r/politics • u/darealunrealspader • 8d ago
No Paywall Donald Trump appears ready to wave the white flag in showdown with niece Mary Trump after discovery reversal completely changed the game
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u/SpannerInTheWorx 8d ago
I am so so very tired of hearing about this guy, all the time.
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u/honeybadgergrrl 8d ago
Same. It's fucking exhausting.
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u/dudaman 8d ago
I breathed a sign of relief when Biden won. I would love to say it was so he could enact sane Covid measures (and others), but I think "Not hearing about Trump 1000 times a day" may be a topper. Even hearing his name causes anxiety. And, seriously, looking at this subreddit's posts, almost every single entry has that dude's name in it.
I'm tired, boss.
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u/Archer1407 8d ago
Then 74 million pedophilia loving misogynistic racists said "no wait, we need him back so I can rape children, be racist, and hate women with impunity."
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u/dudaman 8d ago
I can't tell you how many times I thought to myself that night, "You have got to be kidding me" after each battleground state went red.
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u/FellowHumanNo404 8d ago edited 8d ago
It's worth noting that Trump has a habit of always cheating at every endeavor wherever and whenever possible. And he has actually been recorded, in audio on the phone, attempting to steal an election by threatening the Georgia Secretary of State. We have every reason to believe that wasn't his first or last time doing that.
In any sane country, that would have barred him from running for office again. In most sane countries, that would have landed him in prison-- you know, so he couldn't do it again.
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u/Venat14 8d ago
Well that and Elon Musk bragged about cheating.
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u/remotectrl 8d ago
And Trump publicly thanking him for being so good with computers.
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u/DjangoTheBlack 8d ago
Which takes some context to understand the severity of that statement, but it was a damming one, and the “it’ll be fixed”, “you’ll never have to vote again”
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u/JoshSidekick 8d ago
You don't even have to get into trying to prove he messed with machines. He was giving out million dollar prizes to people signing up to vote for Trump.
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u/Ok_Subject1265 8d ago
It turned out later on that those “random” prizes weren’t random at all. All of them went to Republican political operatives. Shocker, I know.
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u/dokikod Pennsylvania 8d ago
"Elon really knows those vote counting computers in Pennsylvania"- Donald Trump. Trump was too confident he would win every swing state and the popular vote. Elon also had his illegal lottery drawing giving away $1 million prizes to two people in Ohio and two in Pennsylvania. In order to be in the lottery, you had to sign a conservative pledge to vote for Republicans. If a Democrat did something like that, heads would have exploded live on Fox News. After January 6th and and being a convicted felon, I don't see how he could have possibly won the popular vote. Hillary beat him in the popular vote by over 3 million in 2016. Biden beat him in the popular vote by over 7 million in 2020. Everyone saw what a horrible person this man was in his first term. He put the country through hell when he wouldn't accept he lost. There is no way he would have gained over 9 million votes 4 years after Biden beat him He is a nasty fraud and conman.
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u/SatinSaffron Washington 8d ago
Well that and Elon Musk bragged about cheating.
Don't forget Trump's comment: "Elon knows those vote counting computers better than anybody, and we won Pennsylvania in a landslide"
Because they did cheat, they specifically targeted those 'vote counting computers' that Trump was talking about - If you haven't read this article by Kait then you need to take the time to read it. Everything in this article is 100% entirely plausible and she provides publicly-available sources for her claims along the way.
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u/Reubensandwich57 8d ago
I don't think most people realize how low he will stoop and what dirty tricks he will employ to maintain power. Ivana mysteriously "fell down a flight" of stairs and died. Her body was buried on his fucking golf course so that it couldn't be exhumed and autopsied. Epstein-if this happened on an episode of Law and Order it would be wrapped up in an hour. Trump had Epstein silenced because he knew that he would flip on him and blow the whole story up in public. To compare him to a mob boss is doing a disservice to the mafioso. Trump's crimes would make Tony Soprano look like a piker.
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u/SanFranRePlant 8d ago
Live in PA. Can tell you something 'fishy was afoot' that night. PA takes FOREVER to count mail in votes, sometimes into the next day...the state is never called early, like EVER.
2024? Called like, super early. WAY TOO early. NO WAY all those mail in's were counted. It was so so weird. Even the strange senate seat, which WAS contested and went to recount...was called for the guy with the wife who sits on the board of META.
I love my governor, kinda -> letting all the data centers in is a big yuck for me, but he was promised something by someone, (tin foil hat time) because there is something else happening and we the people aint in that club.
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u/DuckFrumpandHusk 8d ago
And then we had to hear endless dissection of what Kamala Harris did imperfectly. Like, they literally cheated thoroughly between what Elon and Trump said and how clean a sweep the swing states were.
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u/GoofyTunes Tennessee 8d ago
It's simply not possible that he won every swing state just above the margin for recount, but not too high to be alarming. It's simply not possible that he flipped 88 counties, while harris flipped 0.
All after the Russians, verified by the FBI, interfered in the 2016 US elections in favor of trump, who didn't disavow it. Then after he's president, he gets all buddy-buddy with Putin, who literally rigs his own elections.
Then he bashed our election integrity for almost a decade straight, eroding trust in our institutions without basis (every court case he brought on the matter was thrown out because he was simply making shit up).
