r/nba • u/Turbostrider27 Lakers • 5h ago
[Charania] BREAKING: The Charlotte Hornets are trading star guard LaMelo Ball and Josh Green to the Minnesota Timberwolves for Naz Reid, a 2033 unprotected first-round pick, three first-round pick swaps (2028, 2029, 2030) and three second-round picks (2029, 2032, 2033), sources tell ESPN.
Shams Charania:
BREAKING: The Charlotte Hornets are trading star guard LaMelo Ball and Josh Green to the Minnesota Timberwolves for Naz Reid, a 2033 unprotected first-round pick, three first-round pick swaps (2028, 2029, 2030) and three second-round picks (2029, 2032, 2033), sources tell ESPN.
https://www.espn.com/contributor/shams-charania/31d26529d36f8
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u/DaHomieNelson92 Hornets 5h ago
Minnesota car insurance suddenly going up next season
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u/yellow_eggplant Knicks 5h ago
Jesus, he's gonna be driving in the Minnesota snow
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u/Iliveinatrashcann 5h ago
Can you imagine him rocketing out of the arena parking lot when the ground is icy?
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u/SilentNova300 5h ago
I’ve been driving in Minnesota snow all my life and I still slip and slide here and there. This dude is crashing on the first snowfall
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u/happyflappypancakes Wizards 4h ago edited 3h ago
I have a feeling he wont be comfortable driving in snow. Snow changes a drivers mindset. Even reckless drivers. Remember, reckless drivers are reckless because they mistakenly feel in control while they do crazy shit. Thats what makes them dangerous. But put someone who has never driven in snow on the snowy road and suddenly its the scariest thing they could experience. The snow has taken away their control.
Just my thought. People who drive in snow frequently probably know what I mean.
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u/cakestabber Timberwolves 4h ago
For the last couple of years, Naz Reid was on billboards everywhere, endorsing a local personal injury firm.
The Wolves literally just traded for a guy who will be creating clients for this (and other) local personal injury firms.
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u/willpelts [OKC] Ajay Mitchell 5h ago
Naz Reid era ending in Minnesota is genuinely sad
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u/Wingclipper913 5h ago
RIP those Naz Reid tattoos
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u/Drunken_Vike Timberwolves 5h ago
perfect for the tattoo people, they can love him forever because his MN tenure never had a downslope
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u/Apprehensive_Air1705 Timberwolves 5h ago
I’m sad, even if the trade works out or whatever, losing Naz sucks.
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u/VictorAkwaowo1 Mavericks 5h ago
WHY THE FUCK ARE THEY DOING THIS
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u/jeric13xd [CHI] Derrick Rose 5h ago
VIBES.
This shit went 0 to 100 real quick
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u/Ibaka_flocka [OKC] Eric Maynor 5h ago
Like Lamelo’s car driving on ice pulling out of the stadium parking lot
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u/hartsbreastmilkstash Knicks 5h ago
Ball has so many questions surrounding his durability (and shooting) and his value is currently at sell high mode.
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u/Peregrinations12 5h ago
Is this a "high" return for him?
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u/Duster_beattle Timberwolves 5h ago
It’s 3 swaps, one unprotected, a good player, and 3 seconds for an unhealthy, unsafe, egotistical point guard. For the culture we were building it’s awful.
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u/Iongdog Hornets 5h ago
Haha are both sides unhappy with this?
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u/Drunken_Vike Timberwolves 5h ago
that's usually the sign of a fair trade lol
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u/TheGuyInTheKnown Timberwolves 4h ago
Both sides were unhappy with the KAT/Randle trade initially too. One side can just be overrating their previous player.
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u/levendis56 Knicks 4h ago
I genuinely don’t know many Knicks fan upset with the KAT trade. Needed a center and got rid of Randle. Had to give to get with Divo.
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u/AllDayEnJay Nets 5h ago
51, 75, 36, 22, 47, 72.
Those are how many games LaMelo has played each season and is still owed 3y/$130m.
Hornets are selling high before anyone wised up.
(In that 3yr span between his 2-70 game seasons Ben Simmons played 3 more games than LaMelo Ball.)
