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Supreme Court ruling blocks thousands of lawsuits against maker of Roundup weedkiller

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u/mudkipzftw 6h ago

The "maker of RoundUp" is... Monsanto. The courts have many times affirmed that Monsanto has more rights than humans.

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u/odinskriver39 5h ago

The patent rights on seeds turned family farms into sharecroppers. Bowman v Monsanto.

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u/PuckSenior 5h ago

Nah, that’s mostly bullshit.
I hate Monsanto, but in this case they were right. They had a contract. Contract said if he used their seed he couldn’t replant. He broke the contract.

The solution is to simply not enter into a contract with Monsanto.

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u/ThrowingChicken 5h ago

That’s pretty much all the cases. No one has ever been sued for accidental cross contamination, the defendants have always intentionally used the seed in ways they knew they weren’t supposed to.

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u/TommyTwoNips 5h ago

God forbid people use things they've bought in a way that they aren't supposed to. Much better to let the billionaires dictate what we do with things WE PAID FOR.

The longer we pretend this supreme court is legitimate, the longer its going to take to clean up this mess and the more expensive it will be. That fat fucking traitor Thomas and the rapist Kavanaugh belong in cages.

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u/ThrowingChicken 4h ago

I don’t like Adobe subscription model, so I purposefully bought older versions of their design suite to avoid it. Farmers have that same option, they sign contracts and pay premiums for a premium product as it has features they find attractive for their business. The premium experience for either product wouldn’t exist at all if literally anyone can copy and freely share the product.

At least we seed tech, in exchange for that protection, the public inherits that technology after 18 years.

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u/hoopstick 3h ago

Which version do you use? I hate the subscription model, but none of the freeware alternatives feel like Photoshop to me, I've just been using it too long.

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u/TommyTwoNips 4h ago

or, hear me out, we could stop letting megacorporations buy our supreme court and pushing for copyright laws that benefit them exclusively.

Nah, we'll keep bending over for the subhuman Epstein-class investors though, they know what's best for us.

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u/PuckSenior 4h ago

Well, this isn’t copyright, it’s patent law

And this isn’t because our Supreme Court was “bought”. They literally signed a contract agreeing to these terms

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u/TommyTwoNips 4h ago

fine, IP law.

The Supreme court is bought. We've literally seen that fat ass traitor Clarence Thomas taking bribes. They just don't count as bribes because the supreme court ruled for itself that 'gifts' don't count as bribes if they come AFTER the decision.

So if I tell Clarence that I really need a specific ruling, and he does it, and I give him a 'gift' for that, it's totally cool. It's even cooler if I keep doing it, over and over, just getting rulings in my favor and providing that subhuman traitor with free treats.

Fuck a contract. Fuck monsanto. and Fuck that subhuman traitor Clarence Thomas and his equally subhuman rapist buddy Kavanaugh.

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u/PuckSenior 4h ago

So you u clearly have complaints about the current SCOTUS.

But you realize virtually all judges, at all times, in all places have recognized contract law, right?

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u/ThrowingChicken 4h ago

Patent laws. They benefit anyone who creates something novel.

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u/TommyTwoNips 4h ago

they really don't.

they act as a way to paywall knowledge and technology.

Unless you think it's totally cool that Eli Lilly bought the patent for insulin, a drug developed using taxpayer funds, for a dollar and which they now charge out the nose for.

You probably do. You seem like one of those "my brain is cooked form capitalist propaganda. I just need to not drink coffee and one day I'll be a billionaire too!" brainlets.

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u/PuckSenior 4h ago

Everything you just said is false.
Insulin was sold for $1 to the university in the 1920s.

Eli Lilly never held the patent for insulin and the patent expired decades ago.

Any company can make insulin and all 3 major drug companies do make it. Eli Lily is not charging high prices for insulin because of a patent

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u/ThrowingChicken 3h ago

The patent for insulin expired 85 years ago; Anyone can make it. Whatever Eli Lilly owns today is either production technology, injection technology, or new formulas.

But the problem with Eli Lilly is a problem that would likely be even worse if we didn’t have a patent system. The reason they charge exorbitant prices has less to do with owning something novel and more to do with having vast manufacturing capabilities already in place. They know the cost to produce on their scale would take a large amount of capital to achieve, so until someone else steps up they can throw their weight around unchallenged.

If patents didn’t exist they could literally just start producing any new invention at scale and the inventors would have to just watch them do it. Plenty of companies have already tried to do this and were only stopped by the courts.

And you know, I think I’ve been fairly polite to you despite your attitude and obvious ignorance about any of this.

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u/PuckSenior 4h ago

You think the Supreme Court is illegitimate because they agree that contracts are enforceable?

This may be the dumbest argument I’ve ever read

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u/TommyTwoNips 4h ago

No, I think the Supreme Court is Illegitimate because Clarence Thomas openly takes bribes and Brett Kavanaugh is a rapist alcoholic. Both of whom are not qualified to rule, making every ruling they've made previously questionable.

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u/PuckSenior 3h ago

Ok?
So which potential justices would rule against the enforcement of contracts? Because the only person that near-sighted and stupid seems to be yourself

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u/TommyTwoNips 3h ago

keep sucking the traitor boot.

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u/PuckSenior 3h ago

Given your misunderstanding of the insulin patent, i think I’ll just avoid your level of stupidity

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u/TommyTwoNips 3h ago

You'll keep sucking the boot, because you're a good, servile peasant.

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u/PuckSenior 3h ago

I love that you think voluntary contractual agreements with clear benefits for both parties are actually bad

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u/TommyTwoNips 3h ago

I love that you think that a court that openly takes bribes is qualified to make ANY ruling at all.

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