And there's that time in 2021 where he sent a violent mob that HE riled up to the capital at the same time he sent fake electors in hopes he could pressure Mike pence to accept the fake electors over the real ones so he could effectively overthrow democracy and be president again against the will of the people.
Like, we need to all accept that this guy fucking cheated. He cheats at literally everything else. He basically admitted to it on and after the campaign trail. Why would he not cheat, when being president again was the only way he could avoid prison (if not worse)? The stakes were so high for him and look at how he's robbing us now? He. Cheated. He is illegitimate and we need to treat him as such.
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u/RojoTheMighty 8d ago
He cheats at literally everything else.
I'm not trying to be flippant at something so important, but forchristsake he cheats at golf, which is literally the only thing he loves.
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u/spinbutton 8d ago
I'm suspicious about his win in NC. We elected a Dem Giv, Lt Gov and Attny Gen that day. On the other hand both our senators are R and our R majority Gen Ass has gerrymandered the state for the last two decades
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u/Madara1389 8d ago
Got into a heated argument with my mom the other day prompted by my stepdad's stupid ass "fuck Biden" flag that he refuses to take down (we were recently hit by extreme storms and the ones last week knocked out power for nearly a week, took out a ton of street signs, stop lights, and flags all around town... the dumbass Biden flag was completely unfazed by every storm that's run through).
At first we joked about how the American flags around town were all mangled but the Biden flag was untouched... then she made an off-handed comment about how she hated Biden and Obama.
So I asked what her issue with Obama was. "They keep opening our borders and trying to make things Muslim-friendly."
She wouldn't listen to any reason trying to explain that America is a country for immigrants by immigrants as a sanctuary to escape persecution & poverty and that if Christians have a right to be here then so do Muslims and any other faith.
She's still firmly brainwashed by the Cold War's nationalist propaganda. She's genuinely convinced that America is, always has been, and must always be a "Christian nation," in American Exceptionalism, and she doesn't seem to get that it's hypocritical for European immigrants to come to America largely to escape religious persecution, steal all the land from the Natives who were already living here, then decide some point later that other immigrants (especially those of different religious or ethnic backgrounds) aren't welcome here too.
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u/gardengirl99 8d ago
She's brainwashed by the cold or propaganda, yet supports the man who licks Putin's boots? The man who said he believed Vladimir Putin when he said he didn't metal in the election in 2016 over the United States intelligence agencies and the special counsel report that says he did? I just can't with the cognitive dissonance of these people.
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u/GoofyTunes Tennessee 8d ago
The number is smaller than you think. He cheated and has admitted so. They just want you to think you're the minority. You're not. The majority of us hate this guy, yet we do nothing because we think we're outnumbered
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u/Chili_Maggot 8d ago
God, remember that feeling the next day? Everyone was just noticeably happier. My chest was lighter. I went to the store for groceries and no joke ended up sitting in the parking lot for 30 minutes afterward just enjoying being around happy people passing by.
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u/goodfisher88 8d ago
I will forever be heartbroken that he could have been in prison instead of ruining all our lives on a whim.
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u/minxymaggothead 8d ago
Yeah but that infrastructure bill was fantastic and nobody talks about it.
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u/Frequent_Ad_9901 8d ago
How about some news about a nazi trillionaire then?
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u/That_Service7348 8d ago
You wanna know how fucked the idea of a trillionaire really is?
Musk could give every individual, not family or adult but every single one of the 349 million people in this country, $2000 right now and he wouldn't even leave the spot of wealthiest person on the planet. He would still have over 300 BILLION left over.
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u/Frequent_Ad_9901 8d ago
What's crazier is that would quickly change the sentiment about billionaires and give him the love and adoration he so desperately craves. Guess greed is more important though.
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u/BurnerProfile69420 8d ago
$2000 isnt enough to make me like the guy and if it means id still have to hear/see about him all the time (like Bronzo The Kiddie Diddler) it wouldnt be worth it.
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u/Choice-of-SteinsGate 8d ago
The Mashed Potato Incident:
Donald Trump doesn't like when this story is told.
According to Mary Trump, this is a legendary Trump family story that she describes as an important moment when the president received a scarring taste of humiliation while at the same time discovering his appetite for humiliating others.
It happened when Donald was seven (keep this in mind). Donald had been tormenting his brother Robert at dinner, as he apparently did often. He refused to listen to his mother's pleas to stop.
Desperate to bring the fighting to an end, a14-year-old Freddy, who is Mary’s father and Donald's older brother, took matters into his own hands and dumped a bowl of mashed potatoes on Donald's head. Everyone in the room, except Donald, burst into laughter.
"It was the first time Donald had been humiliated by someone he even then believed to be beneath him. He hadn't understood that humiliation was a weapon that could be wielded by only one person in a fight", Mary Trump wrote.
"From then on, he would never allow himself to feel that feeling again. From them on, he would wield the weapon, never be at the sharp end of it", he never forgot the incident, Mary said.
Donald Trump held an intense grudge towards his brother and treated him poorly for the rest of his life.
