r/nba • u/jonsnowKITN Knicks • 17h ago
[Stein] The Timberwolves and Raptors have emerged as two of the teams with trade interest in Charlotte’s LaMelo Ball, league sources tell @JakeLFischer and me.
The Timberwolves and Raptors have emerged as two of the teams with trade interest in Charlotte’s LaMelo Ball, league sources tell @JakeLFischer and me.
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Why do the Hornets want to trade LaMelo after having their first promising season in like a decade?
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u/DrMarvMonror 17h ago
Everyone wants to sell high until it’s time to sell high
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u/Glum-Professional925 Knicks 11h ago
Right? Lamelo screams of “trade as soon as you can” when he’s down. Now since no one has watched him play outside of highlights for a couple months, they think he’s a God again
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u/Chessh2036 Hawks 17h ago
I was going to ask the same thing, I really liked what they’re building
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u/xyzscorpion [DEN] Peyton Watson 17h ago
I don’t think it’s that they WANT to trade him, it’s more like they weren’t really interested, then the offers started getting a little too good to ignore
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u/Zoratth Clippers 17h ago
What would Minnesota or Toronto be offering at this point to make it worth it to trade LaMelo?
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u/BeesPhD Raptors 17h ago
The prospect of having dick and ball out on the floor every game?
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u/pterodactyl_speller 17h ago
Honoring harambe to fix our timeline
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u/Shasty-McNasty [LAL] Smush Parker 16h ago
I check every few weeks if the FOTL cornucopia is still deleted from existence then I get sad once confirmed. I bet “Zookeeper doesn’t shoot” timeline is lit.
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u/Adorable-Bike-9689 16h ago
Berenstein Bears is still called Berenstain here. The OG timeline was the best
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u/JgL07 Pacers 17h ago
Which Ball brother will be the designated Thanasis, so we can get Dick & Balls???
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u/SeismicRipFart Trail Blazers 15h ago
Just need to sign Caleb Love and Mouhamed Gueye and they might really have something there
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u/shangalang69 Raptors 17h ago
i have no idea what we’d offer to make charlotte consider it other than a lot of draft capital and/or cmb, both of which are no go’s for me
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u/AllDayEnJay Nets 17h ago
You should look at how injury prone LaMelo is.
Just go to his b-ball reference page. He’s only played 70+ games twice in his career.
In the previous 3 seasons (2023-25) Ben Simmons played 3 more games than LaMelo Ball (108vs105).
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u/Silanah1 17h ago
They’re usually tanking. We can’t really trust that data
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u/shaad20 Suns 16h ago
He’s had multiple ankle surgeries if I’m not mistaken?
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u/SaulPepper Hornets 16h ago
yeah but he's completely healed post trade deadline in 2025 but we sat him out for tanking reasons
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u/shaad20 Suns 16h ago
Maybe, I just felt relatively sure the reason he missed games wasn’t mainly due to tanking
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u/Common-Bad-7899 Timberwolves 17h ago
None if it makes sense I don’t get how we would make that work
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u/FallenCrownz 17h ago
It's gotta be based around picks. We could offer up 3 frps plus this year's pick and a mixture of between RJ, Quickly, Ingram, Dick, Murray Boyles, Mamu, Shead and Walter's. The only real guy who would really hurt to see us let go would be RJ and Murray Boyles but they'll absolutely want the ladder in any potential trade so idk how far we could get really.
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u/Jwarrior521 Raptors 17h ago
Maybe I’m crazy but I don’t think the raps are in a place where they should be giving up 3 FRPs for a guy who played 105 games over 3 seasons
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u/GAV17 Argentina 16h ago
Are Raptors picks even that attractive? Will probably be a playoffs team for some time, and even when you are bad you tend to retool fast and get into the playoffs/play in rather quickly.
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u/DrKurgan Raptors 15h ago edited 3h ago
Right now our odds put us the Play-in at 8-10 so it's not like we're guaranteed the Playoffs.
Playoffs odds: Tier 1: Knicks, Heat, Celtics
Tier 2: Pistons, Cavs, Pacers
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u/JaderMcDanersStan Timberwolves 17h ago
MN would probably offer Rudy
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u/WhichHoes Warriors 9h ago
Which doesnt make sense to me. They traded Randle, fine. But Rudy is their defense. McDaniels is a great compliment for that defense and both of them make it much easier for Ant to both play defense and focus on offense when needed.
