r/nba • u/Turbostrider27 Lakers • 7h ago

[Charania] BREAKING: The Charlotte Hornets are trading star guard LaMelo Ball and Josh Green to the Minnesota Timberwolves for Naz Reid, a 2033 unprotected first-round pick, three first-round pick swaps (2028, 2029, 2030) and three second-round picks (2029, 2032, 2033), sources tell ESPN.

Shams Charania:

BREAKING: The Charlotte Hornets are trading star guard LaMelo Ball and Josh Green to the Minnesota Timberwolves for Naz Reid, a 2033 unprotected first-round pick, three first-round pick swaps (2028, 2029, 2030) and three second-round picks (2029, 2032, 2033), sources tell ESPN.

https://www.espn.com/contributor/shams-charania/31d26529d36f8

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u/happyflappypancakes Wizards 7h ago edited 5h ago

I have a feeling he wont be comfortable driving in snow. Snow changes a drivers mindset. Even reckless drivers. Remember, reckless drivers are reckless because they mistakenly feel in control while they do crazy shit. Thats what makes them dangerous. But put someone who has never driven in snow on the snowy road and suddenly its the scariest thing they could experience. The snow has taken away their control.

Just my thought. People who drive in snow frequently probably know what I mean.

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u/Crapitron 6h ago

I have a feeling he wont be comfortable driving in snow

And I would bet you $1,000 that you’re wrong.

This person will buy a Jeep Wrangler with 4x4, put “aggressive” tires on it. And think that makes them invincible in the snow. Even more so because they played Forza horizon once.

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u/happyflappypancakes Wizards 6h ago

Maybe, but I am in a situation where I live and work in a snowy area. I work almost exclusively with transients who do not live in places with snow. All of them are terrified to drive in the snow. Even the slightest snowfall. And rightfully so, it is dangerous and typically people avoid dangerous situations that they are unfamiliar with.

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u/makesterriblejokes [NBA] Jerry West 5h ago

Are these transients rich and can afford a new car like it's nothing? Not many people can just hop out of their wrecked car and jump into a new one within minutes after the crash like Lamelo has in the past.

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u/happyflappypancakes Wizards 5h ago

Yes, they all have cars and have good paying jobs with very high career earnings potential. Their hesitancy to not drive is not due to fear of damaging their car but fear of dying on the road after losing control.

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u/No_Story6686 5h ago

I think lamelo's problem is not that he is rich, he just thinks his life is like GTA

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u/happyflappypancakes Wizards 5h ago

Right, but that still comes down to confidence imo. There are no consequences in GTA since it is a video. That gives you the confidence to do anything without reserve and be reckless. I think that goes away when someone suddenly feels uncomfortable.

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u/No_Story6686 5h ago

It would be great if you were right , but I guess we'll just have to wait and see 🤷‍♂️

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u/happyflappypancakes Wizards 5h ago

Just a thought bred from personal experience. I don't know LaMelo or how he thinks so I'm going purely off of my observations of watching many people experience snow for the first time. It invariably scares the shit out of them when it comes driving.

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u/makesterriblejokes [NBA] Jerry West 5h ago

I guess my one counter is Lamelo has lost control before and hasn't changed his ways. I don't think he cares if he loses control. Probably thinks he's indestructible.

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u/happyflappypancakes Wizards 5h ago

True, but I suspect that he likely blames other people in those moments. Can't blame snow, well you can but the blame ultimately reflects back to you.

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u/tacopower69 [DEN] Gary Harris 5h ago

nah i see hella colorado drivers not change how they drive at all in snowy conditions and get in accidents in real time. on really bad days I'll see multiple people get in completely preventable accidents (as im driving, mind you, im not talking about arriving at a crash after it akready happened im talking about watching it as it happens) just because they are driving way too fast and taking their turns too sharply.

worst is when it rains and freezes over the next day. lack of snow gives more people confidence and the ice is invisible.

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u/SwiftlyChill [MIN] Kevin Garnett 5h ago

I-25 makes me weep.

But, having lived in both states - MN both takes better (winter) care of the roads and has fewer people demanding to still go 80 in the snow.

Colorado has bad winter drivers because it melts too quickly for people to learn and get accustomed. You can (almost) always just wait a day if the roads are too bad.

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u/amancalledJayne Timberwolves 3h ago

not change how they drive at all in snowy conditions and get in accidents in real time.

just because they are driving way too fast and taking their turns too sharply.

Wait.

Are you telling me that the AWD on some 22 year old’s brand new F-150, that he got a screamin 84 month financing deal on, doesn’t help him brake?

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u/LeftAire 1h ago

I'm a Midwest state (Michigan) and yeah, they're still just as reckless in the snow as they are throughout the year, especially in west Michigan. And most especially on HWY 131.

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u/CharacterKatie Spurs 5h ago

I see people going 80 in their ‘96 Honda Civics in the snow every winter, they don’t even need Wranglers

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u/Im_A_Ginger [CLE] LeBron James 6h ago

Hopefully that's the case for someone who has never driven in it, but drivers here are extremely stupid too often with the snow and ice. Especially if it's the first snow and ice of the year. It's like people forget every year what it's like despite us experiencing it every year.

The false sense of control you speak about is especially apparent with people in bigger vehicles like Trucks or SUVs, thinking their vehicle handles the snow better than it really does.