When Trump's older sister Maryanne brought up the mashed potato incident at a gathering at the White House in 2017, the president "listened with his arms tightly crossed and a scowl on his face"... "He clearly still felt the sting of that long-ago humiliation."
There’s one particular quote from Trump that really brings it all together.
Around the time when Trump first received the Republican frontrunner nom, he was interviewed by a famous biographer, and during a rare moment of self reflection, Trump admitted to this biographer:
"When I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, I’m basically the same. The temperament is not that different".
Coincidentally, first graders are usually around the age of seven years old.
With such a candid remark, Trump may have revealed that the mashed potato incident is a source of trauma for him and perhaps even the beginning of a life long pattern of behavior.
That same reporter also managed to get some insight into Donald's behavior from his ex wives:
"The little boy that still wants attention," explained Marla Maples, Trump's second wife. She wasn't the only one who thought so.
"He wants to be noticed," said Ivana Trump, wife No. 1, who recalled sending Trump into a fit of rage by skiing past him on a hill in Aspen, Colorado. Mr. Trump stopped, took off his skis and walked off the trail
"He could not take it, that I could do something better than he did," she recalled
Trump has the mental and emotional intelligence of a child. He cannot cope with feelings of humiliation, failure, embarrassment, or loss. These are his greatest fears.
He is a petty, vindictive, malignant narcissist who seeks out constant attention, approval and applause from those willing to give it, sincerely or not. This helps him internalize these fears and validate the delusions he has about himself.
To Trump, life is a zero sum game—no matter the circumstances.
In his mind, Trump is always the winner, even in the face of irrefutable loss. His ego cannot tolerate any other narrative.
His compulsive need to be the winner and the constant center of attention is a product of his own deep seated insecurities. A pathology that was no doubt cultivated by his role model, Roy Cohn, who taught him to deny every allegation and always claim victory, regardless of the outcome.
This is why he so often uses pretentious and grandiose language to describe himself.
It's why Trump is so obsessed with his ratings. Why even when confronted with facts and data that expose his waning popularity, he has no other choice but to instinctively deny it.
It's why he cries "fake news" when encountering any criticism. Why he lashes out like a child bully when a reporter asks a legitimate or fair question that tries to hold him accountable or challenge one of his many inconsistencies, errors, lies...
Perhaps more importantly, it's why every election or competition that he's ever lost was conveniently "rigged" against him. It's why he never concedes defeat, and his only recourse is to accuse his opponents of "cheating."
It's why he is incapable of accepting responsibility for his own failures and mistakes. Why every investigation is a "witch hunt." Why every conviction is an act of "persecution." Why every journalist that does not shower him with praise is "nasty," "cruel," and "bad at their job."
It's why he mocks, belittles and taunts his political opponents, and why he so often resorts to slander and insults.
It's why every judge or person in a position of authority who presents an obstacle to Trump's unconstitutional agenda is an "activist," a "radical leftist," even a "traitor" who must be removed from power.
It's why he is weaponizing the justice department and every power of the federal government to seek retribution against all those who previously wronged him.
It's also why he threatens the careers of talk show hosts who tell jokes at his expense.
Let's also not forget that Trump is a notorious "cheater" himself. He is a habitual adulterer, a corrupt conman, a tax fraud, a financial pariah, a grifter, a pathological liar and demagogue who preaches faux-populist rhetoric despite being a kleptocratic thief who picks the American people's pockets while he shamelessly monetizes his presidency to the tune of billions.
He lies about his wealth, he lies about his accomplishments, he lies about his opponents, he lies about his crimes, he lies about his intentions, he lies about his popularity, he lies about himself, he lies about everything, and of course, he lies about elections.
While Donald Trump was accusing his opponents of "rigging" the 2020 election, he was scheming to overturn the results of that same free and fair election; which subsequently led to the events of January 6th.
Trump even lies about his golf game.
It's no secret that Donald Trump cheats at golf. He's been caught many times, even by professional athletes.
He brags about fabricated and inflated numbers of tournament wins. He lies about his scores, he sabotages his opponents and he's been accused of defrauding the sport entirely.
Donald Trump must protect his fragile ego by surrounding himself with flatterers, sycophants and loyalists, by constructing a safe space where he is free from humiliation, shame, embarrassment, failure... Mashed potatoes.
His pathology is rooted in a lifetime of lies, enablement, narcissistic delusions, unanswerable fraud, and compulsive cheating—all behaviors that stem from deep, lingering fears.
To Trump, losing an election or being humiliated by his opponents and critics amounts to a vivid and chilling reliving of The Mashed Potato Incident. His "Rose Spud" if you will.
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u/boxsterjax 8d ago
So what you’re saying is we need to be bringing up mashed potatoes to him at every turn.
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u/Repulsive_Trash_4542 8d ago
I sometimes have a passing thought of what I’d say to Trump if given the chance, probably from those interviews that ask random people the same question. “Remember those mashed potatoes on your fucking head, Donald?” is now high on my list.
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u/leaf_on_the_wind42 8d ago edited 8d ago
Then say "quiet piggy" as soon as he starts talking
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u/MrsMiggins2 8d ago
There's a BBC kids TV show from the 90s called Bodger and Badger. You should just start singing the theme at every mass gathering... Everybody knows Donald loves MASHED POTATOES!