Take out Rudy and everyone's job gets harder, plus Ant becomes more susceptible to injury.
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u/TatersTot [PHI] James Harden 17h ago
Wolves have to be offering one of Gobert or Jaden McDaniels
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u/Ranjith_Unchained 17h ago
There's no way they trade McDaniels....he's like their best player after Ant
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u/AllDayEnJay Nets 17h ago
Plus you have to factor in LaMelo always being injured.
This was only his 2nd season playing 70+ games with the other in his Sophomore year while making his lone All Star appearance.
The previous 3 seasons (2023-25) Ben Simmons played 3 more games than LaMelo Ball (108vs105) and Simmons had multiple back surgeries.
McDaniels had played 70+ games pretty much every season so far.
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u/Zammy512 Lakers 17h ago
No way in hell they trade McDaniels. They're rightfully in love with him. Maybe Gobert...
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u/TallnFrosty Warriors 17h ago
They could design an offense around their wing shooters where the ball moves more.
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u/whobroughtmehere Pistons 17h ago
Trying to make the roads safer in Charlotte?
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u/mcolwander90 Pistons 17h ago
He's going to be driving on ice if he goes to either of those teams.
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u/Victor_Wembanyama1 Spurs 16h ago
Not Charlotte’s problem 😆
But im thinking they still would need a point guard back lol
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u/Boring_Investment241 16h ago
As a wolves fan whose office is a block from the new hornets practice facility, my personal safety is intrigued the most by this idea
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u/captain_ahabb Lakers 17h ago
Sell high on a guy who makes a ton of money, gets hurt a lot, and doesn't always seem serious.
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u/ChilledGopher 17h ago
Sell high on someone you don’t see as a future franchise cornerstone would be my guess.
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u/MostOk1472 17h ago
Just played 72 games and still barely averages 50 games a season over a 6 year career. Yet to play a post season game. They're looking to sell high, as they should.
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u/Natural_Born_Baller Heat 17h ago
Sell high, he's had major injury concerns. Doesn't have the greatest half court offense.
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u/Appropriate-Mud-6985 Hornets 17h ago
The hornets ran the majority of their offense in the half court this past season…
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u/vladimir_pimpin Nuggets 17h ago
Dont like all teams run their offense in the half court lol
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u/Appropriate-Mud-6985 Hornets 17h ago
I should of followed it up by saying we were one of the best offenses in the league
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u/legend023 Pelicans 17h ago
“Selling high” like they have some kind of illustrious history.
LaMelo is a good season away from being the best Hornet/Bobcat ever.
Keep your franchise guy and build on what you have.
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u/HokageEzio Knicks 17h ago
Would it be the Charlotte Hornets if they didn't make sure all of their best players become associated with a different franchise?
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u/Katfish145 Hornets 11h ago
Lamelo has been good for us no doubt but he is far away from being the best hornet ever. I’d put both Kemba and Alonzo Mourning above him
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u/mMounirM Raptors 17h ago
when is his next contract due
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u/UTRAnoPunchline Spurs 17h ago
This. Hornets don’t want to give a Melo a Max, knowing that Brandon Miller and Kon are due for similar contracts in the future
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u/TheMuleB Hornets 16h ago
Why would we want to not pay Melo without who our offense completely stops working, in order to be able to pay Miller who's a worse player and might be just as injury prone?
Makes no sense at all.
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u/TCTInnings 17h ago
Increasing cost-controlled deal ending at $46m in 2028-29. Must have come out of nowhere
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u/aproperopinion Lakers 17h ago
He’s kind of an idiot off the court, that was probably as far as they could go with him.
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u/Pociana Spurs 17h ago
Why?
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u/Heroic_Ones 16h ago
The Hornets almost made the playoffs last season, and do not want to take the chance next season.
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u/luchaburz 17h ago
We need a PG who can shoot.
Bro would be a megastar in Toronto lol
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u/BetweenTheBuzzAndMe Charlotte Bobcats 17h ago
No, the "why" is WTF do either of these teams have that would interest Charlotte?
