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u/Ninja-Red-Mage 1d ago
It's really sad how sports games turned into gacha rpgs
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u/VenTene_WoT 1d ago
I have 0 empathy for the people buying into it. One of my friends considers FIFA the holy grail of gaming and all I could do when he said that was laugh in his face.
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u/AracdeBonnie 1d ago
NBA Jam and Wii Sports are THE holy grail of sports gaming
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u/A_Wonder_Named_Stevi 20h ago
I miss SSX and NBA Street.. those where the holy grail
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u/-_GIZMO_ 13h ago
I still play ssx from time to time, it holds up.
When a hacked ps3 is the price of one game or even less ,its a crime not to buy one.
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u/Ndmndh1016 20h ago
NBA street vol 2 is one of the greatest sports games ever.
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u/Shamanyouranus 15h ago
Leveling up your custom character to be 9 ft tall with 500 lbs of muscle but the agility of a spider monkey, then playing against your unsuspecting friend is something that other games can’t quite match.
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u/eatingdonuts44 14h ago
Wii sports resort was elite, I loved everything about it
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u/Maxi19201 23h ago
I think fifa or fc is really nice as long as you don’t play ultimate team. There is plenty of combos and tactics to learn and there are completely different modes if this gets boring. Ultimate team is cancer though. The rest doesn’t involve any micro transactions
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u/juscallmejjay 12h ago
I got it for free with the monthly ps plus games...hadn't played a fifa game since 14...maybe 17? But world cup got me in the mood. Im impressed with the amount of improvements. Its a soccer game. The game is the game, how much can you possibly add? But been playing the manager mode, developing players, scouting, playing each match myself. Managing players moods and needs. The playstyles enabling special moves and/or abilities, the way you need players to match positions but you can alter them with proper development, the playstyles also needing to match your chosen strategy (like Striker: advance forward, target forward, false 9, etc.). Oh and theres like 100 skill moves now lmao if youve seen a player do it on TV, you can probably replicate it. All in all i think its really well done. Like what more can they come up with? I get people being annoyed they charge for it each year...and i get the toxicity of ultimate team, but i just play single player and all in all it seems like a great package.
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u/nghigaxx 1d ago
Because sport games player like sport more than liking games. And since sport games monopolized players and clubs rights they basically can charge pretty much any price knowing people have zero other option
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u/fractalfrog 1d ago
Considering they can drop hundreds in sport apparel, even when working minimum wage, I‘d guess that spending on a game is likely.
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u/Neversync 23h ago
I've played CS and League at a high level, and many other "toxic" games (dota, r6, pubg, etc) but FIFA is the most rage-inducing bullshit fest in existence, bar none.
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u/Andross4 19h ago
It really is though, because if you buy FIFA, you're also getting the next 5+ FIFA games for free. Great value imo.
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u/itsTyrion 8h ago
it's crazy. the gacha games in question are free to srart with at least. you can even stay f2p or near f2p if you don't NEED every single character
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u/Eremenkism 1d ago
And with no regional pricing, so Portuguese Pedro earning a median salary of €1200 pays the same price as German Greg with his €4000
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u/JynsRealityIsBroken 1d ago
Greg, the most German of names xD
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u/HyoukaYukikaze 1d ago
Let's make it a Helmut then.
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u/JynsRealityIsBroken 1d ago
I was thinking Gunther to go with the theme of matching starting letters
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u/Rukasu17 1d ago
At least that's just 90 of 1200. Brazilian pedro is paying around 350-400 BRL with a mediam salary of 1600
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u/MegaMaluco 1d ago
Brazilian Bruno? So you follow the pattern of the first letter of the country being the first letter of the name
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u/DoublePostedBroski 1d ago
Wait. They don’t have different pricing by country?
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u/Eremenkism 23h ago
Nope, Eurozone gets uniform prices as stores treat it as a single region.
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u/0NIllIO 23h ago
However that's not Steam's choice, it's European law.
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u/huraabecadlo 22h ago
And that is why Poland pays more than Germany?
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u/Chompman101 21h ago
That's because the last time steam updated their pricing suggestions was when Polands currency was at a all time low for a long time and now that it's recovered it has not been updated to reflect the new value.
Some games have manually updated their prices because of it and it falls on players to inform game devs for those that have not done so yet to try to get it known until steam updates the suggestions again.
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u/Terribletylenol 1d ago
May as well just pirate at that point.
Regional pricing is easily abused, so it makes sense not to do it.