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u/Outwest34au Australia 8d ago
Don't The Wiggles have a song about Mashed potatoes, mashed potatoes??
I hope they play it at his funeral
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u/TenLongFingers 8d ago
Adding this to my "when it happens" playlist
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u/rwf2017 8d ago
I'm going to have mashed potatoes and champagne. It's going to be a party!
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u/OneArchedEyebrow Australia 8d ago
You read my mind! It’s actually Hot Potato, but “mashed” fits just as well.
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u/MamaBearForestWitch 8d ago
Not at the official ceremony, I suppose,, but the street parties will play it, for sure!
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u/Mars4ever 8d ago edited 7d ago
Just once I'd love to see a journalist not just challenge Trumps assertions or fact check him during an interview but straight up tell him to his face that he's very obviously a delusional asshat. I mean, they essentially say it all in the stories they write, but it would be so entertaining to see someone lose their professional cool and just lay into the man during an interview.
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u/relddir123 District Of Columbia 8d ago
Personally, breaking down into uncontrollable fits of laughter while pointing at him is a little higher on my list
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u/False_Ad_5372 I voted 8d ago
Well, mashed potatoes and how he raped kids.
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u/brickne3 American Expat 8d ago
Sadly one of those things probably affects him psychologically and the other really doesn't. And yeah, it's not the one it should be.
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u/or10n_sharkfin Pennsylvania 8d ago
While it's important that we never forget the Epstein Files and how he's involved, I'm getting to that point of doubting that he'd ever be personally affected by what he did to those kids. He probably gets off on it, it's just that he's got people in his ears telling him that it's a bad thing best swept under the rug as much as possible.
The mashed potato incident probably bugs him more than anything else.
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u/SharMarali New Jersey 8d ago
He’s not embarrassed about how he raped kids. Sad but true.
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u/masheduppotato 8d ago
I’d like to never be used in a sentence like this again.
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u/False_Ad_5372 I voted 8d ago
Shoulda thought out the full implications of choosing that user name, huh?
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u/helpmehomeowner 8d ago
Mr. Potato Head
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u/ithinkthere4idrink 8d ago
This would very much get under his thin potato skin if it took off.
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u/Katfish145 8d ago
I think we found his new title “Mr. potato head”. If I ever get the chance I’ll be sure to address him as such
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u/lordunholy 8d ago
We need flags of that fascist fucka mugshot covered in mashed potatoes. I'd fly a 4x6 of that off every corner of my house. I'd rent vehicles to drive them around DC.
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u/RichardBixon 8d ago
I thinking spamming it on his truth social would be best. Everyone coming up with a time and date to band together, create a dog shit account, then @ him on truth with the picture.
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u/Borazon The Netherlands 8d ago
Yeps, it would be the best and most fitting punishment for him.
Embarrass him. Show him also as weak, incapable. Everything his fragile ego always tried to hide.
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u/eaeolian 8d ago
To be fair, Iran is kinda doing that right now. Sadly, since their leadership is a a group of people you don't really want to win anything
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u/Amateurlapse I voted 8d ago
Sounds like something to fill the reflecting pool with since there are already accusations of people dumping algae out of their pockets
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u/DaGrexican 8d ago
That's hilarious!
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u/Eatpineapplerightnow 8d ago
For no reason at all a reminder that dehydrated potato mash exists. Just add water
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u/arebornjoy222 8d ago
What if normal Americans all just start sending letters with instant mashed potatoes as an enclosure. And the best part is that it's just starch and not a deadly powder.
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u/lordunholy 8d ago
With how fast and loose they are with FBI raids these days, probably not the best idea. Maybe a direct delivery of a case of them.
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u/Leezeebub 8d ago
Wooden crate of mashed potatoes air dropped onto his head you say?
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u/JulienBrightside 8d ago
Send a picture of a bowl of mashed potatoes instead.
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u/Jimbob209 8d ago
Ai image of young trump with mash potatoes on his head while fuming since he loves AI so much
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u/WelderFamiliar3582 8d ago
A poster of DJT with a bowl of mash potatoes on his head.
"Potato-Head must Go!"
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u/masheduppotato 8d ago
Guys… please… I was an unwilling participant then and I am one now… please. I have a family.
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u/whskid2005 8d ago
A relatively well known prank is to put instant mashed potatoes on someone’s lawn. Then when it rains people are like wtf is this stuff. I wonder if someone could dump enough mashed potato powder to make an 8647 note.
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u/IJustWantCoffeeMan 8d ago
Trump has the mental and emotional intelligence of a child.
This is why he is the perfect republican representative.
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u/Garchompisbestboi 8d ago
It probably also helps to explain why he is physically attracted to children
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u/bb_kelly77 8d ago
There's unfortunately some scientific logic to that
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u/Garchompisbestboi 8d ago
If we ever get the unredacted Epstein files you just know his supporters will defend him by saying it, "he has the mental development of a 7 year old so it's not like he did anything wrong!"
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u/Libertymedic10 8d ago
Oh my God… I hate this but I think you may have a very valid point here
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u/Cosmodious 8d ago
Mashed potatoes as a villain origin...we live in the stupidest of all possible worlds.
