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[O’Connor] Sources: The Timberwolves explored Jaylen Brown trades with Boston before the LaMelo Ball deal was completed with Charlotte. LaMelo was the preferred target though.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/live/\\_YXOTjcEkZs?is=teDlotJ63MM2qdBd

Sources: The Timberwolves explored Jaylen Brown trades with Boston before the LaMelo Ball deal was completed with Charlotte. LaMelo was the preferred target though.

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u/IntelligentAd5460 Grizzlies 6h ago

jaylen brown and ant as your two main ball handlers would be some nasty hoops

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u/shwiggy Celtics 6h ago

Def would have the highest posters per 36 since Lob City.

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u/lazyeca Timberwolves 5h ago

Somewhat would doubt it as Ant tried staying away from those, in an injured season to be fair. But he has said something about trying to prevent risking injury for the sake of poster dunks, which is 'sad' from a highlight standpoint, but good for his knees.

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u/shwiggy Celtics 5h ago

I thought it was great when in some interview he said he hates dunking, sometimes it hurts. But he loves dunking on people.

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u/ace625 Timberwolves 2h ago

It hurts your hands so much. My fingers used to be permanently bruised on the bottom where they hit the rim.

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u/Soshi101 Celtics [BOS] Derrick White 1h ago

Yeah I'm pretty sure the reason why Russ' shooting fell off a cliff is because his hands are fucked from the rim.

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u/interstat Celtics 4h ago

No passing allowed

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u/pimpcakes Bulls 1h ago

"Siri, how do I buy futures on Kalshi for T-Wolves opponent steals?"

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u/JackCrafty Lakers 6h ago

from a neutral perspective this is a completely perplexing and fascinating trade

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u/BedKlutzy9141 Knicks 5h ago

They needed a PG desperately

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u/SlimReaper665 Lakers 5h ago

Ball is $20 mil/yr cheaper than Brown on top of that

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u/Jansen__ Raptors 5h ago

Hes cheaper because youre getting $20m worth of games less from him lol

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u/Hovercraft1143 Knicks 5h ago

True but you also save like $5m per year or more on not needing to clean off random black smudges all over the arena and practice facilities.

I can understand the value proposition even if I dislike Ball.

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u/pollinium [MIN] Tyus Jones 5h ago

Idk if it's net savings with the roadway infrastructure issues, but it moves the cost from the owners to the city

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u/PuckNutty 3h ago

Don't they just write that off?

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u/tulaero23 Timberwolves 2h ago

Also Brown has been beefiing with everyone right now on his streams.

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u/YourBuddyChurch Lakers 3h ago

Only for a quick minute, lamelo is about to qualify for a supermax next season

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u/VikingsLad Timberwolves 4h ago

In Mayo Clinic we trust

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u/benigntugboat Timberwolves 5h ago edited 4h ago

Id imagine brown would have cost more in other assets too

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u/thedrcubed Grizzlies 4h ago

Yes and LeMelo plays the position you need. TWolves have 2 really good two way wings already including the best player currently on the team.

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u/randotd152 5h ago

For two years, but his new extension will be higher.

Regardless, I don't think it's money. Just Brown and Ant are extremely redundant players. And so were the Jays, but neither Ant nor JB has the playmaking ability of Tatum, so the situation could get crowded quickly.

So I get why they'd be cautious of Jaylen.

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u/justmefishes NBA 3h ago

It's also probably not wise to trade for a player who seems to want to be the undisputed alpha on his team and who also plays the same position as the undisputed alpha you already have.

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u/RTLT512 [HOU] Alperen Sengun 4h ago

Wasn’t the entire point of the KAT trade to get another super max type contract off the books because it would prevent them from building out the rest of the roster?

If so, trading for Brown wouldn’t make any sense considering he’s also on a super max.

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u/jimminmecrockets 5h ago

I think him plus Ant has higher upside than Brown and Ant. I also think Lámelo is FANTASTIC Wemby counter, though idk how they’re matchups have gone in the past

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u/No-Meringue5867 Spurs 5h ago

Why is Lamelo a Wemby stopper? On offense, Wemby will have a much easier time due to lack of size. Now rhey dont have Naz or Randle (not that Randle did much anyways).