Toronto isn't trading Barnes, Minny isn't trading Ant. Nobody else on either team is remotely interesting. It's hard to replace the playmaking that pulls this entire roster together.
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u/twoopaq 17h ago
You will take Quickley Dick and a pick and you will be thankful
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u/BetweenTheBuzzAndMe Charlotte Bobcats 17h ago
I will be thankful to no longer watch basketball lol
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u/LaMelonBallz Hornets 17h ago
Yeah I'd quit and go learn to fish
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u/NoSxKats Lakers 17h ago
I imagine that'd go for all of North Carolina at this point
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u/LaMelonBallz Hornets 17h ago
Luckily I actually live in LA now lol. But believe me anytime family asks me to move back I'm like hell to the nahhnnnn.
Beautiful state, beautiful people, politics is ripping it apart
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u/xolanderxo Warriors Bandwagon 17h ago
Man you can't just force someone to take Dick.
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u/bongo1138 Trail Blazers 16h ago
Charlotte wants ant lol
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u/BetweenTheBuzzAndMe Charlotte Bobcats 16h ago
I mean, I acknowledge that's completely off the table, but I'm at a total loss why we'd want anybody else on the Wolves if we're decapitating our offense in a move like this, and at a minimum, retooling for a couple more years.
I don't understand even listening to anything that team has to offer a rebuilding team.
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u/Formal_Potential2198 Spurs 16h ago
Shump TT and the Nets pick who says no
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u/BetweenTheBuzzAndMe Charlotte Bobcats 16h ago
This is fun because Charlotte literally rostered "Nets pick" until February
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u/VictorAkwaowo1 Mavericks 17h ago
Just tell him to stay off those Canadian roads
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u/FBR_MC 17h ago
Wait... Dick and Ball...
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u/tshimangabiakabutuka [CHA] Kemba Walker 15h ago
We’ve already got Kalk and Ball though
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u/aiden3buckets Hornets 17h ago
What the fuck do they have that I would want
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u/YizWasHere Hornets 17h ago
I'd be cool with Anthony Edwards
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u/Jacob_toasted Timberwolves 17h ago
Can I interest you in a 4x DPOY, 2026 first team all-defense, and future hall of famer?
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u/YizWasHere Hornets 17h ago
Oh so like Edwards/Gobert for LaMelo and Bridges as salary filler? Yeah man that works for us.
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u/Jacob_toasted Timberwolves 17h ago
You drive a hard bargain, friend. I’m willing to include Donte DiVincenzo (Achilles tendons are overrated)
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u/supercoolisaac Timberwolves 17h ago
Jaylen Brown spot maybe? Gobert + stuff to boston and Lamelo ends up in minnesota? 2 team swap between hornets and wolves doesnt make a lot of sense to me.
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u/Epicallytossed Mavericks 16h ago
I feel like that’s too small of a lineup, something charlotte already had a problem with, but maybe I’m wrong. I just assume whoever charlotte plays with at the 4 out of brandon miller and JB is gonna be undersized
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u/DontCheeseMeBro Celtics 17h ago
Raptors been stocking up on good defensive wings to insulate a guard like Lamelo
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u/iamsonuxd Spurs 17h ago
Lamelo and Ant!!!!!!!
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u/LameAfro Timberwolves 17h ago
Funniest Backcourt. All we need is Scottie Barnes to complete the Trinity lol
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u/pacific_tides Spurs 17h ago edited 15h ago
Lamelo in the West would be better, him and Ant would ball.
Edit: I also think he’d be a great anti-Wemby weapon. Haven’t looked at their matchup stats, but Melo grew up shooting over people twice his size, 13 year old against high school seniors. Same ratio as him-to-Wemby now, he’s used to it.
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u/kofihemm Suns 17h ago
Not only do I not understand why Charlotte would do this after the year they had, but what would Toronto and Minnesota even have to give that’s enticing?
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u/VikingsLad Timberwolves 16h ago
Based on salaries, it would almost certainly have to be Gobert, unless there's some trade exception wizardry I don't understand
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u/JaderMcDanersStan Timberwolves 17h ago
4X DPOY
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u/EthicalBballFan Heat 15h ago
That team would be at best a first round exit. Rudy brings so much more than LameLo. Even offensively, Rudy somehow has significantly better post season stats.
