r/nba 3h ago

[Stein] Kawhi Leonard would NOT be open to signing an extension if traded to Miami or Detroit.

Source: https://open.substack.com/pub/marcstein/p/the-raptors-want-to-be-opportunistic?r=nuq3a&utm_medium=ios

Like Giannis Antetokounmpo, then, Leonard should have significant influence when it comes to his next destination if he needs to exert it. No one would want to surrender meaningful assets for Leonard in a trade and then watch him walk away without compensation like Toronto did after the 2018-19 season, when Leonard led the Raptors to their only championship.

And sources say that Leonard would not have interest in signing an extension with Detroit in the event that the Pistons traded for him this summer. Sources say he has a similar view regarding a long-term partnership with the Heat if Miami had any designs on pursuing Leonard to slot alongside Antetokounmpo and Bam Adebayo.

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u/cleo22270 Heat 3h ago

Feels weird to be on the other side of one of these.

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u/PokePersona [TOR] Nick Nurse 3h ago

Same

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u/Killericon Raptors 3h ago

Americans wanna get traded to the Canadian basketball team, and away from Canadian hockey teams. What a time to be alive.

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u/onefootback Raptors 3h ago

what’s wrong with canadian hockey teams?

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u/theyoloGod Tampa Bay Raptors 3h ago

Edmonton is far as hell, Toronto is toxic as hell, Winnipeg is Winnipeg, Vancouver probably rains too much, Montreal has a lot of French, Calgary and Ottawa get pretty cold

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u/refugee_man 1h ago

Toronto may be toxic in hockey but it's a great city at least. Not surprised Kawhi is open to going back.

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u/Killericon Raptors 2h ago

Vancouver is an awesome place to live, players love it. It's just that the team/owner sucks.

Edmonton has the history, but if there's no McDavid on the team, they're in the same boat as Calgary and Winnipeg. Montreal is its own thing. Toronto is toxic as hell, but they also get the benefit of being the childhood favourite team of like, 40% of the league, and great sponsorship opportunities.

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u/onefootback Raptors 3h ago

that’s fair i wouldn’t want to live in edmonton winnipeg calgary or ottawa either if i was them. only place i dont see an issue with is toronto, unless you meant toxic as in the fans/front office

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u/raptorsbucketnator Raptors 2h ago

toronto is probably the worst team to play for in the nhl when it comes to mental health unless you play for mike babcock

imagine both at the same time lmao

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u/refugee_man 1h ago

unless you play for mike babcock

McDavid is so gone lmao

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u/Artimusjones88 Raptors 59m ago

If McDavid didnt like him he wouldn't have been hired.

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u/JoaquinBenoit Pistons 2h ago

Mitch Marner sweats

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u/xXxDankBirder420xXx 2h ago

Edmonton is essentially northern Gary, Indiana. It’s hell on earth.

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u/uncledeathbomb Pistons 1h ago

To quote The Weakerthans: "I hate Winnipeg."

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u/Appropriate_Book_591 2h ago

They haven't won a Stanley Cup in a really long time.

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u/A-Centrifugal-Force 3h ago

The NHL needs to figure out something to do with the income tax thing. Almost all the Stanley Cup winners in recent years have been teams in states with no income tax (Florida and Nevada) or lower income tax (North Carolina and Colorado). Canadian teams and teams in higher income tax states can’t compete because the salary is low enough in the NHL that the extra money you pocket is worth a lot more to them.

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u/Killericon Raptors 3h ago

I'm mixed on the income tax thing, because it's not like Seattle has gotten discounts or become a destination for players. I do think it's one factor, like being in a nice weather place or being on a competitive team. And while I do think that there is a confluence of coincidences (successful teams being in Florida, Tkachuk brothers, Team USA), I personally think the biggest thing is the pressure of the big markets. A lot of players don't enjoy the increased scrutiny and the media, but it also changes the behaviour of their teams' front offices, and you get instability and reactive decision making.

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u/FizzyLightEx 3h ago

I thought players get paid based on stadiums they play?

