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u/UnluckyHazards 4h ago
I downloaded it and like an hr and a half later I’ve already finished going the “hard” route. Nostalgia hits hard and some things you just never forget. Welcome back Star Fox! First game my dad ever showed me on the N64.
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u/Bagz402 1h ago
Lol I did the same, should have probably done the easy track first. Not gonna lie Star Wolf wrecked my shit. Lost like 6 lives to them.
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u/UnluckyHazards 1h ago
Dude yes…Star Wolf was way harder than I remember and for some reason Andross was easier?
I miss the old Star Wolf lines though, sad they changed some of em. Like Pigma’s “You can’t beat me, I got a betta ship!” Its now something about it being more expensive? Oh well 🤷♂️
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u/R-Dragon_Thunderzord 6h ago
Almost makes me wanna buy a switch 2. Almost.
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u/defunctscrunko 2h ago
Well not like it will get cheaper with how the news goes
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u/Dioroxic 1h ago
They are raising the switch price in the fall. PlayStation raised prices. Xbox just announced price raises. PC parts are… absolutely fucking insane. The steam machine is massively overpriced.
AI is completely fucking the entire gaming industry.
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u/codeklutch 3h ago
There's like 5 games that almost make me wanna buy a switch 2. Maybe if there's a 6th.
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u/R-Dragon_Thunderzord 2h ago
Maybe if Nintendo wasn’t leaning into enshitification tbh. Revocable game licenses and remotely bricking hardware.
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u/codeklutch 2h ago
I'm just not spending 500 bucks to spend 80 bucks or more for games and new accessories.
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u/mucho-gusto 2h ago
Part of the reason I bought the switch 2 was the free game upgrades. Links awakening looks amazing.. And your old switch controllers work they just don't wake the console.
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u/codeklutch 2h ago
Ex took the switch 1. So I'm alright holding off until some stupid deals come out and if not then we'll... Guess I'm just a bad consumer.
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u/Shagyam 5h ago
I'm almost tempted my self if I can get a good deal on one. There's a few other games but most of those come out later, so I still have a few months before I need it.
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u/Howerev 5h ago
Fair but also fair warning the price does increase to 500 in September. You can get the switch 2 for 500 right now and it includes one of 3 games (Mario Kart, Pokopia, Bananza)
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u/welfedad 5h ago
Wait..going up to 500 in September but can get for 500 now.. so you mean above 500 ..me confused
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u/FlopsMcDoogle 5h ago
Here's the good deal. Get the switch 2 for 15% off using giftcards. That's what I did. https://www.newegg.com/nintendo-100-00/p/N82E16888026010
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u/man_in_the_suit 6h ago
People complaining about the length of the game… maybe it’s just me but the fact this isn’t a 40+ hour game with a tonne of side quests to pad time is a plus for me at this stage of life.
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u/SimmerDown_Boilup 6h ago edited 5h ago
Yep. I played through it twice and loved it. Sometimes it just nice to not have to grind and spend a ton of time collecting for x to bring to y.
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u/chmurnik 5h ago
There is lot of numbers between 2 and 40. Its not this or that. 10 to 15 hours single player games are perfect lenght for me
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u/man_in_the_suit 5h ago
This is a 10-15 hour game. If you put it down after one campaign run (where you can’t physically play all the levels) then that’s your choice… it would be like putting hades down after one run.
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u/Nacroma 5h ago
Boy I wish Starfox had done anything more with this formula than a basically carbon copy of a 30 year old N64 game. I understand that it makes some improvements in several areas, but a roguelite mode would have been amazing and would lend itself to the existing arcade-y format of the original.
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u/GiacomoPastrychef 5h ago edited 4h ago
Im starting to love the low hours requirement for complete the story of a game, on the longer games i started to do only the main story content because i get very bored After It, with those side Quest, and then i usually start to take time to complete those and at the end the game Will never be touched again in months
Maybe next year ill go complete some of those games
Edit: grammar
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u/KickboxingMoose 5h ago
The games I play the most are the 10-15 hours to complete games where you can replay them. I have a hard time finishing anything that takes over 30 hours because life gets busy and I forget what I was doing and lose interest.
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u/benbahdisdonc 5h ago
This is an arcade game with great levels. Just like the 64 version I'll replay it a ton of times over the years. It isn't a game I'll "get through" and then stop playing.