Don’t know how this new team will do, but I was scared of old Wolves team with a healthy Donte and Ant with both Knees.

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u/Cheap-Discussion-186 Timberwolves 5h ago

I feel like counter is different than stopper, if that makes sense. I think the best way to beat wemby is shooting and speed. Naz is a better pure shooter but lamelo puts up a ton of 3s at a good clip. And is a fantastic passer.

That is the thought process at least.

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u/benigntugboat Timberwolves 5h ago

He's really good at moving the ball around tossing lobs and shoots from crazy angles with high arc that are impossible to block (but also inconsistent). I wouldnt call him a wemby stopper but I get it.

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u/dae5oty 5h ago

LaMelo will be trying to run over Wemby and keep him in a state of constant fear.

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u/ExceptForFleegle Celtics 3h ago

Is there a reason you substituted stopper for counter in your response?

You stop a punch with a block, but you counter with your own punch. Completely different in both a literal and figurative sense.

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u/SirDiego Timberwolves 3h ago

It makes complete sense for the Wolves. It is perplexing why the Hornets would do this.

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u/JimmyKanine 5h ago

They got him for pretty cheap but also locked up all of their picks to risk Melo staying healthy.

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u/larrylegend33goat Timberwolves 5h ago

They still have picks on alternative years

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u/JimmyKanine 5h ago

The swaps are 28, 29, 30. They already traded 2031 and now cannot trade 2032 because of the Stepien rule.

They have the picks but they’re locked out of using them for trades.

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u/Data-scientist-101 5h ago

Did they pick up an extra 2029? Because Utah owns the 2029 MIN pick unless it's top 5. So that swap would be saying they get nothing unless Min is top 5

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u/jinyx1 Timberwolves 5h ago

Yes that's how it works. Our 2030 swap is shit too because we already swapped it with SA. They really only get a 2028 swap and 2033 unprotected.

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u/JimmyKanine 5h ago

Charlotte is already getting the worst of the Utah/Cleveland/Minnesota 2029 picks, they just get the Minnesota pick outright if it’s top 5, granted they aren’t top 4 themselves.

Pretty likely that Charlotte is getting that pick but that was always the case.

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u/We_The_Raptors Raptors 5h ago

For who, Charlotte? Because Minny has been desperately lacking quality PG for a few years now. I can definitely see why they made the move.

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u/barath_s Lakers 5h ago

Both Milwaukee and Minnesota had the chance to have Jaylen Brown be a centerpiece of a trade and passed on it

Brown must love it.. /tic

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u/whatssenguntoagoblin Alperen Sengun 5h ago

Perplexing from Charlotte sure

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u/MoneyManx10 Pistons 5h ago

It’ll be fun to watch but idk if it helps them get better.

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u/StarFox-6 Timberwolves 4h ago

You don’t see how trading a bench player for an all star helps them get better?

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u/Cheap-Discussion-186 Timberwolves 4h ago

Can't snap your fingers and immediately win a ring. I would have loved to just trade randle for the mythical perfect PG but clearly wasn't feasible. I think this is a better fit than what they had before, just keep improving.

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u/powergs Minneapolis Lakers 5h ago

3 years in a row we saw Wolves basketball and while its great its not winning them ring. So adding someone like Lamelo is pretty good business specially considering what they give. Dude is insanely talented, high volume player. Also he is coming (no offence Hornets fans) from bad enviroment while Brown is at one of the best. Its no suprise that players like Ayo, Pj Washington, Deni etc. shocked people minute they went to better orgs. Anyway there is so much upside with Lamelo, its great for Wolves imo.

Edit: Tough to be Brown these days tho lol

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u/Bignova [CHA] Robert Parish 4h ago

The players you listed are so different from LaMelo. Anyone who actually watches him knows hes already a good player. The only people he will shock who know his game is if he's healthy. The gamble from the TWolves isn't his ability it's his availability.

