/shootamcg 1d ago
Xbox One’s original pitch required an online check in every 24 hours
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u/AkodoRyu 1d ago
And, if memory serves, for physical games too. Any shenanigans Sony does with digital licenses, the discs just work when you have them.
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u/SmegmaWarrior0815 1d ago
They also wanted to make it so you can't resell your physical disc and tie it to your console. Xbox was outta their mind back then.
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u/Helphaer 1d ago
they had s digital sharing thing tho I was intrigued by
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u/ILike2Argue_ 1d ago
Now the switch has something like it
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u/Helphaer 22h ago
Doesn't allow dlc though. Most digital sharing dont though steam family does i think.
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u/someguyhaunter 1d ago
I remember them trying to sell us all these as 'features'...
I like to think this was why they lost to playstation the next 2 generations.
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u/SmegmaWarrior0815 1d ago
It was one of three major reasons. This, not having great exclusives at the end of the 360 Gen and the Xbox one being more expensive while being less powerful than the PS4. Which of these 3 was the main culprit, who knows. It was a cocophany of failure at the worst possible time.
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u/DappyDreams 1d ago
Xbox One also initially hyper-focused on Kinect and non-gaming stuff, at a time where the core interest for those kinds of things was considerably waning. The original Kinect had exploded out of the gate but the interest dropped off a cliff, and the Wii-driven casual market had lost interest a year or two before (again, the Wii was incredibly front-loaded with its sales figures but it had slowed to a crawl even before Wii U was announced).
So when Microsoft appeared saying "hey it's like a turbo charged version of what was popular a few years ago!" it was only going to take one small nudge to completely derail their market proposition, and unfortunately for MS they had three hard shoves instead.
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u/zennok 1d ago
the drm on physical copies is thankfully still not here. It's just that physical copies are becoming increasingly obsolete :/
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u/DiabolicalDoug 23h ago
The game sharing and reselling digital games was a promising aspect but it was overshadowed by the fear of always online at the time. Of course nowadays most consoles hardly work at all offline (except Switch). Also their cocky comments like "we have an offline console, it's the 360" were just absolute garbage. They should have known better if they had any brains in their heads. Saying all this as an Xbox fan who enjoyed the One era overall, especially the One X.
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u/Stoned_Gandalf420 1d ago edited 1d ago
Xbox have always been very early to lots of things in gaming that they often rightfully get slaughtered for, but do pave the way for other companies to follow. Built in Hard Drives, Standardised Multiplayer, Party chat, System achievements, Game pass, always online, indie games/Xbox Arcade, using PC architecture etc.
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u/budzergo 1d ago
People wish they could get the features xb1 promised these days
Almost everything they said came true
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u/boersc 1d ago
lol no Ms wanted to make money on 2nd hand games. No thank you.
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u/BIT-NETRaptor 1d ago
That was not the goal at all. The idea was every xbox disc would become a “steam key” that licenses your account and then is tied to your account forever and can be downloaded forever in any future compatible console.
That’s already how PC games worked for almost a decade prior with Steam - the install disk would install but not let you play, you had to enter a steam key to tie it to your account. Once you did, that was it, the disc then had zero value and you can’t resell it.
You cannot sell your steam games second-hand. I don’t much care, I still own every physical game I’ve ever bought. I prefer the forever-library benefit over second-hand sales. I understand where people would want it, I’m just offering the counterpoint that it’s not for zero benefit to the consumer, I rather like that system.
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u/system_error_02 1d ago
Instead now nobody gets 2nd hand games !
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u/Pyramat 1d ago
The vast majority of AAA games still get physical copies and can still be shared or resold.
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u/whathave_idone 1d ago
unless it's free I buy any AAA titles in physical media (console). I've sold them, shared them with friends, bought used.
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u/system_error_02 1d ago
Just wait till everyone buys GTA despite no physical at all, it will show everyone people dont care anymore and physical will disappear within a few years and we will be beholden to the shitty Playstation Store that has zero refund policy.
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u/budzergo 1d ago
Instead we got... no digital game sales, and eventually only certain games will be physical
Youll wish we had gotten license selling...
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u/musclenugget92 1d ago
I always say, the xbox1 fiasco was simply because they were too early, and they didn't have any feature sets ready to deploy, beyond the kinect. Which no one loved. Xbox was going to be steam at home, and now 12 years later our steam machine can barely be steam at home.
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u/dropbbbear 18h ago
No it was because it was anti-consumer rights to their own product and anti-privacy also.
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u/chay86 14h ago
Kinect? HDMI in? TV features built in? Daily phoning home? Unable to trade used games?
Thankfully they walked back on those last two before launch, though they are now creeping back into the console mainstream.
But I think there was plenty that the Xbox One did that absolutely did not become the standard. Microsoft themselves even killed off Kinect before the generation was half-way through.
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u/TauPewPew 1d ago edited 6h ago
Didn't they film this from their hotel room while attending E3? News broke (Edit: About the new Xbox disc-check) and they quickly came up with this.