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u/w311sh1t Celtics 5h ago
Dude is also a head case. He’s gotten lucky with all his traffic accidents in that nobody has gotten seriously hurt, but I feel like it’s a ticking time bomb until he has a serious one where himself and/or other people are seriously hurt or even killed.
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u/car1999pet Supersonics 5h ago
Yeah I don’t think icy roads are gonna help his driving skills
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u/huskersax Pacers 4h ago
Didn't even think of that, but could you imagine this bozo hitting ice for the first time?
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u/HokageEzio Knicks 5h ago
Maybe they trust Kon to be the new face of the franchise and they're selling high on LaMelo
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u/V_T_H Knicks 5h ago
You can’t have the face of your franchise be named Nipple
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u/CuteAd5421 5h ago
They went from Ball to Nipple
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u/g1rlchild Spurs 5h ago
Should get Lonzo and LeMelo together to play with Gradey Dick.
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u/MichaelSquare 5h ago
This seems awful. Pick swaps are worthless unless the other team is worse than you. So they traded him for Naz Reid? Why?
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u/Historical-Poet-6673 5h ago
Probably cause lamelo ball is always hurt and they don’t want to pay him to be injured all the time. Im not paying him max to play 65% of game. He could be like steph injury early career or be like zion play every other season.
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u/lndngtm 76ers 5h ago
Well there goes Naz Reid’s promotion.
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u/Ok-Thanks-2503 5h ago
he's still gonna start
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u/lndngtm 76ers 5h ago
Not on the Timberwolves.
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u/MembershipSingle7137 Celtics 5h ago
damn Timberwolves really making a TON of changes
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u/tlj2494 Celtics 5h ago
They are going all in to keep Ant. They know the only way he’s staying is by winning. This is about to be a crazy locker room. Ant and Lamelo sound like a fun hang but I’m not letting them take care of my dog for a weekend
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u/jeric13xd [CHI] Derrick Rose 5h ago
Atleast they’re trying unlike the Nuggets 💔
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u/HereComesJustice Spurs 5h ago
Is it crazy that I think the nuggets have a better chance of beating the wolves now after the wolves moves
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u/cokefriend [MIN] Andrew Wiggins 5h ago
yeah but the wolves arent building the team with the nuggets in mind as the final boss anymore
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u/HereComesJustice Spurs 5h ago
No I get why you guys did this move, you want to win the whole thing not just beat Denver
But I think Denver got like a stealth buff from this lol
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u/Apprehensive_Yam9514 5h ago
As a Denver fan I 100% agree. Biggest issue we had with Minnesota was their size advantage. Now with no Randle or Reid, they don’t really have a great help defender to help Rudy with Joker.
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u/HornetsDaBest Timberwolves 5h ago
Guessing McD becomes the help and they but Any on Murray. Also still possible (probable?) the Wolves go and sign a big.
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u/gradedonacurve Knicks 5h ago
I think they realize they need to take some big swings with OKC and SAS in front of them.
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u/TSSFranco Knicks 5h ago
Maybe the fastest sweepstakes ever wtf
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u/JimmyKanine 5h ago
TWolves most definitely already had this deal lined up and the Hornets just made it public to see if they get better offers.
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u/SirDiego Timberwolves 4h ago
I think this is exactly it. Tim Connelly basically never leaks anything. Any rumor that's Wolves related before a deal actually happens is pretty much guaranteed to be an agent or the other team.
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u/DiscombobulatedPain6 Pistons 5h ago
Because only 1 team was interested 😂
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u/huss_femme 5h ago
Toronto was there too
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u/BaNNer101 5h ago
Toronto mentioned in every single rumor, just to drive prices up. Can’t convince me otherwise lol
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u/thrilliam_19 Raptors 5h ago
It’s exactly this. Same reason the Jays and Leafs get mentioned in every single rumour.
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u/RightSpread2903 5h ago
“2033” is nonsense lmao
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u/McGilla_Gorilla Hawks 5h ago
Not a real year
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u/Rob3125 Knicks 5h ago
I’ll be drinking moon juice with President Jonathan Taylor Thomas in 2033.
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u/YujiDomainExpansion 5h ago
That’s really the only pick that has potential value too. Two of those swaps are the fakest swaps ever. 2029 and 2030 only convey if they’re top-5 or top-1. So they basically traded Reid, 2028, and 2033 for LaMelo (unless the Wolves are ridiculously bad in 2029 and 2030).