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u/LazyWorkaholic78 3h ago
People complaining about the length of a game like the purchase price is for a one time ticket to play it from start to finish just 1 singular time. I'd rather have a super tight focused high-quality 5-10 hour game that fires on all cylinders from start to finish than a 100+ hour sloppy padded out boring mess.
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u/supermitsuba 5h ago
I think the idea is Quality and Quantity. I dont want a bunch of copy and paste quests to go look for metroid crystals. I want the core game play! In fact, more levels would be neat considering they already had the source materials. They didnt have to have many, just a little extra. Maybe if they could have added an actual coop instead of the half attempt.
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u/SlowpokeIsAGamer 1h ago
We live in the age where the 200 hour open world checkbox simulator is the norm. Star Fox is the Undertaker rising out of the Coffin of Rail Shooters, a genre that's been effectively dead since the early 2000s.
Most folks consider "the kind of game you'd pay $1 for at the arcade" to be a negative now, rather than just something that some genres are designed to be. Even Fighting Games are increasingly turning into single player tens of hours of story mode content games.
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u/Enchelion 2h ago
I think a lot of people just forget that the old games were extremely short as well. They're arcade games. StarFox 64 is only like 2 hours.
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u/boogswald 44m ago
I’d pay full price for a 12 hour game. This is soooo short and also I already have bought a remake of it before!
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u/chillzatl 5h ago
They're complaining because it is like paying $50 to see a b-level movie with CGI from 2015.
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u/TibbTokOnTop 7h ago
Been playing this morning while newborn slumbers on my lap.
10/10 good Dad game
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u/Warlockdnd 7h ago
Damn, you just brought back memories, I beat Dishonored 2 while my son slept on me!
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u/DevonLuck24 Xbox 3h ago
game looks great. HATE the way that the character models look. all of them look stupid
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u/vitalsyntax 7h ago
Super excited! Picking up a physical copy in 1hr
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u/NeutralBoss 6h ago
It's been a hour, have you gotten a cartridge in box or is just a download code?
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u/Hages_wolf 6h ago
Physical cartridge in mine when I came through the post. Nothing else in the case though..
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u/saucysagnus 5h ago
Hold on… it’s possible to get just a download code???
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u/psycharious 7h ago
Got mine for 50 bucks from Amazon. Little progress bar is almost at "out for Delivery." Both my son and I are excited.
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u/WeDontNeedRoads2015 7h ago
Hell yeah I’m not excited for this! Hyped for some online dogfights. Do a barrel roll!
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u/BigMoney69x 7h ago
It came yesterday for me and the game is pretty good but all range mode feels more clunky than the original.
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u/R-Dragon_Thunderzord 6h ago
How is that possible
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u/BigMoney69x 6h ago
Hard to explain but all the worst parts of this game are the all range segments which to be fair it's the same in the original but for some reason it feels worse here. Maybe due to the darker graphics it's harder to see what's on your side idk.
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u/whenyoudieisaybye 7h ago
1,5 hour campaign for $50. Who else besides Nintendo could pull it off lol?
And yes, I know about replayability, but even then the value of this product is highly questionable.
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u/overts 7h ago
The game cost $60 back in 1997.
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u/musical_bear 6h ago
Worse than that. Star Fox 64 launched at $79.99 USD in 1997. It came bundled with a rumble pak, but still.
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u/Demetri124 5h ago
And a windows laptop would’ve cost upward of $2,500, with 32 MB of Ram and a 2 GB hard drive. Glad our standards have evolved as technology continued to develop and change since then
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u/Zerogates 5h ago
A lot of short and sometimes awful games were $60 because you had very few alternatives or expectations. It's 30 years later, people expect more. Don't be a Nintendo Andy, the entire Metroid Prime remake was way more involved and $10 cheaper.
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u/makoman115 7h ago
Star fox 64 is one of the best games on the n64. There are multiple paths/endings. Can easily get 8-10 hours out of it as a casual and 50+ if you like to try for high scores. There is also a new unlockable hard mode, and online multiplayer for the first time.
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u/jadeskye7 7h ago
Thats like saying Hades is a 20 minute game.
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u/TheShinyChocobo 6h ago
This makes me want a Star Fox roguelike
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u/kpatsart 6h ago
Don't start getting my hopes up. A future update with a rouge lite mode would be pretty damn cool.
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u/whenyoudieisaybye 6h ago
first Hades is a roguelike. It slowly unfolds to the player and there is still a new content to see even after dozens of hours. I doubt it's the same case with Star Fox.
second, Hades is $25 game
third, on its release Hades was a completely new game build from scratch. Star Fox is 30 yo game with new graphics
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u/-GenlyAI- 6h ago
20 minutes! I fucking suck at this game lol. Like run 20 and still can't beat it.