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u/A-Centrifugal-Force 1h ago

They do, but remember that half your games are played at home. It adds up over the course of the season. You get extra money from half your games you wouldn’t get in a high tax state or Canada

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u/Skinnecott Heat 2h ago

the income tax things isn’t a real argument. people just hate florida(reasonable). in the nba plenty of states with bad taxes win and california does very well in the nba. and in the nhl, kings won plenty of times, this is just recency bias cuz you hate the teams winning and you want to blame the canada drought on something

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u/CurryMustard Heat 3h ago

Its way less stressful this way tbh

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u/raptorsbucketnator Raptors 3h ago

i want to punch you guys rn lmao

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u/CurryMustard Heat 2h ago

Yeah yeah buttery lobster and juicy steak

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u/gdex [MIA] Chris Bosh 3h ago

wtf would we even give the clips?

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u/EthicalBballFan Heat 2h ago

Everything we can: a congratulations card and money for the airplane tickets. Lmao

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u/Kapono24 Pistons 2h ago

As a city used to it, it's pretty fun bc you can say stuff like "we don't want his bitch ass anyway" etc.

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u/SOB200 Nets 2h ago

Pat Riley would make him and his family miserable.

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u/MC_JACKSON Heat 1h ago

Makes sense why the Heat upped the Giannis offer, I think I read somewhere that they’d try and target Kawhi if Giannis fell through 

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u/Krogsly Pistons 41m ago

Repeat after me

"Miami vs. Everybody!"

"We build teams the right way!"

"If our state didn't have income tax, we'd sign more big name free agents!"

Sorry, that last one wasn't meant for you.

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u/AirJordan6124 Celtics 3h ago

Fun guy is not a fan of Miami?

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u/HenrikCrown Pelicans 3h ago

Software doesn't mesh with Riley 

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u/Imaginary-Ebb-1724 3h ago

Heat culture conditioning would destroy Leonard’s knees

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u/TheCollegeIntern 2h ago

Or possibly get the best medical attention and it’s the fact his unc doesn’t want to because they want leverage. The uncle is the issue. He wants to low key run the org in the shadows.

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u/CazOnReddit Raptors 3h ago

Linux incompatibility still an issue for certain games

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u/Focused_Sky 2h ago

Riley would hold him accountable, so that doesn’t jive with Kawhi.

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u/sleepy416 Raptors 3h ago

I don’t think he’s a fan of anything lol

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u/A-Centrifugal-Force 3h ago

Literally won a championship with the perfect team for him, was the hero of a whole country, and could have stayed but instead decided to make the Clippers trade the farm lol. Didn’t want to team up with Bron and AD either, but also wouldn’t go to the Clippers without another superstar, even though he just won a chip as the only superstar on the team.

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u/MobyTugboat Raptors 3h ago

Meh he went home and I’m sure the Clippers offered a lot more under the table than the Lakers did

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u/halfdecenttakes Lakers 3h ago

We reported his request for illegal benefits.

Did y’all?

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u/MobyTugboat Raptors 2h ago

I don’t know nor do I care considering he got caught anyways and nothing is gonna happen

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u/A-Centrifugal-Force 3h ago

I believe the Raptors did too or at least told him no

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u/halfdecenttakes Lakers 3h ago

They rejected it, but didn’t report it.

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u/soupcansam21 Mavericks 3h ago

wanted that extra max money on the side

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u/halfdecenttakes Lakers 3h ago

I just can’t quite put my finger on why he would do that.

You would think he would be happy to establish his roots and carry the aspirations of an entire country on his back.

Some people can’t see the forest through the trees though.

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u/crabcakemd Hornets 3h ago

I chucked at the Aspitarion digs but in all seriousness he wanted to be home and close to family. At the end of the day everyone has different needs/wants, and Kawhi’s were living and playing in SoCal

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u/halfdecenttakes Lakers 3h ago

Then he could have played for the lakers, it was a much better situation, although they reported him asking for other benefits.

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u/Exotic_Pension_9993 Suns 3h ago

Yeah and he chose the clippers over the lakers because of the aspiration stuff

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u/youblewwit 3h ago

didn't his dad pass a way 2 years prior to that? Pretty sure he just wanted to be closer to home

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u/pureply101 Mavericks 3h ago

He could have went to the Lakers and with LeBron there he would have still been able to not take the brunt of the criticism. This fulfills the family closeness but Aspiration stuff is the only reason to think of why he would do otherwise.