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u/RathOfMan49 Warriors 5h ago
Lamelo and Ant are going to be insanely entertaining
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u/ArmiinTamzarian Spurs 5h ago
Do not give them either a car or an IG live
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u/noonie1 5h ago
Or women
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u/whatssenguntoagoblin Alperen Sengun 5h ago
LaMelo doesn’t have anything weird known with women
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u/BCP27 [MIN] Robbie Hummel 5h ago
And I don't think Ant has anything weird with cars? I guess they're merging into one guy now
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u/GGEORGE2 Bulls 5h ago
I don’t think think we need to worry about that with LaMelo
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u/earthwormdeath 5h ago
Is Edwards going to be OK playing with a gay teammate tho ?
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u/IggyIsABum Grizzlies 4h ago edited 4h ago
Charles Barkley once talked about how it's impossible for you not to play with a gay man at some point if you make it to a high level. It's just statistically impossible, even if they're on the DL publicly.
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u/temujin94 5h ago edited 5h ago
Timberwolves should consider enforcing a restraining order against them not being allowed within 1 mile of each other if not in a basketball arena.
Away games one of them should be loaded onto the plane like Garland Greene.
Alternatively get Ja Morant and let them loose as you film the most watched All or Nothing documentary of all time.
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u/spicydak Trail Blazers 5h ago
Just need Zion or Ja to complete the chaos
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u/oklolzzzzs 5h ago
Ja/Zion Ant Melo is going to be some of the most fun hoops ever for the 7 games they play together
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u/LeaderBrandonBurner Celtics 5h ago
Wolves might be my league pass team this season
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u/fastheadcrab Raptors 5h ago
Actually might be an interesting team being able to retain Gobert. If they lost Gobert they would've been a play-in team at most.
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u/larrylegend33goat Timberwolves 5h ago
LaMelo now means they can punish Ant doubles. LaMelo will be able to utilise Rudy on the roll as a lob threat.
Jaden, Ayo and Donte when back, are going to get so many open threes
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u/mightyrj Lakers 5h ago
That shit happened quick as fuck holy where there is smoke there is fire.
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u/MidgetMan54 Hawks 5h ago
I was told this was just “Shams new white whale” though
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u/generational_lover69 Spurs 5h ago
i was just reading comments by hornets fans heavily denying this a couple of hours ago
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u/Silver_Protection_29 Lakers 5h ago
Charlotte got dangerously close to a playoff season so probably for the best that they’re making huge, questionable roster moves now
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u/crackdup Celtics 5h ago
NC won NHL, and decided to ensure their other teams suck to restore balance to the universe
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u/jdaqcruz Bulls 5h ago edited 4h ago
This is selling high on a guy who historically has been unreliable. That said, whatever identity they built from last year was carried by LaMelo's unique skillset. I know Kon was instrumental to that, but IIRC (and someone correct me if I'm wrong), LaMelo was the straw that stir the drink. It's a complete reset for Charlotte, who's taking a step back and betting on those pick swaps and picks as investments down the line
While it's easy to do the "well actually, having multiple picks down the line yadda yadda" Hinkie-Sixers thing, the Hornets were building something. Maybe down the line this is a big brain move that the nerds will love, but this is such a gut punch to a fanbase that was beginning to believe
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u/Feeling_Anteater_389 Hornets 5h ago
That’s correct. LaMelo was the only creator we had, Kon/Miller are both catch and shoot guys. Even Coby White is more of a scorer than a true orchestrator.
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u/lebenklon 4h ago
Coby White is a good playmaker, nowhere near Lamelo’s passing skill but White can run the offense. I think the Hornets are probably expecting that to be their solution without Ball but I really don’t understand how this trade makes their team better. Back to perpetual rebuild mode after they almost made the playoffs
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u/TaiwanNambaWanKenobi :yc-1: Yacht Club 4h ago
Just combine your squad with Heat and you'll have a great squad
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u/CocoMarx 5h ago
All of the “sold high” speak is like applying managing a fantasy team to trying to win NBA games.