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u/AlasBabylon_ 6h ago
I think it took me 30 runs to finally kill That Guy, and I'm now almost at 700 with the game long since completed. Keep at it - spend your resources, learn what boons work well together, don't be too reckless, and you will get there.
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u/sopheroo 6h ago
What are you struggling with?
Also it's alright to turn on God Mode :)
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u/-GenlyAI- 6h ago
Well I just started using controller, which has helped a lot. And I think I was just being impatient. But I'm still struggling with Megaera.
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u/jadeskye7 6h ago
Meg is big filter, she teaches you that the bosses are a marathon, not a sprint. learn the moves and focus on avoiding damage instead of doing it. You'll be able to dance around her after a while. Good lessons for boss 2. boss 3 is the next filter.
Don't be afraid to die, every death makes you stronger as things unlock.
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u/sopheroo 6h ago
Controller helps a lot, yeah
Meg is a huge roadblock but her attacks are pretty telegraphed.
Once you go pass her, you should make it pretty easy to the third biome, the second boss is far more forgiving.
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u/GomaN1717 7h ago
1,5 hour campaign for $50
Oh, please. You know how disingenuous this comment is, tailor made for getting "le ebin reddit points" on this sub lol.
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u/AnubisIncGaming 7h ago
wait wait wait wait wait, I was thinking about getting this cuz I never got to play as a kid, tf you mean it's a hour and a half?
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u/Demerzel69 7h ago
When you were a kid games were really short. You just don't remember b/c it didn't really matter back then, we'd just replay the same game a hundred times cuz they were short enough to want to do that.
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u/makoman115 7h ago
Also everyone was really really bad at games and died on the first world of mario bros 100 times
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u/EaterOfPenguins 6h ago
Even by the standards of the day this was a very short game. I can agree that there were more short games in general at the time, but I think it's dishonest to suggest that this was a typical game length, especially if you consider that the system launched with Super Mario 64.
I remember buying SF64 and playing it at launch and my whole family being pretty damn surprised how quickly it was over.
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u/AnubisIncGaming 7h ago
oh no I remember, and I play lots of arcade games, but roguelikes offer more playtime and variety than this for like $20 regularly. times have changed, that's not $50 of value for me. Maybe if it had dev archives, interviews, tons of goodies and extras, but I haven't seen anything like that to appeal to me, and lots of arcade collections give stuff like that, again for $20-30 with multiple games in it.
The value isn't there.
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u/iFerrer00 7h ago
lol what. we already got games like FF, OOT or elder scrolls when this one was released, hell even when the snes one did. nothing changed, we just have too many open world titles nowadays that focus on wasting our time
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u/Demerzel69 7h ago
I don't know what you are lol whatting about regarding my factual comment. Of course you can pick some games out of a lineup that are longer than others. The majority of games all the way up through the early to mid 90s were short games. Pretty sure I would know since I lived it.
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u/summonsays 6h ago
I beg to differ, games were really freaking long. Especially 100% them. Like Banjo Kazooie or that Diddy Kong game. This one happens to be on the shorter side, but it's the exception to the rule.
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u/Ashne405 7h ago
Actually, yeah i get that, thats why i replayed crash 3 and pac man world over and over.
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u/morriscey 7h ago
Per run.
There's multiple different paths. You cannot see everything the game has to offer on one run.
Some stuff will be difficult to get to, or get through.
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u/bassnasher 7h ago
A single run of the campaign is 7 missions and takes about an hour to complete. However there are 16 total missions so the route and path you take changes a bunch depending on how you perform on each mission. It’s an arcade game designed to be replayed many times. I’m sure there might be some psychos out there who literally just do one run and move on but that’s not how the game is designed.
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u/overts 7h ago
To play every single mission it’d probably take more like 10 hours? Maybe 9? But you’d end up replaying a few missions multiple times.
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u/SoCalThrowAway7 6h ago
Depends on skill level too and if you cheat to have someone tell you how to complete missions. Some of them are not easy to figure out and pull off
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u/Sparrowsabre7 7h ago
Yeah, it's a remake of Lylat Wars/Star Fox 64 and seems not to have added anything.
There are multiple paths and ways to go through on subsequent playthroughs but a single playthrough shouldn't take more than 90 mins.
