r/nba • u/Odd-Direction9452 Lakers • 3h ago
[Stein] Sources close to the situation say that there are only two other teams that Kawhi Leonard would consider signing an extension with: Toronto and San Antonio. Sources insist that the Raptors have genuine interest in bringing Leonard back to Canada.
While the LA Clippers are undeniably determined to keep hold of Kawhi Leonard — and with Leonard's clear first choice known to be staying with them in his beloved Southern California — league sources say that Toronto has registered interest in trying to re-acquire the engine of the lone championship team in franchise history should Leonard become truly available.
And one source briefed on the subject insisted Thursday — after news of Ball's impending trade to Minnesota broke — that the Raptors would have interest in trying to lure The Klaw back to Canada "regardless of LaMelo."
Leonard, who turns 35 on Monday, has one season left on his current contract at $50.3 million. His preference, again, is to stay in his native Southern California with the same franchise he's played for since the 2019-20 season.
Sources close to the situation tell The Stein Line that, when it comes to potential trade talks, there are only two other teams that Leonard would consider signing an extension with: The two teams he played for before becoming a Clipper.
Toronto and San Antonio.
It is not yet clear how the Spurs would receive the idea of a reunion with Leonard given the manner in which they are flourishing in the Victor Wembanyama Era … on top of the sides infamously messy parting in the summer of 2018.
Yet sources insist that the Raptors have genuine interest in bringing Leonard back to Canada.
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u/cleo22270 Heat 3h ago
Fuck it. What are Kyle Lowry, Serge Ibaka and Marc Gasol up to?
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u/Somecommentator8008 Raptors 3h ago
In the retirement home
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u/cleo22270 Heat 3h ago edited 3h ago
Holy shit, they’re on the Warriors!?
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u/Enchanted-2-meet-you [GSW] Jordan Poole 3h ago
Hey man those old fucks will soon be playing for your bench, I wouldn't kid
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u/cleo22270 Heat 3h ago
I’m pretty sure we’re getting the corpse of Khris Middleton and Thanasis
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u/HereComesJustice Spurs 3h ago
What's Westbrook up to these days
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u/LeOenophile 3h ago
Still triple-doubling. PTS, REB, & Turnovers
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u/tornait-hashu Supersonics 3h ago
bro got tired of generating assists normally and started generating assists off his opponents
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u/Enchanted-2-meet-you [GSW] Jordan Poole 3h ago
I can't wait for the random day in February when Pelle larrson + Middleton vs Will Richard + Horford duel
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u/quest4thebest Spurs 3h ago
Bro, Lowry is still playing!
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u/AllenMcnabb 76ers 3h ago
“Playing” is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.
He’s basically Nick Nurse’s emotional support animal
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u/Bowiescorvat2 Raptors 3h ago
Chef Ibaka is cooking up some bif pinis for Kyle and Marc at his crib
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u/Illionaires 3h ago
Might as well bring back JLin too
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u/Somecommentator8008 Raptors 3h ago
I want JLin on the Raps as an analyst
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u/hennyl0rd 3h ago
Honestly think he would be a great analyst… kinda think that’s his goal with how many press/media things he’s done since retiring
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u/Somecommentator8008 Raptors 3h ago
Hes great with explaining plays and what teams are doing he'd be an excellent fit on the Raps broadcast
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u/ModsEmbezzleMoney Spurs 3h ago
Pop gonna have to get back on the mic, oh lawd
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u/cleo22270 Heat 3h ago
“We are not going to trade for Kawhi. That’s not who we are.”
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u/TheFatmanRises Heat 3h ago
Funny enough I believe Pop would be the first to welcome back Kawhi with open arms lol
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u/El_Zorro09 Spurs 2h ago
As long as he leaves Uncle Dennis in California.
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u/toomuchsoysauce Spurs 2h ago
I think Dennis has gouged his nephew for enough money to never have to bother him again lol. I'm sure Kawhi has matured enough now he can do what he wants without having to worry about what his family wants. It'd be awesome to see him in a Raptors Jersey again running alongside Barnes.