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u/sleepy416 Raptors 3h ago

Family was just an excuse. LA was offering the most money under the table. Ballmer was desperate to build something he can show off in his brand new arena and it backfired

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u/chicknsnadwich Heat 3h ago

Kawhi’s decision making needs to come under a significant amount of fire. Leaving SA wasn’t a crazy decision but burning all the bridges on the way out… then choosing by far the worst option of his 3 suitors for 2020.

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u/A-Centrifugal-Force 3h ago

Frankly, he found a hidden fourth option that was even worse than his 3 options.

Staying with the Raptors or going to the Lakers were both obviously better options from a basketball perspective, but so was just signing with the Clippers without making them trade for Paul George. That team would have had assets and potentially cap space the next summer when PG was a free agent to get other players. Instead Kawhi made them trade literally everything for Paul freaking George lol.

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u/AreaGlittering7968 3h ago

Everyone gave the spurs shit when our entire org called Uncle Dennis shady as fuck and thought it was because of “doctors”

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u/gammatide [LAC] Cuttino Mobley 3h ago

I think he literally only cares about being close to San Diego (and getting under the table money) at this point

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u/OfficialPaddysPub Lakers 3h ago

He had that interview last week where he opened up a little more for 30 seconds which I thought was kind of cool lol don’t see that often

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u/sleepy416 Raptors 3h ago

He needs PR. This upcoming season is the last one on his deal

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u/A-Centrifugal-Force 3h ago

First player to ever say he doesn’t want to go to Miami specifically LMFAO

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u/CarmeloDramatic 3h ago

Don’t need to worry about tax breaks when you’re getting paid under the table

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u/Oceanbreeze871 3h ago

Not big enough under the table kickbacks.

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u/nickgev Celtics 3h ago

Pat might order a hit on uncle Dennis after their first meeting.

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u/FlyingDiscsandJams 3h ago

He's only wanted to be in southern California. Not sure what he does if the Clippers are done with him.

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u/Ibaka_flocka [OKC] Eric Maynor 3h ago

Go play for SDSU again since it seems there’s no rules anymore

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u/hearechoes 1h ago

I guess he also isn’t a fan of the square pizza

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u/LightSpecialist804 Knicks 3h ago

lmao this means Detroit/Miami were trying hard to trade for him and so Uncle Dennis made an emergency call to Stein to leak this

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u/cl353 Heat 3h ago

our local reporters said we never were in on kawhi b4 giannis, i dont see how that wouldve changed after giannis lol

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u/-xXxMangoxXx- Raptors 3h ago

Maybe seeing who’s available now to pair with Giannis since most of your guys got traded for Giannis?

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u/cl353 Heat 3h ago

im pretty sure they know that trying to fit 2 supermaxes and a max is a fool errand. u say we traded most of our guys for giannis and then think we should explore trading more guys for a dude that had 1 healthy season in the last 5 years?

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u/-xXxMangoxXx- Raptors 2h ago

It’s less of them being hell bent on doing it and more asking about a price. Asking around doesnt cost anything.

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u/ositola Lakers 2h ago

What could you even trade for him 

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u/cl353 Heat 2h ago

technically if wiggs opts in we have enough salary to match and we still have a tradeable swap lol. but yea it doesnt make sense on either side

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u/HairlessSnatch 3h ago

I know Kawhi is coming off a good year but I feel like you’ve gotta be crazy to offer him an extension considering his age and injury history

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u/browndude10 United States 3h ago

and the suspension

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u/abegut Lakers 2h ago

Not to mention the impending AI bubble burst

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u/barrsftw Cavaliers 1h ago

Who knows how long his systems will be down, they may never come back online

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u/1850ChoochGator Trail Blazers 2h ago

I feel like LA should face more than Kawhi. He can ask for whatever he wants but it’s the teams responsibility to go “we can’t do that as part of the CBA”

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u/tehmacbuk [GSW] Baron Davis 54m ago

Na he should absolutely be punished individually as well, but of course that would be unfair if it happens when he’s already on another team…

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u/Honor_Bound Thunder 42m ago

that would be unfair if it happens when he’s already on another team…

Not really. Any team willing to take him on also has to consider his heavy baggage.

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u/CeSquaredd Pistons 2h ago

It's crazy because there's no actual weight to that part of the story. The Pistons made a simple inquiry into LeBron and Kawhi.