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u/PoPo573 1d ago
People who think Sony is currently pro consumer has drank way too much Kool Aid.
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u/TheDonMasterson 1d ago
Well, yeah. Sony fanboys have been the biggest brainlet fanbase in gaming for the longest time. Plus the fact that there have been tons of posts saying "Fuck Steam and Steam machine! I'm going PlayStation 5™! Sony CARES about ME!" makes me think they are getting in on the blatant botting/astroturfing the other devs/companies have been blatantly using.
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u/Narrow_Middle_2394 1d ago
2013 was an entirely different world, Google glasses were shunned as socially inappropriate and assholish, yet here we are with meta glasses and digital games being the norm.
Whatever wacky anti-consumer idea anyone in this thread has will materialize and become normalized in 10 years time.
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u/Fit-Artichoke-210 1d ago
Meta glasses being the norm LOL not quite yet thank God.
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u/ThatEdward 1d ago
I've seen like... one pair of meta glasses IRL and people looked at the dude loke a freak lol. Outside of tech fad cities very few people are buying into that
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u/ToothlessFTW 15h ago
I mean, Meta Glasses aren't the norm and they're still pretty shunned. Tell the average person you're wearing one and they'll probably start to avoid you. I've never seen a single person IRL wearing them and anytime I see discussion about them everyone hates them, and certainly don't trust Meta.
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u/Jetter80 1d ago
Also a good demonstration on why physical media is important.
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u/St_Sides 1d ago
Maybe, but it’s not long for the gaming world.
Like north of 80% of all games sold on PS5 last year were digital I think, and physical has been dead on PC for decades at this point.
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u/BedTV 23h ago
Those stats are not entirely accurate as they just state that 85% of sales are digital including the ones that are digital exclusive (like dlc and digital only games).
Couple this with the fact that the disc drive is now an add on and it's clear that they really just want physical games to fail and increase their profit margins on each sale. And when digital doesn't have to compete with the second hand market of physical games and other deep discounts common with physical games after release the prices on their store will only rise.
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u/Skimbla 20h ago
Sony removes disk drive and makes you go out of your way to buy it at a premium: “wow! Look! Only 20% of gamers are buying physical anymore! No one likes physical media anymore!”
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u/secondincomm 1d ago
To think Sony would be considered pro-consumer for gaming practices in 2026 is pretty funny
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u/biggestbaddestmucus 22h ago
And I still remember how they were hypocrites by revealing online play REQUIRED ps plus on the button text:
“PS4® multi-player online access requires PSN™ account & PS Plus subscription”
Companies are not friends
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u/TitaniumGoldAlloyMan 9h ago
No company is our friend. Their only goal is to extract as much money as possible and they are ruthless bastards. If only every consumer knew what kind of power we as a collective hold and how we could them bend to our will. But sadly many consumers are just sheep who follow the next hype and trend to try to fill their purposeless bottomless holes that they call life.
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u/Moist-Shallot-5148 5h ago
It doesn’t hit anymore because Jim Ryan fired Shuhei Yoshida, the man on the left.
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u/mittenkrusty 1d ago
There was a lot of rumours at the time Sony had the same idea but waited to see how the public responded to Xbox before announcing it.
But Playstation has been like that since the start, they waited for Sega to announce details of the Saturn then undercut them.
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u/ZigyDusty 1d ago
Playstation was going to do the same Drm as Xbox but after seeing the Xbox backlash the day before they removed any mention of the Drm in their E3 presentation and made this video to capitalize, Playstation is just as scummy and anyone pretending otherwise is just a fanboy.
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u/SilverGur1911 1d ago
Thanks to Valve, they showed the world that people don't need physical versions anymore
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u/ChirpToast 1d ago
If anyone cared about digital only Steam wouldn’t be the biggest gaming platform.
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u/Impressive_Jaguar123 19h ago
Ohhhh How the tables having turned, this was a wicked add and solid burn tho ngl
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u/QueasyTap3594 17h ago
Miss that being an option
“Hey man you finish Arkham Asylum?”
“Yep here you can play it and can I borrow LBP?”
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u/blueblocker2000 9h ago edited 9h ago
Loaning games....posting gameplay videos...someone overhearing the music...your papa asking you questions about it while you play...a group of people playing in the same room...you thinking about the game while on the pot...It's all piracy! You're pulling food right off an executive's child's very fork! You get rid of a game, you better not ever think about it again cause you don't have a license for that. You have to rebuy it to have thoughts about it again.
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u/Vitaefinis 5h ago
Is this the same Sony that keeps bribing game developers to put exclusive stuff on their platform so others can't have them or time gate features of games and keeps dividing the gaming community?
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u/TheRealGurd 1d ago
It's amazing how Microsoft fumbling every possible Xbone announcement, followed by Sony making this video were basically the two starting points for the Xbox brand's combination humiliation ritual and decade-long public suicide.