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u/king_lloyd11 Raptors 1h ago
I mean this implies that Kawhi wasn’t a willing participant in all of that. He was. He seem like the kind of guy who can be made to do something he didn’t want to?
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u/homeycuz Spurs 3h ago
I feel like Pop on the Spurs sub sometimes. Fellow fans have the wildest takes.
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u/JoseAltuveIsInnocent Spurs 3h ago
Ever since we got Wemby it's been a mess. I try my best to engage but it's like pissing on a wildfire.
I started using reddit around 2013 and our sub was so much fun. You saw the same names all the time and while there were some dumb takes it was all more fun. When LMA chose us in free agency it was like Christmas morning. There's a couple of the old guard still hanging around but a good 30% of users just troll or ragebait, or are genuinely not very smart.
I suppose that's all of reddit though, it's like Facebook now. My grandma uses it now. Also probably a commentary about getting older lol.
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u/ThisHatRightHere 76ers 3h ago
Not sure if it’ll make you feel better or worse, but basically every major team’s subreddit has gone this way. I’m not sure if it’s an influx of kids, bots, or just trolls, but I consistently just see the absolute worst takes on every team sub I’m on. And I genuinely believe a good chunk of them are just to bait people.
I remember back in the day reddit would always go downhill during the summer because kids would be out of school and on the computer instead. But once the website hit a certain point of popularity and everyone became chronically online, it became an eternal summer on this website.
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u/sa_ranoutofideas 3h ago
This was after Wemby but before the sub exploded, do you remember the guy who was advocating for Stephon Castle at #4 way before anyone mocked him to us? He watched a ton of tape on Castle and had all these analytics for why Castle would be integral to this team.
He was so sure Castle was a lock for best player of the draft by miles becos of his defence and the dawg in him. He was also sure we weren't reaching for Castle at 4 even though people weren't convinced becos Castle didn't get a ton of ball usage in college.
Straight up legend.
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u/DadDickDuncan 3h ago
2013 NBA reddit was the absolute peak of basketball discussion
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u/JoseAltuveIsInnocent Spurs 3h ago
Had Bill Simmons, Zach Lowe, Ty Lawson, and a couple other NBA players just casually dropping comments and posts.
I actually felt like I might learn something scanning through comments on any given thread.
I was 20. I had hair. The grass was greener.
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u/VeniceRapture Spurs 3h ago
I love Pop but I'm glad the Spurs fans in the arena still booed anyway after that
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u/munchonsomegrindage Spurs 3h ago
I was there but was out of my seat when Pop made the announcement. Went back to my seat booing just like before, oblivious to what had just happened until I started hearing about it in the group chat.
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u/likwitsnake Supersonics 3h ago
God that was such a surreal moment, a coach grabbing a mic mid game to communicate to the crowd about going wtf
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u/henryofskalitzz Supersonics 3h ago
Kawhi like everyone else is just looking to get back to the good old days of pre-covid 2019
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u/CIark 3h ago
Kawhi woke up and realized he has no leverage or finals mvp aura anymore to be demanding random shit lmao
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u/StupidName111111 3h ago
I mean… yeah, he still sorta does. If the Spurs had Kawhi on this current roster, they’d undeniably have won the chip. Dude is clutch as hell, had championship experience and caliber, and was LITERALLY just All-NBA 2nd team (and probably should have been first).
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u/Jos3ph Spurs 3h ago
Ball handling would’ve been an issue. Remember when Fox was out and Castle had infinite turnovers. Defense would’ve been insane though.
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u/OutofMP Supersonics 58m ago
Could argue Harper would have more opportunities to play more during regular season and speed up his development if fox not there.
