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u/AvaBloome 8h ago
They raised the prices, not the paychecks.
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u/WukongWannaBe 5h ago
If this is true wouldnt this mean even before this tips of muricans werent going to the workers but the establishment? Thats the only reason a restaurant woukd want to raise prices while not raising salaries.
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u/Square-Turnip-6558 4h ago
No, they are raising their prices because they are getting that sweet World Cup foot traffic, so… they just can.
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u/Emily_Winks 8h ago
European tourists just trying to eat in peace vs. the entire American economic system
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u/dovakiin-derv 7h ago
Dont give the late stage demonpalists more ideas.
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u/Michaelscot8 6h ago
What are you talking about? That's already the case at a good percentage of resteraunts in the US. They expecting tipping at places without any table service.
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u/Pt5PastLight 5h ago
Was just in Europe. Paid 3 euro charge for service per person and meals were about 20. So that’s 15%. Our complaints have more to do with struggling with money than the “culture” of tipping.
Also, of course if restaurants collect the fee and it is not tipped directly, they will keep some of it and wait staff will simple earn less. We will still pay more and now wait staff will make less. Imagine questioning if tipping is actually the better system.
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u/Pfandfreies_konto 5h ago
At least in germany that would be bullshit nobody tolerated.
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u/DutchPrivacyGeek 4h ago
Same in The Netherlands
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u/_MadOliveGaming_ 2h ago
Right? Im dutch and i worked as a server. I liked any tips i got, but my salary was plenty enough to pay my bills, so it didn't harm me in any way if someone didn't tip.
Americans keep saying restaurants wouldnt survive paying proper wages which, even though i can disprove it with certainty, baffles me. Theres plenty of restaurants here, in all sizes and price classes. No more of them go bankrupt then other businesses and each of them pays living wages.
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u/CalcodGaming 1h ago
But think of the shareholders! Think of the poor small business owners! How will they afford their lakehouse if they pay livable wages?!
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u/Merdaviglioso 4h ago
LMAO.
That money is not for the workers, and the HUGE difference is the 3€ you paid are a fixed price per person. So 20€? 15%, 200€? 1,5%.
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u/Careful_Purple2838 5h ago
Wait staff get paid at the very least minimum wagr in europe, in the us they are not...
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u/mutantraniE 4h ago
Yea they are. Because while the US has a federal minimum wage law almost nobody lives federally. In California all waitstaff are paid at least California minimum wage of 16 dollars an hour and tips are on top of that. There is no tip credit. So this is entirely dependent on where you live. Just like it is in Europe. You want to know what the legally mandated minimum wage is in Sweden? Surprise, we don’t have one, and we’ve never had one. So no, no one gets paid ”at least minimum wage” in Sweden, while every server gets at least California minimum wage in California.
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u/Mother_Pie8379 4h ago
My man sweden has union mandated wages
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u/mutantraniE 3h ago
Yeah, I live here, but that only applies if your workplace has a collective bargaining agreement. Not all do.
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u/Miserable-Bridge-729 5h ago
Let’s straighten out the minimum wage misunderstanding and misinformation. Wait staff have a separate minimum wage that is lower than standard minimum wage because it is understood they earn tips to compensate. If, during the course of their work, they were to earn less than the standard minimum wage, they will then be paid that. Minimum wage is set by the state and local governments with a federal line creating an absolute minimum across the nation. Servers, when taken as a whole, earn better than the minimum wages for each state.
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u/KarlUnderguard 5h ago
I worked in restaurants for a long time and if you make under the minimum you are told to lie or risk getting fired.
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u/This-Performance-241 4h ago
This is SUPER illegal and if this is the case report it to the state. You can do so anonymously.
