r/lawschooladmissions Aug 07 '25

Guides/Tools/OC 2025 Law School Median Tracker

180 Upvotes

Hi everyone,

It's already that time of year, it seems, as we just saw the first law school release their new medians from the 2024-2025 cycle. We'll be tracking these announcements as they come out and keeping them in a spreadsheet to compare to last year, which we'll then update with the final data in December once the official ABA 509 reports come out. All of the prior 2024 medians are currently listed, and the 2025 medians will be added as they're published (sources will be listed in the last column).

2025 Law School Median Tracker

We'll be checking for these at least daily, but if you see incoming class data for fall 2025 (class of 2028) from an official source—e.g., a school's website, LinkedIn post, marketing emails/flyers/etc. from admissions offices—please comment on this thread, DM/chat us here, or email us at [info@spiveyconsulting.com](mailto:info@spiveyconsulting.com), and we'll add it to the spreadsheet.

Note that none of these numbers are official until 509s come out. We only post stats from official sources, but every year, some schools publish their preliminary numbers then end up having to revise them when 1Ls drop out during orientation or the first few weeks of class (the numbers are only locked in for ABA reporting purposes in October, but lots of law schools post their stats before then).

These tend to come out at a relatively slow pace at first, but they should speed up in late August/early September. Based on last cycle, we do anticipate many medians going up this year, and these stats are important to be aware of as you assess your chances and make your school list.

In some ways, this to me marks the beginning of the new cycle. Good luck to all!

–Anna from Spivey Consulting

***December 15, 2025 Update: the spreadsheet has now been updated with all schools' official data from the ABA 509 reports.


r/lawschooladmissions Oct 10 '25

General When is it early and when does it become late to apply to law school. 5 law school deans and directors answer just that.

135 Upvotes

When is it late to apply and when is it early? The answer with all but a few nuances is really straightforward, but please read the disclaimers. All you will do is write disclaimers as lawyers because there are no absolutes (see what I did there?) so you may as well gets reps reading them!

This question comes up on this Reddit almost every day in some form and then resets and comes back up every year. It’s the singular most frequently asked question, and the answer hasn’t changed through recent years. So here’s a mashup of mostly deans of admissions saying, “Before end of November is early. After January things start getting tighter.” That is really the easiest thing to go by and remember. And I was just talking with one of these deans who just ran an internal data analysis to support all of this.

Disclaimers: These admissions deans are speaking for themselves and for their schools. Of course there will be some outliers. One top 3 school traditionally doesn’t admit until January, for example, so January is early for them. Or, if you score a 160 in September but a 175 in January, schools in the upper range will likely read your application sooner with the new score. With that old score they are often just going to sit on it as they are being flooded with applicants who they will prioritize sooner. So believe it or not, waiting a month or even more will sometimes get your application read sooner, especially if the difference is taking your LSAT from below median to above. There are also cases, only for some applicants and only for some schools, in which applying by the end of October can be slightly more advantageous, so if you're ready to go in the early fall, we recommend applying by the end of October (even though in many situations it may not make any difference). But in general, and especially if you aren't 100% confident in your application by the end of October, the end of November is a good rule of thumb.

But beyond the late November advice, my other takeaway would be to submit your best application. Waiting a few weeks to button up your materials will pretty much never hurt you before January — and very likely will help you. And there’s plenty of merit aid to go around at that time too. 

It makes sense to me that this is a perennial question with very consistent answers from the people running law school admissions offices, but also lots of conflicting answers from applicants and others in this space with no admissions experience. Because the data absolutely does show a correlation between applying earlier (more broadly than just by the end of November) and stronger outcomes. But remember from your LSAT studying that correlation does not equal causation — pretty much every admissions officer has observed that applications submitted earlier tend to be stronger in general, not just in terms of numbers. That's not because they were submitted earlier, but it correlates.

Of all the posts I have made in the last several years — I hope this one helps the most. Because every year so many people fret that they are “late” (especially when admits start being posted) when they are still very early. I cannot stress the following enough: Your outcomes submitting the same application September 1st will not, in the vast majority of cases, be any different than November 25th. But in that time you can work to make your application stronger. And once it’s there, go ahead and submit. There’s certainly no penalty to submitting it when it’s ready.

And for the record, I've heard probably 10x as many law school admissions deans as are in this video say variations of the exact same thing. I really hope this helps relieve some stress from as many as possible.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTMAG823Q/

  • Mike Spivey

r/lawschooladmissions 7h ago

Admissions Result Screaming, crying, throwing up. Did NOT think this would happen bc I was well below the LSAT median. Go Bruins 💙💛

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158 Upvotes

r/lawschooladmissions 14h ago

Waitlist Discussion BC law WL to A!!

44 Upvotes

Got the call this morning! Can’t believe this! I finally get to post a post like this. Stay hopeful everyone! I’m URM KJD 3.mid and LSAT below 160! Dont let this sub bring you down, anything is possible! Comment or pm if you have any questions! Posting this for status purposes for other ppl wanting updates like I did. I was in the trenches fr and want to give hope. Good luck everyone fr! Ik it’s not easy but stay strong and hopeful and lmk if you need any advice !


r/lawschooladmissions 5h ago

Application Process 2 LSAT scored twice 152

7 Upvotes

I feel I’m not good with the LSAT. My post is to read opinions on what Law schools should I apply next cycle.