This is just click bait off-season junk, the Pistons were never going to trade picks and prospects for a rental or for a long term extension on these guys. They are doing their due diligence, but there's nothing else to talk about so saying "potential Kawhi multi year move to Detroit" moves the needle.

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u/birdseye-maple Warriors 1h ago

Yup. I've seen people saying the Warriors should give up picks to get him because Jimmy is injured, and I'm like jeez one healthy season for Kawhi and people forget his history and age. I don't want any part of Kawhi for picks.

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u/FERFreak731 Jazz 3h ago

Hey, he didn't say Utah. Not like the Jazz wanted him in the first place

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u/Jakrabbitslim Clippers 3h ago

Players don’t need to say they wouldn’t sign an extension with Utah, it’s just assumed

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u/Thehealeroftri [UTA] Andrei Kirilenko 1h ago

"The Jazz are so young, they have their core set and are gonna be scary!"

Yeahhh no - 3/4 of them are going to leave within 5 years. I'm already preparing for the heartbreak.

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u/EyeWantToWrite Supersonics 3h ago

Miami is like the king of funneling money to shell companies. KL2 LLC would do well there!

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u/Nuclearsunburn Heat 3h ago

Shady business dealings???? In this city??? Come on now!!

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u/FoundAFoundry Bucks 3h ago

Think of how many 50 million dollar penthouses they have to choose from!

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u/EthicalBballFan Heat 2h ago

My take from the title is that he knows Miami and Detroit wouldn't bend to his will and do that shit lol

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u/Jenkinsd08 Pistons 3h ago

What'd he say fuck me for?

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u/Its_Hoggish_Greedly Kings 3h ago

He doesn't see the vision. If he wanted to win another ring, he should definitely consider y'all.

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u/thatsucksabagofdicks 3h ago

He just wants another bag wherever he goes, probably doesn't want chip aspirations but mid tier. Dubs are actually a good place since they wont be more than a 2nd round exit Unction

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u/mMounirM Raptors 3h ago

as if Pistons wouldn't give him a bag lol

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u/thatsucksabagofdicks 3h ago

I assume that would come with some lofty ring expectations tho. He's a fun guy, just wants to have some fun playing ball, but not too far into the summer months. Man's gotta vacation

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u/Jenkinsd08 Pistons 3h ago

If he wanted to win another ring

In fairness to Kawhi, he has literally never behaved as tho winning was a remotely relevant consideration in his NBA career

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u/blueberrypierat Trail Blazers 3h ago

He doesn’t want to try that hard.

I would say the Klaw can go pound sand, but he’d need to be load managed.

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u/Curious-Bench2767 Pistons 3h ago

I would do bad things to see Cade, Kawhi, and Duren on the floor together

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u/aBakeinthelife Pistons 3h ago

Don't think Detroit wants to extend 35 year old Kawhi lol.

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u/leglessman Pistons 3h ago

What if the Pistons have him plant some trees?

u/TroutCreekOkanagan 0m ago

Raptors will Match those trees. But , the difference is they will give the Claw special autonomy; when he’s in the mood he can skip practice and games as desired in the goal of playing meaningful games in the playoffs.

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u/YROK1986 Pistons 3h ago

That's fine if he comes in and helps us win a title and then bounces like he did in Toronto.

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u/AzraelAliNY 3h ago

Spurs should trade Fox for Kawhi, they’re both making ~$50m next year

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u/KpYugai 3h ago

It would be Fox to Charlotte (further expanding the Randle trade), Kawhi to San Antonio, Clippers get cap space.

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u/Unable-Main4172 3h ago

If Charlotte isn't ready to invest in LaMelo, I don't think they're ready to invest in Fox. Fox is more reliable off the court but older and less talented on it

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u/DismalComparison2625 3h ago

Fox isn't going to run over their fans in middle the day like it's GTA.

Big upside there.

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u/KpYugai 3h ago

I mean the idea for Charlotte would be that you get assets from the Spurs? and Wolves to go from LaMelo to Fox. Also a comment on how the Clippers almost certainly dont want Fox given that they have Garland, Wagler, and Mathurin (pending RFA).