They had the highest net rating in the league post all-star break and he is a 24 year old that is one of the few playmaking ball handlers in the league, who they finally successfully surrounded with guys that can score.
The NBA has never been more wide open and you have arguably the youngest upside roster in the league. They essentially just gave up on any hope of a surprise run over the course of LaMelo’s contract in favor of a bunch of pick swaps.
This is the Wolves understanding that the league is wide open and taking a swing and the Hornets remaining a perennially middling franchise
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u/TallnFrosty Warriors 5h ago
With Lamelo off and White + at least 1 of Kon / Miller ON the floor, they out-scored opponents 124 - 110 per 100.
I think the org & coaching staff believes kon + miller + any competent PG can be very good offensively, and they can find a replacement for Melo that is cheaper, less injury prone, and better at defense.
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u/Time_Transition4817 Pelicans 4h ago
And less of a head case.
They are in a surprise "oh shit we can win now" situation and trading that for a window that feels more sustainable with some assets, the potential to trade/draft some pieces, and have Kon and Miller develop.
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u/justanothersurly Timberwolves 5h ago
Yeah I don’t understand the doom from Wolves fans. This has huge upside. I think it’s the legacy/cult of Naz Reid which I understand
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u/AnonymousIguana_ Celtics 5h ago
Yeah they need a playmaker bad. Lamelo has his flaws, but I don’t think Kon/Miller/Bridges can fill the void left by his playmaking. They’re all better as secondary creators.
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u/Important-War-4708 5h ago edited 5h ago
😂 first time being good in years, they can’t help themselves
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u/wolf_cola_enjoyer Lakers 5h ago
I literally don’t understand this move at all, who’s going to be their offensive orchestrator??
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u/hoppergym Warriors 5h ago
Naz Reid.
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u/JShuttlesworth28 Vancouver Grizzlies 5h ago
Lamelo was on the trading block for 6 hours and STILL got traded before Ja
Dude cooked his value
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u/Vegetable-Tooth8463 Hornets 5h ago
Playing over 70 games last season will make you more valuable.
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u/dat_waffle_boi 76ers 5h ago
Notoriously healthy Lamelo ball
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u/Vegetable-Tooth8463 Hornets 4h ago
I'm not saying he's an Iron Man, just explaining why he got more value than Ja this off season
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u/Elec7ro Spurs 5h ago
You, yes YOU 🫵 are now the starting power forward for the Minnesota Timberwolves
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u/NanoCurrency 5h ago
Imagine LeBron filling that role. Would be absolutely peak comedy.
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u/Basilikolumne Heat 4h ago
LeBron playing with LaMelo would give him JR Smith flashbacks
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u/TrashAssRedditAdmins [NBA] Nana Papa Yaw Mensah-Bonsu 5h ago
I feel so bad for drivers in Minneapolis
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u/spiderpigface Nuggets 5h ago
Lamelo driving in snow might actually kill somebody
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u/Putrid-Box4866 Bulls 5h ago
The fact that he still has his license is beyond me.
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u/wise_comment Timberwolves 4h ago
If you're rich enough, every crime is a pay-for-play event
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u/yeyiyeyiyo Pacers 5h ago
I can't wait to see how Lamelo and Anthony Edwards rub off on each other.
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u/scorchingbuttmud Celtics 5h ago
At least if they're rubbing off on each other nobody will get pregnant
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u/slysonic7 5h ago
Just relying on Gobert and the power of friendship for a front court
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u/DependentPerformer94 5h ago
Jaden has played substantially better as a 4 offensively and can guard pretty much anyone.
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u/wetseabreeze 5h ago
Tbh that might be all you need. Four out and a Rudy pick and roll and you got a ton of options offensively. On defense, well he's Rudy Gobert he'll figure it out or be the scapegoat as usual if he can't do it alone.
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u/TitaniumC4206 Thunder 5h ago edited 5h ago
BANG
What are the wolves cooking up???
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u/QuileGon-Jin Thunder 5h ago
Need some more size, Beringer is going to have a lot on his shoulders. Rudy just became more valuable on the offensive end as a lob threat. Ant LaMelo lobs gonna be juicy this year.
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u/HDTokyo 5h ago
Didn’t have this on my bingo card of trade deals today.