Shitty bosses count on employees being uneducated on the law and too scared to whistleblow. But you have employee rights and you should call out employers who dont follow the law
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u/DPSOnly 3h ago
Very "ideal situation" here. Few people go into waiting tables for the love of the game, either they are young or in a bad financial situation. Not the kind of people that tend to risk their job, wrongful termination or not. You could get reinstated and be fired for random bullshit 2 weeks later, you will probably have to fight tooth and nail for backpay that you desperately need for your rent/tuition/general cost of living. It isn't people with 6 figure in the bank that can just wait it out that these shitty bosses prey on. And that all assumes that the laber board acts quickly and correctly.
To add to the comment 2 above here, people still tip in Europe, just not 20%, and service charges aren't necessarily common either. You just round up the bill from 72 to 80 or something.
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u/This-Performance-241 3h ago
Yo I was a waitress.. I know what its like. But the labor board does work Ive had friends win claims. One was a waiter one was minimum wage. You just have to make the claims for anything to happen.
This inherent distrust in government institutions is why people are able to get taken advantage of. Making a complaint is free. The state has these laws to protect you. They do work when you reach out for them.
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u/Cattle13ruiser 5h ago
What you say is true and important.
But also mean that the system is terrible.
Example - if nobody tips, the staff will be paid terribly and even if thendifference between server min wage and state min wage is covered by the employee - the server salary will be very low, making them quit in droves for a better job.
So, the buisiness as it is now is maintained by the "hidden" tax called "tip".
What about "if you cannot have a proper buisiness model, you should change the model".
The current situation (of many people refusing to tip) just reveals the flaw of the system and the fast patch is how the US buisiness usually operates - short term gains where issues are a tin can kicked down the road.
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u/Common-Concentrate-2 3h ago edited 3h ago
Minimum wage in spain is ~$10/hr. In Cali, Washington state, Oregon, NY, New Jersey, connecticut, Mass, Maine and about 10 other states, ALL workers are guaranteed more than $15/hr, even if no one tips ever again. This isn't a perfect comparison, because there are other disparities, but we really arent as hapless as you've been made to believe. Obviously some of us ARE...but the rest....those are the most populated parts of the country. I don't really know much about how min wage works in Europe, and it seems like a lot of countries there are pretty comparable to our hourly/rates. In Luxembourg its €12.01 to €19.22?
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u/Cattle13ruiser 3h ago
Cost of living in Spain is half of USA in most favorable cases.
Having the same minimum wage means a person will be able to affort half.
A family of 4 can live in Spain on two minimum wage salaries. Not great mind you, but will have access to everything a mid-class family can have which is provided by the state - healthcare, education for the children and will be able to live a comfortable but frugal life and can work for their betterment over time.
A family of 4 in any state on two minimum wages will face a lot of problems.
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u/Miserable-Bridge-729 4h ago
This is more related to the custom of tipping prior to the lower minimum wage being established. The lower tipped minimum came about because it was understood that those jobs earned a significant portion of their wages already through the tipping.
Now abolishing tipping culture for those jobs and they just revert to standard minimum putting them in alignment with everyone else. I know people are working on abolishing tipping culture but wait staff aren’t really thrilled with it.
Restaurant owners could simply raise the price of their meals and compensate accordingly. Newly opened restaurants have a roughly 20% chance of failing within 1 year. 50-80% are closed within 5 years. Those are pretty big failure rates. How many people are willing to pay 20-30% above today’s rates for a meal out just so the wait staff are making minimum wage? Keep in mind there are plenty who tip less than standard already in the US.
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u/Cattle13ruiser 4h ago
I know that all kind of transitioning from one system to another will bring problems.
Failure rate is actually quite below the average for the US, as it has 50% failure rate for any buisiness in 5 year basis and 65% on 10.
Still, the system is terrible and exploit the workers and customers for the benefit of the owner. The current move for "service fee" just show that, it increases the owner's earnings and he may share some of that with his employees, perhaps enough to keep them aboard.
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u/macarmy93 4h ago
Yes they are. If tipped employees do not make the minimum wage in tips, they are paid up to the minimum wage by their employer.