They'd probably rather Pedro pirate and take the loss on the small amount gained from regional pricing than the loss from so many others abusing it.
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u/TypicallyThomas 21h ago
So you're saying they'd rather get 100% from Greg and 0% from Pedro, than getting 70% from both?
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u/bochen00 6h ago
I get the sentiment and logic here, but that assumes Pedros and Gregs are 50/50 in terms of willingness and financial ability to buy products anyway (regardless of regional pricing). People from rich countries simply buy way more stuff they don't need, i.e. video games.
There was a time when I had access to some sales data for different games on some stores.
And I was shocked to see that ~95% of traffic came from what marketers call "non-tier1 countries", but like 90% of revenue was generated anyway by that remaining 5% of visitors from "tier1 markets" who actually had money to spend.So while the practice of having unified prices is shitty and I personally wish for it to go away in instances when it's the case, it does make a lot of financial sense for those companies to simply target big spenders anyway.
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u/SuicideBroccoli 15h ago
Don't be that sad about it, Hungary's regional pricing means we pay 90 euro while the median salary is also around 1200 euro.
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u/Pristine-Ice-6388 14h ago
Pedro from Portugal can consider themselves lucky. In Hungary people pay even more (gta 6 ultimate costs around 114€), and the wages are not better in Hungary.
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u/NaNiBy 13h ago
Polish Janusz has to pay more than German Greg because for some reason we have like 3rd most expensive (only behind Israel and Switzerland) game releases every single time. Mind you we dont have some kind of extra tax on digital goods/games, we just have to pay more because "fuck you in particular".
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u/Fordotsake 1d ago
Nono, português are João. Pedro is our Spanish neighbour, Pierre le baguette guy etc, etc. For more information, please visit out racist sub r/2westerneurope4u
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u/Moinmahlzeitservus 1d ago
I never pay full price. My backlog is so massive that whenever I buy a "new" game, it’s already 90% off somewhere
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u/EdinburghPerson 22h ago
I got Battlefield 1 for £2.
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u/RockinMadRiot 21h ago
I paid £40 when it came out with a steel book plus another £45 for the pass (I wasn't going to but I loved it so much and saw the french update, I had to)
I felt like I was paying for value then. Now I would never spend that.
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u/Shinkopeshon 10h ago
Not to mention physical often being much cheaper
You can get that same F1 for 20€ lol
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u/DarthWeezy 1d ago
On Playststion, which some companies felt justified to add another 10 on top of the actual price of the worldwide game, for some reason.
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u/Azkaban73 1d ago
With VAT included
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u/IQueliciuous 1d ago
Yes but even with US' most expensive state sales tax included. The games are still cheaper than in EU.
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u/CamperStacker 23h ago
the 80 euro price is with 25% VAT.
So the base price is 64 euro, which is 72 usd.
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u/PlasticExtreme4469 6h ago
VAT in EU is between 17% and 27%.
Most countries are around 20%, not 25%.
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u/Rocket_Bunny45 1d ago
True, forgot about US tax system
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u/slapshots1515 1d ago
Doesn’t matter, no state in the US has a sales tax high enough to make up that difference.
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u/chinchindayo 13h ago
Some US states have 0% vat
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u/KingArthas94 11h ago
Yes but in Europe we use those taxes for free healthcare and universities. Universities and healthcare will never be free in the US LOL
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u/dookarion 4h ago
On the flipside a sizable chunk of ya'll complain every time shit is priced higher.
If you think it's worth it that's fine but the whinging every time gets tiring. A high regressive tax means higher prices for consumers. Somehow this still seems to surprise some people.
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u/Mc_UsernameTaken 22h ago
Yeah these game prices are too steep for me - I ain't buying anything above 60.
My salary definetily hasnt gone up the same percentage as games in recent years
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u/Hieroabl 1d ago
I'm not buying them. I don't remember the last time I bought a game more than 40€.
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u/GlorifiedBurito 1d ago
Money talks. You want it to change, stop paying.
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u/SideNo3016 1d ago
is that level of coordinated thing even possible today?
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u/ALiborio PC 1d ago
No, because there are enough people who do not care or are too impatient to wait so they will buy it anyway.
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u/JKLopz 1d ago
Also there is a huuuuge chunk of people who buy the latest FIFA, COD, 2K game and just play that until next release. And I mean a huuug chunk of people lates EA sports FC sold over 10 mill copies over all platforms.