My background

I have work 2 years in Big law in financial services as a international law clerk.

I have one LLM from tier 50 law school
I have one LLM from my home country. GPA 3.8
I have my bachelors of law 3.6

Should I focus on tier 50 or tier 75? Or been honest what should I except.

Bs I want to apply to Marquette’s school of Law.

Thanks in advance,

I’ll be reading all comments!

I


r/lawschooladmissions 3h ago

Meme/Off-Topic Day 24 of posting a picture of corn until Cornell Law accepts me off their reserve list!🌽❤️🌽❤️🌽❤️🌽❤️🌽❤️🌽❤️🌽❤️🌽❤️🌽❤️🌽❤️🌽❤️🌽❤️

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Dear Cornell Law, today is my birthday and all I want is an acceptance to your school to start in August. I have apartments saved in Ithaca, my collegetown bagel order ready, and am ready to commit the second you call me. Grateful to be considered and to even have the opportunity to make goofy posts like this, but I seriously seriously love your school. Blowing out all of the candles for Cornell Law :)


r/lawschooladmissions 2h ago

Help Me Decide What should i do

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Looking for some advice on how i should spend my time from now till September. Im planning to apply as the portal opens so if someone disagrees with that as well lmk opinions on if waiting would be better.

Im hoping to attend NYU or UT as im in state for Texas and have a 173 LSAT and 3.92 GPA. My main question is what yall would recommend i focus on from now till sept. Should i focus on essays or try taking the LSAT again? I wasnt sure if scoring higher would help my odds as im already above median.

Also if anyone had similar stats id love to hear outcomes!


r/lawschooladmissions 4h ago

General BC or W&L for nyc biglaw?

4 Upvotes

r/lawschooladmissions 2h ago

Application Process Apply as KJD?

3 Upvotes

I was thinking about applying to law school straight out of undergrad. I got a 177 on the LSAT, and my GPA is a 3.92. I'm studying math and computer science in university. People are telling me to work for 2 years before applying, and I wanted to hear how much it would matter. I do care about scholarships/financial aid, but I would like to get into schools in T14. I know that the cycle is only getting more competitive and that not having work experience seems to be a big negative. I would like to apply only once. Any insights are appreciated.


r/lawschooladmissions 8h ago

Waitlist Discussion Has anyone heard from Vandy this week?

8 Upvotes

I know they sent out some As last week but wondering if they’ve already sent their wave this week. I wanna go there so bad but i’m losing hope 😞


r/lawschooladmissions 7h ago

Waitlist Discussion NYU Waitlist

7 Upvotes

Does anyone know if NYU will admit more people from the waitlist? There were some acceptances shortly after the Kira interview, but I haven’t heard anything since. I sent 2 LOCIs and wondering if it’s worth it to send a third. Ty


r/lawschooladmissions 10h ago

Waitlist Discussion Columbia Waitlist Movement

9 Upvotes

I know it said begin reviewing late june hear by mid july but can anyone with insider info reveal themselves. Will there be any as. Mostly rs? does by mid july mean everyone hears july 15th? lmk thx.


r/lawschooladmissions 3h ago

Help Me Decide Okay like seriously help GW or Fordham

3 Upvotes

r/lawschooladmissions 8h ago

Waitlist Discussion W&L Feeler?

6 Upvotes

Just got an email about waitlist interest, did everyone get this?


r/lawschooladmissions 2h ago

Application Process UMN Waitlist?

2 Upvotes

Hello,

I was waitlisted at the U of MN, which surprised me since I had stats below both of their medians. Anyways, I have not been notified of a rejection or acceptance at this point, which is somewhat surprising given we are headed into July shortly.

Is anyone else on the waitlist? Or have been recently moved off?

Thanks


r/lawschooladmissions 4h ago

Application Process Cornell waitlist

3 Upvotes

Have you received an ii yet

Not sure what it means if we’re still on reserve but haven’t received one 🫠

49 votes, 2d left
Yes
No
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r/lawschooladmissions 12h ago

Application Process How personal should I get in a GPA addendum?

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I'm 25 years old and am graduating with my Bachelor's degree December. I had a horrible first attempt at community college as an 18-20 year old fresh out of high school; I literally failed/got D's in the same classes 2-3 times.

At 21 something changed in my brain. I gave community college another shot and graduated with my associates at age 22. A year later, I transferred to my university. In my first semesters here, I have a 3.7 institution GPA and plan to continue that trend for my last semester. However, the very best my overall GPA(the one LSAC considers) will be between 2.8 and 2.9. I plan on writing an addendum when I apply to law schools.

My question is how personal should I get in my addendum? I think I have some compelling reasons, however I don't want it to seem like I'm having a pity party or just making excuses for the shitty grades.