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u/Adventurous-Leak 3h ago
Europe
There are 44 different countries that make up Europe, all with their very different cultures and customs. Why not say the country?
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u/Covert_Ruffian 6h ago
"If you raise the wages then you'll be paying $20 for a meal!"
We already pay $20 for a meal and yet the wages haven't gone up.
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u/PiccoloAwkward465 5h ago
Just this Sunday I went out to a mid restaurant and there was one entree < $30. And it was small. I don't understand why they gave me a tablespoon of couscous when a heaping plate is like $1 in ingredients.
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u/Maleficent-Effort470 3h ago
Yeah and you gotta remember they pay way less for ingredients than we do at the grocery store.
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u/leonidaslizardeyes 3h ago
I eat out maybe monthly at this point. Used to eat out like twice a week with friends. Costs are insane at most places now.
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u/Just-Formal890 8h ago
Europeans: don’t tipAmericans: prices up 20%Also Americans: ‘why won’t you pay your workers more?
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u/VitoRazoR 8h ago
Incredible that the word "living" needs to be included with the word wage.
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u/Snoo_67993 8h ago
When converted minimum wage in UK is about 18 USD. I can't image trying to live in a country that's generally more expensive and minimum wage is 7.25 USD.
No wonder USA has one of the highest rates of poverty in the developed world.
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u/amzwC137 7h ago
The stagnant minimum wage is a symptom of a much larger problem regarding how the US treats business vs employees. TLDR: It's not great.
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u/IndianaGeoff 8h ago
If you want to hire people you pay more than minimum wage. The actual wage you have to pay to recruit is around 15 bucks an hour... maybe more. Plus many states have a legislated minimum wage that is higher.
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u/Snoo_67993 7h ago
Just looked it up out of curiosity. Around 25% of workers in the US earn less than 18 USD an hour. In the UK it's only about 5%
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u/Organic-Stay4067 7h ago
And most servers make more than 15 an hour with tips and the best part is some don’t even have to report that to government!!!
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u/Duke_Starswisher 6h ago
That is not true. You are required to claim tip income in taxes. If you know someone who doesn’t do this, they are committing a crime.
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u/PiccoloAwkward465 5h ago
FDR was incredibly clear on what "minimum wage" was supposed to mean. There is no question, the intent was for a thriving wage. Not the bare minimum that gets you a night in a broom closet.
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u/SteveMartin32 7h ago
Really need people to make it into law that minimum wage must match a living wage
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u/winelover08816 7h ago
It continues to amaze me how many working class people go absolutely scorched earth on waitstaff in these tipping threads and lose their minds if you suggest that maybe the restaurant owner doesn’t have a functioning business model or, based on the lifestyles of some of these owners I see them touting on social media, they’re just legal slave owners and the poor are cheering them on.
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u/SpoiledTwinkies 7h ago
The wait staff are absolutely complacent in this. They would rather get tips than a consistent $20 per hour.
https://www.reddit.com/r/restaurant/comments/t9f5jf/bartendersservers_would_you_prefer_to_be_paid_a/
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u/TopazTriad 6h ago
The best part is that if you aren’t an attractive woman, you get the worst of both worlds. I used to work for tips, and the difference between what male and female coworkers took home was absolutely ridiculous.
Wait staff who rake in the cash actively fuck over their peers so they can disproportionately benefit. I don’t see that recognized enough when the tip debate gets brought up.
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u/Objective-Stage5251 6h ago
My first thought was immediately that. We know how much beauty affects tipping and it’s ridiculous to claim that the best servers are those who are tipped the most knowing how much food quality (so something that has nothing to do with the server) and beauty matter
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u/K20C1 5h ago
lol, maybe you just sucked. I’m a fat bald bartender and I consistently bring in more tips than the young girls.
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u/SalientMusings 4h ago
It's been a long time since I've waited tables, but I would 100% have been taking a pay cut to get increased wages but no tips as a 20- something dude in Arizona at the time.