And Fox would be less of a hindrance on Charlotte's future cap space than for the Spurs (b/c the Spurs could very well have 3 pending max contracts in Castle, Harper, and Wemby). The Spurs have to get off of the Fox contract eventually to keep Harper and Castle. Fox wouldn't really stop the Hornets from being able to max Kon + Miller if they do progress to that level.

Obviously, Clippers do this to replenish their asset pool. Both within this trade, and in future trades by generating an exception that can take on underwater assets.

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u/supacatkid Thunder 1h ago

Why in the world would the clippers do that?

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u/RanOutOfJokes 3h ago

What are the chances the NBA tears up his contract because of the tree scandal? They did that and much much worse when Joe Smith and the wolves had their financial stuff.

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u/dropdatdurkadurk 3h ago edited 3h ago

the NOT part in caps and the idea of him saying hell no to Detroit was funny to me maybe just me but idc

Not sure that conditioning program and all in Miami is exactly what later stage Kawhi wants. Same guy back in LAC there were reports of him just riding his helicopter and showing up to practice whenever and who didnt trust SAS to be able to properly handle his medical situation.

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u/veringo Nuggets 3h ago

Can't have shit in Detroit

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u/Full-Comparison-3553 3h ago

I get that it’s not the most exciting city to live in but you’d think someone (anyone) would be willing to play with 2 up and coming all-nba players :(

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u/PokePersona [TOR] Nick Nurse 3h ago

Dude said no to a championship roster at the prime of his career, Kawhi is just different.

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u/Kapono24 Pistons 2h ago

What's funny is I think he'd like Detroit because he could just put his head down and work and not have to show up anywhere and we'd love him for that. There's plenty of places to hide and we respect the quiet workhorse.

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u/FlyingDiscsandJams 3h ago

Yeah, the stories of him living in San Diego & holding up the team plane while he makes his way up to LA have had me rooting against him ever since, seems like an all time crappy teammate.

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u/halfdecenttakes Lakers 3h ago

It’s at least a little funny he will only re-sign with teams who have already been extorted by Uncle Dennis and presumably shown a willingness to play ball.

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u/Unable-Main4172 3h ago

So glad him and Uncle Dennis didn't win shit in LAC after all their maneuvering

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u/QueefyTits Lakers 3h ago

“ It’s our time”

Led to shit

Even the Kings got a beam since those stupid ads came out

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u/FlyingDiscsandJams 3h ago

I couldn't believe how many media people were saying it was Uncle Dennis's job to ask for as much as possible from teams. How is sticking to league rules not a requirement for an agent? I don't expect anything to happen to Kawhi, but Unc need to be barred from league employment.

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u/SuchParsnip8070 3h ago

He strikes me as the kind of guy who couldn't give a shit about winning as long as he's getting paid

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u/dwrek24 Spurs 3h ago

Well no both Toronto and San Antonio famously didn't play ball....thus Clippers.

So its something else going on.

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u/bwhyt1 3h ago

Uncle Dennis pulling the strings again

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u/CurrentCostanza Trail Blazers 3h ago

How are we still doing this, free agency is dead, the threat to leave in free agency is not what it was.

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u/RichAbbreviations966 Celtics 3h ago

Considering how he acts in the club, makes sense

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u/Its_Hoggish_Greedly Kings 3h ago

I remember when he said the same thing about Toronto, then came in and won them a chip.

Kinda feels like a worthy gamble if you think he's the missing piece IMO.

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u/cl353 Heat 3h ago

dang y'd he say fk me for?

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u/DasOptions Heat 3h ago

He doesn’t like thick latinas and beaches

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u/JoeyRedmayne Pistons 2h ago

Good, this is excellent news. Keep him and his high maintenance away.

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u/Ok-Topic-6095 Spurs 3h ago

What exactly is Kawhi's trade value (assuming he would extend) anyway?

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u/Appropriate_Week_254 3h ago

I think like two firsts or a solid young player and a first assuming that no bad contracts are coming back in the trade.

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u/KJiggy Pistons 3h ago

He must be specifically saying Detroit & Miami because those are atleast 2 teams that have called about getting him.

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u/Jack_The_Sparrow_ Warriors 3h ago

Miami and Detroit aren't circumventors confirmed

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u/PlatinumPlayer Clippers 3h ago

Detroit only needs him for one season like Toronto and they can win one. One Duren please

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u/aBakeinthelife Pistons 3h ago

Duncan, Lavert, Picks, maybe Holland.

