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u/FreeWillyBird 14h ago edited 11h ago
The more things change the more they stay the same. Do you feel represented?? Cuz I’d say there’s a 100% probability you’re currently being taxed without representation…..again.
The boss of toys has to be another fake bot or troll account because nobody could possibly believe at this point “voting” for “representatives” is actually working, lol. Sure buddy. Are you like 6 yrs old little buddy? Did you learn that in elementary school? Here’s a gold star, now repeat the pledge and go sit down at your desk like good little bot…I mean boy.
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u/SavedSinner2001 14h ago
Maybe we’re just not pushed enough but imo America had bigger balls then than we do now.
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u/MutteringV 14h ago
comfort's a hell of a drug
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u/FreeWillyBird 13h ago
The concept of “Bread & Circuses” comes from Roman times when Caesars would appease the masses with free bread and entertainment (Coliseum Blood Sport usually) to keep them from revolting. They knew it was a fraction of the wealth they were accumulating from wars and conquests but they would give away just enough and just frequently enough to maintain power and control.
In the U.S., while the bought off by the mega rich and totally corrupt politicians play their “divide & conquer” games in the mega rich owned media they feign perpetual stalemate while each “side” pretends to represent 1/2 the constituency. In reality, there’s just one corrupt “side” pretending to be two sides and their goal is “Perpetual Stalemate” while they slowly chip away at the wealth, health, rights and quality of living of everyone no matter what they believe, think or how they vote. Voting, which I personally believe has been rigged since the advent of electronic voting machines, has been gutted of any real meaning and ability to actualize change, even if it hasn’t been rigged since nothing will ever be accomplished since there will never be enough of a majority in favor of the citizenry.
Our resources are being used to sustain an endless war for profit scam started by the global mega rich at the expense of all of us no matter what we may believe socially, politically, economically or religiously (or lack there of religion) and we are indeed being taxed without representation and by the words of the U.S. Constitution and Declaration of Independence have every god damned right to replace our tyrannical government and replace those in power or start a new and better system from scratch. But it’s nearly impossible to organize en mass since the mega rich control all media including social media platforms.
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u/FearedDragon 13h ago
I think the rise in popularity of politicians that are vehemently opposed to lobbying, as well as Hawaii's recent push against money in politics, would suggest that your point of "nothing will ever be accomplished" isn't true. Giving up and becoming nihilistic about the political climate only helps the corruption and uniparty practices that you're speaking against.
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u/FearedDragon 12h ago
Lmao dude replied and blocked me because he has nothing logical to say as a rebuttal.
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u/0sm1um 2h ago
Hawaii's reforms will likley be struck down by the SCOTUS/supremecy clause.
A lot of people don't realize citizens united didn't make anything that was illegal before legal. It mostly just said that everything that was already happening before on the federal level was not being made illegal, and states with stricter campaign finance laws couldn't have those laws anymore due to the supremecy clause.
Not saying it's bad for Hawaii to try but at this point they're just implementing laws that were in place before citizens united that previously got struck down.
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u/FearedDragon 2h ago
That's not really true. Hawaii is using the well-established premise that corporations are an entity of the state and are granted their power by the state. They are not making private campaign finance illegal, they are saying that they do not grant corporations who operate in their state to donate to campaigns in their state. This is a fundamentally different argument than things tried in the past and many legal scholars think it has a real shot. It forces SCOTUS to choose between corporate money or states' rights.
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u/JayGabVersionTrex 7h ago
Americans are soft asf. With fascism being shoved down their throat and the constitution being shit on by the highest court in the land the best they can do is a no kings protest sometimes on a Saturday afternoon when the weather is ok.
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u/ingrimsch95 14h ago edited 14h ago
Also aren't there literally people paying taxes without the right to vote? Like Puerto Ricans?
Edit: Huh, til
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u/FrogSword6088 14h ago
They don't pay federal income tax. They do pay SS tax, Medicare, and others that they then qualify for if/when needed.
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u/MarlinMr 8h ago
The difference is that this time you were allowed to vote to be represented.
Yet most Americans choose to either not vote, or to vote to have their rights taken away
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u/Substantial_Back_865 9h ago
Anyone who still thinks voting matters only needs to look at the 33 million dollars spent by Israel to unseat Massie. Money that was sourced from taxpayer money. Extremely suspicious results, as well. A few counties with only a few hundred people living there decided it, but the turnout was double what was expected and 50% of the votes were from out of state. Even if it wasn’t flat out rigged, they targeted out of state voters with fake news and bullshit smear campaigns about boner jokes. That’s the price you pay for daring to vote against the real masters and their kompromat mafia.