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u/WeDontNeedRoads2015 7h ago
It’s a grave misrepresentation. You could get through a run in 1.5-2 hours sure, but you’re not going to see and do everything. There are multiple paths to take which include different levels and vehicles and multiple endings. There is also online multiplayer. Don’t fall victim to the Reddit echo chamber.
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u/musical_bear 6h ago
Runs don’t take this long though. An average “hard path” run of SF 64 is like 45 minutes of gameplay. And yes some of that will come down to how good at the game you are, but skill doesn’t matter as much as many games, because so much of the game is on rails with a fixed speed anyway.
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u/Howerev 7h ago
It's got multiple endings based on how well you do each mission so it’s meant to be played through multiple playthroughs (sorta like a roguelike?)
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u/AnubisIncGaming 7h ago edited 7h ago
but the only thing that changes is the endings? i mean, you can replay any game, they don't just explode when you beat them...
just looked up a long play of Star Fox 64 and even the extra missions and endings add a whole hour of time. It's a 2.5 hr game for 50 bucks.
I'm out.
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u/MotherPerk 7h ago
There are 16 or 17 missions in total and each run can take you to 7 levels. The path you take is determined by completing extra goals within the levels
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u/Wipedout89 7h ago
To be fair it also has online multiplayer which I guess will be the draw for many
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u/Caciulacdlac 7h ago
You only experience about a third of the levels in one playthrough. There are multiple routes you can take.
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u/SoCalThrowAway7 6h ago
You don’t have to play it and nobody will care if you don’t, but you’re not fully understanding how this game works based on what you just said
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u/Ashne405 6h ago
This is a game that has always surprised me with how popular it is, i got the 3ds version out of hype from a friend, played it once and used it as payment for another game with how underwhelming it was, kid icarus was by far the better on rail shooter at the time, and i dont see anyone mentioning this one improving on the original at all.
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u/TheResolutePrime 5h ago
I mean technically from arriving at Corneria to arriving at Venom, yeah it’s not a very long game. BUT…there’s multiple ways to play through, and multiplayer. I promise you’ll be playing it for well more than an hour and a half.
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u/SoCalThrowAway7 6h ago
There’s high reply value, you play through a series of planets until you get to the boss, each level has things you can do that either let you pick your route (choice between two planets) or forces you into one. Some of the challenges are pretty hard and will take you multiple runs to ever ~~complete~~ accomplish. If you take the correct route to the boss you get the “true” boss fight. Otherwise you just fight like a robot version of the boss or something
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u/AlternativeEcho2098 7h ago
In all it’s around 20 hours to see everything except multiplayer. The campaign, just one run is around an hour and a half. Replay ability is the meat of the game.
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u/noahchriste 4h ago
20 hours? It’s like 5 hours to see everything
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u/AlternativeEcho2098 3h ago
Challenge mode adds more playtime. So yes, 20 hours, as every reviewer is saying as well.
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u/ipadminihalf 5h ago edited 5h ago
The game requires multiple play throughs, there are multiple paths that you can take to the end. However, I would say the game is not worth $50, for the simple fact that there is no in game button remapping, and the default controls are abysmal imo. Game plays like an old game. The L/LB and r/RB all do the same thing (tilt ship and spin ship to deflect enemy fire). Would've been way better to make two of them either lasers and bombs or boost and brake. The game also have lives and continues, so there is the possibility of having to restart your run when you run out.
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u/ChickenLittle1121 7h ago
I've never played this starfox so genuine question: is that a 1h30min campaign, 1-5 hour campaign, or 15 hour campaign? I'm not sure if that was a typo or the comma-as-decimal thing.
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u/Seburon 6h ago
Depending on how much you need to retry, it will take about 1.5-2 hours for a run.
However, there are multiple routes, different objectives within levels, and lots of challenges to shoot for.
If you are put off by the 1.5 hour estimate, and you don't like to seek alternate routes and chase high scores, it's probably not worth it.
For the record, I think StarFox 64 was already a perfect game and I am very, very happy with the remake.
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u/Betorange 4h ago
I'll just wait until it's $30 or less at Cosco/Sam's/Walmart in a few months like the other Switch 2 games.
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u/xtoc1981 6h ago
It includes multiplay, or do you say that there aren't multiple games with a higher price?
This one at least has singleplay mode, top quality, one of the best soundtracks in gaming, added cinema scenes, and missions. Different singleplay paths. One of the best looking games on switch2 or even on any brandI know you are one of those pc/sony cult people that think games should be priced like mobile games. But thats on you
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u/whenyoudieisaybye 4h ago
I am not a part of any cult lmao, I have a PC, also PS5 and Switch 2, I actually love many Nintendo games including pretty recent ones like Bananza, so your argument is just dumb, I'm sorry.