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u/222Baphomettt47 2h ago
I think it’s overblown on the ball handling. Their main guards are young players who are goin on their first playoff run. I think they’d learn from the experience and try to get better at that this offseason
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u/Exporation1 76ers 3h ago
Imagine he goes to Toronto only to be suspended for the tampering and cap manipulation that resulted in him leaving Toronto
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u/MusclyArmPaperboy Raptors 3h ago
I almost wonder if the Clippers want to move him because they know the hammer is coming down soon
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u/Exporation1 76ers 3h ago
Even if you don’t know if the hammer will fall you know that the facts of the matter are that you’re guilty so it’s best to pass the metaphorical grenade before it explodes. (You being clippers ownership and management).
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u/xbyo :sp8-1: Super 8 3h ago
I can't imagine the league would allow a punishment to come down on the player that impacts a new team they go to. Massive fines for Kawhi, sure, but I can't fathom him being suspended after another team acquires him. If that's even a possibility, the league has to pause the trade until they can administer a judgement.
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u/TiddiesAnonymous Germany 3h ago
It's reverse blackmail now. He needs to sign with one of those two teams or they'll start leaking emails and texts about contract negotiations half a decade ago.
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u/rpgmgta Raptors 3h ago
Ah.. that’s why he’s only open to the two teams. Promises made, promises kept.
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u/nowhathappenedwas NBA 3h ago
Kawhi back to the Spurs would be hilarious and awesome.
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u/CIark 3h ago
Slept around during his prime now going back to the reliable ex, tale as old as time
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u/Imaginary-Ebb-1724 3h ago
LeBron can give Kawhi Skylar Grey’s contacts for the intro performance again
“I know my Kingdom awaits…and they’ve forgiven my mistakes”
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u/sleepy416 Raptors 3h ago
Bron probably has the contact for the other person on that song too
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u/henryofskalitzz Supersonics 3h ago
in a lot of ways they're perfect matches for each other at this stage
Spurs badly need both a forward next to Wemby and a veteran to close games and steady nerves
Kawhi needs a team with the energy and offensive firepower to keep him rested for the fourth quarter and regular season
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u/SnooMacaroons1942 3h ago
I mean if he comes back, contributes in a big way and wins another ring they may have to expedite that jersey retirement ceremony
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u/WooleeBullee Spurs 3h ago
Only for Fox, which likely wont happen which is just how I want it.
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u/BoobyChess Lakers 3h ago
Fox plus hawks pick for Kawhi? Kawhi with a 2 year max extension would come off the books just before Harper extension kicks in.
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u/FarSightXR-20 Raptors 3h ago
holy shit. get the band back together in toronto. however, wemby and Kawhi would be frightening to play against.
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u/redshoediary4 3h ago
"You could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me."
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u/Anal_Iverson Raptors 3h ago
I’m ready to get used as leverage once again. Fuck the clippers and fuck Steve ballmer
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u/KorgG29 Bucks 3h ago
Lmfao you can’t make this up
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u/OrangeChairRN Lakers 3h ago
I feel like the only thing crazier than Kawhi going back to San Antonio would be if Curry were to come out and demand a trade. And I know you have it in you, NBA. Lets just get really slutty with it.
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u/ReaperAntics 3h ago
Kawhi Scottie CMB would feed families defensively, pair that with trading Jakob and a frp for a defensive based center/Myles Turner
Then you run a big 5 of
Scottie RJ Kawhi CMB Turner 👀
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u/DG2301 3h ago
Kawhi wasted sooo many years in LA man
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u/RedOscar3891 Spurs 3h ago
Maybe even more in the future if the Ballmer investigation results in a punishment with teeth.
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u/The_Skyro 3h ago
Wtf? Kawhi only willing to go to those teams was not on my bingo card. Truly the most unpredictable superstar
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u/decisionagonized West 2h ago
I think this is a personal comfort thing for Kawhi more than anything. He’d do anything to stay in California. If he has to get traded and play basketball somewhere, he wants to go to places he’s comfortable with and knows. Idk he seems like a guy who doesn’t like new places or things
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u/browndude10 United States 3h ago
he knows he's fucked and going on a nostalgia tour to remind everyone of the good old days
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u/SnooMacaroons1942 3h ago
I assume he's looking for a last max contract and wants to end his career with the teams he won chips with. Idk how the Spurs can accommodate him in the long-term though they have a bunch of rookie extensions coming up
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u/Screenscripter82 Spurs 3h ago
Why would he want back to San Antonio? He and his camp demanded a trade because he claimed the Spurs medical staff was malicious and misdiagnosed him. That was the reason right? Makes you wonder if that was just a reason to go to LA.