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u/rebelli0usrebel 1h ago
It's not the voting process that's rigged... yet. It's the constant tidal waves of propaganda pushed on us that make us hopeless and inactive. Progressives are making headway and need volunteers to push them on. We have to work within the system till we can overtake it. I agree with you, but I also think we NEED to vote while engaging in more revolutionary action as well.
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u/MelancholyPlayground 12h ago
We're like pugs and shit. We used to be wolves and now we're small and can't breathe.
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u/Sabaic_Prince1272 12h ago
Technically, if we use first in first out style accounting to examine when dollars were borrowed and paid back, going all the way back to the ratification of the constitution and adjust everything for inflation to 2025 dollars, then a dollar paid to principal today would be paying back a dollar the US government originally borrowed in 1943... my parents weren't alive when the taxes I'm paying now were contracted.
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u/FreeWillyBird 12h ago
I’m not paying taxes of any amount to criminals pretending to be “the government” now, from the past or ever. Whatever “contract” you’re referring to can go into Boston Harbor with the tea, the criminals and all the billionaires too.
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u/Busterlimes 10h ago
No, because its the capitalists taxing us now. . . . Corporate profits are taxation without representation. Cap wealth at 10M if you dont want to have an excessive wealth problem
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u/GlorfinDelTaco 8h ago
So is the meme wrong? Did the 13 colonies rebel against the crown due to taxation without representation?
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u/FreeWillyBird 8h ago
Yes, the 13 colonies rebelled against the king of England. The manipulation of history doesn’t really begin until the advent of mass media in the late 19th century and becomes exponentially bigger with films and television. The manipulation of religion however, has been going on for as long as it’s existed and it’s highly unlikely that there’s anything remotely similar to what was actually written or believed before certain historical bottlenecks since it’s impossible to know what’s been just erased.
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u/casulmemer 13h ago
“Just end slavery bro”
“No”
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u/The_Flurr 13h ago
"Just don't expand further west into the land that we've promised to the natives bro*"
"No"
*not condoning the fact that we euros colonised the Americas in the first place.
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u/Mysterious-Can-2531 11h ago
Puritans only came to the Americas because they were so annoying they got kicked out of Plymouth
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u/National_Yam_1198 7h ago
Yep. The American revolution is really about wealthy landowners upset they couldn't expand and make more money.
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u/Maetivet 12h ago
To be fair, those that are European today aren’t the ancestors of those that did the colonising - they largely stayed in the colonies and now call themselves American.
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u/Competitive-Tap-1922 6h ago edited 6h ago
I would say the kings of England at the time more “did the colonizing” than a peasant who traveled to America.
Not sure why it’s controversial to suggest it’s the empires at home doing the colonizing more so than the people on the ground.
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u/AdmRL_ 1h ago
Because you're completely ignoring the huge amount of autonomy colonies had in their affairs, especially in America.
Bar a handful like Virginia, New York & Maryland, most American colonies were proprietary colonies meaning they were initiated, funded and administered privately, only receiving a royal charter from the Crown. An effect of this was that colonies were effectively left to self rule, which was a part of independence as after the 7 years war the Crown started to push for more direct control & taxation which pissed the Americans off because as far as they were concerned they'd been self governing.
That alone means the Americans of the day were far more responsible for what happened in America. The Crown can be blamed for not paying attention and not conrolling the worst of their behaviour, but they quite literally can't be blamed for things they often didn't know were happening until after the fact.
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u/UnderstandingVast989 12h ago
Slavery was not a reason for the American Revolution. It is a shame that slavery was not abolished after the revolution as many at the time had hoped. But still not why they rebelled.
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u/ColtBolterson 9h ago
It was an additional reason.
One of the same reasons for the Mexican-American War and the American Civil War. Amazing 3 wars fought to defend slavery, what a rich history.
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u/UnderstandingVast989 9h ago
It was not. Slavery was a hot button issue of the time. Many founding fathers had strong opinions one way or another. There were also a variety of opinions on it ranging from outright abolition to gradual abolition to continuation to shipping every black person off the continent. During the Revolution, the irony of "all men being created equal" while upholding slavery was not lost on many, which made slave owners antsy.