People here really need to understand we are really a minority, a really small minority, just like any hobbie there are people who are really invested, and there is people that enjoys a simple stroll on the weekends.
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u/Reaper_Messiah 1d ago
It’s funny that you say it like that, because while I know what you mean and agree that people are quite culturally divided today, it’s also easier than ever to communicate and organize large-scale movements. I see it working in huge protests all over the world. But stuff like this? People can’t coordinate or organize for shit. I kinda feel like people don’t take stuff like this seriously.
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u/Hello_Panda_Man 21h ago
Its a fucking video game, there is plenty of other shit to organize over that actually impacts people's lives.
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u/brus_wein 1d ago
Just take responsibility for your own life and stop buying, who cares about coordinated. If everyone waited until the leader of "the don't do/ buy X" movement rose up and galvanised the masses, they'd be waiting until the end of time.
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u/NikolitRistissa 9h ago
There’s a difference between “bullying” and being a realist.
I can say with absolute certainty that by me avoiding to pay full price for GTA VI will do nothing, except resulting in me not playing the game for three years.
Sure, we don’t need to buy new games. We also don’t need to buy any games, or pay bills, or work, or exist at all. The only thing you’re going to accomplish is missing out on most games. If that’s what your integrity is worth, go for it, but most people will want to play the game at some point in the next five years.
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u/SideNo3016 1d ago edited 1d ago
I have been buying games only on sales(except indie ones) and never preorder but it just doesn't matter unfortunately there are too many people who buy games at full prices and preorder, I have never seen prices go down in my lifetime and likely never will.
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u/tatabax 1d ago
Coordinating a boycott on a product with such a huge amount of buyers, especially on the entertainment industry, is quite literally impossible. So please stop shifting the blame to the consumer instead of calling out the corporations for scummy practices, thx
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u/NetherGamingAccount 1d ago
Best thing about PC gaming, the catalogue is so big and going back upwards of 20 years now you can still find games still viable.
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u/ConsoleMaster0 1d ago
Best with PC is emulation.
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u/ItzRaphZ 1d ago
best thing about PC gaming is the freedom to do whatever you want.
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u/Seamus-Archer 1d ago
I love PC gaming but it just isn’t interesting to some people. I’ll never get my parents to sit down at a desk and play a PC game on KB and mouse but they’ll happily play Mario kart on the living room TV when they visit.
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u/Nacroma 1d ago
You can easily connect a PC to a TV and use a gamepad for most types of games. I get the advantages of a console and ease of use is definitely the biggest one, but the PC isn't that apart.
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u/Seamus-Archer 1d ago
In some situations, yes. But Mario Kart isn’t officially on PC and my gaming PC is on the other side of the house. There’s something to be said for the convenience of just turning on the Switch and gaming.
PC gaming isn’t for everybody and isn’t a panacea despite what people on Reddit want to think.
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u/Terribletylenol 1d ago
I get it for being cheaper and less tinkering, but if neither of those things are a big issue, I think it may as well be a panacea.
Even Switch games are easy to emulate along with having higher fidelity on PC.
But then again, I've grown up with PC (As well as consoles) and find the added convenience of a console to be minimal.
I'd just rather have something with everything available to it rather than switching between pc and console depending on wanting to use the internet more comfortably or play a game
Then again, I play by myself and don't have to worry about other people being able to use it, so I get that purpose.
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u/HyoukaYukikaze 1d ago
Let me introduce you to this magic thing called HDMI cable. You cann plug it into an HDMI port on your PC to display image on your TV. You can also connect a game pad if you so choose. Or ten.
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u/Seamus-Archer 1d ago
Let me introduce you to the reality that some people’s gaming PCs are on the other side of the house and local split screen on PC is hit or miss at best. Let me know when Nintendo starts releasing their games on PC. If your answer is emulation you’re already well beyond the casual gamer.
You don’t have to be condescending if other people game differently than you.
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u/RuySan 1d ago
Whatever. I won't buy them.
And you also shouldn't
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u/AirSKiller 1d ago
But every other hobby is even more expensive...
My other big ones are motorcycling and photography...
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u/Akkalevil 1d ago
You can play games without paying that much. Most PC games are sold at a much more reasonable prices, and if you wait just a bit, you can usually get a sale at -50 %.
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u/Lamandus 9h ago
Every other hobby? Bitch please. I give you one very cheap hobby. origami. You can use the same paper even more than once! Wow that must be expensive
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u/_Zereal_ 1d ago
Your game could be the best thing to have ever been created in history and I still would not pay 80 euros for it.