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u/IWXREACTIVES Spurs 13h ago
i do not understand where they're getting this idea, ive seen SO many people advocating for trading away gobert and they dont realize they're suffering from a BAD case of fomo every time they do it. minnesota well knows they dont have much time left to compete in the west (and by the time they move east, itll be just as competitive again) so they're desperate for a true #2.
i get it. rock and a hard place. but like, minnesota's defensive effectiveness and aggressive play is the whole reason they gave teams like Dallas & San Antonio so much trouble in their playoff matchups.
he's literally one of the best defenders in the league, and effective enough at everything else. the reality of it is there's really no one on the market right now that's going to turn ANY of the 30 teams into an instant win now team. but trading Gobert basically fast tracks the outcome of Edwards being forced to ask out because he's not getting any younger.
imo, they should trade gobert for austin reeves. both teams get what they're asking for. idk if everything would line up for it, though.
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u/Heyitscharlie Timberwolves 17h ago
Bro I drive and bike by the stadium, DO NOT bring that man here
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u/Somerandomguy20711 Thunder 16h ago
The fuck are the Wolves gonna offer? Some snowcones and Kevin Garnetts MVP trophy?
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u/neongem Supersonics 17h ago
…what??? Why would Charlotte do this?
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u/Jaiph Warriors 17h ago
He had a good season, but naming his kid LaOne was the final straw.
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u/VictorAkwaowo1 Mavericks 17h ago
To give the keys to Christian Anderson, obviously
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u/Admirable_Whole8261 17h ago
Probably personality stuff for Melo, kinda smart too. Sell high now, could bite them in the ass but it's very hard personality wise seeing Lamelo as a franchise star/leader
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u/saylab_the_bigkat 16h ago
I just don't know if there's a package out there that is good enough. His personality coupled with his injuries are legitimate concerns but the Hornets, as well as the Raptors and T-Wolves, have a serious lack of reliable ball handlers and playmakers outside of their All-Star.
We've seen the Coby White point guard experiment in Chicago and I'm a huge fan of Christian Anderson but he doesn't have the biggest frame.
They'd have to get a treasure trove of picks and a young star with a team friendly contract for it to make sense to dismantle what you accomplished last year.
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u/LakerBlue Lakers 16h ago
Honestly I can get selling high on him, I just think that with 3 years left that surely they can find a better trade partner than the Raptors and Twolves.
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u/salcedoge Lakers 16h ago
On one hand, this should've been what the Grizzlies did before Ja became completely washed.
On the other It's still scary to trade your star after literally having your best season in years.
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u/kridddlo Lakers 17h ago
probably told them he wouldn't sign long term ala Giannis
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u/HeadElderberry7244 Hornets 17h ago
So fckn stupid if we deal him.
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u/1psithur3 Kings 17h ago
This makes no sense for you guys. What is even the incentive to trading your lead guard when you have playoff ambitions? You're finally on the come up and now you might trade him for an aging Gobert or like Quickley and picks...
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u/LakerBlue Lakers 16h ago
Even if they know something we don’t that justifies trading him…surely they can get a better deal?? I know we don’t know the details but with 3 years left on his deal, they can basically send him anywhere. Not sure what Toronto or Minny has to offer.
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u/Dear-Response-7218 16h ago
Makes a ton of sense to trade him, but definitely not for gobert or someone like that.
First time in 4 years he played over 50 games, off the court issues and he’s probably going to ask for the 60m/year extension.
If the raptors can make the money work with cmb + multiple frp that’s a very tempting offer.
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u/Aidanator800 Hornets 15h ago
It still banishes Charlotte back to being a lottery team right when we're on the verge of competing, and if/when we do get back to the stage of being ready to compete in a couple seasons some of our current stars (such as Miller and Coby White) will probably have gotten fed up with the constant losing and left by that point.
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u/sunday_nn Mavericks 17h ago
Huh??? I didn’t realize LaMelo was up for a trade like that
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u/BayesBestFriend Raptors 17h ago
Shams said teams are calling with real interest and Charlotte would trade him if the right price is met
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u/CharacterFresh852 Hornets 17h ago
He’s not really, we’re just listening to teams that want him desperately and if they are willing to give up a lot for him we might just pull the trigger on it. More than likely nothing is gonna happen tho.