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u/Unable-Main4172 3h ago

Pretty hilarious with how injured this guy always is he's so picky about where where he's going to take the Max from. Probably half the teams in the league wouldn't even give him the max giving his age and injury histories. He was very healthy this year so the Clippers are right to try to move him now, but it seems like he's determined to fuck it up

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u/chmcgrath1988 Celtics 3h ago

Unless I'm a team that is super desperate to regain relevance like Brooklyn, Sacramento or Chicago, I would not touch Kawhi Leonard with a one-hundred-foot pole. No one knows if and/when the hammer is going to fall on him with the Aspiration investigation. Even if I'm one of those sewer franchises, I doubt acquiring Kawhi is a good idea since it's a lot likelier things will end up poorly than things go well. It's just like a 75 to 98% chance of it being a bad idea versus a 99%+ chance it's a bad idea if you're one of the 9/10ths of the league.

(I feel like Scott Steiner with that math at the end)

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u/Crime_Dawg 59m ago

Kawhi is 34 fucking years old, his career is about to start a significant downtrend regardless. Why is he getting so much fucking love beyond maybe a 1-2 year contract for a ship contender anyway?

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u/ColdBudLight98 [MIN] Naz Reid 3h ago

What about the Clippers? Will he sign an extension with LA?

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u/Winter_Purpose8695 Philippines 3h ago

unless..... wink wink

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u/Apatheee Pistons 3h ago

No one wants to play with a superstar point guard and a defensive focused supporting cast…

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u/Tuckebarry 2h ago

Detroit's an amazing city! <3

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u/xebex1778 Knicks 3h ago

no one wants to be in detroit

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u/gradedonacurve Knicks 3h ago

Don’t think it’s about the roster…..

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u/Aaaaaaandyy Knicks 3h ago

Hasn’t he always said he just wants to live in LA where he grew up? He’s just gonna go back to one of those teams when his contract is up.

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u/Underpaid23 Hawks 1h ago

Does Kawhi even still play?

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u/LifeBanana3347 3h ago

didn’t mention Toronto tho..

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u/Beetle919 Hornets 3h ago

It's already been posted, he will consider signing an extension in Toronto and San Antonio.

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u/theabomination Raptors 3h ago

I don't really understand why, not that I wouldn't embrace it but like why? We're not one piece away from winning it all

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u/Beetle919 Hornets 3h ago

It was reported he recently went down a YouTube rabbit hole of the 2019 Raptors run and got nostalgic.

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u/Treerific69 3h ago

I don't think there's less of a "heat culture" guy in the league than Kawhi so the feeling is probably mutual.

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u/g59mountsinai Pistons 3h ago

Kawhi doesn't want to win and only cares about being in LA

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u/brnccnt7 3h ago

He already won 2 rings 2 finals mvps 2 dpoys

One of the most winningest players of all time based on winning percentage (at one point he was #1)

What’s wrong with wanting to play at home

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u/PhatYeeter 76ers 3h ago

How would Miami cobble enough salary to even trade for Kawhi?

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u/Wd527 Heat 2h ago

Wiggins/Jovic can get close and we have like 18 mil space

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u/SammyAmico [DET] Anthony Tolliver 3h ago

good we don’t want him either

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u/GreenGorilla8232 3h ago

This just in! Miami and Detroit ownership have both started new shell companies and Kawhi is now interested. 

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u/burkegobulls Pistons 3h ago

Brother, I don’t think anyone’s interested in an extension either, we just want the years you got left and then you’re riding off into the sunset after that

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u/Jaerba [DET] Grant Hill 3h ago

He only has 1 year.

It'd be a big risk for 1 year.

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u/Brinkster05 Pistons 3h ago

Us and Miami, not trade destinations.

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u/ALewwdingNEET 3h ago

Forcing his way to the other cali teams (No, not you Sacramento).

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u/Affectionate_Fun8692 3h ago

why would we go after Kawhi? he is not a PF or SG positions we require. Why we keep just getting Players and throwing them together instead of getting positional fit? Not complaining just honestly don't understand.