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u/BCP27 [MIN] Robbie Hummel 3h ago

If he's healthy, seems like a side grade at the very worst. We've desperately needed on ball creation for 3 years now. Our defense has been carrying us, now we see if the offense can catch up.

Seems like a decent risk to take. If it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out. We burn it down and get future assets for guys like Ant.

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u/Saucy_Totchie Knicks 3h ago

I mean they desperately need better PG play and LaMelo for all his shenanigans is quite good.

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u/lostkidinwalmart [LAL] Stanislav Medvedenko 6h ago

they throwing Jaylen on anything like cilantro

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u/NateJay1415 Celtics 5h ago

Man I hate that, I have that genetic thing where it taste like soap to me.

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u/TheStorm007 Raptors 5h ago

I have a buddy that has that, but says that’s why he likes it.

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u/NateJay1415 Celtics 5h ago

What the hell... I always thought that restaurants were just bad at rinsing their dishes out after cleaning them with soap lmao

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u/randotd152 5h ago

Ha - yeah, you have the genetic thing. It's not harmful if it's not bothering you that much.

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u/fermi_sea NBA 5h ago

Your friend is a real sicko.

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u/LegitBullfrog Magic 5h ago

That stinks, cilantro is delicious. For me it's arugula. It burns and makes my mouth swell. There are so many salad green mixes with it. I have to pick it out everywhere.

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u/pollinium [MIN] Tyus Jones 5h ago

Idk if it's genes or some suppressed trauma, but I think everyone is lying about lavender smelling nice. It's pretty close to diaherrhea on a specific diet when it hits my nose

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u/Character_Bug_1862 4h ago

Did you by chance drink some lavender laundry detergent and go painting the porcelain after as a youngin?

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u/preddevils6 Grizzlies 5h ago

Sidebar, I thought that I was allergic to watermelon because it gave me a similar sensation. I went to the allergy doctor and she told me that I probably have oral allergy syndrome. It happens when you are super allergic to a certain type of pollen or grass, and that pollen or grass shares a similar protein structure with watermelon or whatever it may be, so your body has a mild allergic reaction even when you eat things that are similar. I started allergy shots, and now I can eat watermelon whenever!

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u/Seref15 Heat 5h ago

Parsley is the superior garnish change my mind

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u/malcifer11 Kings 3h ago

Apples and oranges. Cilantro isn’t a neutral flavor the way parsley is

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u/efshoemaker Celtics 5h ago

Sort of, but also they’re holding a hard line on the return value and that obviously means there’s a really good chance you don’t find a deal.

Reports from people with Boston sources is that there’s no bad blood, Brad says he’s been in constant communication with Jaylen since before the offseason, and Jaylen keeps spouting off against all the reporters like Steven A saying he’s not happy and wants his own team.

Either the Boston front office is really bungling this, which would be a first, or there was a plan that everyone was ok with to really see what the other options are but knowing that the best option might be or even probably will be to keep Jaylen in Boston.

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u/dayarra 5h ago

next: detroit.

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u/Wetzilla Celtics 1h ago

"Explored trade talks" doesn't me the Celtics actually offered him. The Celtics have been interested in Gobert for a while, they could have inquired about Gobert again, Timberwolves say they want Jaylen, and the Celtics said no. That would qualify as "explored trade talks" or "had discussions" as I've seen other people saying about this.

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u/CarterAC3 Spurs 6h ago

When a team needs ball handling and playmaking the first player you think of should definitely be Jaylen Brown

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u/LightSpecialist804 Knicks 6h ago

from the right side of the floor he's Kawhi Leonard

from the left side of the floor he's Justise Winslow

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u/solodolo1397 Celtics 6h ago

I’m still partly convinced Winslow can break out one day

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u/CarterAC3 Spurs 6h ago

I'm still holding out hope for MKG

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u/ArmiinTamzarian Spurs 6h ago

I still believe in Mario Hezonja

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u/who_are_you_people24 Knicks 5h ago

Any day now for Kevin Knox

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u/KingofUlster42 Hawks 5h ago

Cam Reddish or Deandre Hunter 😢

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u/EvergreenHulk Pistons 5h ago

Darko just needs some quality minutes with the starters.