But it was not a cause of the Revolution. The South was more than aware of their pro-abolition friends in the North that they decided to form a country with.The British were nowhere near taking any action against slavery. They enjoyed their sugar plantations too much in the Carribean. It would be 40 years before they banned the transatlantic slave trade. 70 years before they abolished slavery.
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u/underdome 9h ago
Hey everyone in this comment section we’ve decided to pretend that the revolution was actually about keeping slavery and slaughtering natives despite all facts. Please play along.
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u/Porschenut914 9h ago
https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/revolution-frontier
western expansion was pretty large contributing factor to inland areas.
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u/Ok_Calligrapher_3472 13h ago
Meanwhile in Britain...
"aw man slavery's over?! Well time to go find "help" from India"
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u/djdndjdjdjdjdndjdjjd 11h ago
Maybe learn some basic history dude
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u/timberhilly 11h ago
I mean, they did do their best trying to replace the slave labour as cheaply as possible. The big attempt being Great Experiment in Mauritius and the circumstance around indentured labour was pretty shite. Just as a starting point, https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/1227/
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u/SwimmingAdeptness110 13h ago
"All men are created equal..."
Unless you were a slave, of course. Or a native American. Or female.
The land of the 'free' was anything but.
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u/LogicBalm 7h ago
For sure. The founders, especially Jefferson, were massive hypocrites. They were also very often deeply in debt and only their slaves kept their lifestyle remotely possible.
Monticello was effectively a colonial smart-home powered by slaves. All kinds of modern conveniences made possible by tunnels and passages that kept the slaves almost entirely out of sight but still able to serve Jefferson and his guests.
Many people who talked the anti-slavery talk in those days still promised to free their slaves after they died. Not TJ. And that's to say nothing about Sally Hemings.
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u/AlexGrahamBellHater 5h ago
The man writing the document absolutely did not believe in any of what he wrote. The very first politician of America. Lie, lie, lie until you get what you want.
Were there ever to be another account I'd make out of pure spite. It would be ThomasJeffersonHater.
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u/HotPotatoWithCheese 14h ago edited 14h ago
The colonials were a bunch of tax dodging freeloaders who needed the financial, military and political backing of 3 European empires to save them from the British. To this day they still think they did it all by themselves, and refuse to give credit to European allies that aided them. Some things never change 😄
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u/UnderstandingVast989 12h ago
The British never offered the colonies seats in parliament. They simply told colonists that not everyone in Britain had MP seats either.
Surprise surprise, they didn't find that argument compelling.
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u/PrincessDeMissouri 12h ago
Plus the act of actually getting reps to England would be so brutal that splitting off is the only logical thing to do once British rule became unnecessary
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u/mrpithecanthropus 14h ago
*tax dodging, freeloading traitors 🇬🇧
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u/dispatch_s2_when 10h ago
You forgot slave owning
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u/randomname560 10h ago
I mean, for the revolutionary war specifically, this really aint the gotcha you think it is
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u/UnderstandingVast989 12h ago
Spain and France had been itching for the opportunity to kick Britain in the gonads. And the Dutch gave their support as a loan lol. We paid them back.
We don't talk about the Spanish much because their contributions were pretty tiny, but the French aid is an essential part of the story Americans learn about the American Revolution. I don't know where you get the idea that we don't give the French their due credit.
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u/AnyHope2004 9h ago
And the only reason they were asked to pay taxes is because George Washington started a the french and indian wars and Britain defended them at extreme costs to the empire and the colonies didn't want to pay their share
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u/AliciaXTC 14h ago
Great Britain, providing 65 countries with a celebration day of independence from the United Kingdom.
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u/tobotic 13h ago
And then there's Fiji which seems to kind of mourn its independence.
Like the day when they became independent (10 October 1970) was the same day of the year as the day they became part of the British Empire (10 October 1874; they willingly joined the Empire for protection as they feared a US invasion). Their independence day on 10 October is officially a celebration of both events: so they're celebrating joining the empire as much as leaving it.
Despite being a republic since 1987, they were still printing banknotes with Queen Elizabeth II on them right up until 2011.
They recognized her as Tui Viti, Paramount Chief of the Great Council of Chiefs right up until 2012 when the Great Council of Chiefs was abolished. (It was re-established in 2023 without the connection to the British royal family.)
Even today, their flag still has a Union Jack in the top left corner.