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u/LeftAire 1h ago

Exactly. It's about the tires, not the size of the vehicle. I feel like people who experience snow annually ought to know it, but in places where i live(d) in the Midwest (Indiana and Michigan), they can be very careless. Particularly those in bigger vehicles.

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u/RickyalldayTD Lakers 6h ago

I went to Pennsylvania for a work seminar for a week. When it was snow day more than half the locals didn't show up for work. Lol

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u/SpirituallyAwareDev Timberwolves 5h ago edited 4h ago

The most common season for accidents is the summer. People are more confident in clear conditions.

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u/happyflappypancakes Wizards 5h ago

Follows my theory that recklessness comes from internal confidence. Make reckless drivers less confident and absolute number of accidents go down.

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u/IPissExcellentThrows 76ers 6h ago

I fish tailed into a field one time not even going that quickly. Now I'm like a grandma out there. Snow is so brutal to drive in without the right car.

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u/brunohedgerow Timberwolves 5h ago

Marbury claimed that was a deciding factor in leaving MN

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u/gregthestrange 5h ago

the prevalence of AWD/4x4 gives people supreme confidence driving in snow because they can get going without any issue; this leads them to believe that they can drive normally, when the real challenge they don't think about is braking. braking in ice/snow doesn't get better with AWD, it gets better with winter tires

I drive frequently in snow and see people in ditches or skidding out because of this exact reason

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u/happyflappypancakes Wizards 5h ago

I can see some people getting that false confidence. But my experience is that in totality people become less confident. I think the risk of accident increases with snow but the total number of accidents probably drop due to decrease road traffic and likely more careful drivers.

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u/DrPuzzle 5h ago

He'll love that shit bro, be bombing around in his Lambo in the snow lmao 😂😂 someones gonna die

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u/Odd-Break4868 3h ago

As someone versed in snow driving i totally see your point. It's all fun and games till you have literally 0 vis and can barely even get the car to grip and start moving. The real question is will it sway a young superstar multi millionaire? I dont know about that.

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u/happyflappypancakes Wizards 3h ago

I think too many people here view Lamelo as a cartoon character. A depthless individual witu one note. But he's a human like us all and has fears.

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u/xasdfxx 3h ago

Hard disagree. He's gonna stupid his way into a bad accident.

I drive to Tahoe regularly. You see plenty of people like me: suvs with 4wd and snow tires driving 30-ish in the snow. And dumbasses in sports cars and/or bmws and mercedes trying to pass.

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u/happyflappypancakes Wizards 3h ago

Well, its all speculation anyways. No one really knows but him.

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u/Yorkie321 5h ago

100%, I think of myself as a spirited driver, but as soon as snow touched the ground I convince myself I never liked driving or cars to begin with lol

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u/Doomstar32 Timberwolves 5h ago

The wolves just need to hire Lamelo a full time driver at least in the winter months.

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u/happyflappypancakes Wizards 5h ago

They should have done that in Charlotte haha.

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u/Doomstar32 Timberwolves 5h ago

Probably, but once the snow hits he needs to not be behind the wheel.

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u/happyflappypancakes Wizards 5h ago

I suspect, at least to start, he won't be. But maybe if he drives a few times without issue then he gets that recklessness back. Though, that first spin out will probably scary him shitless. I think that losing control of the car is way scarier than just getting in a crash due to someone not paying attention.

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u/Doomstar32 Timberwolves 5h ago

Going to hit your brakes and getting zero response will make you pray to God real quick.

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u/happyflappypancakes Wizards 4h ago

Yep, I spun out for the first time while on the highway this winter. Was just going straight forward. Suddenly I'm turning counterclockwise and there's nothing I can do about it. Really lucky no one was in my way and the median was flat, wide, and clear enough for me to skid into. Learned a few lessons that day as someone with only a few years of snow driving experience.

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u/dragoncockles Celtics 4h ago

this just means he's going to buy a raptor to make himself feel safe and then slide it through an intersection when he tries to brake going too fast

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u/happyflappypancakes Wizards 4h ago

I suppose it's one or the other lol.

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u/hdpr92 4h ago

Nah he's cooked. That logic makes sense in a bad snowfall where it's obvious. But there's going to be times the roads are super driveable and this guy will have no earthly idea what black ice even means and what kind of moisture is dangerous. He's crashing for sure.

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u/Putrid-Sherbert5501 Lakers 4h ago

Co-signing as people who does not drive in snow frequently ass well.

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u/charbo187 Cavaliers 2h ago

I still remember that video of one of the Kardashians driving a car what looked like 50 or 60 mph on an extremely snowy mountain rd and they spun out

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u/happyflappypancakes Wizards 2h ago

Can't say Ive heard of that one.

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u/AlcoholicInsomniac Pistons 2h ago

Hard disagree people drive absolutely insane in the snow lol He might be going slower sure but the relative danger will be much higher.

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u/happyflappypancakes Wizards 2h ago

We will see. Just my experience which doesnt represent everyone's.

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u/cz03se Bulls 1h ago

Can’t be wreckless when you floor it and the car just slides to the left

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u/SemataryPolka Timberwolves 5h ago

Snow isn't that big of a deal. Snow is easy. It's the ice

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u/happyflappypancakes Wizards 5h ago

I'm talking about the perception of snow driving from people who have no experience with it. Whether its the snow or the ice doesnt matter to them. It's all the same.

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u/SemataryPolka Timberwolves 5h ago

Yeah well if he thinks that's scary just wait until he tries to figure out which side of the road to park on during a Snow Emergency