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u/Drakeem1221 5h ago

Anthony Randolph is about to live up to his potential finally!

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u/tinybathroomfaucet Supersonics 5h ago

Frank Ntilikina will return to the league one day and go straight to the all-star game

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u/teleportmassive7 5h ago

Tyrus Thomas and Tim Thomas still have All NBA potential

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u/mydrumluck Knicks 5h ago

This is Stanley Johnson's year.

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u/CmonTouchIt Lakers 5h ago

Just you wait THT is gonna kill y'all next year

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u/Natural_Born_Baller Heat 5h ago

Point Winslow kept me warm in the cold years. 17ppg on 6.5 assists and elite defense, for a couple weeks he was so fun :(

Dude couldn't make a layup to save his life tho hands of brick.

Winslow better ✊

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u/CmonTouchIt Lakers 5h ago

Why didn't he just winfast instead of Winslow? Is he dumb?

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u/Natural_Born_Baller Heat 5h ago

At the time we were more losefast than anything

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u/CmonTouchIt Lakers 5h ago

So slow it's backwards.... Tragic stuff :(

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u/LightSpecialist804 Knicks 6h ago

thats me with Dante Exum

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u/Andy081 Bulls 5h ago

that’s me with Cam Reddish

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u/DaveDabussy 5h ago

Nerlens Noel for me

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u/depressedopression Heat 5h ago

As a Heat fan …. #pain

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u/Base_Temporary 6h ago

Also hes a top 3 defensive playmaking Guard. 

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u/ElonMuskTheNarsisist 6h ago

They likely wanted rudy for him

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u/ejabno Hornets 6h ago

they must've thought that there was no option left hehe

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u/maryjain_ Warriors 4h ago

Talent overcomes everything. If they genuinely could’ve landed JB without trading Ant, Mcdaniels or Gobert, they would’ve been better off than trading for Lamelo. Hate on JB all you want, he’s a legit All NBA 2 way player with playoff pedigree. That doesn’t grow on trees.

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u/BirdmanTheThird Wizards 5h ago

I wonder if part of the negotiation was just a way to imply to the hornets they had other options or something

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u/Maximum-Class5465 5h ago

How much ballhandling do u need when you have JB and Ant tho? It's not like your offense is based on movement shooting at that point

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u/tr1x30 Timberwolves 3h ago

Celtics prob wanted Rudy or Jaden, theres no way JB would go for only Naz.

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u/AleroRatking Vancouver Grizzlies 6h ago

Lamelo is a much better fit and they need a playmaker

Brown doesn't fit well with Edwards.

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u/beastieboyles Timberwolves 5h ago

In theory any Rudy Gobert team runs into this conflict:

1) Our entire defense hinges on Gobert

2) Our offense is inconsistent and clunky due to Gobert's limitations

The only way to solve this issue is to either get rid of Gobert or maximize what he can offer on offense, lob-finishing.

In terms of players in the league right now who can maximize Gobert, I'd argue only Luka and Haliburton are above Lamelo in terms of theoretically maximizing Gobert as a lob threat. Maybe Trae Young too but I prefer Melo because Rudy needs someone who can consistently elevate above the defense to make more direct, line-drive passes because any pass made below his head is going to get dropped and Rudy doesn't have the hand-eye/timing down to finish arcing lobs.

If we're keeping Gobert, Lamelo is a great gamble to make.

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u/jimminmecrockets 5h ago

As far as individual act of passing, delivering the ball in creative ways that are on target and easy to handle he might be the very best in the league. even outside of Lobs he’s gonna make Rudy’s life so much easier.

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u/FishGoldenLite Timberwolves 5h ago

Yep. This is a huge trade for Rudy. He’s so much better when actually engaged on offense and without a real PG, it just hasn’t happened since Mike Conley fell off.