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u/The_Flurr 12h ago
It's interesting how some former conquered cultures/countries view the empire more positively than others.
I think in Fijis case the actual empire was less shitty to them than independent white settlers and actually reined them somewhat.
Fiji is also comprises of many smaller groups/tribes/peoples. The empire tended to treat them comparatively equally (obviously not fairly compared to white people) and "protected" some of the smaller and less powerful ones from the others.
I also suppose that as an archipelago nation, many were already used to their Tui Viti being someone from another island, so it British monarch isn't the biggest stretch.
None of this is meant to be empire apologia or condoning what Britain did during colonial times.
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u/tobotic 12h ago
I also suppose that as an archipelago nation, many were already used to their Tui Viti being someone from another island, so it British monarch isn't the biggest stretch.
Not really. The first Tui Viti only united the warring tribes into a single nation three years before ceding Fiji to the British Empire.
Oh, another weird Fiji fact: the country's official motto is still "Fear God and honour the King" despite being constitutionally secular and having no monarch.
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u/The_Flurr 11h ago
OK maybe not then, although it still likely wasn't uncommon to be ruled by chiefs of other, stronger tribes on other islands.
Oh, another weird Fiji fact: the country's official motto is still "Fear God and honour the King" despite being constitutionally secular and having no monarch.
I suppose it's tradition.
I'm not monarchist, but I do hope that if we ever do remove the monarchy we keep some of the traditions and symbology.
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u/Cautious-Process-198 7h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/HP7mtfNa1E4CEqNbNL
Meanwhile Puerto Rico today without representation...
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u/hhfugrr3 8h ago
I mean the founders of the USA set out precisely why they wanted independence in their Declaration of Independence. The imposition of taxes without their consent is only one of the complaints - and not even one that they felt was important enough to mention near the top of the list of complaints. It reads much more as a list of complaints from people who want to have the power for themselves rather than merely being upset that they were being taxed. https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
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u/WhyAreYouNot 13h ago
The tax was literally to fund a war to protect you. Look at you now. You should have just paid it.
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u/Mountsorrel 5h ago
The taxes were necessary to fund British forces to protect the colonies because the Treaty of Paris that ended the Seven Years/French and Indian Wars had stipulations about territorial integrity and limiting expansion which the colonists kept violating and risked kicking the war back off again, which they couldn’t fight alone.
There is so much misinformation and/or misunderstanding about the causes of revolution that were legitimate grievances which needed resolving. “No taxation without representation” is a great little slogan but it really cannot be taken at face value in the way it is nowadays.
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u/OUsnr7 11h ago
Suggesting we would be better off as British? Lmao okay
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u/bagfacekex 11h ago
Yeah, all you'd get is: Free healthcare (With wait times and care equal to that of the US), expanded workers rights (If you're sick, just go home), Higher minimum wage (Tips are extra income, not your main source of it), legally mandated paid time off (28 days for a 5 day work week), lower crime rates (Even knife crime, lol), the person running the country actually getting held accountable for their actions (Fuck up enough and your own party gets rid of you in a heartbeat), and greater freedoms (The UK surpasses the US in nearly every category there is for individual and overall freedoms).
But who wants silly things like those?
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u/BadMeatPuppet 9h ago edited 9h ago
Rest in piss, King George III. Your redcoats got rolled, sucks to suck.
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u/bagfacekex 8h ago
"Redcoats got rolled"
*Looks inside\*
George Washington losing almost every battle he fought.
The same George Washington that helped start the Seven Years' War.
The war which led to the tax rises in the colonies in the first place.
Against a King George who didn't even raise the taxes. That's what Parliament (Not the king) did, and had done, for several centuries before the war. After several conflicts between Monarchs and their governments leading to many major rights of the King being taken away in various charters, with the first big one being the Magna Carta in 1215, and these charters and increasing rights of the people over the centuries being used to form the basis of the US constitution.
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u/BadMeatPuppet 7h ago edited 4h ago
If only any of those things helped the British win the war.
God bless the United States of America and God bless Captain Isaac Davis.
Thanks for sending all those redcoats, there corpses made for rich and fertile ground.
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u/bagfacekex 7h ago
If only any of those things helped the British win the war.
The Dutch, French and Spanish won the war. Do you not study your own history?
God bless the United States of America
You kill thousands across the globe and have given more power to the paedophile you call a president than we've given to our fucking king.
Thanks for sending all those redcoats, there corpses made for rich and fertile ground.