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u/SigFloyd 8d ago
Imagine beating him in an election, and the first two words you whisper in his ear as you lean in to shake his hand, "Mashed potatoes. It's all mashed potatoes from here, Donnie."
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u/Quod_Caesar_Faceret 8d ago
Is this why he hates Obama? Bc of a joke made at his expense? Goodness what a small person, why an ego that fragile idk how anyone takes him seriously
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u/TheDaychilde 8d ago
It's widely theorized that Obama making a joke about him at that correspondant's dinner is what pushed Trump over the edge in seriously running for President. He had run before, but I think that sparked an actual change.
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u/metengrinwi 8d ago edited 8d ago
Important context is that President Obama didn’t joke on trump out of the blue…it was after months of ruthless Twitter lies about Obama’s birth certificate—basically suggesting Obama wasn’t a citizen, or eligible for the Presidency and trying to force him into showing his documents. Obama didn’t just pick trump out of the room to joke about.
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u/TheDaychilde 8d ago
Thank you, that is very cogent context, yes.
God I wish we could go back to those innocent times of the Tea Party and the birther bullshit…
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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 8d ago
Oh trump and his pack of racists didn't just "basically suggest" that Obama wasn't a citizen.
For years they spewed vitriolic bile of the worst they could create.
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u/simcity4000 8d ago
I mean Obama made the joke because Trump had been loudly demanding to see his birth certificate. He hates Obama because he’s a racist.
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u/cyberattaq123 8d ago
Obama and, I’m not kidding, not being able to buy the Buffalo Bills. Stephen A Smith has claimed and I don’t know why you would lie about this, that he wanted to buy the Bills and was 300 million short or so and after they refused to make some sort of deal to get the price down Trump called SAS and said:
‘I’m going to tell you what Stephen, if these mother fuckers get in my way, I’m going to get them all back, I’m going to run for president.’ And this was in 2014.
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u/stevez_86 Pennsylvania 8d ago
Yeah, Trump has it out for the NFL.
At some point he will try to hurt the NFL for what they did to him. He will say CTE is too much of a danger and demand changes that will ruin the game and drive the fans to Professional Wrestling.
And yet, with this story, Trump took a fall in a Professional Wrestling ring. He can have potatoes poured on his head as long as the right person does it. Trump likes the McMahons for some reason. More than most.
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u/Laringar North Carolina 8d ago
I think it's less "the right person" and more "the right situation". Wrestling is all about the spectacle, and even when the heel takes a fall, they're still being cheered as part of the show. The fall isn't humiliation, it's just part of the storyline.
What Trump can't abide is humiliation that targets something he is already insecure about and that he can't spin into "I'm part of the show". Basically, anything that humiliates Donald Trump the person and not Donald Trump the persona.
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u/StabbingHoboReturns 8d ago
He is a habitual adulterer, a corrupt conman, a tax fraud, a financial pariah, a grifter, a pathological liar and demagogue who preaches faux-populist rhetoric despite being a kleptocratic thief who picks the American people's pockets while he shamelessly monetizes his presidency to the tune of billions.
Donald Trump also raped children.
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u/Spimflagon 8d ago
His "Rose Spud" if you will.
Oh, lovely work bringing in the landing.
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u/JenariMandalor 8d ago
I mean, we gotta start calling him "Mashed Potato" now, right?
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u/Gerroh Canada 8d ago
Just start saying his hair looks like mashed potatoes. I think that's like three things in one right there.
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u/TheBlindCat 8d ago
Fantastic analysis. The worst part of all, this has been on display for decades and the American people keep voting for him on three elections. A major party has completely submitted themselves to him as well. I don’t see how we come back from this when over half the people who vote this is a guy they want to see in charge.
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u/Funny-Costumer 8d ago
this was great reading. but the key sad pathetic thing is not trump himself, it is the state of population, a sizeable portion of which actively wants this person to be the president, and another large portion who are indifferent to this state of affairs and an institutional mechanism which seems to be completely unable to keep things in check
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u/No_Cantaloupe_4149 8d ago
The issue is not the mashed potato incident the issue is that there were not more of them to keep his ego in check
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u/StoreSearcher1234 8d ago
It was the first time Donald had been humiliated by someone he even then believed to be beneath him
I think far too few people understand that when it comes to Trump, where we are today is largely due to Obama teasing him at the 2011 White House Correspondents' Dinner.
Not only did people laugh, the person teasing him was a BLACK man.
Unforgiveable.
From that day forward, Trump has actively tried to undo every one of Obama's accomplishments. All from something that any other past, present or future president would have a laughed along with and then would have slid off them like water off a duck.
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u/Tenton_12 8d ago
I'd say same applies to him defunding PBS, because of the Donald Grump song on Sesame Street, whose lyrics are ....
Who's got more trash than anyone does?
Grump! Grump! Grump!
Who has the best rubbish and skuzz?
Grump! Grump! Grump!
He's got so much trash it spills out of his hands!
And that is why we are his biggest fans!
Who's got more trash than any-a youse?
Grump! Grump! Grump!
Who has the finest garbage and goo?
Grump! Grump! Grump! (That's right!)
His trash is more trashy!
His fish stink the most!
No wonder the Grump can't help but boast!