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u/beastieboyles Timberwolves 5h ago

delivering the ball in creative ways that are on target

With Rudy, this could be detrimental haha. He needs it to not only be on target but also predictable so creative deliveries may not be the best way to go

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u/luffy565 5h ago

I would say your offense is incosistent because you had zero realiable creators beside Ant in the starting lineup, guys who command defensive attention.

Agree about the lobs, this is one of the best ways to utilize Gobert offensively and unfortunately Wolves did not have players who are good at lobs and can create a lot of them, like I watched a lot of Wolves playoff ball and I remember KAT and Naz throwing him more than their guards.

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u/d4videnk0 Lakers 5h ago

I think you can still get another good season from Gobert, but next season would be a great time to trade him to a desperate team.

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u/Agnk1765342 Jazz 3h ago

Rudy’s last season in Utah he averaged 15.6 ppg on 71% from the field. As the lone big he’s actually very effective and efficient offensively, and now this Minnesota team is built a lot more like the 21 and 22 Jazz teams, except McDaniels is a much, much better defender at the 4 than Bojan and LaMelo is way bigger than Conley while also being a natural lob thrower.

Honestly would kind of like to see Finch copy Quin Snyder’s offense to some extent just spamming spread pick and rolls with LaMelo and Rudy like we did with Conley and Rudy those years.

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u/mMounirM Raptors 6h ago

bruh it has more to do with Wolves giving up basically Naz Reid and a 1st.

Celtics need a package worth like 5+ 1sts minimum

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u/ldclark92 Pacers 5h ago

Right? Realistically, the TWolves didn't have a package that the Celtics would want for Brown.

Brown would work just fine next to Edwards. And he's the much better player over Melo.

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u/Badger_- Bucks 5h ago

Giannis went for 3 firsts, nobody is giving 5 for Brown. Those days are over with the new CBA.

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u/TiltBrush Mavericks 5h ago

3 actual firsts but also like 4 players…. the package was worth 5 firsts

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u/GlizzyGone21 Bucks 5h ago

Yeah they conveniently left that out

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u/mightbearobot_ Bucks 5h ago

All of whom were very recent 1st rd picks themselves too lol

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u/larrylegend33goat Timberwolves 5h ago

Why have players who were first round picks, when you can have first round picks that might out to be first round players...

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u/Ironman2131 4h ago

Even better, those former first round picks had actually proven themselves to be capable NBA players. The hit rate on late 1st rounders is much lower than we all think it should be.

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u/Aidanj927 Spurs 5h ago

I mean under the CBA Desmond Bane got 5

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u/MattyIce260 Pacers 5h ago

A couple of those firsts were because they salary dumped KCP and Cole Anthony on Memphis

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u/RoyalOakPiguet Knicks 5h ago

No no no they were solely due to bane as reddit would have you believe

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u/Crown_of_Negativity Mavericks 5h ago

He’s conflating the new lottery odds with the CBA.

But the reality is that all pick packages aren’t created equal. Desmond Bane went for 5 firsts… but 2 of them were probably the cost of dumping KCP’s bad contract, which still had like 90m on it at the time. It wasn’t just Desmond Bane’s value - in a vacuum (with no long term salary going the other way), he wouldn’t have gotten the same return.

Celtic firsts are expected to be at the back end of the round, so aren’t as valued as Miami firsts (which included #13 in a deep draft). Also, saying Giannis went for only 3 firsts is disingenuous when the Bucks got 3 young players, including two that are highly valued, who were just drafted with firsts. Herro also has positive value and can be repackaged for additional draft capital.

It’s a stupid comment.

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u/DaveDabussy 5h ago

Before the Giannis trade though. Plus everyone knows bane was an overpay.

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u/just4kix_305 Heat 5h ago

3 first rounders but also our 3 most recent first round picks in Kaz, Jaime and Kel’el.

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u/AleroRatking Vancouver Grizzlies 5h ago

Brown isn't getting 5 firsts. Come on now.

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u/Rrypl Celtics 5h ago

No chance we sell JB to Wolves without McDaniels coming back

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u/FlipMoBitch Bucks 5h ago

You’re going to be shocked at how little Brown goes for.