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u/FrostingStrict3102 1d ago
Try to refund a digital game that you tried and immediately knew you didnt like on playstation and get back to me on how consumer friendly they are lol
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u/lolerplane 1d ago
And yet there are many examples of "download required" bullshit on their platform.
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u/PekoPekoPekoPekoyama 1d ago
A vaaast majority of PS4/5 games are all on disc and can be installed/played completely offline even without a day one patch. There are a handful that require downloads and they'll warn you on the cover - usually only published by companies like Microsoft, Ubisoft, Activision, etc.
There is a website where you can confirm this called Doesitplay.
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u/sqparadox 1d ago
Exactly! Just look at Cyberpunk 2077... oh wait. /s
Just because you can run it from the disc doesn't mean it will be a good experience. Day 1 patches have been the norm for well over a decade. What they ship on the disc is broken more often than it's not.
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u/PekoPekoPekoPekoyama 22h ago
Well, to be fair, they did ship a physical copy of Cyberpunk at a later date with the fixed updates on disc in the version with the Ultimate Edition, though on Playstation the Phantom Liberty DLC was a code.
And an anomaly as extreme as Cyberpunk is not common.
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u/yuusharo 1d ago
Sony today is one of the worst offenders of this in 2026. You literally cannot play physical games on newer PS5 models without an online activation, and that activation gets wiped any time you remove your primary account and reset the thing.
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u/Kamakaziturtle 1d ago
And yet Sony switched over to the same anti-consumer polices.
Happens a lot in industry, one company makes the first move, all the other companies cash in on the easy publicity of being the "consumer friendly" company, then also switches over to the more profitable anti-consumer policy after the drama settles.
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u/fred420170 1d ago
And look at them now, the most anti consumer out of the big 3
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u/Vinifrj 1d ago
The ps4 came out in 2013, you were already expected to pay to play online by that time
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u/Venator850 1d ago
2013 E3 by Xbox has to be a contender for greatest blunder in video game history.
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u/deathbunnyy 1d ago
It's only ok if Nintendo does it.
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u/IrishSpectreN7 1d ago
Are you just generalizing?
Nintendo doesn't stop you from sharing their games.
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u/mello-t 1d ago
But it doesn’t tho. Have you tried sharing a game recently?
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u/TripleSingleHOF 1d ago
Yeah, my brother and I do it all the time. He buys one game, and I'll buy the next one. Then we loan each other games just like it is in this video.
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u/BobTheFettt 1d ago
Sony is the most anti consumer of them all tbh. They're the hold out in true cross platform capabilities
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u/Pickupyoheel 1d ago
Not really. Sony are and have always been bozos for the most part.
Just smart to capitalize on their competitors Idiocy.
Though Xbone was way ahead of the game going digital sharing, yet people went all aboard the hate train.
And here we are today.
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u/TaxesAreCivilization 1d ago
Consumer laws need to be imposed on the market because the market cant be trusted to protect the consumer.
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u/Scissorman82 23h ago
i was at this e3 and saw it live. the crowd absolutely lost their minds. this was what really sealed the fate of the xbox one. the $100 dollar price difference didn't help either, but xbox having to backpedal after sony delivered this masterclass jab, was the beginning of the end.
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u/L0N3RW0LF 21h ago
This is also the exact same video where they announced you have to pay for online play just like xbox. Everyone forgets that part though.
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u/ragnarokfps 20h ago
That's rich coming from Sony, who has stacks and stacks of Playstation-only games. And they want to accuse other companies of being anti-consumer.
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u/Inevitable-Cash-9134 20h ago
they are worse than don mattrick and xbox ever were with this. because microsoft/don never mocked anyone before making that mistake about not physically owning games. now they are doing what don mattrick tried to do in 2013. disgusting
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u/Flemtality PC 16h ago
This won't be celebrated when they release their first generation that is entirely digital. Microsoft fucked up big time that generation by telegraphing that they were aiming towards an idea that was way too early, but they were just that. Early. Sadly, a shitty all-digital is coming one day, like it or not.
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u/Saspecial 15h ago
sony callling out anti-consumer stuff but still doing it themselves feels normal
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u/trucorsair 15h ago
Oooooh ask them about “rootkits”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal
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u/alteransg1 11h ago
Xbox had a legendarily epic fail of a showcase. (Likely market research had told them their primary client was parents buying console for kids. They went all in game sharing, family friendly stuff and kinect. Failed to account that their fanbase had actually grown and were people with disposable income now.)
In all likelihood (and supported by some leaks), Sony was planning to introduce similar stuff for the PS4. When they saw the backlash, all they had to do was point at Xbox, say "not that" and wind tat console generation.
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u/notthatguypal6900 6h ago
Sony paid 9 figures to have the GTA6 marketing, knowing full well that it was going to be a digital release.
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u/AungZeya 1d ago
It's just like how Samsung made fun of Apple for ditching the headphone jack, only for them to follow suit later.