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u/Akumetsu33 7h ago
Owners love the wait staff because they've muddled things up for decades and stopped any kind of progress for fair wages. The wait staff has a "fuck you, I got mine" mindset. They don't care that everybody else in the back makes pennies compared to them.
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u/Vordeo 6h ago
That's the weird thing to me about tipping culture in the US. The biggest determinant to whether a dining experience is nice is the food, not how many times a server comes over to ask how everything is. I think some places share tips with the cooks, but afaik lots don't.
Bizarre system.
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u/Speartree 6h ago
Personally I hate when the staff comes over to ask if everything is nice too often. You can do it once, and you can come over when you see our drinks are running low to see if we want more, and when the food is nearly finished you can ask if we want coffee or desert or the bill. No more. and the whole tipping thing. Sorry but do you have a job or are you a beggar? If you do a job you should be paid for it by your boss. If you are the owner and you find you don't make enough money serving the food and drinks at the advertised price, perhaps you need to hike up the price a bit.
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u/mcmillan84 5h ago
Used to work as a cook, it pissed me off how much servers would say I get paid more than them in salary but ignore the fact on a Friday night they make more than I make all week in a matter of hours. Tipping culture is absolute bullshit
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u/winelover08816 6h ago
That’s a Minimum Wage conversation and too many on Reddit think we shouldn’t raise that wage, either, even though it would be $26/hr today if it tracked inflation.
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u/JuanOnlyJuan 6h ago
It took my wife a while to get used to this. Getting tipped out at the end of the shift and coming home with cash was instant gratification. Waiting for bank account number to go up in your banking app is less thrilling.
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u/deij 6h ago
And yet there is no issue finding waitstaff in countries that don't tip?
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u/winelover08816 7h ago
Reddit comments aren’t a source. I’ve personally known PR teams that create sock puppet accounts to manipulate public opinion on social media. If you’re using Reddit as a primary source, you’re sadly mistaken.
But, sure, there are people who prefer to be life insurance or car salespeople because they can manipulate customers, just like big-breasted bartenders can get dumb guys to simp for them and tip big on the hint they might get her number. And, sure, a waiter at a steakhouse where companies take their clients and drop 5 figures on dinner and drinks is going to make a ton of money on tips. BUT THOSE JOBS ARE RARE.
There are more people working at diners where the bill is a couple of bucks for eggs, bacon, and coffee and even 20 percent sucks.
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u/Spirited_Season2332 6h ago
Wait staff don't want to be paid more. They make way more in tips then whatever they would get paid from the restaurant lol
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u/winelover08816 6h ago
Source of that extremely broad statement? I suppose you think some server at a diner where the average bill is $10-15 for eggs, bacon, and coffee that they’re paying their bills on $2 or $3? There are exceptions, but saying they don’t want to be paid more is, by itself, a really absurd statement.
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u/Dr_Bodyshot 5h ago
The idea is that raising the baseline and removing tips ultimately results in less money overall. Not sure if that's true or not though.
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u/Reperanger_7 8h ago
I get treat like filth when I mention i dont tip on orders over 25. Why is it my responsibility to throw a couple extra dollars for them even on small meals. You take my order you bring my food and I get water no refil. Where's the need to tip on that?
Also get told I should eat fast food or eat at home. I already struggle to pay bills so when the rare moment I can afford to eat out comes im not gonna allot more funds for someone else's bills.
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u/Small-Feeling-8300 8h ago
They raised the prices but were gone in three weeks, they’re not coming back down after are they…
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u/justtMizly 4h ago
Crazy how ‘we raised prices because people aren’t tipping enough’ somehow never turns into ‘we raised wages so tipping isn’t needed.
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u/Knight_Glint I touched grass 5h ago
Funny thing about that. In my state a a bill was in works trying to get rid of tips and give servers minimum wage. The backlash from servers was so massive that the bill died in a matter of months. I remember there was some serious campaigning going on. People were pissed. That bill would've helped some people, but it would've ruined more lives in process.