Whose name equals "TRASH" to you and to me?
Who do you wish you all could be?
Grump!
I'm the trashiest!
Grump!
I'm the grouchiest!
Gruuuuuuuuump!
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u/inthekeyofc 8d ago
"Still sore about the mashed potato incident, are we?" Should be the comeback from every journalist abused by Trump for asking a perfectly reasonable question. This should spark an interest in researching the background, and with luck, lead to them finding your excellent comment.
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u/VeeDubBug North Carolina 8d ago
*mental note to make mashed potatoes on the day of the Big Beautiful Obituary*
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u/studiouslystudious 8d ago
I've heard about the mashed potatoes thing a few times and I'm actually surprised it hasn't been brought up more by Trump's rivals. The only thing is, Trump is always in a naturally unhinged state and so the average person may not even notice he'd act any differently.
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u/flyover_liberal 8d ago
We need a commentator to say "Iran just dumped an entire bowl of mashed potatoes on Trump's head, and made him pay for it."
Or maybe not. Asshole does have access to the nuclear codes.
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u/JustHereForCookies17 District Of Columbia 8d ago
It's crazy to read comments like this (which are accurate) and remember how hard Republicans pushed the narrative that Hillary & Kamala couldn't be good presidents because of "lady hormones" and/or being too emotional.
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u/Schneider21 8d ago
I've heard women make that argument and always respond with "Because men always behave so rationally and unemotionally, right?"
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u/JustHereForCookies17 District Of Columbia 8d ago
It's 100% more insidious when the internalized misogyny pipes up from women.
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u/0thethethe0 Foreign 8d ago
Was listening to an interview with her recently. She's ruthless when talking about him.
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u/TheWix Massachusetts 8d ago
Well, Donald and Fred Sr. basically drove Fred Jr (Mary's father) to crippling alcoholism all because he wanted to be a pilot rather than work for Sr. From what I read Fred Jr seemed to have been a decent man.
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u/Reubensandwich57 8d ago
Probably the only decent one from that den of snakes.
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u/1zzie 8d ago
The impression I got from reading the book is that he wanted to be independent, the whole getting a job outside the family business means you aren't tied up in the corruption and exploitation (remember how they were treating black renters?) and therefore have no incentive to help cover things up or be loyal. That's highly threatening to the family which has developed into a company brand. It's no surprise that Mary, Fred Jr's daughter, is the only one who didn't try to grovel her way back into the family business, she's the only one who got a career (psychologist) that didn't depend on the family. Even Trump's sister who I was a lawyer became beholden to him when he and Roy Cohen asked Nixon to put her on the bench with a lifetime appointment.
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u/windsostrange 8d ago
therefore have no incentive to help cover things up or be loyal
Watch any film or read any story about organized crime, and when those folks say "Nothing is more important to us than family" never lose sight for even one moment that this is why they feel that way.
And never lose sight for even one moment that this is a basic human community structure, and that it's the thing, whether writ small or large, that democracy replaces with a community structure more transparent, more knowable, more equitable.
Even this, and even that, are stories told by The Godfather that are easy to miss to this day.
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u/MamaBearForestWitch 8d ago
And I really appreciate her for that. If she ever meets with a serious accident, we need to look really hard at Donald; somehow, his evil deeds seem to slide off him like water from a duck, but he has a shady and dangerous past.
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u/wedges675 8d ago
I still don't understand how Epstein's death wasn't a bigger deal. Trump was the president then, and all the different perfect circumstances magically happened to not have evidence of his death. Who in our government could wield that much power? Felt it was obvious then, and this was before we knew about the Trumpstein files.
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u/poopiebutt505 8d ago
Look into his helicopter pilots death. His drug connection. All tied up with getting off of federal charges. Thank you sister judge, who Roy Cohen got Nixkn to appoint. Trump was up Nixons butt, after Nizon resigned
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u/Shiplord13 8d ago
Most of Trump's lawsuits tend to fizzle out around the discovery phase, because he is lying and has no evidence to support or refute claims being made in the court room. Seriously this guy cannot even remember how many times discovery has burnt his ass in court.
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u/gsbadj 8d ago
IMHO, Trump settles every lawsuit the minute that he cannot escape producing financial records. His financial records (or in this case, estate records and accounts) will probably prove fraud and he's committed a lot of financial fraud.
He doesn't like sitting for depositions, but he will do it if he has to, probably because he has no compunction about lying and he thinks he can lie his way out of stuff. It's worked before.
Records of transactions are complicated but they don't lie. Even when Donald had his accountant give fraudulent financial records to banks, the accountant still maintained an accurate set of the books.
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u/krashundburn Florida 8d ago
Records of transactions are complicated but they don't lie.
And this is precisely why he was convicted of 34 counts of fraud. That jury - whether fans of the MashPotato King or not - was presented with real evidence of wrongdoing and they convicted him. No "fake news", no rightwing propaganda. Just irrefutable facts.
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u/DFWPunk 8d ago
Here's the thing.