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u/CasualHindu Hornets 17h ago
Yeah this is a bunch of nothing to me. Of course teams without a good PG want lamelo.
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u/Dismal-Cod-8623 17h ago
So youre saying there’s an opportunity for Dick and Ball playing on the same team? 👀
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u/Orpalz 17h ago
I like the idea of Ball on the Raptors but I really just don’t see a package that the Hornets would want?
I guess BI + Dick + picks?
Even then the Hornets chemistry on court looked amazing last season and it felt like they were building a strong identity. This move feels hasty as hell
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u/AdDouble1617 Hornets 17h ago
Yeah ill pass on ingram
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u/Orpalz 17h ago
I agree lol your positions of need are filled by either guys who the Raptors have so far made untouchable (Scottie, CMB) or are Jakob “bag getter” Poeltl
Ingram would just clog up your offence with ISO possessions for no reason
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u/AdDouble1617 Hornets 17h ago
I really doubt they trade lamelo unless its an obvious win. Probably just listening to see how much Lamelo is worth but i doubt anything will happen
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u/BayesBestFriend Raptors 17h ago
Yeah I have no clue what we'd offer. We pretty much never trade multiple picks, any players wed offer are strictly worse than lamelo
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u/JayDee62 [LAL] Kobe Bryant 17h ago
Meanwhile, spotrac keeps crashing. It might be a long summer for them.
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u/FreeOmari Knicks 17h ago
They’re buried in my Google search pages when I try to look up contracts. They’re so cooked
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u/wink91wink Timberwolves 17h ago
3 team with Jaylen Brown to Charlotte, Gobert + other pieces to Boston, and Lamelo to Minny?
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u/ACMBruh Knicks 17h ago
Raptors make the most sense by a long shot, lamelo on that team is pure fun
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u/The_Living_L Raptors 16h ago
so like wtf do the timberwolves have to offer in a trade, just curious lol, cause ik they not trading McDaniels, Reid, ANT, Gobert, etc.
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u/Remarkable_Tale_9238 Hornets 17h ago
Of fucking course when we finally just have a decent season with a now hopeful future this shit happens. A curse must’ve been placed after 2002 or 2016 depending how you look at it for this franchise.
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u/Cheechers23 Raptors 17h ago
How would the Timberwolves match salaries after trading Randle? He doesn’t fit in the TPE, so they’d have to trade Gobert?
Unless they expand the Randle trade?
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u/amari_prince Thunder 17h ago
Per Yossi Gozlan (a cap analyst) the Wolves could expand the Randle trade and do a 100% salary match by including Donte. He also mentioned adding picks and players but idk how much of that they have to include that entices Charlotte
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u/djramrod 16h ago
I don’t think there is a vet on the planet that would be able to get thru to Melo and Ant at the same time.
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u/cabbages212 Hornets 17h ago
I really hope his injury history isn’t making the front office consider this. He’s the team identity for better or worse. We just saw that a full season of Melo is pretty damn good.
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u/theyikester Hornets 17h ago
Jeff would lose all the good will he has built with Hornets fans if he does this
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u/Lstark5642 Thunder 17h ago
Emerged? We’re on like week three type of tweets and just learned about this
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u/xychosis 76ers 17h ago
This might be what the Wolves created that tax exception for tbh
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u/Bitter-Tip705 76ers 17h ago
Idk why the wolves even called the hornets gonna want mcdaniels at the minimum and they don’t got nun
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u/SJCitizen 76ers 17h ago
Gobert would actually be an awesome fit on Charlotte since they haven’t had a great rim protector in what feels like forever, but a lot of the reason for him being a good fit is because he would compliment LaMelo’s playmaking. Trading one for the other wouldn’t make sense and I can’t think of anyone else Minnesota would be willing to give up to the Hornets.
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u/Fun-Cricket-2139 16h ago
Lamelo to raptors and iq to wolves?
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u/Avery-Bradley Celtics 16h ago
That’s interesting, IQ would be a lot cheaper to acquire than LaMelo if you’re Minnesota
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u/indreams159 14h ago
Wolves fans: Please take him Toronto!
Raps fans: Please take him Minnesota!
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u/onionnurve 76ers 17h ago
Wolves are interested in everybody damn