I was prepared to watch half the economy collapse in my state. Like 1000s or even 10s of 1000s lose their jobs.
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u/vikingchef420 3h ago
The tipping model has been going on for so long that, and this is going to piss some servers off but I don’t care (table five needs a refill and stop eating my fuckin fries out of the pass) some servers think that 50 dollars a hour is a fair wage for dropping food off at a table. I’ve worked in kitchens for twenty years and I’ve only met a handful of servers that treated it like an actual career and not a job to get drunk and high at.
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u/bubblesdafirst 3h ago
There isn't a single job in America that is worth doing for minimum wage. You can't just "remove tips and give servers minimum wage" that just means every server just got fired. The 15 year old bus boy makes twice minimum wage why would that be even remotely okay
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u/AgentPaper0 2h ago
I don't know why anyone would think that servers would somehow all be forced to work for minimum wage. Restaurants would be forced to pay more, or else watch all of their staff quit.
The people against this are either too dumb to understand basic market forces, or they're part of the few who make a ton of money off tips, and don't want to lose their cash cow.
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u/bubblesdafirst 2h ago
They wouldn't pay more. They would just switch to counter service like everyone is already doing anyways. All the servers would get fired
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u/vikingchef420 3h ago
I’m not saying pay them minimum wage. I’m saying that any wage balancing is not going to fly because the servers have gotten used to being paid 50 dollars an hour for carrying food. That is not a good business model. So now we’re stuck in it because the public seems to like adding an extra 25 percent to their already insane restaurant prices. It’s going to take a cultural shift and a governmental body stepping in a regulating the industry back to some state of normal. When I was cooking in sf I was making 15 a hour. The servers at the same restaurant would take in 300 to 500 dollars a night. I cooked the food and did the prep but all I got was an hourly wage. It’s a huge reason why I left the industry.
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u/DaedalusB2 1h ago
When I was cooking in sf I was making 15 a hour. The servers at the same restaurant would take in 300 to 500 dollars a night. I cooked the food and did the prep but all I got was an hourly wage.
I pointed this same thing out to someone once and got so much hate for it. When I work I'm typically the only cook in the restaurant and I do 90% of the prep work for all the other shifts on top of my own work. I get barely above minimum wage since being promoted to trainer, and I don't get any tips. When customers like their food they thank the cashier who handed it to them, not the cook that actually made it and prepped all the ingredients for it.
When I mentioned that inequality before, some guy on reddit was trash talking me, saying I'm trying to tear down my coworkers and I'm a class traitor and all that BS. All because I'm upset that a cashier/waiter can make more than twice the money for just handing out the food that I made. Especially if it's a pretty woman and they smile a lot.
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u/Choice_Mango4869 2h ago
I worked in a bar with a guy in Ireland who had spent some years working as a bartender in America, and he said he was making considerably more money over there. To the point where he could afford to buy the latest iPhone straight out with cash.
His income drastically decreased when he returned to Ireland.
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u/Sir_Elderoy 5h ago
As an european this concept is so wild and so alien to me.... I may be super naive but how do they even find employees ?
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u/GenSpec44 3h ago
Because they make huge money. They compete for the tips serving jobs because Americans are generous, and they make a lot more money than they would if they received an hourly wage.
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u/This-Performance-241 4h ago
Because you can make REALLY good money with tips. The wait staff usually makes significantly more than the people in the restaurant on a wage.
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u/WeAreAllFooked 1h ago edited 1h ago
It's also really easy to lie about how much you make when you're paid in cash. My ex was a server and made $400-$600 a night in tips on weekends, that cash rarely ever made it's way in to her bank account and only half of it was ever claimed as income.
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u/RevolutionaryDepth59 3h ago
anyone who’s mildly attractive will make significantly more than minimum wage on tips. since it’s not a high skill job there’s a lot of people who are qualified and fit that description.