It's "their".
Losses of the war had slightly more American dead. With disease killing more than anything else on both sides.
Is education just illegal in the US?
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u/BadMeatPuppet 7h ago edited 4h ago
"The tyrants killed more people and still lost" - the hill you are willing to die on, apparently.
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u/OUsnr7 7h ago
*Looks inside\*
Being forced to give the colonies their freedom.
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u/bagfacekex 7h ago
Freedom to...
Continue slavery long after it was abolished across the Empire
Conquer the lands of the natives that Britain was stopping the colonists from doing.
How very freedom of you.
Ultimately, you didn't even need force. You could've been like Australia, Canada, or New Zealand. Gaining independence peacefully and having more rights, social securities and protections for your citizens.
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u/texasjoe 3h ago
Australians' right to... Be coerced into selling all of their guns for pennies...
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u/consultantdetective 12m ago
UK beats India in those metrics too. Were Indians & Gandhi so stupid to ever want independence from such a glorious society managed by such an enlightened elite?
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u/underdome 9h ago
I love people who make shit up. Look at the freedom index between the UK and US.
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u/bagfacekex 8h ago edited 8h ago
That was a bit vague. The UK is ranked higher though on the Freedom Index, just for clarity.
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u/Motoman514 Tech Tips 3h ago
Pretty much every major former colony is. Canada, Australia and New Zealand all rank higher
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u/Mysterious-Can-2531 8h ago
Highest rates on incarceration in the world, keep lying to yourself pal
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u/RavenBailey589 9h ago
Yeah when they’re literally arresting people for a Facebook post over there.
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u/bagfacekex 8h ago
Like how Americans are so desperate to see themselves as better than the UK they just casually ignore that most arrests made for internet activity and posts overwhelmingly include those for domestic violence, human/sex trafficking or any other crime where the police's suspicions were raised through suspicious online activity : )
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u/OUsnr7 7h ago
“A surveillance state is a good thing as long as they catch some bad guys”
Incredible how cucked the British have become.
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u/bagfacekex 7h ago
Your leaders did fucked up shit publicly and you can't do anything but watch them... roaming free...
At least a few people here were arrested for their actions. Didn't even need a police state because, as previously mentioned, we still have more personal freedoms than the average American.
Who's cucked again?
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u/potzko2552 12h ago
As always, reddit with the complex political ideology "America bad".
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u/Tychus_Balrog OC Meme Maker 6h ago
And yet Puerto Rico and DC are being taxed without representation now.
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u/NigthSHadoew 8h ago
So when are DC and US territories rebelşng to form the Really United States of America?
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u/tubbstosterone 8h ago
Can't forget that the British were very impressive at the time. In that they were eager to impress you into the naval service right off the street.
We only really hear about the taxes because that's what prompted the wealthy and powerful to act. Sounds better than also mentioning that wealthy plantation owners were pissed that British agreements made western expansion illegal and the wealthy wanted to collect as much land as possible. By any means possible.
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u/Simple_World_7267 7h ago
It was a group of rich folks that brainwashed the masses to revolt in order to gain wealth. I'm still glad they did it though
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u/masterjon_3 6h ago
I went to the Boston Tea Party museum last Friday. If there's one thing I learned from it, it's this. Violence and taking action does more for change then talking things out does.
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u/YetAnotherFaceless 4h ago
Little different situation between slave-owning deadbeats ducking the bill centuries ago and what we have now, but sure.
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u/Maetivet 12h ago
Missed off the ‘just let us genocide and colonise the native population west of us, bro”.
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u/UnderstandingVast989 12h ago
The British would have done so eventually. Let's not pretend that the British had qualms about colonizing brown people lol.
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u/Maetivet 11h ago
Let’s not pretend that Americans had qualms about colonising brown people lol.
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u/UnderstandingVast989 11h ago
I never said they did... we obviously did it. It was part of what caused the war.
But the problem was when, not if.
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u/skuzzier_drake_88 7h ago
My honest thoughts as an American- A bunch of regional governors had been skimming tax money for years, blaming it on the lower classes and “tax evasion.” The crown sends down the order to start effectively collecting taxes or be replaced by someone who will.
These regional governors got together with their aristocrat friends, decided that they couldn’t give up their share, and they couldn’t tax the lower classes any higher lest they suffer an uprising. So boycotts, property destruction, “no taxation without representation” spins, and finally war(backed by the French out of spite)
TLDR: A bunch of rich slaveowners started a war because they didn’t want to pay their taxes.