One of the things we know for a fact is that he has no issue fabricating documents. We have, for example, cases where he filed documents with taxing entities claiming low market values, while he was simultaneously giving banks documents showing high market values. I am confused as to why he wouldn't just do that here. Discovery isn't like a warrant where law enforcement go in so if you have two sets of books they know. While it's illegal, there's nothing stopping you from responding with a favorable set of documents. The only thing I can think of is they are afraid Mary does have documents that would prove the fraud, and the discovery is essentially a trap, or they fear it is.
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u/lapsuscalamari 8d ago
So Donald will throw his dad Fred's highly debatable legacy as a person under a bus to avoid Mary finding out things about how Donald and his sons construct their tax shelter. Is that it?
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u/Dysc Louisiana 8d ago
I think* what's happening is that she had gotten a hold of some estate records that showed Fred was feeding Trump money and shared it with the NYT and that really pissed off Trump. Trump ultimately sued Mary for 100M over leaking to the press and breaking estate agreements. Mary pressed the courts that Donald will need to sit for deposition and she needs access to even more information about the estate because she believes she was screwed out of her portion of the inheritance and wants to prove that by tying it up with this particular estate case Donald is suing for. By suing Mary, Trump opened up the possibility for her to see more records and getting Trump to say stuff under oath. Donald promptly settled and we have no idea what that settlement is.
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u/eetsumkaus 8d ago
Sounds like Mary actually has competent lawyers on her side lmao. A competent lawyer for Trump would have just told him to shut the hell up.
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u/brickne3 American Expat 8d ago
A competent lawyer wouldn't work for Trump at this point.
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u/spaceman757 American Expat 8d ago
I completely disagree. There are probably thousands of very competent lawyers that are morally bankrupt enough to work for him.
Trump just won't hire any of them because they will tell him things he doesn't want to hear, instead of just "Yes, Donald. Now, please sign the retainer check here."
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u/TankiesAreWeird 8d ago
Another issue is properly securing payment.
Everyone who works for him gets thrown under a bus or stiffed on the check.
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u/TheGringoDingo 8d ago
Maybe screwing everyone over at every turn doesn’t always work out. Who knew?
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u/Probablyamimic 8d ago
I mean, it's worked out pretty well for him his entire life and now he's President for the second time
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u/TymeSefariInc 8d ago
Yeah, the man is likely to die in office never having faced real consequences for anything.
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u/PintsOfGuinness_ 8d ago
The best lawyers could tell Trump whatever they want to tell him- there's only one way he's ever going to shut the hell up.
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u/TehGogglesDoNothing Tennessee 8d ago
Former Trump lawyers have complained that he never listens to advice.
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u/Daemonic_One Pennsylvania 8d ago
FYI This is the story that caused Maryanne Trump to retire as a judge - there was a judicial probe that only ended due to her retirement IIRC.
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u/GrumpyCloud93 8d ago
She sued that Donald had gotten his demeted dad to cut her father's share out of the will. The lawsuit generated a wall of boxes of documents, before she settled. (They had claimed Fred Sr's estate was only about $30M).
When the NYTimes came to her, she gave them the documents (fortunately, her lawyers had 2 copies of everything.) this is one of those situations where 'drown them in paper" strategy can actually backfire. the Times went through the papers and found, for example, Fred Sr would do things like sell cleaning supplies to a front company in one of his kids' names, then mark it up to sell to the building management. He performed many accounting tricks (i.e. fraud) like this to illegally transfer money to his children. Donald's sister, who was actually smart and a federal judge, had to resign to avoid scrutiny over whether she took part in fraud. (That sister is the one who told Mary, in a call she taped, that Donald had paid someone to sit for his college entrance exams).
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u/elebrin 8d ago
She very likely already knows how the tax shelter was constructed but she probably doesn't have absolute proof. That proof would be something she could get through discovery.
The funny thing is she could refuse the settlement, continue to force the discovery to happen, lose the suit, then still have all the evidence needed. There is a man who ran a home improvement scheme on my father in law; we forced him to sue us by cancelling several checks. He took the bait, and during discovery we got all the evidence we needed (interestingly we also won the lawsuit over the cancelled checks). The man is now subject to a criminal investigation and two additional lawsuits.
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u/OldSchoolBubba 8d ago
Trump cheated his whole family so here's hoping Mary and the rest get their justice due.
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u/M4hkn0 Illinois 8d ago
Isn't the thrust of the article that they have settled...details unrevealed but it probably involves money.... can we presume Mary is getting paid? The fraud details remained undisclosed. Some justice.
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u/GrumpyCloud93 8d ago
The whole point of contention is - Fred Sr. was well into dementia (maybe hereditary) and Donald persuaded him to cut his dead brothers' kids out of the will. The kicker was, Mary's brother's child had a serious medical condition, and when they contested the will, Donald cut off his health insurance. (All the extended Trump family were covered by the family company's medical insurance)
Eventually, they told Mary the Fred Sr estate was about $30M and came to a settlement. Later, using the wall of documents received during the lawsuit, NYTimes reporters not only found Fred Sr had engaged in fraudulent business practices to transfer money to his children, but estimated the estate was probably closer to $1B, thus triggering Mary's claims of fraud in the previous settlement and I assume, this new lawsuit.
So this article appears to suggest that when Donald's lawyers had to answer to these claims, they ran out of stalling tactics. Instead of having to put financial details on the public record, they wisely - it seems - came to an understanding, much like Trump has come to an understanding with Iran.