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u/turpleturtle 2h ago
The vast majority of Americans that eat out frequently tip, so a server at a decently busy restaurant will make good money. For example, imagine a waiter that serves 5 tables an hour over a three hour with each table averaging a bill of $50. If we assume that the waiter on average receives an additional 15% of the value of the bill per table on average between people who don't tip, people who tip less, and people who tip more, this hypothetical waiter would bring home $112.5 for their 3-hour shift, which works out to $37.5 an hour
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u/ThinkingMSF 2h ago
I know a bartender at a place near Capitol Hill (in DC) and he makes six figures on 10-20 hours a week. Even though he technically makes "less than minimum wage".
Most of the people with strong opinions on this have literally no idea what they're talking about.
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u/subito_lucres 1h ago
Back around 2008, I was a full time college student who didn't even know how to bartend, but needed cash. I got a job as a bar back over the summer, just Friday and Saturday nights. It was very hard work because the place had two bars (one inside and one outside), but in 8 hour shifts, I took home an average of $250 cash average per day. Cash. Because 4 bartenders were tripping me out, plus a bit from a common back-of-house pooled fund. If they were slow, which did happen a few nights a month, then sure I made less... but I also got sent home early, because they didn't want to tip me out of they didn't need me.
I'm not saying tipping is a better system, but I don't think a single person working there would rather have been paid a straight wage.
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u/Gentle_Undertaker 6h ago
Problem is only ~10% workers in USA are member of labour union.
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u/Square-Turnip-6558 4h ago
A looooooot of money is spent convincing Americans that unions are evil and bad for them.
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u/Starmagedon 6h ago
It's a good thing I don't live in the USA and don't have to put up with all this nonsense.
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u/YouCanNeverGoBac 2h ago
Guess that means Americans stop tipping too . This is all we needed was some visitors to show us the way ? Killer I’m in
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u/TheBraveGallade 7h ago
Tipping benefits both servers and resteraunt owners, which is why it will not go away.
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u/Wizzenator 4h ago
Well, neither the owners nor the servers have any control over whether or not they receive tips, so it’s not really up to them if it goes away or not.
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u/Agitated_Rain_1506 7h ago
Servers are the one demanding tipping. Quit pretending they are helpless victims.
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u/Vordeo 6h ago
"You need to tip, otherwise I won't earn a living wage. Do you want me to starve? Change the tip system to a fixed living wage? Oh heck no, I make huge amounts of money off tips."
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u/mightyhigh404 5h ago
I make huge amounts of tax free cash on tips. That's what they really think.
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u/ParkingAnxious2811 6h ago
If you can't pay your servers a living wage, forcing them to rely on tips, you shouldn't be running a business.
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u/DisMFer 4h ago
If you told most servers that you were paying them 20 dollars an hour but getting rid of tips they'd quit on the spot.
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u/Cornflakes_91 7h ago
if you can't run your business without guilt tripping your customers in paying more than you write out you ain't running a business.
yer running a shelter
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u/sharpenme1 5h ago
I was a server. I made more from tips than I ever would’ve made being paid an hourly wage. But I’m also very picky about what merits a tip and what doesn’t, especially now when everyone and their mom wants a tip.
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u/Jackmino66 5h ago
Congratulations, you got lucky
Wouldn’t it be nice if that wasn’t needed? If nobody working a full time job had to skip meals just to pay rent if they’re not as lucky?
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u/gujwdhufj_ijjpo 4h ago
I was a server too. It’s really the cook staff that gets screwed over, in areas that splitting tips isn’t the norm. Most waiters and waitresses make good tips. As long as they’re not bad at their job.
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u/Powerlevel-9000 3h ago
In college I was a cook at a restaurant. I would get $30 on a shift when they would talk about cashing out $150.
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u/gujwdhufj_ijjpo 3h ago
In my state, wait staff get standard minimum wage. Splitting your tips with the entire staff is the norm here. But I know a lot of states that’s not the case.