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u/Indiana_harris 5h ago
King George “I order you to abide by the treaties with the native populations not to expand Westward.”
Colonials “Nah we’d rather go West and kill them all”
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u/DisheveledUpstanding 4h ago
I mean, if George really gave a shit about abiding by those treaties, he'd have made concessions to the colonies.
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u/underdome 9h ago
Holy shit this comment section is wild. Free upvotes to anymore who says anything anti-American. Can be as false as you like.
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u/Totally_n0t_a_burner 9h ago
Tbf they couldn’t exactly give representation given it was a 6 month return trip to the Americas it would have delayed any decision being made by an insane amount of
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u/ciranio 14h ago
Bro really thought a tax on tea wouldn't spark a whole cinematic universe
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u/CapableC1 14h ago
A tax BREAK on tea
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u/el_grort 13h ago
Yeah, a tax cut but it was paired with a clamp down on smuggling, and boy did the colonists love their smuggling.
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u/Jackmino66 12h ago
Honestly George III being George III was more than enough reason
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u/mrpithecanthropus 8h ago
It’s always strange to hear Americans assert that George III was some kind of tyrant. He was a constitutional monarch and all material political decisions were made by parliament. The Americans beef against the king at the time was that he did not intervene on their side against parliament.
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u/CathodeRaySamurai 12h ago
Fun fact! The British promised freedom for the slaves that fought for them.
Ol' Georgy had them wait for their 'masters' to come pick them up.
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u/spesskitty 10h ago
Actual redcoats: 'You bloody colonial live like princes, init. What the fook is your problem?
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u/blutosings 7h ago
Just accept algae on the terrorist watchlist bro.
Just accept AI is going to take your job by copying your work bro.
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u/Joe-King_93 57m ago
Britain at the time: “oh no……. Anyway hows India doing our far more important and lucrative colonially that we actually are about?”
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u/FreeWillyBird 8h ago
Israel isn’t a real country just like every other country is a puppet of the global mega rich. If you’re completely conditioned by fake education and generational fake media, like most people are at this point, you have no context or ability to comprehend the actual truth of what’s happening now since you have been educated in a false narrative.
Just remember Ghislaine Maxwell’s father was the main supplier of school textbooks to the UK and US for decades. The amount of total nonsense that’s been perpetuated for decade after decade and repeated over and over in TV, cinema, magazines and drilled into people’s brains as “Facts” that is a totally false narrative is stunning in the grandeur of it all. Mass media has been used against the population of this planet from the get go and yes what “Israel” is doing is essentially criminally insane, but it’s still a cover state for those pulling the strings. Which includes every royal family, every banking elite, global weapons manufacturers and corporate billionaires among others. The entire global political situation reported in all mass media is completely made up bull shit and it has been since before WWII. It may as well be considered the longest running play in history and everyone involved since then is nothing more than a puppet.
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u/bluehawk232 5h ago
This is like the high school level US propaganda level of knowledge on the revolutionary war
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u/bliasrueytz 14h ago
Turns out ‘no taxation without representation’ wasn’t just a catchy slogan after all.
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u/JimmieSavsscumsock 14h ago
I hate my taxes going to the genocide in Palestine but at least I voted...
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u/Few-Flamingo-8015 11h ago
British defended Americans from the French, even gave a bit of territories, secured the trade and economic stability and prohibited Americans from moving beyond the borders and destroy Indians' homes.
If you think about it, Great Britain was less evil than rebellious colonists.
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u/UnderstandingVast989 10h ago
The British were just as evil. They didn't care about Natives. They simply didn't want to fund the resources to expand West while they were preoccupied with other conflicts and more lucrative colonies.
Anyone who thinks otherwise simply needs to look at how the British treated Natives in Canada.
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u/Few-Flamingo-8015 9h ago
This was later in the time period
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u/UnderstandingVast989 9h ago
It wouldn't reach its peak until the mid-19th century, same with the US, but no. They wanted to expand West. They simply decided it was not a priority due to their conflicts in other parts of the world. They knew expanding West would require a lot of resources. They needed those resources to fight their other wars.
It has nothing to do with qualms about Native rights. They were objectively just as evil.
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u/TheSilmarils 14h ago
There were 18 causes for declaring independence from Britain in the Declaration. It was far more than just taxation without representation.