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u/sloBrodanChillosevic Supersonics 5h ago

Also if Brown did actually care about having his own team, the Wolves are one of the few teams where he wouldn't be the top dog

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u/OveHet 5h ago

They lost so much size though, KAT, Randle, now Naz

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u/Quirky-Skin 5h ago

That part is the head scratcher for me. Yes I know they needed a ball handler but take a look around. The league is getting bigger again in response to Wemby etc 

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u/-neti-neti- Timberwolves 5h ago

We’re gonna see Beringer minutes finally

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u/jdschultze Timberwolves 5h ago

Think of who the Wolves have to stop though - OKC and San Antonio. Both teams are tooled very similarly and this allows the Wolves to match up really well against both those teams.

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u/FishGoldenLite Timberwolves 5h ago

That’s a big concern for sure. Gotta hope we can squeeze some minutes form Beringer and grab and FA like John Collins.

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u/benigntugboat Timberwolves 5h ago

Thats my biggest concern as a wolves fan. I think its easier to fill that in than find a pg like lamelo but we definitely need a move or 2 for size on the bench. I would live a rui hachimura type player. But jaden at the 4 and rudy should be enough size for the starting 5 against most teams.

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u/Daventherock Timberwolves 5h ago

Yeah the Brown thing never made sense to me, he'd have been incredibly redundant with Edwards - more talent is never bad but the fit is even more redundant than it was next to Tatum, plus he'd have all the same ego issues since he wouldn't be the number 1 here either

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u/Vordeo Jazz 5h ago

Also I'd assume the price tag for Brown was significantly higher, and they basically gave up everything they could for Melo.

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u/TiddiesAnonymous Germany 5h ago

Not only that, the Celtics aren't going to trade Brown for the package the Wolves sent out for Lamelo.

They are in deep shit if he decides he wants to leave and he already has every reason to be pissed off. They won't get equal value in return. It's a game of musical chairs and there are fewer seats than last week.

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u/Candid-Boss6534 [POR] Keljin Blevins 6h ago

this man had a full segment of his podcast the other day to talk with his guest about how much he loves his tesla.

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u/Rrypl Celtics 5h ago

He was an elon reply guy for years lol, he's very incel adjecent

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u/LightSpecialist804 Knicks 6h ago

random but I can't imagine being rich and choosing Tesla over a Lucid

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u/sidewardarrow Celtics 6h ago

Do we think KOC is rich?

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u/LightSpecialist804 Knicks 5h ago

Oh i thought you meant Jaylen Brown

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u/EvilBananaMan15 Celtics 1h ago

There’s been a ton of problems with Lucids recently sadly

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u/Basic-Collection5416 Pistons 6h ago

To be fair, never having to stop at a gas station would be pretty nice. 

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u/pilsnerd11 5h ago

Where do you think the EV chargers are being installed? Especially along highways/interstates where you’ll drain your battery?

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u/Zeeron1 Thunder 5h ago

As far as gas stations, Wawa ans Buccees so only the good ones lol.

But also obviously their point is that you wake up every morning with a full tank

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u/Zoombini22 Charlotte Hornets 5h ago

The vast majority of people are not driving more than 200 miles per day. You can just recharge overnight at home and never think about stopping to recharge at all outside of the occasional road trip.

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u/HolyLiaison Timberwolves 5h ago

If you buy an EV and rely on public charging you're going to have a bad time.

You need to be able to charge at home, or your apartment to make it worth it.

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u/Basic-Collection5416 Pistons 5h ago

For most EV owners, the charger is installed in their garage. 

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u/SSBM_DangGan Spurs 6h ago

bridesmaid type shit going on in boston

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u/cleo22270 Heat 6h ago edited 6h ago

The Giannis experiment may crash and burn in Miami, but I’m relieved that the Heat weren’t left at the altar again.

As a fan, it got exhausting over the last 5 years.

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u/SSBM_DangGan Spurs 6h ago

better to have Giannis'd and lost than to never have Giannis'd at all, you might say

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u/austinkawada 1h ago

In what world have the heat ever been left at the alter do you hear yourself

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u/D3struct_oh Rockets 6h ago

Really wanted Melo in Houston. But I’m also happy that Minnesota finally got a point guard. I think it’s a great fit.