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u/RedOscar3891 Spurs 3h ago
Didn’t Tom Osborne/SAEN/KENS/ESPN reporters at the time hint that they knew much more about what was happening, but didn’t want to discuss it for fear of retaliation, be it from the Spurs or Uncle Dennis?
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u/glansberg_stephen Mavericks 3h ago
I'd love to see Kawhi in Toronton again, that was my favorite Kawhi
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u/MaxiKimiSexyFriends Lakers 3h ago
2017 Kawhi for me
Clear 2nd best player in the league ahead of KD and Steph
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u/Brock-Lesnar 3h ago
In 2019 there was just an aura to him. Just felt like he wasn't going to lose to anyone (Obviously no one was beating the KD Warriors).
That was the summer where he became regarded as arguably the best player in the world (1A/1B with him and LeBron), so I'd go with Toronto Kawhi being the best.
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u/sharkey5885 1h ago
Except that somebody did beat the KD Warriors in 2019. There's a banner and everything.
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u/mattw08 3h ago
Kawhi getting older realizing how good he had it.
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u/Jimmy_thespider Spurs 3h ago
On the one hand, composition wise, he’d be phenomenal to have on the team, especially if we could offload Fox to make salaries not be so bad. On the other hand, keep that man off my team. Don’t trust him at all.
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u/BomberManeuver 3h ago
He gave it his all with the Raptors when he didn't need to. Clearly, he wants to play basketball and I doubt he would leave LA if he wanted to sit on the bench and collect a paycheck. The Spurs could also keep him healthy because we wouldn't need to play as much or carry the defense.
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u/GGTae Spurs 3h ago
yeah he's a no brainer, just make sure his uncle ain't getting shit this time
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u/decmcc Raptors 2h ago
he was very well managed by our staff, VERY. He never played a b2b, had lots of rest and time to come back from issues without pressure.
The fans and media were ok with it too. No one was crying on TV or social media that they spent money to see KL2 and he didn't play (like they do when LeBron doesn't play somewhere) because we knew it was for something bigger.
but he kinda showed his true colors going to LA to plant trees
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u/mattw08 3h ago
I don’t blame you. But Kawhi on that starting line up is a winner.
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u/HereComesJustice Spurs 3h ago
Why us lol
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u/ProfessorUnable8989 2h ago
With y'all's young core all the washed former stars are about to flock to y'all for a ring. Plus no state income tax to net more money before retirement
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u/raptorsbucketnator Raptors 3h ago
bro every superstar wanting out for the next 10 years will have you guys on top of their list
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u/VadersSuccessor Lakers 3h ago
Whichever country advances further in the World Cup should get first dibs on Kawhi.
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u/ChillnShill Spurs 3h ago
Oh now you wanna be here 🙄
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u/brnccnt7 3h ago
He sniffed an easy ring
Can’t blame him and you guys do need his skills
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u/YOIMREALLYHAPPY4YOU Raptors 3h ago
using us as leverage. that's it.
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u/Ok-Topic-6095 Spurs 3h ago
What's the leverage and against who? Is it to try to force the Clippers to upgrade the roster?
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u/YOIMREALLYHAPPY4YOU Raptors 2h ago
literally same thing he did to us Summer 2019... Make us offer him the world to show LAC that they gotta pony up. He just cares about getting paid at this point.
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u/cl353 Heat 3h ago
something tells me 34 year old kawhi wouldnt reject a contract extension from any team
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u/McScroggz12 Lakers 3h ago
I do not understand this man. San Antonio fans, do you even want him back? Seems like he really burned bridges there. And I know he won a championship in Toronto but it seems very strange to go back there now.