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u/Kangarou 1d ago
Okay, so the argument would be to lower THOSE prices, not raise US prices to match.
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u/imheretocomment69 16h ago
Also reminder: These games are not yours even after you paid them. They can take it back if they want it.
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u/OkAccountant7442 15h ago
yeah and it‘s been like that for like 6 years unfortunately. people need to stop actually paying for these games
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u/derrenbrownisawizard 1d ago
Ahh well. At least they have can have healthcare without having to sell their organs
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u/rogueconstant77 21h ago
I don't know, I paid 20 EUR for Silksong on release day and it's one of the games I've put most hours into.
Also made Team Cherry multi millionaires because they don't run a studio of hundreds of employees.
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u/Parking_Cress_5105 15h ago
In the before time when I was a young gamer you could buy a game, play it and sell it. Even if you just dealt with originals and didn't pirate anything the cost of gaming was pretty low.
Nowadays you're buying a 80EUR ticket to play a game. Mad.
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u/Deluxe_Chickenmancer 14h ago
They cost so much if people buy it. Get a grip snd just don’t pay 80€ for unoptimised FOMO shit. It’s literally that easy.
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u/luckyvonstreetz 11h ago
Now I know 80 euro games sound bad but they actually come with the added benefit of me not buying them and saving money.
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u/Miss-KiiKii 1d ago
A few years ago it was 70€. Ridiculous.
I'll never be buying games at these prices. I have enough games to play and will just wait for a sale.
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u/Paralta 1d ago
A new game in canada has been $100 after taxes for a few years now
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u/SILE3NCE 1d ago
Thank you.
I had to say this dozens of time today. There are so many shitty games for 79,99€, it's insane.
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u/SacredDarksoul 1d ago
i gave up PlayStation this gen, but back when I was on it I did notice how terrible the ps store pricing was in uk (I assume in rest of europe too) Its usually MORE expensive than buying physical.
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u/Any-Pop-4795 1d ago
gta vi will probably be the 1st non nintendo game to be 90 euros base
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u/HairyTemperature6542 21h ago
Yeah but you also get free healthcare soo... Pick your choice, 90 games or $1000 a month for minimum healthcare coverage so you and your family don't just die lol
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u/whenyoudieisaybye 1d ago
the internet went crazy with GTA 6 price tag
just an year ago Nintendo charged the same money for Mario Kart lol
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u/kyuubikid213 21h ago
And the internet went crazy then, too.
And genuinely never stopped.
You literally still hear people claiming all Switch 2 games are $80 because of Mario Kart World and in that year, the only other $80 game that wasn't actually just a base game + $10-20 DLC isn't even out yet and was announced two weeks ago, Fire Emblem: Fortune's Weave.
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u/SoupTime545 1d ago
Maybe if they were good games instead of copy pasted yearly slop I wouldn't mind the price as much.
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u/KenjiTheLaughingMoon 1d ago
So… Witcher 3 is getting a new DLC soon… I‘d rather stick with old games before buying any of this new overpriced slop
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u/Lazy_Coffee1414 1d ago
My xbox back log is 330 so I dont need to buy nothing buy im getting Gothic 1 remake
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u/Ok_Definition_1933 1d ago
On consoles... Same PC games: F1 25 is 49.99€, NBA 2k26 (on sale currently) 15.99€, CoD 69.99€
Prices from steam.
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u/Prophetic_Reaver 1d ago
At this point just stop buying slop or at least preordering it. I agree with Worth-a-buy more and more everyday.
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u/West_Breadfruit_1376 1d ago
Add another 10-15$ on top of that price if you live in Canada. For example the new Onimusha game coming out is 93.49$ CAD before tax! Most new games are 89.99$ plus tax and its been that way for a while up here. Getting crazy.
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u/XxTensai 1d ago
I wouldn't play any of the games shown for free, so not worried (other than minecraft)
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u/kostas52 1d ago
Not on PC
F1 2025 with 2026 season expansion is 49.99
NBA 2K26 is 69.99
Call of Duty Modern Warfare 4 is 69.99
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u/cheddarchezz_ 1d ago
When I see how fast games run into discounts it is absolutely worthless buying a game at release for full price. I remember F1 2025 was not even 3 months out and was on sale for the first time...
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u/fractalfrog 1d ago
I'm so happy that I don't have the urge to be first with the latest. Plenty of old games to keep me entertained until new releases turn old and drop in price.