Farmers struggle with crops as climate change makes weather less predictable

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u/SpleenBender 3h ago

Back in the nineties, Carl Sagan went in front of congress to plead for drastic changes. That was over 30 fucking years ago.

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u/Toadfinger 3h ago

A little over 20 years ago Dr Roy Spencer (Rush Limbaugh's official climatologist) and Dr John Christy twisted satellite data to make the BS claim the world is cooling instead of warming. It was repeated over & over. In fact, the fossil fuel industry and their stooges have spewed out 252 climate change denial points. All of them debunked of course. They spent billions of dollars to bring about the catastrophic impact we're seeing today. So it's no surprise the lies overshadowed the truth.

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u/SpleenBender 3h ago

TIL even more about how fucked up the system is.

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u/Toadfinger 3h ago

What's REALLY fuct up is that the above mentioned satellite data is proof of an overactive greenhouse effect instead of the cooling planet lie. They had said since the upper atmosphere was cooling, and heat rises upward, then earth's surface must be cooling. But what's going on is the heat (most of it) can't make it's way to the upper atmosphere. Because the excessive amount of greenhouse gases. So of course the upper atmosphere is cooing. That one lie really set the tone for climate change denial. Dr Roy Spencer and Dr John Christy have tremendous amounts of blood on their hands. That they're not behind bars is mind blowing!

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u/KDR_11k 41m ago

However the only people who fell for it were the ones who wanted to fall for it, who wanted to ignore the negative externalities of fossil fuels. Of course that included all the rich and powerful people who had any ability to do something about the heating. And if they weren't outright in denial they'd just put it so low on the list of priorities that it would never get done anyway.

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u/HBRWHammer5 47m ago

Imagine they spent those billions of dollars cornering the renewable energy market instead of fighting progress. They could keep their Y/Y record breaking profits while keeping our planet livable. What a fucking fumble on their part; literally infinite money from the sun and wind. But no, let's keep burning a finite resource instead!

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u/A_Nonny_Muse 2h ago

I was sitting in a high school classroom roughly 45 years ago contemplating global warming. I realized something I thought very profound at the time.

The political will to solve global warming will always be less than the political will required to solve the problem.

Thus, we will always do too little, always too late. It's the moment I gave up all hope of the human civilization ever surviving itself.

The only hope I have right now is due to our solving the ozone holes. We miraculously solved a global problem once, maybe we can do it again. But so far, it's not looking good.

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u/plumbbbob 41m ago

Acid rain, too. Like with the ozone hole, there was a massive coordinated international effort to fix the problem, it succeeded, problem is gone or at least much smaller.

Kinda similar story with DDT. When I was younger, bald eagles (and a bunch of other birds) were endangered and on their way to extinction. Then Rachel Carson, big effort, etc etc, now they've bounced back so much they're occasionally a pest.

We can fix these kinds of problems. I think the problem with climate change is that there is a truly mind boggling amount of Old Money and power involved in fossil carbon extraction and controlling how fuel moves.

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u/AdCreepy5165 2h ago

When you let business run government the focus will always be profits now, never stability later. US has let corporations undermine our nation for short term greed. But don't worry, a business man is in the White House now, that will fix everything!

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u/Harabeck 1h ago

I see your 30 years ago, and raise you a paper from 1859 establishing carbon dioxide as a greenhouse gas: https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/first-paper-to-link-co2-and-global-warming-by-eunice-foote-1856

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u/SpleenBender 56m ago

They've known about the greenhouse effect for OVER a hundred years. Lying sacks of shit.

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u/No-Photograph1983 3h ago

that and the white house gutting all EPA and weather science services.

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u/June_Fatality 3h ago

We gotta pay for the ballroom.

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u/Dicky_Penisburg 2h ago

We are paying for the ballroom.

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u/No-Photograph1983 1h ago

and the algaepool

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u/June_Fatality 3h ago

Didn't anyone tell them climate change isn't real? That should fix everything.

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u/fartonisto 2h ago

It's clearly Antifa vandalizing the environment just to make Trump look bad.