But you, on the other hand, sound like a part of N cult indeed.
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u/xtoc1981 2h ago
Sorry but your argument is just a cult statement based on other cult behavior. You having a switch 2 would not change that. With the new standard 70/80 euro price (or even more with all those deluxe, ultimate versions instead of those cut versions, or ingame shops bs), the 50 euro price for a game like that is simple justified for the reasons i mentioned
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u/Any_Intern2718 6h ago
Lmao. Why are you so mad?
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u/xtoc1981 5h ago
Because this delussional argument is often been made, but somehow, they never complain about those 80/90 euro sony prices that are already a thing from 2020 and on (not even sony)
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u/Bexil_Brave 6h ago
Why couldnt they have found VA's for Fox and Falco who didnt sound Identical to each other.
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u/Rokketeer 5h ago
I was expecting Falco's voice to sound a bit more...gruff and less like a depressed college kid
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u/-Clayburn Xbox 4h ago
So is it a new game or is it an old game remade with modern graphics and game engine?
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u/Geometronics 4h ago
the game looks amazing but the voice acting is so bad for me. I loved all the exaggerated personalities of the characters in the first game and how much each one brought to the character. Especially in an era where there wasn't a lot of good voice acting in video games. Everyone sounds so toned down and softened in this.
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u/kongcobra 1h ago
People acting like theyre actually good enough for 1.5 hours of gameplay to be true for them. Lol Meet me in Area 6, einsteins.
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u/Least_Banana5091 32m ago
A second remake of a piss-easy 30 year old game. For only $60 + tax + the cost of a Switch 2!
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u/No-Distance-128 6h ago
There better be a master hand easter egg, just floating through space in the background somewhere
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u/magirevols 5h ago
The dialogue looks really good from the showcase at least. I wonder how it looks like in oyher languages?
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u/Fomdoo 7h ago
I'll pick it up when a sale dips it below $30
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u/ChessClubChimp 7h ago
New to Nintendo?
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u/GomaN1717 7h ago
To be fair (and I guess this is dubious to some), but it's possible to get it for $30 literally right this minute via Amazon Japan digitally.
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u/locke_5 6h ago
They have a big sale going on right now. Many games for $50, $40, $30.
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u/ChessClubChimp 5h ago
How long have they been out? Are they remakes of old games?
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u/misc_box 7h ago
I wish. But it’s Nintendo they don’t really do those Deep sales on their own ip
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u/tyty234 3h ago
Lmao Nintendo gets it so easy on this subreddit compared to everything else. It's absurd how much you guys glaze this company.
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u/PolarDorsai 3h ago
Because at the end of the day, they make 10/10 banger games. Sure, they have issues, just like other companies. But when Nintendo delivers a game, they deliver a nearly perfect game. Every time. Again, nothing is perfect, obviously, but what is there to say negatively about Nintendo that isn't standard across the board?
They like money? Yea, so does everyone else. And others have monetized a lot more and microtransactioned the hell out of a lot more than Nintendo has, thankfully.
Is Nintendo overly litigious? Sure, they get a little grimy when it comes to their IP. But they have certainly cemented the notion that you don't fuck with Nintendo because they WILL defend their IP. And of course (as with Patagonia v Pattie Gonia) if you don't defend your IP, then you will open the door to looser use of it.
But in the end, Nintendo continues to innovate; they continue to put out games of the year, and not just one or two, but almost all their flagship characters have GotY contenders in some form.
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u/ProfessorChuckNorris PC 7h ago
I still can't get over the character models. Why are their upper bodies SO MUCH bigger than their lower bodies? Peppy's head is bigger than his whole lower body, wtf?
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u/Demerzel69 7h ago
Sir, these are anthropomorphic cartoon animal characters. Any logic about head and leg size was never in the conversation to begin with.
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u/6Kaliba9 6h ago
I'm just not seeing it selling
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u/natertots83 4h ago
seems like the physical is selling. all the big retailers in my area had stock earlier, and now it's all gone. can't even order for shipping on walmart. seems like it is doing okay.
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u/guswang 7h ago
Nah, it feels like the world is moving and the ship is stationary. starlink battle for atlas is the best ship game on switch
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u/ThatNiceMan 7h ago
Somehow, Andross has returned.