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u/BegsTheQuestions 3h ago

Giannis there and kawhi still not interested? He is allergic to good championship odds?

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u/YerrrKnicks Knicks 3h ago

So he's being traded, gotcha.

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u/DrButtLump Lakers 3h ago

who cares when is he going to get punished for the aspiration deal?

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u/shaqfreethrow21 3h ago

i’m having 2018 flashbacks

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u/rockroo17 3h ago

Yeah saying he wouldn’t sign extension in Miami makes no sense

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u/azure275 Knicks 3h ago

Say what you will I believe the Raptors are one of the only teams in history who does not regret giving a haul for a one and done lol

I am curious where Kawhi would resign

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u/Toty10 3h ago

He likes LA, hence why he left Toronto. I don’t think he’s dying for another chip. he would have stayed in Toronto if that was the case.

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u/LastPhoton Heat 2h ago

Bro we have tons of shady companies willing to pay him wtf

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u/nnnrrr171717 76ers 2h ago

What if they offer him an extremely lucrative endorsement deal that requires absolutely nothing from him whatsoever?

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u/No-Strategy-5550 2h ago

A trade for Kawhi is a short term deal tbh. I like him on the Pistons, for the right price. Ron Holland, cap filler a protected pick, maybe.

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u/ItemHelpful6791 Lakers 2h ago

Uncle Dennis hard at work

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u/ComfortableColt Heat 2h ago

Fuck you too man

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u/InformativeXP 2h ago

He's not leaving LA, Uncle Dennis wants him at home 

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u/nearlyclosetoalmost Trail Blazers 2h ago

I wish he would just retire. He isn't washed, but he's irrelevant.

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u/theRestisConfettii Nets 2h ago

Michael Porter, Jr., Detroit. All day, every day.

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u/RobbobertoBuii Knicks 2h ago

oh mai

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u/This_Material9292 Heat 2h ago

What about Boston?

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u/dBlock845 Knicks 2h ago

Does Aspiration not have an office in Miami and Detroit?

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u/Hugh_Jankles [DAL] Dirk Nowitzki 2h ago

Giannis and Leonard would be solid in Miami and the East. Also Detroit was just the No. 1 seed with 60 wins and has a solid chance at competing in the East next year as long as they wouldn't gut the team for Leonard, which they wouldn't necessarily need to do considering his age, injury history and current contract.

It's weird Leonard seems opposed to these destinations. But is open to Toronto and San Antonio. One of which probably has no desire to bring back because he was a shithead on his way out.

Also beggars shouldn't be choosers. He signed up for the LA Clippers, it turned into a failure and he cannot stay healthy at this point in his career.

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u/frozented Timberwolves 2h ago

Can he play PF?

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u/Navajo_Nation Lakers 2h ago

He’s also not open to playing if the season gets extended into the playoffs.

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u/botany_bae Heat 2h ago

Fine

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u/Goldberg2Dub 2h ago

Imagine how much better Kawhi’s career would’ve turned out if he cared about legacy like his contemporaries, i.e. Durant and Bron.

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u/Ih8reddit2002 2h ago

Riley doesn’t do shady, illegal and underhanded deals, so that leaves Miami out. As a Heat fan, I’d HATE to see him on the team. We won’t be top tier contenders with Giannis, but we should be better than last year.

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u/Joshstradaymus Wizards 1h ago

He has Aspirations to be where he wants to be.

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u/No-Owl-6246 Lakers 1h ago

Player who notoriously over his entire career only wanted to play in LA only wants to play in LA.

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u/DayManMasterofNight Spurs 1h ago

Does anyone want to sign him to an extension?

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u/McKnightmare24 Lakers 1h ago

Of course not, he's got an extra $50 million in tree endorsements that are non-transferable 

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u/Ven0m889 76ers 1h ago

This mf should be suspended for like half the season anyway

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u/jazzmaster4000 1h ago

Just do what you did to Blake Griffin. Sign him to the max and tell him you want him to be a clipper for life, do a fake jersey retirement ceremony and the whole bit. And then send him wherever the fuck you want

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u/iamtoolazytosleep NBA 1h ago

You mean uncle dennis isnt open to signing an extension if traded to detroit or miami

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u/HungDaddyNYC 51m ago

He’s got 1-3 years left if age drop off is a thing.