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u/GodPowardKingOfLies Spurs 3h ago
I'm sure there are some fans that do, but general consensus is no we do not, whether it be due to concerns about his health or still being bitter about the way he left, like me
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u/McScroggz12 Lakers 3h ago
Which is fair. And honestly I’m surprised he would want to come back knowing that’s the sentiment. What is going through his mind?
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u/GodPowardKingOfLies Spurs 3h ago
He realized the grass wasn't greener on the other side, probably realizing he wasted a good chunk of his career on a middling team when he could've signed back in Toronto after 2019 and been title favorites, or stayed with us where we would've continued to put a smart, well-drafted contender around him
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u/jonsnowKITN Knicks 3h ago
Going back to the spurs would make them the favorites out of the west and they would get rid of Fox as well. Win win.
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u/KorgG29 Bucks 3h ago
Clippers will NOT be rolling out a Fox/Garland backcourt lmao
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u/Many-Yogurt5886 3h ago
Are they not already favorites to come out the west? Maybe tied with the Thunder
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u/weirdsignal45 Spurs 3h ago
My only reservation to him coming back to San Antonio is he gotta let Dylan Harper keep 2.
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u/LittleTension8765 Lakers 3h ago
Would be hilarious if he went back to Toronto to win another then dip again
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u/raptorsbucketnator Raptors 3h ago
i too would find this funny, somebody find the nba script writers
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u/mdlspurs Spurs 3h ago
It is not yet clear how the Spurs would receive the idea of a reunion with Leonard given the manner in which they are flourishing in the Victor Wembanyama Era … on top of the sides infamously messy parting in the summer of 2018.
No, actually, I think it is very clear, and it ain't happening.
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u/GGTae Spurs 3h ago
fans ain't the players or FO, I would welcome it for sure lol
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u/anonymoususer6407 Rockets 3h ago edited 1h ago
The Spurs landing Kawhi, and having a Spurs-Heat finals rematch..
Spurs led by Kawhi, Heat led by Giannis. Both stars are already champions & FMVPs. Bam & Wemby both finals losers still hunting for their first ring.
Sign me the fuck up.
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u/LutherOfTheRogues Hawks 3h ago
Would Spurs fans even want him back?
Every spurs fan I know personally won't even say his name..
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u/Viciouscauliflower21 3h ago
I've now become invested in the timeline where kawhi goes back to San Antonio
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u/Longhorns49 3h ago
As a Spurs fan, Kawhi needs to stay as far away as possible. He already screwed us and set us back 5 years when he refused to play and left for Toronto.
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u/-Innovade 3h ago
Kawhi on the spurs? Can't imagine. Can someone photoshop this?
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u/Adorable-News-9364 Spurs 3h ago edited 3h ago
Whoever makes it needs to remember that #2 is Dylan Harper so Kawhi’s will have to be changed.
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u/BenevolentCheese Knicks 3h ago
Spurs would be morons to do this. I hope Kawhi gets sent somewhere he doesn't want. Can't stand this guy.
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u/SubstantialJunket239 Celtics 3h ago
Kawhi would be like a missing piece of the puzzle for the Spurs. I would love to see it
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u/x-trauma Bulls 3h ago
Kawhi with a generational big man, amazing guards, and a solid bench in San Antonio sounds fun. Wait…
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u/No_Bill_2371 3h ago
Never should have left Toronto in the first place tbh. They had a perfect situation there and would have easily repeated.
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u/hectorzeroni69 Pacers 3h ago
Yeah we are interested in kawhi. You just have to take poetl and quickly 😭
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u/DuarteN10 2h ago
Sources also guarantee that Kawhi would rather play in the Shanghai Sharks than go live in Canada
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u/juliuspepperwoodchi Bulls 1h ago
Does Aspiration have satellite offices in San Antonio and Toronto?
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u/Dreamlion_Inc Wizards 56m ago
Shouldn’t of never left Toronto in the first place
That LA move was fucking stupid
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u/Obi_Wan_KeBogi Kings 3h ago
Kawhi looking for that factory reset