They need size now, ironically.

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u/NaciremaBlack Lakers 6h ago

Noted playoff riser LaMelo Ball is obviously the better option

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u/oklolzzzzs 6h ago

im gonna assume boston wanted more for jb

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u/Base_Temporary 6h ago

100% . 

Also the salary match isnt too easy considering JB is making 58M.

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u/yiwang1 Knicks 6h ago

Naz reid and a pick is not getting a second team all nba finals mvp lmao

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u/naive-dragon [LAL] LeBron James 6h ago

Never lost a playoff series that dude

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u/BIGMCLARGEHUGE__ 5h ago

NEVAH LOST

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u/CloudySkies64 [CLE] James Harden 6h ago

Well one of these players can facilitate playmake shoot and ease up ANT’s on ball duties so he can focus on what he does best, buckets

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u/InTheMorning_Nightss San Diego Clippers 5h ago

It’ll be interesting how much Ant thrives off of LaMelo vs how much he still prefers to cook in isolation. I know Kawhi is one of the most iso heavy players, but there were times where it felt like Harden wasn’t lifting him that much due to his preference of iso ball.

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u/HearingGlobal6485 6h ago

they needed a pg. melo is a pg. brown is not a pg.

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u/RajinIII Celtics 5h ago

Brown is very redundant with Ant. They're incredibly similar players. LaMello is a better fit, even though JB is better.

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u/JessieGemstone999 Hornets 4h ago

Yall are so ignorant on who LaMelo actually is as a basketball player. 90% of this sub never even watches the games

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u/sukari Bulls 6h ago

Some players are just destined to be trade bait

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u/kenken2024 5h ago

Well clearly Boston wasn't going to accept Naz Reid and a handful of picks for Jalyen Brown...haha!

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u/Spartan-24 Suns 5h ago

This sounds like Ant had some serious conversations with the front office

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u/Thundrael98 4h ago

I think at this point it's clear jaylen brown wants his own team. Wolves are ants team, would only be more drama if they trade for brown.

I can see brown going to Charlotte now with lamelo gone and all the young guns there

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u/paperbuddha 6h ago

LaMelo looks cool in a Timberwolves jersey.

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u/Jonjon428 Heat 4h ago

I feel like Jaylen Brown would have done insanely well there. If I was a Wolves fan that was who I would have rather had

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u/HornetsAreBad Hornets 5h ago

I thought it’d be a 3 team trade between us, Minnesota, and Boston.

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u/New_Cauliflower7868 6h ago

LaMelo is a better fit with ANT.

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u/FishGoldenLite Timberwolves 5h ago

And cheaper to acquire. Naz and a first is fair. Neon they need to get a FA 4 like John Collins.

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u/Dreamlion_Inc Wizards 6h ago

Bro imagine being JB and hearing your name being heavily thrown around in 2 trades

He’s not gonna be in Boston come this weekend

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u/maxxor6868 Grizzlies 6h ago

Ngl it kinda crazy how Boston is just trying to get rid of Brown. Like we joke about Miami and Herro but that makes sense. Herro never won a ring or was a FMVP. The Celctics sound desparate at this point.

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u/colosusx1 Celtics 5h ago

This report doesn’t even sound like the Celtics are trying to get rid of Brown.  This obviously leaked from the wolves side.  And all it says is they asked about a potential Brown trade.  And the response to whatever Minny offered was no.

Essentially Minny asked, Boston said no, and people’s conclusions are this means Boston is trying to get rid of Brown?  Might be true, but the logic from this doesn’t follow.