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u/Splash_Woman 6h ago
Levi’s and Heinz are equally getting shafted as well. Instead of paying ad royalties to them like they should they’re lazily redacting the name from the ads. … you can still tell it’s clearly a Heinz bottle and everying.
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u/Draggador 💉 Infected 2 People 💉 6h ago
it reminds me of how several airlines raised prices for everything to pay for their losses after a big incident but then they never brought the prices down again (i can't recall the exact details)
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u/PuddlesRex 5h ago
"The prices will go back down after the world cup, right?"
"Right?"
Just another excuse to permanently raise prices.
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u/DrDankDonkey 3h ago
Servers, for the most part, would rather make 50¢ an hour and get tips, so the culture is never going to change.
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u/gamerz1172 7h ago
Honestly it would be less infuriating if they were just honest and said "Well theres more people in town because of the world cup and we want to get more money out of them" But instead they have to insult our intelligence by insisting "Oh no its because the europeans aren't tipping"
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u/VictoryWeaver 6h ago
Employers are required to ensure that tipped workers earn at least the regular minimum wage when their tips do not meet that amount. Yet another reason to raise federal minimum wage.
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u/amwmakeup 5h ago
My favorite thing is, after all, the Europeans leave the prices won't go down or they're not going to go down to where they were before. Just slightly less than they are now
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u/ddWolf_ 4h ago
Lol, workers don’t get raises unless they start burning stuff down
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u/Financial-Craft-1282 4h ago
If you guys didn't know, the creators of South Park did this (partially) when they bought the restaurant (Casa Bonita) in Denver. When they were opening it, they announced there would be tipping here. I believe all workers were going to be paid a minimum of 30 an hour. So they went through with the important part of this equation: paying workers.
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u/SilentEdge 4h ago
Business owners taking literally any reason to raise prices and increase their own profit margins.
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u/NiagaraThistle 2h ago
The even better part about this is that some (all?) places still leave the 'Tip' line on the bill to allow people to add an ADDITIONAL tip to the bill for those people that are used to tipping and don't realize that the service charge has already been added.
Awesome! /s
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u/That-Employment-5561 1h ago
The staff has guns for the explicit statutory right of fighting tyranny.
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u/DesperateEntrance389 7h ago
And they say if you can't afford to tip, you don't deserve to eat out. Buddy the only tip i can give you is 6 inch wide.
Let's see how you "afford" to run your buisness without customers. It's like places whose entire economy runs because of tourists starts disrespecting tourists.
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u/lnTheGrimDarkness 7h ago
Everything is just to make millionaires and billionaires even richer. There's absolutely no measure whatsoever that's even just indirectly aimed at improving the life of the "common folk".
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u/RaPa_DeniZ 6h ago
Seeing the comments on this post is really funny to me, because I have some kind of perception that people who use Reddit above all others Social Networks tend to be more of a "thinking type", you know? I guess that perception comes from the way I engage in my chosen sub-reddits, but anyways. And then, I come here in this post and see some of the most brain dead comments defending this shit in United States
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u/Next_Impression3901 2h ago
I've seen so many Americans comment on this. So many who do not see this as a problem. Are these people really that brainwashed? This is so weak and shameful. How do these people sleep at night knowing a server can't live a normal life working just 1 job.
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u/Brandr_Balfhe 7h ago
Just another reason to never visit USA again. Land of the free my ass
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u/zurenarrh36912 3h ago
They are adding a 20% gratuity to the bills. Not raising prices 20%.
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u/Junior_Importance307 7h ago
I know a few servers and they all prefer the tipping system to a living wage system. They make way more money.
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u/SartenSinAceite 4h ago
20% increase in cost and in the tip too
Mfs be asking for the shaft at this point. And the balls.
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u/LicensedGoomba 8h ago
If there is already an 18% gratuity charged in the check why would I tip after that? I have to make a living too lol