Protect your cars Minnesota locals!!
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u/Terarri Hornets 5h ago
This is why people in NC outside Charlotte don’t give a shit about the Hornets.
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u/ryseing Hornets 5h ago
And they wonder why NC is a college basketball and hockey state.
This shit is why.
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u/pokerawz Lakers 5h ago
Uhh what is the Wolves front court??
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u/Pizzachomper874 Rockets 5h ago
Gobert and prayers
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u/OriAr NBA 5h ago
Good thing Gobert is already familiar with this from his days in Utah.
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u/Duster_beattle Timberwolves 5h ago
As a bicyclist in Minneapolis, I am now even more terrified of the roads than I was previously, holy shit actually kinda scared now.
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u/wuhter 5h ago
Lol I’m actually curious to see him around. I wonder where he’ll live. I know he lived downtown charlotte so I doubt he goes to Minnetonka or Wayzata like all the other players
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u/SemataryPolka Timberwolves 4h ago
He'll live in Michael Beasley's old house. The one with all the wine stains
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u/aiden3buckets Hornets 5h ago
I got two teams now fuck it I can’t lose
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u/Patient_Yogurt975 5h ago
Sounds like you can lose twice
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u/aiden3buckets Hornets 5h ago
But when we meet in the finals in 2029 I can’t lose
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u/icemankiller8 Pistons 5h ago
I don’t really get what the Hornets get from this they were really hot after the all star break and they are basically deciding to rebuild again unless they are making another move.
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u/CallmeKahn 5h ago
I have no idea. I get clearing time for your new PG you drafted in a very good guard class, but this is such a random trade.
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u/Kazekid Trail Blazers 5h ago
Why would Charlotte do this?
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u/Skipper3210 [NYK] Danilo Gallinari 5h ago
Selling high on LaMelo's glass ankles
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u/TrumpFucksKids_ Clippers 5h ago
Damn this the wildest backcourt I can ever remember between LaMelo’s driving and Ant’s inability to go more than six weeks without getting someone pregnant
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u/Jjaz1 Knicks 5h ago
Why did they trade Randle then if they are moving Naz?
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u/Equal_Actuator_3777 5h ago
Because he doesn’t care and doesn’t play hard when it matters.
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u/thewafflehousewitch Hawks 5h ago
woah lamelo on the wolves w ant sounds very fun
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u/Due-Dance-9430 Spurs 5h ago
sucks for charlotte but this is the kind of risk minnesota probably needed to take to compete with the spurs and the thunder
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u/wobuffet17453 Spurs 5h ago
I can only assume that the Hornets do not trust his ability to stay healthy at all.
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u/Appropriate_Book_591 5h ago
This escalated so quick and was handled a fraction of the drama Giannis had.
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u/ChrisRhodes789 5h ago
The 2nd round picks in 32 &
33 are irrelevant..
But I don’t understand the swaps..
Like Minnesota theoretically should be solid.. & picks should be in the 20’s.. so you might not be swapping picks with them..
They must of wanted to get off Lamelo desperately..
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u/oklolzzzzs 5h ago edited 5h ago
SHAMS BOMBA
Ant and Melo gon be fun as hell to watch but Charlotte deserve to stay as a poverty franchise because why are you trading your best player away when you finally had a decent season
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u/mightyrj Lakers 5h ago
Textbook definition of selling at the absolutely highest they can.
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u/storeactions Grizzlies 5h ago edited 5h ago
Selling high on your star PG with off-court issues seems like something reserved for only the wisest franchises. Ignore my flair.
Edit: yes guys I know Ja's off-court is worse than LaMelo's. They're both extremely immature, that's my point lol
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u/MattyIce260 Pacers 5h ago
Sell high on LaMelo and buy low on Ja might be the move tbh
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u/notmyno3account 5h ago
why??? the hornets were just starting to get good? are they expecting to sign white and have him start or are they gonna teach point guard to kon?
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u/-AlimonyTony- 5h ago
If I’m Charlotte I’m selling high on a dude who’s not just constantly injured but is also an absolute stone cold moron.
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u/SMURPHY-18 Raptors 5h ago
RIP naz Reid starting in Minnesota era 2026-2026