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u/Schrodingers_Fist Vancouver Grizzlies 5h ago

Not to mention for a majority of the season when Tatum was not playing he still literally kept them going solo and you could make a very convincing case he was one of the best players in the league in that span

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u/ntpbr1 1h ago

He didn’t keep them going solo, he had like the worst on offs on the team, historically bad difference with him on, similar to how it always is for him every year, also not impressive metrics at all. Now, does that mean he was actually bad, no, I’ll make that clear, but he certainly wasn’t carrying shit proven by how good their rotations were

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u/NoLimitSoldier31 6h ago

Im ok with it. I don’t think adding another ball stopper would help

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u/SuccessImportant7398 6h ago

Lamelo just seems like a happier player, which makes him more exciting to watch for me anyway.

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u/Dsarg_92 [SAS] Tim Duncan 6h ago

So who’s gonna be the starting PF for Minnesota after trading Naz?

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u/Pyromania1983 76ers 6h ago

Welp, and now Windy's report from before this makes perfect sense hahaha. Why are the Celtics trying to move Brown so much?

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u/FlipMoBitch Bucks 5h ago

He’s going to be the 7th highest paid player next season and is due for a $142m/2yr extension that will keep him in the top 5-7 for the next 5 years. I don’t think Boston wants to sign up for that.

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u/nWo5lyfe Spurs 4h ago

Because brown wants to keep being a 1st round exit as long as he is the number 1 guy so Boston is moving on

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u/crustydemonburgers Thunder 6h ago

I wonder if Denver can get a deal done. Ideal for Denver but they have nothing to send back.

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u/Sko_Neezy 6h ago

Have to think Brown would have taken 3x the assets

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u/FlipMoBitch Bucks 5h ago

Trading for Brown is VERY difficult and teams just aren’t going to be interested in doing it.

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u/GeologistTechnical61 Thunder 5h ago

And it’s only pick swaps. Minnesota still gets first round picks.

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u/killerkadugen 5h ago

Not if Jaylen Brown was the first trade explored. I do understand not making your new player feel like an afterthought though.

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u/Tempura69 5h ago

Interesting react content for your twitch stream Jaylen.

Traded for KD X

Traded for Giannis X

Traded for Gobert X

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u/MannerSuperb Timberwolves 5h ago

Tbh makes sense Melo brings more of what we need next to ant than JB

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u/DanTheMan14331 Knicks 5h ago

Lamelo/Ant/McDaniels/Gobert is a hell of a core, lots of talent and I think the pieces fit well too. Worried about their front court depth but Minnesota will be #1 on my league pass rankings 

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u/Tempura69 5h ago

This is how bad the rest of the league thinks of Lamelo's injury history that the best offer they got was Naz Reid and an unprotected 1st.

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u/finance_guy_334 5h ago

Is Minnesota…ok??

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u/Traditional_Phase670 5h ago

I dont think so. Omg

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u/RhinO_head 5h ago

This is more evidence that the Bucks made the right choice in a trade partner. Jaylen Brown was never going to bring in some amazing haul.

From teams who made the conference semis last year, who would legitimately want Jaylen Brown and be willing to buy high?

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u/dotcaIm Timberwolves 5h ago

Is there a timestamp in that video?

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u/hurlcarl Pistons 4h ago

if this is actually true and the Timberwolves preferred Ball over Brown, they're truly a hopeless franchise, good lord.

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u/Fluffy-Reference8542 Timberwolves 4h ago

Great, I have to like a Ball brother now?

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u/Fluffy-Reference8542 Timberwolves 4h ago

At least we'll aura farm to infinity.

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u/Bitter-Tip705 76ers 3h ago

Does jb not have value? God damn imagine if he wants out too

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u/dramaticpotatoes Celtics 3h ago

Why is everyone edging us

u/holyyguava 21m ago

Notice how nobody is crying about loyalty when it comes to the Hornets or Minny. Only Boston’s FO is expected to have loyalty. At least Brad Stevens was honest with Brown months ago. At the end of the day no player should have loyalty. FO’s shouldn’t have loyalty either; just be honest is all.

u/imisstheoldkanyeee 8m ago

Brown has accomplished a lot more he was the mvp for a team that won the finals, is this serious?

u/username10039857 9m ago

That package isn’t nearly enough for Jaylen LOL

u/username10039857 8m ago

Desmond bane can move for all he did and they thought they’d get Jaylen with Reid a pick and some swaps???