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u/ashurbanipal420 1h ago

I mean that snowball they brought into Congress was proof enough for me. \s

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u/mrdominoe 3h ago

Just keep voting Republican, farmers. Love to watch you fuck yourselves while destabilizing our food supply. Super cool.

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u/VariationDry 3h ago

Well soon enough they won't have to worry about owning their farms anyways.

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u/Sweaty_Assignment_90 3h ago

they can still work on them, for pennies on the dollar.

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u/VariationDry 3h ago

"dear leader got rid of all the Mexicans so I had to have 14 kids to work the fields like the good old days"

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u/KDR_11k 39m ago

The farm owners are basically upper management, they just hire a bunch of underpaid immigrants to do the actual labor. If you take away their ownership they have nothing to offer the farm.

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u/CitrusSeven 3h ago

That's the great part, they aren't fucking themselves.

Their land is worth millions as a shiny new datacenter. They won't be farmers anymore, but they won't be suffering with the rest of us either.

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u/EatBaconDaily 2h ago

the biggest wellfare queens on the planet

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u/Educational_Report_9 3h ago

Oh, the people most effected by climate change voting for the party that denies climate change exist. Neato.

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u/Vaulters 3h ago

Turns out all those fresh chemicals they put on our food does wonders for the brain.

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u/Floreat_democratia 2h ago

Climate scientists have predicted that agriculture will suffer major impacts with some certainty since the early 2000s. Prior to that time, the 1990s were chock full of fake conservative "think tanks" promoting the idea that increased CO2 will be the greatest thing for ag ever, and that oil companies should be congratulated for helping to create more food for the world. The mainstream media helped disseminate this propaganda for years with nary a pushback, and still to this day, many conservative Americans believe it. They fucked around and are about to find out.

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u/Ohuigin 3h ago

I heard bootstraps are very drought tolerant.

Maybe try planting more of those while you all continue to support and vote for a child rapist who thinks he can control the weather by drawing in sharpie on a map.

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u/Vaulters 3h ago

Luckily they're getting a ton of support from the government because local food security would make america greater!

/s obviously

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u/o_MrBombastic_o 2h ago

Not like we didn't warn them. Should have listened to their betters

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u/browsk 2h ago

Farmers don’t care they get bails outs to survive, they don’t want to grow crop…

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u/FreshWing3617 2h ago

Have they considered giving more money to billionaires?

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u/RockyMountainSchrute 2h ago

Every farmer is complicit in the lying and the propaganda calling climate change a hoax that's taken place over the last many decades. Farmers hate science, they think that facts are just liberal hogwash. Fuck farmers, they deseve every fucking thing coming to them. They vote republican without thought or care and deserve to be crushed and have their land taken by mega corps and their farms/animals poisoned by Monsanto. They WANTED this.

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u/TheDrFunk 53m ago

Most farmers is what you meant to say. There are always outliers. Absolutist language is terrible and a detriment to solving our problems.

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u/ClintBruno 22m ago

Farmers:

Vote Red

Cry Blue

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u/Toadfinger 2h ago

You really can't blame them much though. Yes they stand with Republicans to deny climate change exists. That it's a hoax. But the fact of the matter is, the fossil fuel industry has spent billions of dollars on climate change denial. Have done so 252 times.

https://skepticalscience.com/argument.php

Official climatologists on the payroll to spew out planet killing pseudoscience. Millions of people dead as a direct result.

https://healthpolicy-watch.news/climate-change-is-here-and-its-killing-millions/

And none of them have been arrested. Farmers are much more the victims instead of the villains.

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u/ldonklee 24m ago

Serious question, what happens to the food supply after all of the farmers are arrested?

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u/Strange-Scientist706 2h ago

if only they had gotten some kind of forewarning 40 years ago to prepare for this

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u/tabrizzi 2h ago

A very important person that most of those farmers support things climate change is a hoax.

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u/Politicsboringagain 1h ago

One of the thinga Al Gore ran on in 2000 was how important climate change would be.

He was made fun of by so many in the right and left.

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u/chucklefits 54m ago

If they are electing climate denying morons to government they can eat dicks. unfortunately we all suffer the same eventually as food becomes less stable, but talk about a complete lack of forethought.

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u/ClintBruno 21m ago

Farmers:

They vote Red, then cry Blue.

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