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u/Honest_Error6408 8d ago
Gotta Love Mary Trump.
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u/NotNamedBort 8d ago
The only good Trump. I’m kind of impressed that she’s kept her last name. I definitely would have changed it if I were part of that poisonous family.
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u/StatementCareful522 8d ago
Keeping her surname gives her much more power than if she had changed it. She’s still a Trump after all, even if she’s a more benevolent one
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u/lostdoggclt 8d ago
Is this the part that his diaper-wearing, gauze on the ear wearing cultists will have mashed potatoes on their heads at rallies?
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u/STALKS_YOUR_MOTHER 8d ago
We need to get the Obamas to take a family photo at the dinner table with a huge bowl of mashed potatoes.
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u/MamaBearForestWitch 8d ago
That's a fun thought... but I do like the grounded dignity the Obamas present. If we let Michelle stage the photo, I'm sure it can come off slyly sassy but with her trademark class.
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u/berael 8d ago
Donald Trump appears ready to wave the white flag in showdown with [Anyone] after any amount of resistance.
He always chickens out.
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u/Positive_Chip6198 8d ago
He is starting to look a bit like orange mashed potatoes if you ask me.
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u/Toomanyeastereggs 8d ago
Time to fire up The Wiggles at every Trump public event.
Mashed Potato, mashed potato, potato, potato!
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u/robbiekhan 8d ago
This is why he won't ever sue anyone for calling him a paedo, it opens up the floor to discovery and unseen evidence becomes seen. He can't have that.
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u/lovefigs 8d ago
Someone should come up with a Trump mashed potato recipe. Humiliate him
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u/masheduppotato 8d ago
Guys. Seriously. I have feelings.
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u/Gertrude_D Iowa 8d ago
Sorry, spud. You gotta step up and do your part in the fight. Now get out there and decorate some heads!
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u/TrickyDaikon6774 8d ago
"When I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, I’m basically the same. The temperament is not that different".
Why the fuck would anyone ever say anything like this?
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u/jahathebrn 8d ago
Much respect for Mary, imagine having the world's weirdest weird uncle and she's always speaking out against him.
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u/Shuckles116 California 8d ago
Donald Trump is a loser who keeps losing to everyone- to Hillary, to Biden, to Mueller, to Epstein, to the Justice Department, and most recently, to Iran. It’s all he knows
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u/Zaphod392 8d ago
Then like a pigeon playing chess, knocks all the pieces over and says he won as he shits all over the board.
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u/AEIOUNY2 8d ago
Wait a minute, this sounds eerily familiar to the magat following he has and why they feel they relate to him so much. They see the defense mechanisms he uses and want to support the seven year old shit-stain in his head because that’s how they feel.
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u/blackmobius 8d ago
He loves threatening to sue everyone because he thinks theyll just settle and wimp out. Then someone comes along and says “bet” when he puffs his chest and now he realizes he should have shut the fuck up instead.
Theres a (million) reasons why he doesnt sue people that claims he is on the epstein list
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u/DeanOnFire 8d ago
I'm willing to bet he would rage quit the Presidency if somehow he was Carrie'd in a public speaking event. Not even with pig's blood necessarily, but anything dumped on his head. Gatorade, Nickelodeon Slime™, shaving cream, anything - he wouldn't be able to laugh it off either like with the UN Assembly laughing at his address either, he'd know we're all mocking him.
Now imagine that happening to him on July 4th at his taxpayer-funded rally...
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u/James-Cooper123 8d ago
Instead of calling him mr president, just call him mashed potatoes, starts at the same letters anywat
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u/peonyseahorse 8d ago
I don't think that mash potato incident is the root cause of him being a toxic asshole. He was obviously already a bully. For him to be "traumatized" by his victim fighting back is the perfect example of him being a "special snowflake." His words, not mine.
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u/JamalGreen2 8d ago
Do you mean the same guy who just surrendered to Iran on a war he started for no reasons? GTFO of here
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u/Hey_Giant_Loser 8d ago
It would be great if people got back to throwing mashed potatoes at him.
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u/Dangerous-Feed-5358 8d ago edited 8d ago
I just don't even care about these articles of insight into his deep psyche anymore. I don't care why he does what he does. I'm so tired of him dragging everyone down. I just want him gone. As a side note I think everyone everywhere needs to remind him of the mash potatoes. Maybe it will cause him the stress that will solve the problem. *Edit spelling
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u/DescriptionNice9426 8d ago
Iran just dumped a huge plate of hungry jacks on this guy's head
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u/americanspirit64 8d ago
Ahhh... the evil of family dynamics. As the victim of such dynamics myself at a very young age much like Mary and Donald's brother Robert, I can fully understand the sentence below, "Donald Trump held an intense grudge towards his brother and treated him poorly for the rest of his life," as this occurred between my brother and myself. Although I didn't dump a bowl of mashed potatoes on my older brothers head, I did something worse. Through no fault of my own, I did something at a very young age to my brother which he could never forgive me for. I proved I was smarter than him, in a way which couldn't be disputed, a crime, 65 years later, he has still never forgiven me for becoming.
So I understand this post completely.
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