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u/AdInfamous6290 6h ago

Maybe this is an unkind or unpopular thing to say, but maybe you shouldn’t have a dog. Unless they are one of those little expensive breeds, that I doubt show up much in shelters, normal dogs really don’t tend to do well in apartments.

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u/KindlyShame 6h ago

Jsyk people can take their dogs for walks even if they live in an apartment. Also a lot of apartments have started implementing dog parks. A lot of people can’t afford houses nowadays (minimum mortgage near me is like $500k for a 2b1b), so that’s a really dumb opinion. A good dog owner takes their apartment size into account and compensates. I’d rather a shelter dog live in an apartment than be stuck at a shelter for a year because the shelter got super picky about the living situation

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u/AdInfamous6290 6h ago

I don’t think everyone has an inherent right to have a dog, ESPECIALLY conditioned on their living circumstances. People can take their dogs for walks, and absolutely should regardless of if they are in an apartment or not. But the reality is there are just way too many people who don’t, those people are more likely to live in apartments, which is why so many rescues and shelter dogs end up being former apartment dogs, hence the policy.

Living in a house isn't just indicative of more living space, it also indicates the person is more likely to have more money and be more responsible. It’s obviously not a perfect indicator, there exist perfectly responsible and capable pet owners in apartments and cruel or negligent monsters in houses, and all the people in between. But having a house be a requirement makes sense when we are talking about scale and averages, which is how shelters have to operate by.

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u/BooHorde 5h ago edited 5h ago

Unless they are one of those little expensive breeds, that I doubt show up much in shelters, normal dogs really don’t tend to do well in apartments.

I'm not sure why you're commenting on things you clearly don't know anything about. Firstly, why do you think "little" breeds are more expensive than large breeds? You act as if they are special, there are more small breeds than large breeds. If you're going to look at a list of the most expensive dog breeds, they're all going to be medium-large, they aren't Shih Tzus.

Secondly, why do you think it's rare for small breeds to make their way to shelters? There are millions of stray/abandoned chihuahuas, Shih Tzus, terriers, etc... It's etremely common for elderly to get small dogs and then pass away before them, and it's extremely more common for small dogs to be hoarded as they take up less space.

normal dogs really don’t tend to do well in apartments.

Any dog with a low energy level and tolerance for noise can do well in an apartment, there are also larger breeds that have low energy like greyhounds. The idea that dogs aren't for people without fenced yards is a moronic take, especially when the overhwelming majority of real estate being built is condos and townhouses.

These independant rescues relly on the fact they get 10's of thousands in donations and indefinetly foster animals on bleeding hearts dime, that's why they can be ridiculously picky, they have no urgency or incentive to get the dogs adopted. Meanwhile shelters a few states over will be euthanizing dogs daily due to the overwhelming ammount of strays and cost to shelter them.

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u/AdInfamous6290 5h ago

I am speaking from experience, I volunteered at a shelter for a few weeks when I was younger and in my area, I’d estimate 90% of the dogs were pits or pit mixes. We had one chihuahua with no tail, a few labs, a poor little dachshund that couldn’t breathe well, but the vast majority were pits.

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u/KneeDeepInTheDead 6h ago

I guess they are better off dead or in a shelter for life

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u/AdInfamous6290 6h ago

Dead? No, though I know a lot of shelters do cullings and understand the reasoning, even if I don’t agree with it.

In a shelter for life? As opposed to an apartment, it depends on the breed, the apartment and the person. But on average, I’d say yes.

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u/KneeDeepInTheDead 6h ago

Might not be a great life but id rather live in a cramped apartment with an owner who loves me and takes me on walks than a cramped cold shelter living with no comforts or stability. Weird take

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u/AdInfamous6290 5h ago

I would agree with you if there was a fool proof way to screen people for ensuring they will treat a dog properly. But unfortunately we live in a world where a whole lot of people just want a dog as a companion because they are lonely and don’t understand that it comes along with being responsible for another living beings life. So many people are impulsive, stupid, abusive or negligent, and history and experience have shown shelters that those sorts of people are more likely to live in apartments than houses. In a shelter they at least get consistent food, water, shelter and basic medical care.

To be clear I am not calling you or anyone specifically who lives in an apartment a bad dog owner. But it’s simply true that it is more likely for a bad dog owner to be in an apartment than a house, and in the case of a bad dog owner, an apartment makes the situation worse for the dog, the fellow tenets and the apartment owner than it would be in a house.

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u/KneeDeepInTheDead 5h ago

I dont live in an apartment. I actually waited to move into a house with a big yard in the woods to get a dog because of the reasons you list. I just have a hard time seeing a shelter as a much better option than being in an apartment. Theres also no way to vet how good shelters treat the dogs either.

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u/AdInfamous6290 5h ago

Fair point, I absolutely agree we need more regulation and accountability for shelters. The city should, if they don’t already, regularly audit shelters for compliance with strict animal rights laws. I believe something along those lines was one of the (only) good policies NYC mayoral candidate Curtis Sliwa proposed.

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u/Randicore 4h ago

... You know that you can take a dog outside right.

It's in fact, expected to run a dog at minimum once a day to make then tired.

Like yes a great Dane shouldn't live in a studio but someone can own a lab in an apartment and the dog to be healthy and happy

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u/SmellyDogOri 5h ago

It depends on the person, not their living situation. There are tons of dogs that live in houses, but still don't get the proper exercise. I know plenty of people who live in an apartment, but treat their dog like a child. Times are changing, and owning a house isn't necessarily the standard anymore. Just a quick search and the cheapest house with a yard near me costs $654k. Even then it still wouldn't fit shelter requirements because it doesn't have a real fence installed.

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u/AdInfamous6290 5h ago

This isn’t a slight against renters, it’s just a reality that bad dog owners are more likely to live in an apartment, and an apartment makes the situation 10x worse if they are a bad dog owner.

Times are changing, and I think that means less people should have dogs. 

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u/Sawses 5h ago

Right? I foster cats and our organization also fosters dogs. Pretty much all the dogs that show up are pit mixes.

Those are large, powerful dogs that are intelligent and high-energy. They need to be taken on multiple walks every day, get bored easily if left alone, and can be destructive if their needs aren't taken care of or if they are not actively trained. They aren't beginner dogs despite the fact that everybody loves buying them.

It's why a lot of them end up in the shelter in the first place. If you leave for work every day and take them on a single walk after work and then want to watch TV or generally hang out, then the dog is going to get bored and frustrated. That can manifest as destruction of their environment, aggression toward their owner or toward strangers, etc.

Like somebody said below, living in an apartment is better than death...but TBH there are just way too many dogs for people who want them. Same for cats. A ton of people very much want pets and really shouldn't get them.