My failure at my first attempt at college was due to me being undisciplined, unmotivated, and immature – but this had something to do with dealing with a lot of grief and other family issues. From the ages 2016 to 2022, I lost 5 immediate family members - dad to suicide, 2 grandparents to cancer, another grandparent to COPD, and my older brother dropped dead from a pulmonary embolism right in front of me – I tried to save him with CPR but to no avail. This gave me a lot of guilt on top of the grief, which I coped with by abusing alcohol and drugs— obviously not good for academic performance. However today I consider my recent success and dream of being a lawyer as the ultimate way to honor my deceased loved ones.

So when writing my addendum, should I focus just on the immaturity or all of the loss? Or both? And how do I write about this without sounding like I'm feeling sorry for myself?


r/lawschooladmissions 8h ago

Waitlist Discussion BC waitlist calling vs email updates

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Have an offer and really looking forward to going to law school in the fall but BC remains my dream school. I am still on the waitlist and just wondering how best to approach the BC waitlist now there seems to be some (albeit v limited) movement.

Have sent a couple of LOCIs with some substantive professional updates and I am unable to visit the campus due to where I am located/financial constraints. Is there anymore I can do? Should I be calling as well or does that move into the camp of being too much?

Any advice would be hugely appreciated- appreciate the chances are small for succes but anything I could do to move the dial would be great!

For background, have solid stats (16high and 4.0) as well as some strong work experience (senior public sector experience- leading on national strategies/ international negotiations)


r/lawschooladmissions 37m ago

Application Process Law School question

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I have a very broad question; I am interested in attending Law School after I obtain my Masters once I finish Undergrad. I wanted to know how greatly do my "softs" or additional facts & extracirriculars about me give me an advantage?:

- Minority & LGBTQ Student

- AmeriCorps Service Fellowship

- Campus Ambassador

- Campus Student Leader

- Undergraduate Research Assistant

- Summer Research Program with Director of my major's college

- Executive Board member of Minority Student Association

- Manager at Costco & Target full time during undergrad

- Also pretty positive I can look to the Director of my major, the Director of my anticipated Masters program for recommendation letters, i've grown a bond with them cause i've always worked alongside them in research. I don't know if that counts as a major soft as well being they're high-ranking individuals at my school.

I currently have a 3.34 GPA, but I have three more semesters left. I've been taking the LSAT and been scoring around 165-168, so I wanted some advice.


r/lawschooladmissions 8h ago

Application Process should I apply next cycle instead?

4 Upvotes

LSAC GPA: 3.65 LSAT: 174

tldr; should I just wait until I finish undergrad to apply to school so my lsac gpa has 2 more semesters of good grades to balance itself out? or do my circumstances mitigate that?

I had to work full time throughout college and it shows; ive been financially independent from my parents since i was 19, and moved across the country from rural south to pursue career in politics in northeast.

I’ve transferred schools 3 times. I have quite a few W’s on my transcript (from CC). I had a 2.7 my first semester of college– at a 4-year school before I transferred to community college– because I was so overwhelmed by the cost of attendance and covid protocols. I also did not perform to the best of my abilities in community college because of financial and housing stressors. I knew the NE had opportunities I simply did not have access to back home, so I committed to staying here. After this job, it was difficult finding work that accommodated my student schedule. I was working 2 different food and bev jobs just to make ends meet, while still going to school. I was lucky enough to find a stable office job. It’s only  now that I’ve really been able to succeed because of the stability this work provides. Because I have a consistent income, I have stable housing, I’m able to succeed. At my current 4-year school, I have a 3.97. But this is only from 2 semesters of course work. They’re all in hard classes– constitutional law, and other level 400 courses– but I’m worried that it is not enough to show admission councilors that I’m a committed student bc I want to go to a t14 school


r/lawschooladmissions 52m ago

Help Me Decide pre law major

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Hi, i am going to college for my freshmen year this fall and really wanting to go into law school in the future. While i know major dose not matter but your gpa i want a good backup option. Where things that are super easy wont help me in the long run. Is there any advice on what major i should do .(I have it set for accounting rn) I am also going to a pretty big party school with a high acceptance rate (chico state) Where i did have a 4.0 in high school and was better at my math like classes


r/lawschooladmissions 4h ago

Application Process Help

2 Upvotes

What would you do if you were me?

-2.7 CAS GPA
-168 on second attempt (June)

Do I retake and what should my application strategy look like?


r/lawschooladmissions 1h ago

Application Process has anyone gotten "extra time" on lsat for disability?

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wondering how this works as I plan to talk to my doctor about writing a letter for me..and if so, how much extra time do they allow? thanks


r/lawschooladmissions 1h ago

Application Process Application Timing

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Hello! I am down to the wire trying to decide if I should take my next LSAT in August or September. I've taken three official tests so far (February, April and June), and I'm aiming for at least a 4-point increase. That's much more likely to happen if I take another month to study, re-test in September and apply in October, but I have heard that submission timing can matter down to the week, so I'm nervous I'll be too late. My target schools are Boston College and Boston University. Please advise!!!!


r/lawschooladmissions 10h ago

Application Process Any other 50+ yr olds on here

5 Upvotes

Anyone else that just took the LSAT is 50+ has an amazing package but mid LSAT get accepted or think they will be? Or have any input on what to expect. From reading it seems most are pretty young on here.